Lisa Irwin #6 11/02/11 - 11/17/11

[trimmonthelake]

RussPtacek Russ Ptacek
Restraining order shows friend Megan Wright says had phone was once accused of threatening to kill girlfriend. #babylisa #lisairwin
5 minutes ago http://twitter.com/#!/RussPtacek

[trimmonthelake]

Correct link for reply 419. http://twitter.com/#!/search/%23lisairwin

[seahorse]

http://www.justicequest.net/forums/showthread.php?p=1094839#post1094839

Katie Lady Post 278  Has another snippet 

[Titch]

Also, sometimes investigators say to people that take polys that they failed in order to see their reaction. If she said the polygrapher told her she's lying or hiding something, then she'd prob be lying bc normally they can't do that, the most professional ones don't as it's in bad taste & could end up coinciding with entrapment. Alot of times they'll tell the police investigator that the suspect is hiding something but for le to come right out & say she's lying just doesn't sound right to me...not to say it to her unless they suspect she has more info that she's not revealing. Maybe le said to her that she's not fully cooperating, not sure about the lying part of the poly though.

One thing I do know, though... Somebody is guiding them along bc otherwise they wouldn't be smart enough to know they can turn down being questioned apart from one another. Even during a depo their significant other can be present, but most people don't know that. They didn;t obtain a lawyer right at the very second Lisa went missing so I'm wondering is there le in the family? Who would have been smart enough to teach them that?

Titch I read somewhere that Ashley Irwin (Jeremy's sister) is/was studying law. She might have been giving them advice in the beginning before they 'lawyered up.'

Well there ya go! Somebody studying case law would do just that...but it's idiotic & a seasoned lawyer would know better bc the police will only help those that help THEM. That's why we see so many plea bargains bc it's a win/win situation when that occurs.

[seahorse]

RussPtacek Russ Ptacek
Megan Wright says friend who had phone was interrogated by FBI. Interview at 10. #babylisa #lisairwin
1 minute ago http://twitter.com/#!/search/%23lisairwin

So that is the Dane guy,right?

Then we have Shane Beagley(sp?) who was smoking ciggies out on the stoop with Deborah Bradley and her friend Samantha Brando on the night Lisa went missing.

I did not read, he was smoking ciggies.  I believe he said smoking with D.B.
Does she smoke ciggies?  I question what they were smoking, since it took so long for this to surface.

[cartfly]

RussPtacek Russ Ptacek
Megan Wright says friend who had phone was interrogated by FBI. Interview at 10. #babylisa #lisairwin
1 minute ago http://twitter.com/#!/search/%23lisairwin

So that is the Dane guy,right?

Then we have Shane Beagley(sp?) who was smoking ciggies out on the stoop with Deborah Bradley and her friend Samantha Brando on the night Lisa went missing.

I did not read, he was smoking ciggies.  I believe he said smoking with D.B.
Does she smoke ciggies?  I question what they were smoking, since it took so long for this to surface.

Yep, DB does smoke ciggys,  I think Jeremy does too. And yes Trimm, you are right Shane and Dane are two different peeps.....ugh

[trimmonthelake]

RussPtacek Russ Ptacek
Megan Wright says friend who had phone was interrogated by FBI. Interview at 10. #babylisa #lisairwin
1 minute ago http://twitter.com/#!/search/%23lisairwin

So that is the Dane guy,right?

Then we have Shane Beagley(sp?) who was smoking ciggies out on the stoop with Deborah Bradley and her friend Samantha Brando on the night Lisa went missing.

I did not read, he was smoking ciggies.  I believe he said smoking with D.B.
Does she smoke ciggies?  I question what they were smoking, since it took so long for this to surface.

Smoking,you are right.
 Yes Deborah Bradley smokes ciggies,but who knows what they were smoking that night. 
http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-national/male-neighbor-says-he-smoked-with-baby-lisa-s-mom-on-night-girl-vanished
Kansas City, Mo. - A man has come forward saying he smoked and talked with the mother of missing 11-month-old Lisa Irwin and her friend on the front porch of the Irwin home on the night the baby went missing.

CNN correspondent Jim Spellman told HLN's Vinnie Politan that he spoke with the man – another neighbor who calls himself “Shane.”

Shane says he smoked and chatted with Deborah Bradley and her next door neighbor Samantha Brando from about 7:00 to 7:30 p.m.

He claims to have left the two women on the porch at around 8:30 or 9:00 p.m. Shane noted that he saw Brando at her home at around 10:30 p.m., but did not see Bradley.
 ::snipping2::

[trimmonthelake]

http://www.kansascity.com/2011/11/01/3243027/a-look-back-at-a-critical-night.html
Posted on Tue, Nov. 01, 2011 10:15 PM
The night before her 10-month-old daughter disappeared, Deborah Bradley spent several hours talking with a friend, smoking cigarettes and drinking five to 10 glasses of wine.

Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2011/11/01/3243027/a-look-back-at-a-critical-night.html#ixzz1dAUsI06J

[trimmonthelake]

RussPtacek Russ Ptacek
Megan Wright says friend who had phone was interrogated by FBI. Interview at 10. #babylisa #lisairwin
1 minute ago http://twitter.com/#!/search/%23lisairwin

So that is the Dane guy,right?

Then we have Shane Beagley(sp?) who was smoking ciggies out on the stoop with Deborah Bradley and her friend Samantha Brando on the night Lisa went missing.

I did not read, he was smoking ciggies.  I believe he said smoking with D.B.
Does she smoke ciggies?  I question what they were smoking, since it took so long for this to surface.

Yep, DB does smoke ciggys,  I think Jeremy does too. And yes Trimm, you are right Shane and Dane are two different peeps.....ugh

Yes,IIRC we saw them smoking on some of the news footage.
What a mess with all the extra characters.My head hurts. 

[seahorse]

RussPtacek Russ Ptacek
Megan Wright says friend who had phone was interrogated by FBI. Interview at 10. #babylisa #lisairwin
1 minute ago http://twitter.com/#!/search/%23lisairwin

So that is the Dane guy,right?

Then we have Shane Beagley(sp?) who was smoking ciggies out on the stoop with Deborah Bradley and her friend Samantha Brando on the night Lisa went missing.

I did not read, he was smoking ciggies.  I believe he said smoking with D.B.
Does she smoke ciggies?  I question what they were smoking, since it took so long for this to surface.

Yep, DB does smoke ciggys,  I think Jeremy does too. And yes Trimm, you are right Shane and Dane are two different peeps.....ugh

Yes,IIRC we saw them smoking on some of the news footage.
What a mess with all the extra characters.My head hurts. 

Thank-you. Sorry for my evil thoughts

[Itaryl Moosee]

This is a picture (copy) of Mr. Beagle's post on October 5th:



It is a close community and it seems everyone is related to everyone else. This guy has a Facebook page with lots of pictures. I didn't check past the 10th.

http://www.facebook.com/bob.beagley

[BabsKats]

Also, sometimes investigators say to people that take polys that they failed in order to see their reaction. If she said the polygrapher told her she's lying or hiding something, then she'd prob be lying bc normally they can't do that, the most professional ones don't as it's in bad taste & could end up coinciding with entrapment. Alot of times they'll tell the police investigator that the suspect is hiding something but for le to come right out & say she's lying just doesn't sound right to me...not to say it to her unless they suspect she has more info that she's not revealing. Maybe le said to her that she's not fully cooperating, not sure about the lying part of the poly though.

One thing I do know, though... Somebody is guiding them along bc otherwise they wouldn't be smart enough to know they can turn down being questioned apart from one another. Even during a depo their significant other can be present, but most people don't know that. They didn;t obtain a lawyer right at the very second Lisa went missing so I'm wondering is there le in the family? Who would have been smart enough to teach them that?

Titch I read somewhere that Ashley Irwin (Jeremy's sister) is/was studying law. She might have been giving them advice in the beginning before they 'lawyered up.'

Well there ya go! Somebody studying case law would do just that...but it's idiotic & a seasoned lawyer would know better bc the police will only help those that help THEM. That's why we see so many plea bargains bc it's a win/win situation when that occurs.

Remember also early on in the first few days after Lisa went missing there was talk of an Attorney/ uncle from Texas that had come up to KC to assist in the case!  Don't ever remember it being confirmed because soon after Taco-man appeared on the scene.

[Itaryl Moosee]

There's more about this guy, not that he may have a thing to do with Lisa's kidnapping.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12149.msg1474264#msg1474264

Quoting this because there isn't much else new.

[trimmonthelake]

RussPtacek Russ Ptacek
Megan Wright says friend who had phone was interrogated by FBI. Interview at 10. #babylisa #lisairwin
1 minute ago http://twitter.com/#!/search/%23lisairwin

So that is the Dane guy,right?

Then we have Shane Beagley(sp?) who was smoking ciggies out on the stoop with Deborah Bradley and her friend Samantha Brando on the night Lisa went missing.

I did not read, he was smoking ciggies.  I believe he said smoking with D.B.
Does she smoke ciggies?  I question what they were smoking, since it took so long for this to surface.

Yep, DB does smoke ciggys,  I think Jeremy does too. And yes Trimm, you are right Shane and Dane are two different peeps.....ugh

Yes,IIRC we saw them smoking on some of the news footage.
What a mess with all the extra characters.My head hurts. 

Thank-you. Sorry for my evil thoughts

[trimmonthelake]

This is a picture (copy) of Mr. Beagle's post on October 5th:



It is a close community and it seems everyone is related to everyone else. This guy has a Facebook page with lots of pictures. I didn't check past the 10th.

http://www.facebook.com/bob.beagley

Thank you!

[Titch]

Also, sometimes investigators say to people that take polys that they failed in order to see their reaction. If she said the polygrapher told her she's lying or hiding something, then she'd prob be lying bc normally they can't do that, the most professional ones don't as it's in bad taste & could end up coinciding with entrapment. Alot of times they'll tell the police investigator that the suspect is hiding something but for le to come right out & say she's lying just doesn't sound right to me...not to say it to her unless they suspect she has more info that she's not revealing. Maybe le said to her that she's not fully cooperating, not sure about the lying part of the poly though.

One thing I do know, though... Somebody is guiding them along bc otherwise they wouldn't be smart enough to know they can turn down being questioned apart from one another. Even during a depo their significant other can be present, but most people don't know that. They didn;t obtain a lawyer right at the very second Lisa went missing so I'm wondering is there le in the family? Who would have been smart enough to teach them that?

Titch I read somewhere that Ashley Irwin (Jeremy's sister) is/was studying law. She might have been giving them advice in the beginning before they 'lawyered up.'

Well there ya go! Somebody studying case law would do just that...but it's idiotic & a seasoned lawyer would know better bc the police will only help those that help THEM. That's why we see so many plea bargains bc it's a win/win situation when that occurs.

Remember also early on in the first few days after Lisa went missing there was talk of an Attorney/ uncle from Texas that had come up to KC to assist in the case!  Don't ever remember it being confirmed because soon after Taco-man appeared on the scene.

Thanks Babs! W that.t know that. I'm going back to the beginning threads again so I can try to finish it all tonight. Hopefully by the morning I'll be up to speed.

[Titch]

I have no idea what's going on with my comments. I typed something different - not that gibberish! ugggh! I wrote this - I didn't know that.

[StarMonkey]

This is shane beagleys ex wife  raechels MySpace
His pics are here..
 http://m.myspace.com/home.wap?bfd=webnext&isredirected=true#friends.list/pic/408208264/1149328/12450570

Thy were divorced this year. Thy have kids he was ordered to pay child support.
He's 32

[StarMonkey]

Here is shane beagleys ex yearbook page she's bisexual
 http://www.myyearbook.com/members/31426162

[Tamikosmom]

Attempted Call From Phone of Baby Lisa's Mother Brings New Questions
Published November 08, 2011

On the night baby Lisa Irwin disappeared, someone attempted to use her mother's cell phone to call a woman whose ex-boyfriend has a reported history of break-ins in the vicinity of the family's Kansas City home, according to police.

Megan Wright, who had been residing at a home a mile from Deborah Bradley, Lisa's mother, denies ever having received the call. She said she shared the phone with seven others and did not have the phone in her possession during the alleged call, which was attempted on the night the 10-month-old Lisa disappeared.

A resident from Wright's home contradicted her recollection, and said house members do not share phones. Both parents have said they were incapable of making phone calls, KCTV5.com reported.

<snipped>

Wright said she dated a local handyman known as “Jersey,” whom she described as a drifter who would go door-to-door looking for work, the station reported.

“Jersey” was interviewed by police and cleared of any involvement in the baby’s disappearance, Steve Young, a spokesman from the Kansas City Police Department, told the station.

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/08/questions-surround-attempted-phone-call-from-baby-lisas-mothers-phone/