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« Reply #120 on: November 11, 2011, 06:54:24 AM »

   Who knew what about Jerry Sandusky?
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/who_knew_what_about_jerry_sand.html
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« Reply #121 on: November 11, 2011, 08:02:10 AM »

Excellent article.
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« Reply #122 on: November 11, 2011, 08:25:44 AM »

Mike McQueary was afraid to top Sandusky from sexually assaulting a young boy in the showers on campus but broke up a knife fight between students in the dining hall.  That tells me exactly what his fear was, and it wasn't physical retaliation.  He was afraid for his job and his master's degree imo.

http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/sports_nut/2011/11/mike_mcqueary_he_says_that_he_saw_jerry_sandusky_sexually_assault_a_child_why_does_he_still_have_a_job_at_penn_state_.html
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On March 1, 2002, Mike McQueary allegedly walked into the Penn State locker room and saw Jerry Sandusky raping a young boy. According to the grand jury report in the Sandusky case, McQueary—then a 28-year-old graduate assistant for the Nittany Lions football team—“left immediately, distraught.” McQueary then called his father, who advised him to tell coach Joe Paterno what he’d seen.
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http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/who_knew_what_about_jerry_sand.html
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McQueary is a guy who once stepped in and broke up a player-related knife fight in a campus dining hall — a fight police admit could have been very ugly. But this week, he is getting blasted by the public for doing too little.
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« Reply #123 on: November 11, 2011, 08:29:52 AM »


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« Reply #124 on: November 11, 2011, 08:39:06 AM »

I'm sorry if my reply to you about the age of Mike McQueary came off badly, KittyMom.  I didn't see the previous post, and after I read mine, it sounded snarky.   
Oh, that's ok.  I let my emotions get the best of me with this case.  A few years ago we had an incident locally with a high school.  As my husband and I support the local children's advocacy center, we were aware of things that others weren't.  Long story short, the kid was promised a scholarship to keep his mouth shut.  It didn't involve a coach, just his wife. <insert eyeroll>  But still.  Things like this really upset me.  Adults shouldn't take advantage of children.  The rape doesn't stop with the act, the kids then get abused again by the people who should be protecting them, imo.
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« Reply #125 on: November 11, 2011, 08:43:40 AM »

Curated Selection Of Jerry Sandusky’s Writings From The Annual Reports/b]

" The questions about what exactly The Second Mile knew about Sandusky's behavior and why people there didn't act on that knowledge sooner will, hopefully, be answered as the charity gets the bejeezus subpoenaed out of it."
http://deadspin.com/5858461/a-curated-selection-of-jerry-sanduskys-writings-from-the-annual-reports-of-his-youth-charity
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« Reply #126 on: November 11, 2011, 09:04:18 AM »

I'm sorry if my reply to you about the age of Mike McQueary came off badly, KittyMom.  I didn't see the previous post, and after I read mine, it sounded snarky.   
Oh, that's ok.  I let my emotions get the best of me with this case.  A few years ago we had an incident locally with a high school.  As my husband and I support the local children's advocacy center, we were aware of things that others weren't.  Long story short, the kid was promised a scholarship to keep his mouth shut.  It didn't involve a coach, just his wife. <insert eyeroll>  But still.  Things like this really upset me.  Adults shouldn't take advantage of children.  The rape doesn't stop with the act, the kids then get abused again by the people who should be protecting them, imo.

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I absolutely agree with you KittyMom.  And I thank you and your husband for supporting your local children's advocacy center. 
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« Reply #127 on: November 11, 2011, 09:05:28 AM »

Curated Selection Of Jerry Sandusky’s Writings From The Annual Reports/b]

" The questions about what exactly The Second Mile knew about Sandusky's behavior and why people there didn't act on that knowledge sooner will, hopefully, be answered as the charity gets the bejeezus subpoenaed out of it."
http://deadspin.com/5858461/a-curated-selection-of-jerry-sanduskys-writings-from-the-annual-reports-of-his-youth-charity

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« Reply #128 on: November 11, 2011, 09:18:11 AM »

uSA today has a good piece on the victim that first reported the abuse.  Im on an ipad and dont know how to post from this thing.  Can someone else do it please?.
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« Reply #129 on: November 11, 2011, 09:26:10 AM »

"Victim 1" triggered investigation 

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/bigten/story/2011-11-10/jerry-sandusky-investigation-victim-1-cover/51160950/1
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« Reply #130 on: November 11, 2011, 10:19:35 AM »

  Jerry Sandusky could face Texas charges related to bringing a boy to 1999 Alamo Bowl
 

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« Reply #131 on: November 11, 2011, 10:21:23 AM »

http://www.chron.com/news/local_news/article/Penn-State-ex-coach-could-face-S-A-molestation-2263075.php
Penn State sex scandal reaches S.A.
November 10, 2011

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District Attorney Susan Reed and San Antonio Police Chief William McManus have discussed the possibility of building a criminal case against Sandusky stemming from his visit to San Antonio with the Penn State team in 1999 for the Alamo Bowl, authorities confirmed Thursday.

“We are investigating the possibility that an offense may have happened while here in San Antonio,” Sgt. Chris Benavides, a spokesman for the Police Department, said in a one-sentence statement.


Like the general public, San Antonio authorities learned of the allegations through the 23-page indictment issued against Sandusky by a Pennsylvania grand jury.

In it, a person referred to as “Victim 4,” now 27, said he met Sandusky when he was 13 or 14 through a nonprofit organization the coach started for at-risk youths. He was touched inappropriately on numerous occasions on the Penn State campus and in hotel rooms in that state, the indictment alleges. But he also traveled with the team to away games, even appearing once next to Sandusky in a Sports Illustrated photo.

“Victim 4 was listed, along with Sandusky's wife, as a member of Sandusky's family party for the 1998 Outback Bowl and the 1999 Alamo Bowl,” the indictment states. “... Sandusky did threaten to send him home from the Alamo Bowl in Texas when Victim 4 resisted his advances.”

That game, Sandusky's last before retirement, ended with his players carrying him off the field following a victory over Texas A&M, the San Antonio Express-News reported at the time.

After his retirement, Sandusky took on emeritus status at the university and retained an office on campus. In 2002, head football coach Joe Paterno was told by a graduate assistant coach that Sandusky was seen naked in the showers having sex with what appeared to be a 10-year-old boy, the grand jury report states.

Paterno, who was fired Wednesday after a storied career, told the university's athletic director about that allegation at the time but the incident never was reported to police, the grand jury determined.

There is no statute of limitations in Texas for sexual assault of a child, First Assistant District Attorney Cliff Herberg said Thursday.

The main issue likely will be seeing if there still is enough evidence to bring a charge after more than a decade has passed, he said.

“We've still got to at least conduct the investigation and see what kind of evidence we've got,” Herberg said, adding that it will be up to the Police Department to determine whether local charges should be filed. “We know the same thing that everybody else knows. This is really in the nature of a preliminary inquiry.”

Herberg said Reed and McManus discussed the matter Tuesday.
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« Reply #132 on: November 11, 2011, 10:26:04 AM »

And the Alamo bowl trip happened after the 98 investigation. Are we supposed to believe that no one on the entire trip noticed it wrong that sicko was traveling with yet another child?
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« Reply #133 on: November 11, 2011, 10:32:56 AM »

And the Alamo bowl trip happened after the 98 investigation. Are we supposed to believe that no one on the entire trip noticed it wrong that sicko was traveling with yet another child?

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« Reply #134 on: November 11, 2011, 11:53:32 AM »

And the Alamo bowl trip happened after the 98 investigation. Are we supposed to believe that no one on the entire trip noticed it wrong that sicko was traveling with yet another child?

Exactly. 


Not necessarily.  By the end of 1999, the case had been dropped; any rumors would have been subdued because there was no prosecution.  Additionally, his wife was on the Alamo trip.

The Grand Jury report sketches a methodical, slick person—who had developed a successful pattern.
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« Reply #135 on: November 11, 2011, 12:12:57 PM »

RUMOR? Mark Madden Says, Former Penn St Coach Jerry Sandusky ‘Pimping Out Young Boys to Rich Donors
Posted November 11, 2011 by Scared Monkeys

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2011/11/11/rumor-mark-madden-says-former-penn-st-coach-jerry-sandusky-pimping-out-young-boys-to-rich-donors/
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« Reply #136 on: November 11, 2011, 12:15:26 PM »

The code of silence has not been about protecting the integrity of the University. The integrity of the University would be intact today if the “powers that be” within the University had held Jerry Sandusky accountable at the getgo.

The entire story has yet to be revealed. IMO

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A Patriot-News Special Report: Who knew what about Jerry Sandusky?
Published: Friday, November 11, 2011, 12:19 AM
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McQueary is a guy who once stepped in and broke up a player-related knife fight in a campus dining hall — a fight police admit could have been very ugly. But this week, he is getting blasted by the public for doing too little.

That same public sentiment led to an abrupt exit for legendary coach Paterno and Spanier.

But if gossip, rumor and speculation have been rampant this week about Spanier, Paterno and McQueary, the facts are more complicated — and much more disturbing.

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http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/who_knew_what_about_jerry_sand.html

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« Reply #137 on: November 11, 2011, 12:18:51 PM »

http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/Penn-State-top-recurit-will-not-attend-school-111011/?ocid=ansfox11
Report: Top recruit will not attend PSU
November 11, 2011

 
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A standout high school offensive lineman from Colorado has turned his back on his verbal commitment to attend Penn State, becoming the first recruit the school has lost because of the ongoing sex scandal that has rocked the university to its core, the Coloradoan reported.
Joey O'Connor, a 6-foot-5, 297-pound senior, told the newspaper Thursday that he had de-committed so he could focus on the rest of his high school season with Windsor High.

"It's been a real struggle, just getting all this thrown in my face just before the playoffs," he said. "The only time I can get away from it is at football practice. I only forget about it when I step on that field."

He said other coaches had already been in touch and that he was now considering a range of schools, including South Carolina, Arizona, Arizona State, the University of Colorado, Colorado State University, California, UCLA and Washington State.

Surprisingly, O'Connor told the Coloradoan he would also still consider recommitting to Penn State.

"I'm not saying that I've completely ruled [Penn State] out, but I don't know what's going to happen there in the next couple months," he said. "The waiting and not knowing what's going to happen has been the biggest factor [in the decision]."

O'Connor is one of the country's best high school offensive tackles and was considered the Nittany Lions top recruit.
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« Reply #138 on: November 11, 2011, 12:37:03 PM »

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/stewart_mandel/11/11/penn-state-joe-paterno-culture/?xid=cnnbin
Penn State tragedy shows danger of making coaches false idols
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« Reply #139 on: November 11, 2011, 01:17:29 PM »

It looks to me like Franco Harris has his football blinders on.  JMHO

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/16076958/franco-harris-defends-paterno-mcqueary-blasts-trustees
Franco Harris defends Paterno, McQueary, blasts trustees
November 11, 2011

Former Pittsburgh Steelers running back and Penn State alum Franco Harris blasted the school's Board of Trustees for its decision to fire Joe Paterno and defended Mike McQueary, according to the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review.

"I feel that the board made a bad decision in letting Joe Paterno go," Harris told the Tribune-Review's Kevin Gorman. "I'm very disappointed in their decision. I thought they showed no courage, not to back someone who really needed it at the time. They were saying the football program under Joe was at fault.

"They really wouldn't give a reason. They're linking the football program to the scandal and, possibly, the cover-up. That's very disturbing to me. I think there should be no more connection to the football program, only in the case that it happened at the football building with an ex-coach. I'm still trying to find out who gave him access to the building, who signed that contract."

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Harris also criticized state police commissioner Frank Noonan for saying Paterno had a "moral obligation" to contact police when told of the incident, according to the report.

"When I heard that, it blew my mind," Harris said. "Why would they bring the moral into the legal? Now, everyone gets to interpret in their own way. That's what really bothers me: Joe did what was right for him to do. He forwarded the information to his superiors. That's the legal procedure at Penn State.  
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"If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands-down, no contest every time."

Harris also told the paper he was "bothered" by criticism of the handling of the situation by McQueary, who witnessed a boy he estimated to being 10 years old getting violated by Sandusky anally in the showers. McQueary, according to grand jury testimony, left the showers distraught, then went to his office and called his father, who told him to go home. The next day, the pair reported the incident to Paterno.

"People make fun of the fact that Mike went to his father, like a little kid," Harris said. "Because somebody went to a confidant, why is that childish? How Mike handled that situation, there is nothing I can comment on. People are different. Some people would have bashed [Sandusky's] head in. Mike followed procedure. Because some people higher up didn't do their job, he's suffering the consequences."
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