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« on: November 02, 2011, 08:26:51 PM »


Where is Lisa Irwin?
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« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2011, 10:05:36 AM »

Here's the list of locked Lisa Irwin threads:

#1  http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12149.0

#2  http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12175.0

#3  http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12176.0

#4  http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12213.0

#5  http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12236.0

#6  http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12266.0
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« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2011, 10:10:08 AM »

Various Lisa Irwin threads:

News Links  http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12191.0

Timelines  http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12352.0

Photos and Social Network links for people involved in this case  http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12179.0

Area Maps, Videos, Youtubes & Tweets  http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12180.0

Documents in the case  http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12178.0

Who's Who in the case  http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12177.0

Transcripts  http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12184.0

Police Dispatch Tapes  http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12185.0
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« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2011, 10:31:00 AM »

I keep going back to this little bit of information bc, by his own account, he said he & Samantha decided to try a trial separation the night of Lisa's disappearance. He was gone all night. This guy has said he stayed at a friend's house but I also thought I read that he stayed at his parents' house. So which is it? Please note that he PASSED a poly (according to media reports)...



http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474980729068

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The person picked out of the police lineup is reported to be the husband of Samantha Brando. Deborah Bradley is reported to have been getting drunk with Samantha Brando the night baby Lisa vanished. These are just too many connections to ignore. It's strange that the person identified carrying a baby matching Lisa's description is the husband of someone who got inebriated with the child's mother that night.

Are any of these connections just coincidences?
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« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2011, 10:38:02 AM »

Just because I LOVE this picture sooo much...Here ya go!

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« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2011, 10:44:36 AM »

This article is from last month but the comparison given is pretty interesting:



http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/national/criminal-profiler-pat-brown-compares-baby-lisa-irwin-case-to-other-child-abductions

Criminal profiler Pat Brown compares Baby Lisa Irwin case to other child abductions
Posted: 10/21/2011
Chris Hernandez, KSHB

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Brown also points to another blog post , comparing the Irwin case to a very similar one in 2007 at Fort Bragg, when Bradley was apparently living there with her first husband.

"That is very concerning, certainly she should have known about it," said Brown.

That case had an open window, with a missing screen, and an 11-month-old baby taken from its bedroom.


The blog post in reference in the snippet is this link: http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2011/10/missing-child-case-deja-vu.html
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« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2011, 10:45:09 AM »

Just because I LOVE this picture sooo much...Here ya go!



Thanks titch! 
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« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2011, 10:49:11 AM »

Anytime Muffy!
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« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2011, 10:53:50 AM »

Hmmm...



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« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2011, 11:06:56 AM »

I keep going back to this little bit of information bc, by his own account, he said he & Samantha decided to try a trial separation the night of Lisa's disappearance. He was gone all night. This guy has said he stayed at a friend's house but I also thought I read that he stayed at his parents' house. So which is it? Please note that he PASSED a poly (according to media reports)...



http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474980729068

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The person picked out of the police lineup is reported to be the husband of Samantha Brando. Deborah Bradley is reported to have been getting drunk with Samantha Brando the night baby Lisa vanished. These are just too many connections to ignore. It's strange that the person identified carrying a baby matching Lisa's description is the husband of someone who got inebriated with the child's mother that night.

Are any of these connections just coincidences?

Throw everything in to disorient an investigation in the future.
It worked...................................................for now.

This case will be solved.....
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« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2011, 11:10:43 AM »

I really hope it comes to pass that Lisa Irwin's case will be solved, pharlap
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« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2011, 11:21:11 AM »

One thing just dawned on me, we know that investigators took purple shorts in their search warrant, but what about the purple shirt with kittens on it? Somebody was spotted with a baby that was only in a diaper. If it were really Lisa, then where's the shirt? Remember that somebody found something in the woods with kittens on it, but it was said to maybe be a blanket...or no? It was said to be a light color, like white or ivory with kittens on it. Well could it have actually been a lavender shirt with kittens instead of a dark purple of sorts? Just speculating... Here's some old but useful info:

Something I noticed is that in this surveillance video, Debbie is NOT looking around at cameras trying to be seen as was previously stated in media articles. I feel stupid & should have looked at it myself instead of taking their word for it. Debra & her brother DON'T look upset at all, or even worried, like Brittany Smith did when that Walmart video caught her & the dude that she fled with after he killed her mother. Debbie, in this video & imo, doesn't look upset at all. If something had happened to Lisa before Deb went shopping, I'd think some sort of distress would show in her gait or facial appearance.

http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/baby-lisa-missing-10-days-surveillance-911-tapes-obtained-video


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http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/baby-lisa-missing-10-days-surveillance-911-tapes-obtained

Baby Lisa missing 10 days – surveillance, 911 tapes obtained
Isabelle Zehnder, Missing Persons Examiner
October 13, 2011

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ABC News reports Thursday that Debbi was seen leaving the store with a young man smiling.

A family spokesperson said the young man is Debbi’s brother.

A Festival Foods store clerk said during an ABC News interview, “They seem very nice, always happy-go-lucky. Every time I asked about the kids they would always pop up with ‘Oh, yeah, they’re doing great, they’re doing good’.”

News Consultant and former FBI Special Agent Brad Garrett said, “She doesn’t look depressed. She seems to be walking with a normal gait.”

If anything, ABC News said, it exonerates her from the standpoint that she’s being normal and acting normal.


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The police dispatcher said: “He noticed his screen is busted and his 10-month-old daughter is missing. He advised that he didn’t witness anything and don’t know how long she’s been gone.”

The call was made 10 days ago and since then there have been few solid leads in the case. Police have scoured wooded areas and fields close to the family’s home. They search for baby Lisa has included hundreds of officers, some rappelling down steep embankments, searching from the air, water, and land. They’ve brought in search dog teams and have searched on ATVs, horseback, and on foot. They’ve gone door-to-door around the neighborhood multiple times. And yet they still have no solid lead as to where Lisa is or what happened the night she went missing.

ABC’s Abbie Bourdeau said the family home sits empty and Lisa’s family said they will never move back home.


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Lisa is described as a 30-inch tall, blonde hair, blue eyed baby girl with two front teeth who isn’t yet walking. She was last seen wearing purple shorts and a purple shirt with kittens on it. She has a beauty mark on her right outer thigh.

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« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2011, 11:23:33 AM »

I really hope it comes to pass that Lisa Irwin's case will be solved, pharlap

Me too.

Ya know, this case is sort of like Kyron's case. I know this is just my opinion & it might not matter much, but every single time I try to play devil's advocate to search other routes or prospects, the road always leads back to Debra no matter how many forks are in the road.
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« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2011, 11:25:08 AM »

Pharlap, you are sooo right honey...
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« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2011, 11:34:45 AM »

Interesting I didn;t read much on this:

http://www.kctv5.com/story/16012022/interviews-with-brothers

Baby Lisa's half brothers interviewed about missing sister
Posted: Nov 10, 2011 5:36 PM EST
Updated: Nov 11, 2011 1:12 PM EST
By DeAnn Smith, Digital Content Manager
By Jeanene Kiesling, Reporter

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The boys, ages five and 8 years old, were first interviewed in the hours after their sister went missing. The younger boy was interviewed for 30 minutes while the older boy was interviewed for 50 minutes, police have said.

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Police had then sought a second interview with the boys after investigators had gathered more information. They also sought their DNA to compare it to DNA in the home.

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Bill Stanton, a New York private detective who is serving as a spokesman for baby Lisa's parents, said Thursday night that Bradley and Irwin continue to cooperate with investigators. He said the interviews with the two boys occurred voluntarily.

He said he does not believe the boys will offer any critical information that could break the case open, but said the interviews could only help the case. He said one of the boys heard a "tapping" noise during the hours in question.

Bradley says the two boys fell asleep with her but Irwin's son went to his bed during the night. The older boy was in his bed when Irwin came home, he has said. The younger boy was with his mother who has said she drank five to 10 glasses of wine and passed out after 10:30 p.m. Oct. 3.

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« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2011, 11:44:16 AM »

WAIT A MINUTE!

Does Lisa have reddish hair?

Debra has blonde hair & Jeremy has dark brown hair.

I'd like to know if it's a proven fact that Jeremy is the bio daddy...
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« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2011, 11:55:25 AM »

It was said that a sighting of Lisa was approximately 3 houses away from her home. Who was the person / neighbor that made that call? Here's a neighbor search of 3620 N Lister, Kansas City, MO:

http://www.411.com/search/FindNeighbors?street=3620+N+Lister&where=Kansas+City%2C+MO
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« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2011, 11:56:00 AM »

Sorry for not being up to speed on this case, but are the boys both back at the home with DB and JI?   TIA
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« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2011, 12:01:39 PM »

Sorry for not being up to speed on this case, but are the boys both back at the home with DB and JI?   TIA

No idea. I hope not...
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