Lisa Irwin #7 11/17/11 -

[tupelohoney]

http://twitter.com/#!/jimspellmancnn

jimspellmancnn jim spellman
interesting #babylisa stuff happening on FB right now. Lisa's uncle Johnny is updating facebook.com/LisaIrwinUpdat…
34 minutes ago

The fb link is no good.  Drat

Here is the link,but now all of the uncle's posts are gone.
http://www.facebook.com/LisaIrwinUpdates?sk=wall&filter=1

Thanks Trimm.  I was just reading that he hides his posts, brings them back, etc.  Why do that?

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=309369075742125&set=o.184983831580094&type=1&theater

What he deleted, but someone got a screen shot

Johnny Chiaravallotti
Call the cops on me weirdos ... tell them what I posted on FB. I spent hours with them. You are the last to know. 816 234 5000. Time to make love to my beautiful fiancee'....
Like ·  · about a minute ago ·

https://www.facebook.com/LisaIrwinUpdates?sk=wall&filter=1

[trimmonthelake]

http://twitter.com/#!/jimspellmancnn

jimspellmancnn jim spellman
interesting #babylisa stuff happening on FB right now. Lisa's uncle Johnny is updating facebook.com/LisaIrwinUpdat…
34 minutes ago

The fb link is no good.  Drat

Here is the link,but now all of the uncle's posts are gone.
http://www.facebook.com/LisaIrwinUpdates?sk=wall&filter=1

Thanks Trimm.  I was just reading that he hides his posts, brings them back, etc.  Why do that?

I don't know. 
I will look again later,my connection keeps cutting out.

[tupelohoney]

Tupelo,this is some of the stuff I saw posted on Facebook.I should have got a screenshot  instead of trying to read it all.Found it over at JusticeQuest.
http://96.126.114.52/~toby/forums/showthread.php?t=59500&page=34
Johnny Chiaravallotti
My sister LISA passed away in 2001 at just 36 years old. LISA was 10 mos. younger than me. LISA was Debbie's mother and they were very close. LISA would've been Baby Lisa's Grandmother. Debbie named LISA after her mother , my sister Lisa. Now We are without both Lisa's ....

Johnny Chiaravallotti Michael contacted Stanton on Twitter. Stanton has nothing to do with Tacopina. Nobody paid for Tacopina.he came aboard for free. For publicity. They stymied Debbie. Lisa lays out there somewhere. We think the Missouri River. She was weighed down and will never be found. I am not alone with these thoughts. I have talked to Debbie several times. I know Debbie. She couldnt look me in the eye.

Johnny Chiaravallotti Debbie doesnt drive and was drunk. She called several people for help after the accident. I know who she called but didnt help. And so do the Police. The sightings and calls were about disposal.

Johnny Chiaravallotti We dont know for sure who helped. But we know who refused to help and told her to call the Police. The family is not really divided. We know but dont know who helped in the end. This is where the dopers come in. Family was contacted first.

This case is just as bizzarre as Caylee's.  It sickens me that people are this way when there is a missing child....or anyone.

[cw618]

well wow,the latest post by

Johnny Chiaravallotti
 Call the cops on me weirdos ... tell them what I posted on FB. I spent hours with them. You are the last to know. 816 234 5000. Time to make love to my beautiful fiancee'....
Like · Comment · 12 minutes ago
http://www.facebook.com/LisaIrwinUpdates?sk=wall&filter=1

[cw618]

i think these are sreen shots of what JC said,i tried to read these, the old bifocal eyes couldnt do it

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=o.184983831580094&type=1#!/photo.php?fbid=309406425738390&set=o.184983831580094&type=1&theater

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=o.184983831580094&type=1#!/photo.php?fbid=2665656360980&set=o.184983831580094&type=1&theater

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=o.184983831580094&type=1#!/photo.php?fbid=2665598719539&set=o.184983831580094&type=1&theater

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=o.184983831580094&type=1#!/photo.php?fbid=309369075742125&set=o.184983831580094&type=1&theater

album
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=o.184983831580094&type=1

[cw618]

TY,brandi

who ever runs the pg here just deleted a whole bunch of posts
dont they know someone prob has a copy,and its virile now
http://www.facebook.com/LisaIrwinUpdates?sk=wall

[seahorse]

Tupelo,this is some of the stuff I saw posted on Facebook.I should have got a screenshot  instead of trying to read it all.Found it over at JusticeQuest.
http://96.126.114.52/~toby/forums/showthread.php?t=59500&page=34
Johnny Chiaravallotti
My sister LISA passed away in 2001 at just 36 years old. LISA was 10 mos. younger than me. LISA was Debbie's mother and they were very close. LISA would've been Baby Lisa's Grandmother. Debbie named LISA after her mother , my sister Lisa. Now We are without both Lisa's ....

Johnny Chiaravallotti Michael contacted Stanton on Twitter. Stanton has nothing to do with Tacopina. Nobody paid for Tacopina.he came aboard for free. For publicity. They stymied Debbie. Lisa lays out there somewhere. We think the Missouri River. She was weighed down and will never be found. I am not alone with these thoughts. I have talked to Debbie several times. I know Debbie. She couldnt look me in the eye.

Johnny Chiaravallotti Debbie doesnt drive and was drunk. She called several people for help after the accident. I know who she called but didnt help. And so do the Police. The sightings and calls were about disposal.

Johnny Chiaravallotti We dont know for sure who helped. But we know who refused to help and told her to call the Police. The family is not really divided. We know but dont know who helped in the end. This is where the dopers come in. Family was contacted first.

This case is just as bizzarre as Caylee's.  It sickens me that people are this way when there is a missing child....or anyone.

Wow!  Why is JI in on this mess?    I am stumped.   I think the Uncle, knows more...IMO

[yuknomenot]

Most likely a stupid question and 1 to which I should know the answer, why is he using the name Chiaravallotti instead of Chivalette?

[cw618]

TY,MB
 

[MuffyBee]

TY,MB
 

YW CW 

[grace-land]

http://www.kansascity.com/2011/11/22/3281893/kc-police-disband-baby-lisa-command.html

Posted on Tue, Nov. 22, 2011 11:13 PM
Kansas City police disband command post in Lisa Irwin case
By CHRISTINE VENDEL
The Kansas City Star

Kansas City police have shut down the command post where investigators had been working exclusively on the Lisa Irwin case.

Detectives and FBI agents who had been working as a task force out of a room at Kansas City’s police training academy now are back in their usual offices, police said Tuesday. Police said the move reflected a necessary shift in resources as leads in the case have slowed and other crime cases have piled up.

 ::snipping2::

Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2011/11/22/3281893/kc-police-disband-baby-lisa-command.html#ixzz1eVcJ4Qfp

[pharlap]

Tupelo,this is some of the stuff I saw posted on Facebook.I should have got a screenshot  instead of trying to read it all.Found it over at JusticeQuest.
http://96.126.114.52/~toby/forums/showthread.php?t=59500&page=34
Johnny Chiaravallotti
My sister LISA passed away in 2001 at just 36 years old. LISA was 10 mos. younger than me. LISA was Debbie's mother and they were very close. LISA would've been Baby Lisa's Grandmother. Debbie named LISA after her mother , my sister Lisa. Now We are without both Lisa's ....

Johnny Chiaravallotti Michael contacted Stanton on Twitter. Stanton has nothing to do with Tacopina. Nobody paid for Tacopina.he came aboard for free. For publicity. They stymied Debbie. Lisa lays out there somewhere. We think the Missouri River. She was weighed down and will never be found. I am not alone with these thoughts. I have talked to Debbie several times. I know Debbie. She couldnt look me in the eye.

Johnny Chiaravallotti Debbie doesnt drive and was drunk. She called several people for help after the accident. I know who she called but didnt help. And so do the Police. The sightings and calls were about disposal.

Johnny Chiaravallotti We dont know for sure who helped. But we know who refused to help and told her to call the Police. The family is not really divided. We know but dont know who helped in the end. This is where the dopers come in. Family was contacted first.

This case is just as bizzarre as Caylee's.  It sickens me that people are this way when there is a missing child....or anyone.

Tks!!!.............................

[Titch]

http://twitter.com/#!/jimspellmancnn

jimspellmancnn jim spellman
interesting #babylisa stuff happening on FB right now. Lisa's uncle Johnny is updating facebook.com/LisaIrwinUpdat…
34 minutes ago

The fb link is no good.  Drat

Here is the link,but now all of the uncle's posts are gone.
http://www.facebook.com/LisaIrwinUpdates?sk=wall&filter=1

Thanks Trimm.  I was just reading that he hides his posts, brings them back, etc.  Why do that?

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=309369075742125&set=o.184983831580094&type=1&theater

What he deleted, but someone got a screen shot

Johnny Chiaravallotti
Call the cops on me weirdos ... tell them what I posted on FB. I spent hours with them. You are the last to know. 816 234 5000. Time to make love to my beautiful fiancee'....
Like ·  · about a minute ago ·

https://www.facebook.com/LisaIrwinUpdates?sk=wall&filter=1

Deep breath deep breath deep breath... Ok here goes...

I think Deb was cheating.

I think Deb has an alcohol problem.

I think Deb may dabble in narcotics.

I think Deb knows what happened to Lisa.

I think Deb knows where Lisa is.

I think Lisa is deceased.

I think Jeremy is in the dark with all of this.

I think he believe's in Deb.

I think it's why Jeremy won't allow himself to be interviewed alone, bc he's believing too much in Deb.

I think Deb will keep her mouth shut & never talk, forever playing the victim.

All is jmo and "think" DOESN'T mean "know".

LISA IS THE VICTIM, EVERYONE ELSE IS SECONDARY BY ASSOCIATION. This I know.

[Titch]

Most likely a stupid question and 1 to which I should know the answer, why is he using the name Chiaravallotti instead of Chivalette?

I'm not sure in John's case, unless they're 2 different people ... but in my family some of our history goes way back, on THE boat.

After moving from Sicily or Italy many years ago, over time but sometimes right away, Ellis Island held names of our original immigrants. Some in my family came over as Toleriancino but it was changed to Tolerico, another is Luccianno which was changed to Luciano, yet another is Mastigliano which was changed to Mastiglione. A friend of mine had the last name of Pietro but his family converted their surname to just Pietro.

I have no idea truthfully but I think it stems back to either Italian discrimination in America or maybe they were trying to hide their "real" surnames from the mafia so as to not take a percentage of their money. Before you ask, YES, alot of what was on the Sopranos was real...still is.

[Titch]

Most likely a stupid question and 1 to which I should know the answer, why is he using the name Chiaravallotti instead of Chivalette?

I'm not sure in John's case, unless they're 2 different people ... but in my family some of our history goes way back, on THE boat.

After moving from Sicily or Italy many years ago, over time but sometimes right away, Ellis Island held names of our original immigrants. Some in my family came over as Toleriancino but it was changed to Tolerico, another is Luccianno which was changed to Luciano, yet another is Mastigliano which was changed to Mastiglione. A friend of mine had the last name of DiPietro but his family converted their surname to just Pietro.

I have no idea truthfully but I think it stems back to either Italian discrimination in America or maybe they were trying to hide their "real" surnames from the mafia so as to not take a percentage of their money. Before you ask, YES, alot of what was on the Sopranos was real...still is.

Sorry, self edit.

[Titch]

well wow,the latest post by

Johnny Chiaravallotti
 Call the cops on me weirdos ... tell them what I posted on FB. I spent hours with them. You are the last to know. 816 234 5000. Time to make love to my beautiful fiancee'....
Like · Comment · 12 minutes ago
http://www.facebook.com/LisaIrwinUpdates?sk=wall&filter=1

I just clicked on that link & the people posting comments are saying that wasn't really him? I guess one of the people is an admin or owner of the page & said it's somebody playing games or something? Did you read this stuff today? I'm on there now. How sad if that's the case. People shouldn;t be playing games. There's a missing baby for crying out loud.

So, was it or wasn't it Johnny? Is it a fact or not? How can we find out?

[Curly]

I'm changing my settings to not fix my words. This is ridiculous. This phone gets on my nerves, it goes right behind my typing!

Titch...You crack me up with those iPhone typos.
I've started using a stylus on mine and iPad and it helps.

This case is so convoluted it gives me a headache.
Today I'm leaning towards Deborah gave Lisa away.

[Titch]

I'm changing my settings to not fix my words. This is ridiculous. This phone gets on my nerves, it goes right behind my typing!

Titch...You crack me up with those iPhone typos.
I've started using a stylus on mine and iPad and it helps.

This case is so convoluted it gives me a headache.
Today I'm leaning towards Deborah gave Lisa away.

OMG that's exactly what I'm going to do! I just tried to text my husband with my son's DSi stylus & it worked! I need to go buy one meant for an Apple. Thanks so much!

I swear I truly HOPE Debbie gave Lisa away.

[cartfly]

This is a really long article. I don't recall seeing it before but it is a MUST read (apologies if someone already posted this):


From ‘mother hen’ to media villain: The life of baby Lisa Irwin's mom
Family members provide insights
By LEE HILL KAVANAUGH
The Kansas City Star
November 5, 2011

http://www.kansascity.com/2011/11/05/3250061/from-mother-hen-to-media-villain.html

[yuknomenot]

Most likely a stupid question and 1 to which I should know the answer, why is he using the name Chiaravallotti instead of Chivalette?

I'm not sure in John's case, unless they're 2 different people ... but in my family some of our history goes way back, on THE boat.

After moving from Sicily or Italy many years ago, over time but sometimes right away, Ellis Island held names of our original immigrants. Some in my family came over as Toleriancino but it was changed to Tolerico, another is Luccianno which was changed to Luciano, yet another is Mastigliano which was changed to Mastiglione. A friend of mine had the last name of DiPietro but his family converted their surname to just Pietro.

I have no idea truthfully but I think it stems back to either Italian discrimination in America or maybe they were trying to hide their "real" surnames from the mafia so as to not take a percentage of their money. Before you ask, YES, alot of what was on the Sopranos was real...still is.

Sorry, self edit.

Family histories are always fascinating, thanks for sharing your's!  A while back I had mentioned a name change in my family (due to a falling out) in relation to the similarities of names in this case.. Chivalette, LeRette, Leverette (from here http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12178.msg1486947#msg1486947) and now this Chiaravallotti (fake?).  Change a couple letters and they all could be related