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http://www.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/nba/story/2011-11-14/NBA-players-wont-accept-deal-season-could-be-over/51198288/1
NBA players say no to deal, season could be over
November 14, 2011
NEW YORK – The 2011-12 NBA season could be over before it starts.
The National Basketball Players Association, saying the collective bargaining process has "completely broken down," served notice to the NBA on Monday that they plan to dissolve and pursue antitrust lawsuits against the league for the 137-day lockout.
"The players feel they're not prepared to accept any ultimatum," NBPA executive director Billy Hunter said. "We think it's extremely unfair to give (players the ultimatum) that they accept (the owners') proposal or roll back to 47%" from a 50-50 split of basketball-related income.
We have negotiated in good faith for over two years," Hunter said. "But the players just felt they have given enough, that the NBA was not prepared to negotiate, that things were not going to get better."
Hunter said there was a "high probability" there won't be a season.
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Oh well............................................. the Mavericks get to be defending Champions for at least 2 years!!!!
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Quote from: wreck on November 14, 2011, 11:27:56 PM
Oh well............................................. the Mavericks get to be defending Champions for at least 2 years!!!!
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http://tracking.si.com/2011/11/15/nba-cancels-games-through-dec-15/
Report: NBA Cancels Games Through Dec. 15
November 15, 2011
The NBA has informed teams that all games through Dec. 15 have been canceled, according to a tweet from Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports.
The most recent collective bargaining proposal sent to the players detailed a 72-game 2011-12 NBA season that would begin on Dec. 15. Yesterday the NBPA made the decision to reject that offer from the owners, and have begun to make efforts to disband their union. In doing so, they plan to try to take talks of a new collective bargaining agreement out of the negotiating room and into the courts.
Until now, NBA commissioner David Stern had only officially only canceled NBA games through Dec. 1
. During an interview Monday on ESPN, he made it clear that with the NBA players’ recent actions, the possibility of any season in 2011-12 is becoming increasingly unlikely.
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http://www.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/nba/story/2011-11-15/NBA-cancels-some-December-games/51221650/1
Some December NBA games lost; players file suits
NEW YORK – As the NBA and the dissolved players union hand off the impasse that is the 138-day lockout, a look at the calendar says the cancellation of those highly valued, nationally televised Christmas Day games is just around the corner.
Tuesday, the players would have received their first paychecks of the season — if they had a season.
Instead, through their attorneys, they filed a lawsuit against the league for the lockout in northern California, an employee-friendly jurisdiction, and another group filed suit in Minnesota.
Newly hired players attorney David Boies said the suits were filed "in order to try to restore competitive, free-market conditions."
"It's in everybody's interest to try to resolve this promptly," said Boies, speaking in New York. "The longer it goes on, the greater the damages teams will face. The right way to address the players' damages is to ask the owners to pay for it."
Plaintiffs named on the lawsuit filed in the northern district of California are Carmelo Anthony, Chauncey Billups, Kevin Durant, Leon Poew and Kawhi Leonard.
Plaintiffs named on the lawsuit filed in Minneapolis include Caron Butler, Ben Gordon and and rookie Derrick Williams.
That will not enhance the possibility of games any time soon.
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http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/5-on-5-111116/who-deserves-most-blame-nba-lockout
Who deserves blame for NBA lockout?
5-on-5: Debating the five most culpable parties for shabby state of labor negotiations
November 16, 2011
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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/11/20/SP0U1M1NOL.DTL
Unlike NFL lockout, NBA's threatens season
November 20, 2011
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NBA season in jeopardy
The NBA's lockout succeeded the NFL's, has lasted longer, and there's one significant difference: Football's labor dispute resulted in the loss of only a single exhibition game, while the NBA is on its way to a shortened regular season - if one is played at all.
NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell spoke repeatedly about getting a deal done and keeping the season intact. When the most recent round of NBA talks broke off Monday, Commissioner David Stern spoke about a "nuclear winter" and said it appeared "the 2011-12 season is really in jeopardy."
For the time being, the only chance to see All-Stars such as LeBron James or Dwight Howard in action is to catch one of the player-organized games for charity. Unless, that is, some of them follow through on opportunities to play overseas: Kobe Bryant was in contact with a team in Italy; Dwyane Wade authorized his agent to listen to viable offers.
NFL players didn't have that international option, of course.
Both leagues' labor problems began, at their heart, as arguments over how to divide billions of dollars in revenues - about $9 billion for the NFL, $4 billion for the NBA - but also over how to change the rules governing player contracts and free agency. Both featured acrimonious dialogue in public. Both bothered fans who couldn't understand why it was so hard to find common ground.
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Quote from: MuffyBee on November 20, 2011, 08:47:35 AM
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/11/20/SP0U1M1NOL.DTL
Unlike NFL lockout, NBA's threatens season
November 20, 2011
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NBA season in jeopardy
The NBA's lockout succeeded the NFL's, has lasted longer, and there's one significant difference: Football's labor dispute resulted in the loss of only a single exhibition game, while the NBA is on its way to a shortened regular season - if one is played at all.
NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell spoke repeatedly about getting a deal done and keeping the season intact. When the most recent round of NBA talks broke off Monday, Commissioner David Stern spoke about a "nuclear winter" and said it appeared "the 2011-12 season is really in jeopardy."
For the time being, the only chance to see All-Stars such as LeBron James or Dwight Howard in action is to catch one of the player-organized games for charity. Unless, that is, some of them follow through on opportunities to play overseas: Kobe Bryant was in contact with a team in Italy; Dwyane Wade authorized his agent to listen to viable offers.
NFL players didn't have that international option, of course.
Both leagues' labor problems began, at their heart, as arguments over how to divide billions of dollars in revenues - about $9 billion for the NFL, $4 billion for the NBA - but also over how to change the rules governing player contracts and free agency. Both featured acrimonious dialogue in public. Both bothered fans who couldn't understand why it was so hard to find common ground.
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Once this fiasco is finally over -- whatever year that may be -- I hope there will be a new Basketball commissioner.
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Quote from: sharon on November 20, 2011, 09:34:05 AM
Quote from: MuffyBee on November 20, 2011, 08:47:35 AM
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/11/20/SP0U1M1NOL.DTL
Unlike NFL lockout, NBA's threatens season
November 20, 2011
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NBA season in jeopardy
The NBA's lockout succeeded the NFL's, has lasted longer, and there's one significant difference: Football's labor dispute resulted in the loss of only a single exhibition game, while the NBA is on its way to a shortened regular season - if one is played at all.
NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell spoke repeatedly about getting a deal done and keeping the season intact. When the most recent round of NBA talks broke off Monday, Commissioner David Stern spoke about a "nuclear winter" and said it appeared "the 2011-12 season is really in jeopardy."
For the time being, the only chance to see All-Stars such as LeBron James or Dwight Howard in action is to catch one of the player-organized games for charity. Unless, that is, some of them follow through on opportunities to play overseas: Kobe Bryant was in contact with a team in Italy; Dwyane Wade authorized his agent to listen to viable offers.
NFL players didn't have that international option, of course.
Both leagues' labor problems began, at their heart, as arguments over how to divide billions of dollars in revenues - about $9 billion for the NFL, $4 billion for the NBA - but also over how to change the rules governing player contracts and free agency. Both featured acrimonious dialogue in public. Both bothered fans who couldn't understand why it was so hard to find common ground.
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Once this fiasco is finally over -- whatever year that may be --
I hope there will be a new Basketball commissioner.
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ITA Sharon, "I hope there will be a new Basketball commissioner."
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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/22/sports/basketball/nba-players-merge-lawsuits.html
N.B.A. Players Merge Lawsuits; No Hearing Date Set
November 21, 2011
Two antitrust lawsuits filed by players against the N.B.A. were merged on Monday in the hope of bringing a swifter judgment against the league, and a swifter end to the lockout.
The decision was announced by David Boies and Jonathan Schiller, whose law firm was hired last week by the National Basketball Players Association. Boies and Schiller will remain the lead lawyers in the case.
Locked-out players filed two lawsuits in federal court last week, in separate jurisdictions, by independent legal teams. The courts would have eventually combined the complaints, because they were similar and sought the same remedy. Merging them now removes one obstacle.
“If we had not done this, at some point the courts would have done this,” Boies said in a news conference at his Manhattan office.
He added: “If we’d waited, it would have taken 6, 8, 12 weeks. This solves that issue now and allows us to move forward.”
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http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/23/report-nba-owners-players-have-opened-negotiations-again/related
Report: NBA owners, players have opened negotiations again
Kurt Helin
Nov 23, 2011, 1:34 PM EST
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And they are talking again, according to Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo. Here are his tweets.
NBA and players resumed talks on Tuesday to try and end the lockout before the cancellation of Christmas games, two sources told Y! Sports.
Talks were expected to continue today, sources said, and one league source tells Y!: “We should know more by later this evening.”
Derek Fisher isn’t a part of the talks now, sources say.
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Well, I don't know. We just want to watch some basketball, hey?!
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Quote from: MuffyBee on November 23, 2011, 07:03:27 PM
Well, I don't know. We just want to watch some basketball, hey?!
That we do!!!!! I've got my fingers crossed.
(love the emoticon!)
Happy Thanksgiving MuffyBee
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http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/11/25/2518821/ap-source-nba-players-meeting.html
NBA owners, players reach tentative deal
By BRIAN MAHONEY
AP Basketball Writer
NEW YORK -- NBA owners and players reached a tentative agreement early Saturday to end the 149-day lockout and hope to begin the delayed season on Christmas Day.
Neither side provided many specifics but said the only words players and fans wanted to hear.
"We want to play basketball," Commissioner David Stern said.
After a secret meeting earlier this week, the sides met for more than 15 hours Friday, working to try to save the season. This handshake deal, however, still must be ratified by both owners and players.
Stern said it was "subject to a variety of approvals and very complex machinations, but we're optimistic that will all come to pass and that the NBA season will begin Dec. 25."
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Quote from: sharon on November 26, 2011, 07:16:52 AM
http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/11/25/2518821/ap-source-nba-players-meeting.html
NBA owners, players reach tentative deal
By BRIAN MAHONEY
AP Basketball Writer
NEW YORK -- NBA owners and players reached a tentative agreement early Saturday to end the 149-day lockout and hope to begin the delayed season on Christmas Day.
Neither side provided many specifics but said the only words players and fans wanted to hear.
"We want to play basketball," Commissioner David Stern said.
After a secret meeting earlier this week, the sides met for more than 15 hours Friday, working to try to save the season. This handshake deal, however, still must be ratified by both owners and players.
Stern said it was "subject to a variety of approvals and very complex machinations,
but we're optimistic that will all come to pass and that the NBA season will begin Dec. 25."
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http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/11/26/nba-season-saved-just-in-time-for-christmas/?xid=gonewsedit&google_editors_picks=true
NBA Season Saved, Just In Time For Christmas
November 26, 2011
NBA fans will receive quite a gift this Christmas: a season. At around 3:30 AM Saturday morning, the NBA’s owners and players announced that they have reached a handshake agreement on a new collective bargaining agreement, after a 149-day lockout threatened to wipe out the entire 2011-2012 season. The season will tip-off on Christmas Day, and will feature a rematch of last year’s NBA Finals meeting between the Dallas Mavericks and Miami Heat. A majority of the NBA’s owners and players must approve the agreement, and although some people on both sides are not happy – “We (bleeping) caved,” one veteran player, who said he would not vote for the new deal, texted Yahoo! Sports – the deal’s approval is a mere formality. There will be pro basketball this year.
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Dear Santa..........
1. Bball tickets (and a D Wade jersey in RED)
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http://www.myfoxdfw.com/dpps/sports/basketball-back-in-focus-as-lockout-nears-end-dpgapx-20111130-kh_16182966
Basketball Back in Focus as Lockout Nears End
November 30, 2011
Teams began talking to agents Wednesday as the lockout inched closer to its end, and basketball moved back into focus. Dwight Howard and Chris Paul were linked to trade speculation, while free agents such as Tyson Chandler and Nene were in the news after months of attorneys getting all the ink.
Now, the players are taking over and the league was set to reopen its facilities for workouts Thursday.
Some may arrive out of shape, just as was the case in January 1999 after the NBA's only other shortened season. But they're anxious to get back, with a little more than three weeks until they start playing games.
"The guys are going to come in and I'm sure they're going to be in good shape. They want to play," new Houston coach Kevin McHale told reporters.
"These guys have played basketball their entire lives. They love to play basketball and they're excited to get after it."
The league still hopes to open training camps and free agency next Friday, leaving both sides scrambling to get business finished in time.
The lawsuits have been settled, contingent upon the ratification of a new collective bargaining agreement by Dec. 9. Players are in the process of collecting the signatures needed to approve the reformation of the union, which must be done before the sides can resume bargaining on the remaining issues that must be settled before each side can vote.
NBA officials are working to complete a two-game exhibition schedule for each team that will lead to a 66-game regular season, starting with a five-game slate on Christmas.
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NBA releases five-game Christmas Day slate to open season
December 2, 2011
The NBA has announced the extra two games to open the 2011-12 season on Christmas Day, and the two will wrap up what will be a five-game holiday slate
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http://www.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/nba/story/2011-12-02/NBA-releases-five-game-Christmas-Day-slate-to-open-season/51585272/1
NBA releases five-game Christmas Day slate to open season
December 2, 2011
The NBA has announced the extra two games to open the 2011-12 season on Christmas Day, and the two will wrap up what will be a five-game holiday slate
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
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