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« Reply #1320 on: June 12, 2012, 02:45:46 PM »

I can feel myself getting po'd with Dottie all over again.  That woman knew what was happening in her basement.  She knew and she did nothing to protect those kids.  Sick. imo
I think she knew also I'm actually getting  sick my stomach
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« Reply #1321 on: June 12, 2012, 02:48:18 PM »

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State prosecutors in #Sandusky trial say they have more proof Gary Shultz lied to the grand jury  http://bit.ly/NvQTlW

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Jerry Sandusky case: State says it has evidence that PSU official lied
By JEFF FRANTZ, The Patriot-News
Published: Tuesday, June 12, 2012, 12:34 PM     Updated: Tuesday, June 12, 2012, 2:15 PM

Prosecutors say they have more proof that Gary Schultz lied to the grand jury investigating allegations of child sex abuse against Jerry Sandusky.
In a filing late Monday, the attorney general’s office said the former Penn State vice president, “created, maintained and possessed” a file on the university’s investigation into Sandusky.
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Despite the fact that the prosecutors long ago subpoenaed Penn State for any evidence the university possessed “relating to Sandusky, his employment with PSU and any investigation of his criminal conduct,” the attorney general said it was only recently given Schultz’s file.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/96845093/Comm-Reply-to-Schultz-Motion-to-Quash-6-11-2012
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« Reply #1322 on: June 12, 2012, 02:50:27 PM »

Dottie Sandusky =    JMHO
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« Reply #1323 on: June 12, 2012, 02:55:32 PM »

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2012/06/more_evidence_schultz_lied_abo.html
Jerry Sandusky case: State says it has evidence that PSU official lied
By JEFF FRANTZ, The Patriot-News
Published: Tuesday, June 12, 2012, 12:34 PM     Updated: Tuesday, June 12, 2012, 2:15 PM


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ShutOut1942 June 12, 2012 at 1:09PM
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Looks like the fit is about to hit the shan....

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This is certainly evidence of a cover-up at the highest level at Penn State. It will cost the university many millions of dollars for putting the reputation of the university ahead of those poor children. 'Don't worry about the children, we need to cover our own butts!' Just brilliant....!!!! Spanier, Schultz, and Curley deserve everything they have coming to them for covering this up. WE ARE.....PENN STATE! You guys make me sick!

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ras949 June 12, 2012 at 2:15PM
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I love how you group all Penn Staters in with 4 people. 4 people made and allowed this to happen, not a university. We don't elect university Presidents, VP's, and so on so don't group everyone in with these guys, please. Thank you.

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Hey, where's Mary?
We had Schultz with his file, Spanier and his 'humane' intentions, and Bradley standing by so nothing happened to a kid showering with Uncle Jerry (per testimony yesterday).
Please try again to tell me Paterno knew nothing at all about any of this, and did everything he could or should have done.
Time to face facts: PSU put itself ahead of the welfare of boys in our community.

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lchs95 June 12, 2012 at 2:24PM
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PSU did not but a few individuals who worked there did, and they're gone now.

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healey67 June 12, 2012 at 1:21PM
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Your telling us that the higher ups in the administration at Penn State failed to provide full and timely disclosure relevant to Sandusky and his sexual abuse of children? Now there is a surprise .That Spanier ,Curley and Schultz withheld incriminating information and it took Louis Freeh and his staff to uncover it? This cannot be true. These men are the pillars of Penn State. The major domos .
They protected a serial child rapist rather than his innocent helpless victim,The courts can not punish Sandusky enough for what he did. And I am not comparing the crimes of ommission of the three administators to Sandusky. But they need to be vilified for the coverup and held accountable. Sandusky has ruined a lot of lives.

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Now I'm curious to find out if they stopped at 2001 or if they went all the way back to 1998 and got Those emails. Shultz admitted he knew about 1998 and what kind of a president does NOT know about a heinous accusation regarding your star defensive coordinator. That investigation spanned 6 weeks, 100 pages of documents and included CYS and the Dept of Health as well as the State College AND University Park Police Depts. NO WAY Spanier was not aware of what was happening right under his nose. In his own school. NO WAY.

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Sadly the Uncle Jerry the Serial Child rapist scandal likely goes back long before email existed...the creep has been on campus since the JFK Administration.

I doubt if he just started raping in the nineties or even when his supply Jerry with a child organization, the Second Mile, began.

Jerry just got brazen because he was in an atmosphere that placed him and the Penn State Program above all laws and all morals and all children.


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Looks to me like they were taking cues from the Catholic church! If they can do it and just keep covering things up, I guess they figured why couldn't they!

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WOW PENN STATE YOU REALLY MESSED UP BIG TIME. SMH
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« Reply #1324 on: June 12, 2012, 03:00:21 PM »

http://www.chron.com/news/article/Assistant-McQueary-takes-stand-in-Sandusky-case-3626429.php
Assistant McQueary takes stand in Sandusky case
June 12, 2012

BELLEFONTE, Pa. (AP) — Former Penn State assistant coach Mike McQueary told jurors in Jerry Sandusky's sex abuse trial Tuesday that he saw his ex-colleague with a prepubescent boy in an on-campus shower and that he that he heard "skin-on-skin smacking sound."

His account of the night differed little from his appearance in December at a preliminary hearing for Penn State administrators Tim Curley and Gary Schultz. The one difference: He said the shower encounter took place in 2001 instead of 2002.

But effect of what he saw, and heard, was unchanged, he said, responding to questions from Senior Deputy Attorney General Joseph McGettigan.

Sandusky is on trial on 52 criminal counts related to the alleged assaults of 10 boys during a 15-year period. Authorities alleged Sandusky abused boys at his home and inside the football team's on-campus facilities among other places.

McQueary told the jury that he was at home, in bed, watching the film "Rudy," when he decided to go to the football team building. He said he walked into the support staff locker room to put away a pair of new sneakers and, as he opened the door, he heard the noise.

"Very much skin-on-skin smacking sound," he said. "I immediately became alert and was kind of embarrassed that I was walking in on something."

He said that he turned and glanced over his right shoulder at a mirror that had a 45-dgree angle and saw Sandusky "standing behind a boy who was propped up against a wall." He estimated the boy to be 10 to 12 years old.

He said that the "boy's hands (were) up on the wall. The glance would have taken only one or two seconds. I immediately turned back to my locker to make sure I saw what I saw."

Then he put his shoes in the locker and slammed it shut, hard.

"I made the loud noise in an attempt to say 'Someone's here! Break it up!'" McQueary said.

When asked what he saw, McQueary said "the defendant's midsection was moving" subtly.

He said he then went upstairs to his office.

"It was more than my brain could handle," he said. "I was making decisions on the fly. I picked up the phone and called my father to get advice from the person I trusted most in my life, because I just saw something ridiculous."

He said he was very vague with his father on the phone, and that his dad, John, told him to leave immediately and come to the house.
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« Reply #1325 on: June 12, 2012, 03:06:49 PM »

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2012/06/jerry_sandusky_trial_video_rec.html
Jerry Sandusky trial: Video recap of morning's proceedings
By CHRISTINE BAKER, The Patriot-News
Published: Tuesday, June 12, 2012, 1:04 PM     Updated: Tuesday, June 12, 2012, 1:16 PM

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Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Wouldn't you say that the reason Victim 4's testimony was more "transactional" (hate that word, it connotes prostitution) is that he's older/more mature and has had time to make peace with it? Victim 1 has been at the center of this maelstrom and, at 18, might not have the emotional maturity to sort through it all.
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« Reply #1326 on: June 12, 2012, 03:07:34 PM »

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Break in McQueary's testimony #Sandusky til 3:15pm.
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« Reply #1327 on: June 12, 2012, 03:13:35 PM »

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After showing photos of locker room shower, #Sandusky atty Rominger begins cross examination. Begins asking about previous versions of story

4m Jim Hamill Jim Hamill ‏@JimHamill
McQueary spoke directly to jurors, said he was flustered, shocked, all those things. Looked #Sandusky & boy in the eyes. Boy 10 -12 yrs old.

4m Jim Hamill Jim Hamill ‏@JimHamill
McQueary: met with Joe Paterno and told him he saw something sexual and wrong. Then contacted #PSU admins Curley & Schultz | #Sandusky

4m Jim Hamill Jim Hamill ‏@JimHamill
McQueary: #Sandusky was standing behind a boy, right up against his back with his front. Boy's hands up against the wall. Glanced few secs.


4m Jim Hamill Jim Hamill ‏@JimHamill
Collective gasp in courtroom when Mike McQueary was called to witness stand around 2:30 pm in #Sandusky trial. AG's star witness starts in..

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McQueary: Went to Lasch building in 2001. Heard showers and smacking sounds, skin on skin, embarrased him. In mirror saw Coach #Sandusky...
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« Reply #1328 on: June 12, 2012, 03:40:57 PM »

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Mike #McQueary testifies he has "no doubt at all" that #Sandusky molested a boy in #PSU showers   http://bit.ly/KlzlIk

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Jerry Sandusky trial: Mike McQueary says he has 'no doubt' Sandusky molested boy in shower
By SARA GANIM, The Patriot-News
Published: Tuesday, June 12, 2012, 3:07 PM     Updated: Tuesday, June 12, 2012, 3:17 PM

BELLEFONTE -- Mike McQueary took the stand this afternoon in the child sex abuse case against Jerry Sandusky. The assistant Penn State football coach told a story very similar to the one that he told at a preliminary hearing for two Penn State officials charged with perjury before a grand jury and never reporting this incident to police.

The story: That he was returning to the coaches' locker room late one Friday night, first heard "skin on skin" slapping noises, and then saw -- through a mirror -- Sandusky in the showers with a young boy, standing behind him in a way that McQueary believed was sexual.
Jerry Sandusky trial, day 2View full sizeJOE HERMITT, The Patriot-NewsFormer Penn State assistant coach Mike McQueary is escorted into the back of the Centre County courthouse during the second day of the Jerry Sandusky trial on child molestation charges.

"To me there's no way in that position his genitals weren't against his rear," he said during cross-examination. "They were extremely, extremely close. As close as can be."

McQueary slammed his locker, made a noise and looked directly into the shower to find both the boy and Sandusky standing and looking at him.

No one said a word.

When asked if he had any doubt of what he'd seen, or who was in that shower, McQueary -- who has been the center of controversy over credibility -- stared at Sandusky for a second, and said: "No doubt at all."
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MC Q is not the villian here. He went up the chain of command to Joe Pa. Joe Pa reported it to his superiors (Head of the campus police Shultz included). People say Joe should have followed up. Do we know he did not??? Maybe he did. The cover up was not with Mike M., or Joe pa, it was with Spanier, Shultz and Curly. If they indeed do have emails indicated discussions about this by spanier, shultz and Curley, while testifiying to the GJ they didn't know, there willl be more trouble ahead for these guys. All of this was wrong but let us not forget Sandusky is the root cause of this. He sickens me. Good luck with your next roomate, Bubba, Gerry. Now you'll be the little guy.
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« Reply #1329 on: June 12, 2012, 03:43:58 PM »

http://altoonamirror.com/page/content.detail/id/561613/Witness--2-sides-to-coach.html?nav=742
Witness: 2 sides to coach
Victim 4 testifies about abuse, gifts from Sandusky

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« Reply #1330 on: June 12, 2012, 03:47:01 PM »

http://altoonamirror.com/page/content.detail/id/561624.html
Updated 3 p.m.: McQueary takes the stand in Sandusky trial
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« Reply #1331 on: June 12, 2012, 03:59:30 PM »

Hard to believe some of those commentors are still going with the "chain of command"
excuses. Call the cops and then let the boss know he has a position open.
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« Reply #1332 on: June 12, 2012, 04:03:00 PM »

Hard to believe some of those commentors are still going with the "chain of command"
excuses. Call the cops and then let the boss know he has a position open.

CYA all over this.  I'm thinking real men are few and far between at PS.

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« Reply #1333 on: June 12, 2012, 05:13:03 PM »

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Trooper wanted to arrest #Sandusky in 2008: http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2012/06/jerry_sandusky_trial_state_pol.html

 
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McQueary is the make-or-break case for #Sandusky defense:   http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2012/06/jerry_sandusky_trial_defense_q.html


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What #Sandusky said to caseworker about his relationship with Vict1:  http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2012/06/jerry_sandusky_trial_caseworke_1.html

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« Reply #1334 on: June 12, 2012, 05:18:18 PM »

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In make-or-break case for the #Sandusky defense, attorneys try to rattle #McQueary with questioning   http://bit.ly/KlBRyi


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"As time goes on, you want to give as much detail as you can possibly give," #McQueary tells #Sandusky defense  http://bit.ly/KlBLGW

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At one point McQueary stopped attorney Karl Rominger when he asked if the incident was sexual. "Not sexual, extremely sexual," he said.
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Caseworker says relationship between #Sandusky and alleged Victim 1 like one between "immature adolescents" [video]  http://bit.ly/Lite52
 
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« Reply #1335 on: June 12, 2012, 05:19:48 PM »

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Alleged Victim One's HS wrestling coach takes stand. Saw #Sandusky and alleged victim together on school grounds. Walked in on the two.


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McQueary repeated "Without a doubt" when it comes to the truthfulness of his testimony. Steps down from the stand @ 3:50pm. | #Sandusky

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Testimony wraps for the day in #Sandusky trial. Next witness supposed to be lengthy. Jurors leave for home.


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« Reply #1336 on: June 12, 2012, 05:21:15 PM »

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#Sandusky has left the courthouse for the day.   http://pic.twitter.com/0do7SO20
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Mike McQueary just left the courthouse after testifying.   http://pic.twitter.com/hDZRhFP9
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"I thought, well, it's Jerry #Sandusky -- he's a saint," wrestling coach told jury   http://bit.ly/LiApu1
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« Reply #1338 on: June 12, 2012, 05:25:38 PM »

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2012/06/jerry_sandusky_trial_state_pol.html
Jerry Sandusky trial: State police trooper said investigation warranted charges
By SARA GANIM, The Patriot-News
Published: Tuesday, June 12, 2012, 3:48 PM     Updated: Tuesday, June 12, 2012, 3:58 PM

BELLEFONTE -- The state police trooper who initially handled the Clinton County case against Jerry Sandusky believed there was enough evidence from a teenage boy -- now known as Victim One -- to charge Sandusky with indecent assault.
Instead, a three-year grand jury investigation ensued, which led to more than 50 counts of child sex abuse against 10 children, and is still ongoing. Sandusky's trial started yesterday.

The statement came out during the testimony of a caseworker who was reviewing Children and Youth Service forms under questioning by Sandusky's attorney, Joe Amendola.

Gov. Tom Corbett has been criticized for supposedly delaying the investigation as attorney general while he ran for governor. Corbett has denied those allegations.
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« Reply #1339 on: June 12, 2012, 05:28:54 PM »

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Jerry Sandusky trial: Defense questions Mike McQueary's story
By SARA GANIM, The Patriot-News
Published: Tuesday, June 12, 2012, 3:17 PM     Updated: Tuesday, June 12, 2012, 3:34 PM

BELLEFONTE -- Questioning former coach Mike McQueary is the Jerry Sandusky defense's make-or-break cross examination, because his defense hinges on the theory that McQueary lied and many of the alleged victims came forward only because Penn State has a lot of money.

McQueary said he saw Sandusky molesting a boy in a Penn State campus shower.

Defense attorney Karl Rominger, for the first time since the trial began, took on the task of questioning the witness.

He immediately questioned McQueary about the date change -- how prosecutors changed the criminal paperwork to say that it didn't happen in March 2002, but instead in February 2001.

McQueary answered that it is consistent with what he'd said all along. His written statement says "2002 or 2001."

McQueary said today in court that he told grand jurors he was only 90 percent sure it was 2002. He also testified today that he repeatedly told investigators to make sure it was the right year because he wasn't sure.

Rominger also asked him about what he told family confidant, Dr. Jonathan Dranov, a topic on controversy since Dranov testified that McQueary told him he hadn't seen anything sexual in the shower that night.

McQueary responded by saying that he toned down his story when he spoke to certain people, partly out of embarrassment.
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