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Topic: Lisa Irwin #6 11/02/11 - 11/17/11 (Read 419991 times)
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Titch
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Re: Lisa Irwin #6 11/02/11 - 11/17/11
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ProfilerPatB PAT BROWN
I will be on #HLN #PrimeNews at 5 pm est and #IssueswithJVM at 7:30 pm talking about #BabyLisa..
1 hour ago
http://twitter.com/#!/ProfilerPatB
T.Y. I caught PB and Vinnie and his guests. He outlined the characters, this is really hairy.
::justice2NJ::
Yep, a buncha real winners...
Pat brown mentioned a call to the "flop" house, geez, I need the transcript when it is available.
Who is Shane? I read earlier (SM) a Shane was present (reportly) at the I's house, on the evening LI disappeared?
No idea, I'm still going through old threads trying to get the full gist of everything. It all seems so confusing but I'm reminded of how bad Jaycee's dad looked & he was completely innocent. Ol' Deb might just be innocent in all of this mess... I know it looks bad, especially her stupid excuse of "adult time"...
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Re: Lisa Irwin #6 11/02/11 - 11/17/11
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Also, sometimes investigators say to people that take polys that they failed in order to see their reaction. If she said the polygrapher told her she's lying or hiding something, then she'd prob be lying bc normally they can't do that, the most professional ones don't as it's in bad taste & could end up coinciding with entrapment. Alot of times they'll tell the police investigator that the suspect is hiding something but for le to come right out & say she's lying just doesn't sound right to me...not to say it to her unless they suspect she has more info that she's not revealing. Maybe le said to her that she's not fully cooperating, not sure about the lying part of the poly though.
One thing I do know, though... Somebody is guiding them along bc otherwise they wouldn't be smart enough to know they can turn down being questioned apart from one another. Even during a depo their significant other can be present, but most people don't know that. They didn;t obtain a lawyer right at the very second Lisa went missing so I'm wondering is there le in the family? Who would have been smart enough to teach them that?
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Re: Lisa Irwin #6 11/02/11 - 11/17/11
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Wanted to add to my last post: Not unless a person is legally deemed a suspect or person of interest to be interrogated...difference between being questioned vs interrogated.
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Re: Lisa Irwin #6 11/02/11 - 11/17/11
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flutter 1 said
I read it different CW, I thought someone had taken the PO out against him
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12266.msg1486313#msg1486313
yes i read/typed wrong
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seahorse said
CW618, Do you know where was the dumpster fire was on the morning LI disappeared? By any chance was it at W.O.? TIA
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12266.msg1486305#msg1486305
dumster fire addy @:04
4897 north east 37th street kansas city
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBPrwG2_TZM
map of area,i think that, that addy maybe called, the fire in,and the only dumpster
they could see from that addy,would be the one on the NW corner,of N brighton and
NE 37th, its sitting on the corner of the lawn and walkway in front of building
look in the middle of img to the far right of img
http://g.co/maps/nx59h
close up center of screen
http://g.co/maps/497du
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Re: Lisa Irwin #6 11/02/11 - 11/17/11
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November 08, 2011, 07:25:02 PM »
hey monkeys,that dane/shane info,was it said how this info of him at the house
was gleaned,tip,MW,or him self?
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Re: Lisa Irwin #6 11/02/11 - 11/17/11
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Quote from: seahorse on November 08, 2011, 06:28:22 PM
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Quote from: seahorse on November 08, 2011, 06:15:03 PM
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ProfilerPatB PAT BROWN
I will be on #HLN #PrimeNews at 5 pm est and #IssueswithJVM at 7:30 pm talking about #BabyLisa..
1 hour ago
http://twitter.com/#!/ProfilerPatB
T.Y. I caught PB and Vinnie and his guests. He outlined the characters, this is really hairy.
::justice2NJ::
Yep, a buncha real winners...
Pat brown mentioned a call to the "flop" house, geez, I need the transcript when it is available.
Who is Shane? I read earlier (SM) a Shane was present (reportly) at the I's house, on the evening LI disappeared?
No idea, I'm still going through old threads trying to get the full gist of everything. It all seems so confusing but I'm reminded of how bad Jaycee's dad looked & he was completely innocent. Ol' Deb might just be innocent in all of this mess... I know it looks bad, especially her stupid excuse of "adult time"...
I am trying to keep an open mind, too, Titch...it is difficult, I read the uncle is coaching DB to confess, read on JQ.
The neighbor calls himself "Shane", IDK if that is really the neighbor's name or not, or if he is a wantabe
Male neighbor says he smoked with Baby Lisa's mom on night girl vanished
Add a comment Cindy Adams, Crime Examiner
Kansas City, Mo. - A man has come forward saying he smoked and talked with the mother of missing 11-month-old Lisa Irwin and her friend on the front porch of the Irwin home on the night the baby went missing.
CNN correspondent Jim Spellman told HLN's Vinnie Politan that he spoke with the man another neighbor who calls himself Shane.
Shane says he smoked and chatted with Deborah Bradley and her next door neighbor Samantha Brando from about 7:00 to 7:30 p.m.
He claims to have left the two women on the porch at around 8:30 or 9:00 p.m. Shane noted that he saw Brando at her home at around 10:30 p.m., but did not see Bradley.
http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-national/male-neighbor-says-he-smoked-with-baby-lisa-s-mom-on-night-girl-vanished
ME: What did they smoke?
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Re: Lisa Irwin #6 11/02/11 - 11/17/11
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Quote from: cw618 on November 08, 2011, 07:22:23 PM
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flutter 1 said
I read it different CW, I thought someone had taken the PO out against him
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12266.msg1486313#msg1486313
yes i read/typed wrong
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seahorse said
CW618, Do you know where was the dumpster fire was on the morning LI disappeared? By any chance was it at W.O.? TIA
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12266.msg1486305#msg1486305
dumster fire addy @:04
4897 north east 37th street kansas city
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBPrwG2_TZM
map of area,i think that, that addy maybe called, the fire in,and the only dumpster
they could see from that addy,would be the one on the NW corner,of N brighton and
NE 37th, its sitting on the corner of the lawn and walkway in front of building
look in the middle of img to the far right of img
http://g.co/maps/nx59h
close up center of screen
http://g.co/maps/497du
Thank-you, CW618,
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Re: Lisa Irwin #6 11/02/11 - 11/17/11
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Quote from: cw618 on November 08, 2011, 07:25:02 PM
hey monkeys,that dane/shane info,was it said how this info of him at the house
was gleaned,tip,MW,or him self?
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Lisa Irwin case: Version 6.0, Uncle ...www.thehinkymeter.com
31 posts - 15 authors - Last post: 16 hours ago
oh, no. apparently the picture on Justice For Lisa Irwin is listed one of MW's ....
Shane Beagley
also on Deb's porch that night. half hour maybe. ...
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp=ppwl&cp=24&gs_id=20&xhr=t&q=lisa+irwin+case,+%22shane%22&pf=p&sclient=psy-ab&site=&source=hp&pbx=1&oq=lisa+irwin+case,+%22shane%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=664c62411796fbc8&biw=1280&bih=571
I do not know if it was a tip or what the heck, why "smokey" to come out.
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Re: Lisa Irwin #6 11/02/11 - 11/17/11
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Quote from: seahorse on November 08, 2011, 07:36:03 PM
Quote from: cw618 on November 08, 2011, 07:25:02 PM
hey monkeys,that dane/shane info,was it said how this info of him at the house
was gleaned,tip,MW,or him self?
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Lisa Irwin case: Version 6.0, Uncle ...www.thehinkymeter.com
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oh, no. apparently the picture on Justice For Lisa Irwin is listed one of MW's ....
Shane Beagley
also on Deb's porch that night. half hour maybe. ...
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp=ppwl&cp=24&gs_id=20&xhr=t&q=lisa+irwin+case,+%22shane%22&pf=p&sclient=psy-ab&site=&source=hp&pbx=1&oq=lisa+irwin+case,+%22shane%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=664c62411796fbc8&biw=1280&bih=571
I do not know if it was a tip or what the heck, why "smokey" to come out.
Do you remember Robert Beagley who said his Mother lived two doors down from the Irwins? He said on Monday the 3rd baby Lisa waved to him as she looked through the door.
This is one of the original quotes from thread 1 by Itarly Moosee:
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I was checking the "helpfindlisairwin" page in Facebook, and I came across this guy's comment, his name is Robert Lee Beagley.
Reading people's time lines across the net, brings me to think that this guy should be in it, as he was someone who saw the baby on the same day she disappeared.
I know people see high-profile cases, and they want to somehow inject themselves in them, regardless of what damage their statements cause to the case. The guy who swore he saw a guy with the baby in a diaper, to me, is an example.
So, this guy saw baby Lisa waving goodbye to him from the front door.
I gotta ask, could the baby see from the front door to the street out? Possibly, but I'm not sure.
Any relation?
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Re: Lisa Irwin #6 11/02/11 - 11/17/11
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Is there a pic of Robert Beagley?
Any info on him?
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Re: Lisa Irwin #6 11/02/11 - 11/17/11
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is robert related to thelma,...thelma is my grannies name love that name and granny
"I just hope it was someone that wanted a baby and is taking good care of her now," says Thelma Beagley, 77, who lives two doors down. "That's what all of us want just to bring little Lisa home safe and sound."
http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2011/10/23/missing_baby_lisa_irwins_mother_we_hav
Thelma Beagley, 77, a neighbor, stood in her driveway as detectives searched the family's one-story home. Police also cordoned off neighboring homes with yellow caution tape.
Beagley, whose driveway was covered with children's chalk drawings, said she would periodically see Lisa and her mother out in the yard with another neighbor who has young children.
"Every so often they would bring little Lisa over so I could see her," Beagley said. "She was just a typical little baby. Kind of bubbly."
She said Lisa's parents seemed to be wonderful caretakers.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/10/06/ap/business/main20116479.shtml
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Re: Lisa Irwin #6 11/02/11 - 11/17/11
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Quote from: cartfly on November 08, 2011, 05:19:57 PM
Pinky (Megan) claims Dane had her phone Oct 3 and 4 Dane living there about a week.
MW told Jim Spellman that she thinks "Dane" had her phone all of Oct. 3 and 4. I found that interesting because now that she has made her FB public, I was scrolling through her postings, and I noticed that on Oct. 4 at 1:36 am she posted a response on her page VIA MOBILE
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7331087&postcount=392
from aks9847 at websleuths post 392
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Re: Lisa Irwin #6 11/02/11 - 11/17/11
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thelma ann beagley
http://www.facebook.com/thelma.beagley
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Re: Lisa Irwin #6 11/02/11 - 11/17/11
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I feel like all these extra characters are just a distraction. If any of these extras are guilty of anything, it is most likely providing drugs to one or more of the other characters. I can not see any of them helping DB dispose of a baby or even kidnapping a baby.
The only extra character that bothers me in this John Jersey Tanko. He looks mentally disturbed at best and very shady.... other than Jersey, things keep pointing back to Deborah for me.
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Re: Lisa Irwin #6 11/02/11 - 11/17/11
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Quote from: cartfly on November 08, 2011, 08:08:20 PM
I feel like all these extra characters are just a distraction. If any of these extras are guilty of anything, it is most likely providing drugs to one or more of the other characters. I can not see any of them helping DB dispose of a baby or even kidnapping a baby.
The only extra character that bothers me in this John Jersey Tanko. He looks mentally disturbed at best and very shady.... other than Jersey,
things keep pointing back to Deborah for me
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Re: Lisa Irwin #6 11/02/11 - 11/17/11
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a Shane Beagley
http://www.facebook.com/shane.beagley
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Re: Lisa Irwin #6 11/02/11 - 11/17/11
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Quote from: pharlap on November 08, 2011, 07:56:49 PM
Is there a pic of Robert Beagley?
Any info on him?
This man just commented about the Irwin's in the media early on. I don't think he has any bearing on this at all.
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Re: Lisa Irwin #6 11/02/11 - 11/17/11
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Lisa Irwin: HLN News 11/8/11
(HT Sierra)
http://www.youtube.com/user/Sierra1947#p/u/0/v-HPKq391To
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Quote from: Titch on November 08, 2011, 06:46:17 PM
Also, sometimes investigators say to people that take polys that they failed in order to see their reaction. If she said the polygrapher told her she's lying or hiding something, then she'd prob be lying bc normally they can't do that, the most professional ones don't as it's in bad taste & could end up coinciding with entrapment. Alot of times they'll tell the police investigator that the suspect is hiding something but for le to come right out & say she's lying just doesn't sound right to me...not to say it to her unless they suspect she has more info that she's not revealing. Maybe le said to her that she's not fully cooperating, not sure about the lying part of the poly though.
One thing I do know, though... Somebody is guiding them along bc otherwise they wouldn't be smart enough to know they can turn down being questioned apart from one another. Even during a depo their significant other can be present, but most people don't know that. They didn;t obtain a lawyer right at the very second Lisa went missing so I'm wondering is there le in the family? Who would have been smart enough to teach them that?
Titch I read somewhere that Ashley Irwin (Jeremy's sister) is/was studying law. She might have been giving them advice in the beginning before they 'lawyered up.'
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RussPtacek Russ Ptacek
Megan Wright says friend who had phone was interrogated by FBI. Interview at 10. #babylisa #lisairwin
1 minute ago
http://twitter.com/#!/search/%23lisairwin
Edit- fixed link. MB
So that is the Dane guy,right?
Then we have Shane Beagley(sp?) who was smoking ciggies out on the stoop with Deborah Bradley and her friend Samantha Brando on the night Lisa went missing.
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===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
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