Lisa Irwin #6 11/02/11 - 11/17/11

[stayhomemommy]

What I don't understand is how there is no trace of this child! Where is she? If she were not alive, wouldn't they have found something by now? Unless someone drove the body somewhere far enough away, right?

I don't believe Lisa is alive, but it certainly makes me wonder if she indeed was handed-off alive. I just think it's harder to hide a dead body than a live one. A child that young could have easily been disguised as the opposite sex and pretty much hiding in plain sight.

So, did DB sell the child to sex/child porn people? Did she otherwise hand off the child to pay off a drug debt or such?

I know it seems most likely the child was dead before she left that house, but with seemingly nothing turning up a trace of her, I am beginning to wonder.

Just putting my thoughts out there.

Personally, I dont think she is alive. I also don't think she was hid or buried. I feel that she was probably put in the river and there is no trace.... ::

That's true. I had forgotten about the very large river nearby.

[seahorse]

http://blinkoncrime.com/2011/10/28/lisa-irwin-missing-cell-phone-call-made-from-moms-phone-at-230-am-taco-quotes-donald-trump-kids-under-subpoena/#comments

4. WPG says:
November 13, 2011 at 11:40 am
Taking into consideration that a call was allegedly placed from a Bradley phone to Megan’s at 11:57pm and :

* both Megan and Dane were at the flophouse at that time, as were others
* another flophouse resident claims to have seen a panicked Dane on the phone (or “a” phone) when they arose from bed at midnight
* Megan claims she got her phone back somewhere between 11:30 and midnight, with its entire history erased

Couple of things.

Megan made this claim BEFORE details of the phone records with the 11:57pm call were made public (by the defense team). She also allegedly “relocated” to Springville just before the release of the phone records and has not been back on her Q & A facebook page accordingly as well.

Dane has allegedly “disappeared"

http://blinkoncrime.com/2011/10/28/lisa-irwin-missing-cell-phone-call-made-from-moms-phone-at-230-am-taco-quotes-donald-trump-kids-under-subpoena/#comments


ME:  I guess the poster answered my question:) I guess Miss Pinky has not made her self assessible to Q & A's.
 

[tupelohoney]

http://blinkoncrime.com/2011/10/28/lisa-irwin-missing-cell-phone-call-made-from-moms-phone-at-230-am-taco-quotes-donald-trump-kids-under-subpoena/#comments

4. WPG says:
November 13, 2011 at 11:40 am
Taking into consideration that a call was allegedly placed from a Bradley phone to Megan’s at 11:57pm and :

* both Megan and Dane were at the flophouse at that time, as were others
* another flophouse resident claims to have seen a panicked Dane on the phone (or “a” phone) when they arose from bed at midnight
* Megan claims she got her phone back somewhere between 11:30 and midnight, with its entire history erased

Couple of things.

Megan made this claim BEFORE details of the phone records with the 11:57pm call were made public (by the defense team). She also allegedly “relocated” to Springville just before the release of the phone records and has not been back on her Q & A facebook page accordingly as well.

Dane has allegedly “disappeared"

http://blinkoncrime.com/2011/10/28/lisa-irwin-missing-cell-phone-call-made-from-moms-phone-at-230-am-taco-quotes-donald-trump-kids-under-subpoena/#comments


ME:  I guess the poster answered my question:) I guess Miss Pinky has not made her self assessible to Q & A's.
 

She just posted on FB   first one since she left, that I know of.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Megan-Wright-Q-A-Baby-Lisa/157096327722971

Bonnie Broadway
Hey Megan, WB The police have said they are 'moving on ' from Jersey. Was there anything you noticed about him or heard him say during your dating time that either made you feel he was capable of harming a child OR made you feel like he really loved children and was gentle with them? IE: talking about a niece or nephew he really loved, etc etc.. tks
Like ·  · 4 minutes ago ·

Megan Wright: Q & A, Baby Lisa While Jersey and I were together, I babysat for a neighbor. The girl was three years old. Jersey was there day in and day out with me while I was responsible for this girl. He never once made me think that her life was even remotely in dang...
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49 seconds ago · Like

[tupelohoney]

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Megan-Wright-Q-A-Baby-Lisa/157096327722971

She has been there, here's more responses:

Theresa Miner
So, what do you think of the phone call megan...do you think it's important...do you think it will lead to finding lisa?
Like ·  · 26 minutes ago ·

Megan Wright: Q & A, Baby Lisa I honestly don't know what to think about the phone call. I know that it has drastically changed my life. If the phone call doesn't lead to finding Lisa, I hope that all I have done to answer questions will spark something that will bring Lisa home to her family.
20 minutes ago · Like ·  1


Fallon Sweeney
Megan. Have you been in contact with LE since you left KC?
Like ·  · 42 minutes ago ·

Megan Wright: Q & A, Baby Lisa I haven't had any contact with law enforcement since before Jersey was arrested. Not for lack of trying on my part.
39 minutes ago · Like ·  4

Julie Callahan Roberts
Did Dane use your phone that night?? Who is Jason? And, who is the girl giving Fox 4 an interview that was also in the house?
Like ·  · 48 minutes ago ·
Candace Bean likes this.

Megan Wright: Q & A, Baby Lisa From what I've been told, Dane had my phone all night. I'm not sure who the person was who gave Fox an interview.
38 minutes ago · Like ·  3


There is quite a few resonses

[tupelohoney]

Theresa Miner
The only way this page is going to help find lisa is if the person who took lisa knew you.....
Like ·  · about an hour ago ·


Megan Wright: Q & A, Baby Lisa I've been threatened by law enforcement with obstruction of justice [prior to starting this page] and accessory to "whatever happens at the end of this case" direct quote from a detective during my interrogation. I'm still not afraid. I have nothing to hide. I've spent so much time answering everyone's questions it's not even funny. I've spent hours doing interviews with police, private investigators, reporters and countless hours trying to keep up with questions from Facebook users. Why would I do all that if I had something to hide?
11 minutes ago · Like ·  1

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Megan-Wright-Q-A-Baby-Lisa/157096327722971

[NCSunny]

TY desi,for the timeline,you did a great job,in fact i trashed my timeline
notes,its really nice to be able,to go to 1 loc. to check it
timeline link
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12352.0

spoodie interesting,on the free connect idea,i have a game system setup on wi-fi,and the
kids laptop,i did an experiment yesterday,a friend with a smart phone,checked to see if
he could find my connect outside of the house,well he could,1 house away,in 2 directions,
but not in the other 2 dirs,my connect for the game system is the one he connected to, as
you said it was not set to private,among some other stuff,the boosters have some security
features too,im secure now no one driving by,looking at their phone,going hey i got a wi-fi
connect,and to think i paid to have it setup
O/T
FYI for wi-fi users,this will get you started for security
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2369262,00.asp#fbid=K3wbSOsJc7M
http://www.firewallguide.com/wireless.htm

Sorry for the O/T

Wow, TY CW...who knew. I would have expected a heads up from my provider on this, but...nada.

Again, thanks

[tupelohoney]

http://www.facebook.com/notes/megan-lynn-lover-wright/fb-comment-turned-into-my-public-statement-about-being-an-attention-whore/10150412118918729

FB comment, turned into my public statement about being an "attention whore"

by Megan Lynn-Lover Wright on Sunday, November 13, 2011 at 5:39pm

[tupelohoney]

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Megan-Wright-Q-A-Baby-Lisa/157096327722971

Megan Wright: Q & A, Baby Lisa
Here's the deal.... I have a FAQ sheet as well as a timeline of Oct 3rd into the 4th in the works. Until I get them finished I probably won't be on this page much. If you have an important question for me, please hit up my inbox. Thanks =] Also, please understand that I just moved half way across the state and I'm still getting settled and used to life here. My access to the internet is LIMITED. Don't freak out if it takes me a day or two to respond. ♥
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I guess she will now refer to her FAQ for answers.  Strange....just like everything else in this case.  She has been so inconsistent and said she told LE her times were her best guesses, as she didn't have her phone, which keeps her up with the time of day.  IDK....just strange.

[trimmonthelake]

http://www.facebook.com/notes/megan-lynn-lover-wright/fb-comment-turned-into-my-public-statement-about-being-an-attention-whore/10150412118918729

FB comment, turned into my public statement about being an "attention whore"

by Megan Lynn-Lover Wright on Sunday, November 13, 2011 at 5:39pm

Thanks Tupelo. 
I wonder if anyone has told her to STHU yet?She seem to like the drama.

[trimmonthelake]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2061034/Baby-Lisa-Irwin-missing-Parents-lawyer-evidence-proves-theyre-innocent.html
'Our clients are telling the truth': Lawyer for Baby Lisa's parents claims he has the evidence that proves they are innocent
By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 6:44 PM on 13th November 2011
A mysterious call from a cell phone reportedly stolen when Lisa Irwin vanished is proof that her parents are innocent, their lawyer said Saturday.

Investigators are still searching for Baby Lisa, last seen when her mother, Deborah Bradley, said she put her to bed the evening of October 3.

Lisa's father, Jeremy Irwin, said the girl was gone when he came home at 4am the next day.

The couple said their three cell phones were also missing.

Their lawyer, John Picerno, said on Fox News' 'Justice with Judge Jeanine' that one phone was used at 11:57pm October 3 to call the number of a woman the couple does not know.

The FBI told him of the call, Mr Picerno said.

While cops questioned Bradley and Irwin about the child's disappearance, the couple insists their daughter and the phones were stolen.

Mr Picerno said: The cell phone call that night is important evidence. What it tells you is our clients are telling the truth.'

'The caller never did reach the woman but a record of the call was logged, he said. The woman, identified by Picerno as Megan Wright, has told reporters she did not know Bradley nor Irwin and cannot explain the call.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2061034/Baby-Lisa-Irwin-missing-Parents-lawyer-evidence-proves-theyre-innocent.html#ixzz1ddJb6LnH

[tupelohoney]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2061034/Baby-Lisa-Irwin-missing-Parents-lawyer-evidence-proves-theyre-innocent.html
'Our clients are telling the truth': Lawyer for Baby Lisa's parents claims he has the evidence that proves they are innocent
By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 6:44 PM on 13th November 2011
A mysterious call from a cell phone reportedly stolen when Lisa Irwin vanished is proof that her parents are innocent, their lawyer said Saturday.

Investigators are still searching for Baby Lisa, last seen when her mother, Deborah Bradley, said she put her to bed the evening of October 3.

Lisa's father, Jeremy Irwin, said the girl was gone when he came home at 4am the next day.

The couple said their three cell phones were also missing.

Their lawyer, John Picerno, said on Fox News' 'Justice with Judge Jeanine' that one phone was used at 11:57pm October 3 to call the number of a woman the couple does not know.

The FBI told him of the call, Mr Picerno said.

While cops questioned Bradley and Irwin about the child's disappearance, the couple insists their daughter and the phones were stolen.

Mr Picerno said: The cell phone call that night is important evidence. What it tells you is our clients are telling the truth.'

'The caller never did reach the woman but a record of the call was logged, he said. The woman, identified by Picerno as Megan Wright, has told reporters she did not know Bradley nor Irwin and cannot explain the call.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2061034/Baby-Lisa-Irwin-missing-Parents-lawyer-evidence-proves-theyre-innocent.html#ixzz1ddJb6LnH

Not yet it doesn't, Mr Picerno. Could be the phone story is like CA's Universal Studio story.  moo

[trimmonthelake]

Tupelo,I agree.   

[tupelohoney]

Tupelo,I agree.   

Hey Trimm! 

Defense lawyers can fool some, but Baez taught me how a DT handles the guilty client.  Paid national tv appearances, the denial from the DT right before critical evidence comes out, the SODDI claim and of course........Lie and Deny is a constant.  Ethical?  Moral?  HA!  Never, with these types.  jmo

[cw618]

desi thanks no i just trashed the oct3/4 timeline i had,all other notes are
still intact, though they are just as jumbled and convoluted, like when the
info was made public,i was trying to do an in order of the characters appearance
i gave up on it though this case is......

i ran across kermits timeline,kermits has a few extra details,like clothes,and LE
confirming time JI was at work,i think kermits was b4 all the new info too
thanks kermit and desie
kermit
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12180.msg1485104#msg1485104
desie
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12352.msg1487664#msg1487664
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spoodie
I forgot to add that the reason the other 2 phones may not have been used is that they were not "smartphones" the person would have no ability to connect to the internet so naturally the other 2 wouldn't have even been tried. The phone from Debbies dad was not a smartphone, thats why she was manually adding numbers and maybe Jeremy's was a basic model also. There has been alot made about the other phones not being  used but,,,it could be as simple as this. Criminals are stupid, but they tend to be savvy about things that will make them money.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12266.msg1487748#msg1487748

all those dam phones
im not a big cphone person,i have the one in the link and it was given to me a
couple of yr ago,it has a browser/web access,i think a half minute at a time is
deducted,while online,i think i tried it twice but the OK/mouse button didnt work
well with my thumb,i bought a double the minute life time card,so now if i buy
400 minutes i get 800,i think the last time i bought minutes,it was a coupon card
for 59.95,for the 400,sorry to ramble,anyway some of the minute phones have web
access, i dont use the phone that often,guess im old school as far as far as phones
go,public phone conversations,irritate me, they never seem to be done quietly,always
on speaker

phone
http://offers.tracfone.com/en/lg410-60-minutes.html
cards
http://i.ebayimg.com/19/!CFenu6wCWk~$(KGrHqF,!ikE1NYfBdR2BNVO!St-w!~~_35.JPG

[trimmonthelake]

http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/no-normal-person-would-have-taken-baby-lisa-so-who-might-have?fb_comment_id=fbc_10150456453733103_20787359_10150456471328103&cmntid=10150456471328103&ref=notif&notif_t=comment_mention#f363d189db0f482
No normal person would have taken Baby Lisa - so who might have?
Isabelle Zehnder
, Missing Persons Examiner
November 13, 2011 -
KANSAS CITY, Missouri (Isabelle Zehnder reporting) -- There is no normal person, in their right mind, who would abduct a baby like missing Missouri baby Lisa Irwin, Gil Abeyta said during a phone conversation Sunday.

It takes a special person to take a human being. Abeyta has worked for 25 years helping families recover their missing children. His own 7-month-old baby was abudcted from his crib 25 years ago. Unfortunately he's never been found.

Over the years Abeyta has gained knowledge he only wishes he had when his son went missing, knowledge that might have helped them find his baby Christopher.

While yes, it's possible this could have been a complete stranger abduction, the likelihood is extremely slight. More likely it is someone known to the family.

Baby Lisa's parents, Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin, say Baby Lisa was abducted from her crib sometime between 6:40 p.m. on Oct. 3 and 4 a.m. on Oct. 4.

When looking at what type of person might have taken Baby Lisa, Abeyta suggests police, the FBI, and the community focus in on locals and not give up because they might pass lie detector tests or have possible alibis. An alibi is only as reliable as the person who provides it.
 ::snipping2::

[Desdemona]

i ran across kermits timeline,kermits has a few extra details,like clothes,and LE
confirming time JI was at work,i think kermits was b4 all the new info too
thanks kermit and desie

kermit
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12180.msg1485104#msg1485104
desie
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12352.msg1487664#msg1487664
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<respectfully snipped by Desi>

OMG, I had no idea Kermit had done a timeline for the 3rd/4th.  And it's a good one.

I did search in vain for a "Timeline" thread first, before creating one to post mine into ... Maybe Kermit's could be moved to the new Timeline thread from the one it's in now?  ("Area Maps, Videos, Youtubes & Tweets")  Just a suggestion.  Thanks, cw, for finding that!

[Titch]

i ran across kermits timeline,kermits has a few extra details,like clothes,and LE
confirming time JI was at work,i think kermits was b4 all the new info too
thanks kermit and desie

kermit
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12180.msg1485104#msg1485104
desie
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12352.msg1487664#msg1487664
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<respectfully snipped by Desi>

OMG, I had no idea Kermit had done a timeline for the 3rd/4th.  And it's a good one.

I did search in vain for a "Timeline" thread first, before creating one to post mine into ... Maybe Kermit's could be moved to the new Timeline thread from the one it's in now?  ("Area Maps, Videos, Youtubes & Tweets")  Just a suggestion.  Thanks, cw, for finding that!

Thanks for the timelines!

[Titch]

http://www.facebook.com/notes/megan-lynn-lover-wright/fb-comment-turned-into-my-public-statement-about-being-an-attention-whore/10150412118918729

FB comment, turned into my public statement about being an "attention whore"

by Megan Lynn-Lover Wright on Sunday, November 13, 2011 at 5:39pm

Thanks Tupelo. 
I wonder if anyone has told her to STHU yet?She seem to like the drama.

I totally agree. Considering there is a MISSING CHILD at stake, any normal person would just listen to the authorities so as not to JEOPARDIZE THE CASE. I think Meg was counseled. I think some kind of defense lawyer fighting to protect his client(s) would advise Meg she can do whatever she wants, even though the cops told get not to, bc maybe that defense lawyer is trying to divert the attention away from his client(s).

MEGAN WRIGHT...if you happen to read here... Honey, please think before you do all of these questions & answers. Please think before you do any interviews for ANY media outlet. Please think of how it could possibly harm justice in Lisa's disappearance. Maybe, just maybe, the police telling you not to say something is not bc they think you are a person of interest but rather they might think that by you speaking out you could be taking attention away from the true culprits. If your phone is a key part of this investigation, then by you speaking out you could unintentionally be tipping off the real suspects with every word you use. Keep in mind: THE DEFENSE'S USE OF SOCIAL MEDIA HELPED TO FREE CASEY ANTHONY.

IMO, Facebook & Twitter have done MUCH more harm than good in missing people's cases. Most of the world is on these sites.

[Titch]

Omg, I just clicked on that FB link & saw what was just posted. I'm wondering if Lesa think she's helping this case by posting that info. I mean, seriously? Ummm... What does it have to do with finding Lisa? Maybe Lesa doesn't understand that multiple sex offenders are online everywhere, and even though they're not supposed to be, THEY ARE & use different aliases to do so. They're everywhere & I mean everywhere thosesneakylittlebastards. I understand that people have the right to their own opinions but to bring up some kind of stupid agenda that has nothing to do with a missing person, especially a tiny baby, only hinders the time various people put into helping to find the victim. Again, it diverts attention.

I'm starting to wonder if certain people just don't want little Lisa found.

[Titch]

There is more than 1 Megan Wright. Does anyone know this Megan Wright's middle name bc I found a baby registry. I don't think it's this Megan, though...thought it was worth noting.