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« Reply #80 on: November 10, 2011, 06:04:34 PM »

http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2011/11/10/2551315/penn-state-riots-protest-joe-paterno-fired-state-college
Penn State Riot: Students Protest, Clash With Police After Joe Paterno Fired
Students took to the streets in State College after Joe Paterno was fired on Wednesday night. Crowds were clashing with police as the protest got out of hand.
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http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7214380/joe-paterno-president-graham-spanier-penn-state
Updated: November 10, 2011, 1:26 AM ET
Joe Paterno, Graham Spanier out
STATE COLLEGE, Pa. -- Penn State trustees fired football coach Joe Paterno and university president Graham Spanier amid the growing furor over how the school handled sex abuse allegations against an assistant coach.

The massive shakeup Wednesday night came hours after Paterno announced that he planned to retire at the end of his 46th season.

But the outcry following the arrest of former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky on molestation charges proved too much for the board to ignore.
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   The students have their priorities all wrong.  They should be angry and outraged with Joe Paterno and etc. for what happened to the young boys and for the cover up that ensued.  Instead they are throwing tantrums that their precious foot ball coach who helped cover up is getting what was coming to him.  Penn State was right in firing Joe Paterno imo.  To allow him to retire at the end of the season wouldn't have shown accountability.  And I'm sure the board knew there would be a backlash when they fired Paterno. 

ITA MUFFYBEE.  My husband is PSU alumini and we both feel that JoePa was really just being arrogant in his earlier yesterday report saying he would retire at the end of this season.  He was trying to nothing but save his job, his pension and his character.  He knew the details and he knew the board would oust him and he thought by saying he would retire at the end of the season he  was bystepping them.  Once again his arrogance showed and once again he was proven wrong.  He was doing nothing more then trying to save himself.  If he ever really cared about PSU Lions and the school he would have turned this situation over to the State Police at the getgo.  He was more worried about his precious team, his precious school and all the outside dollars flooding in then about the corrupt nature of a member of his staff..

Had they been brain surgeons or rocket scientists instead of jocks..maybe just maybe ..they would have thought this through and known that they should do the right thing when things happen..rather then try to cover them up in arrogance..like the truth doesn't always eventually shine through the clouded glass of greed.

Good lord..why do we pay so much to these ridiculous people anyway..and yes it is ricidulous to me that sports figures make the salary they do...I think people have lost sight of the fact all these people do is play a game..a friggin game..and we pay them millions...and the guy studying hard..who may be the next person to cure cancer, the common cold, fight hunger or pick whatever stirs your heart..they have intelligence..not brute force and arrogance..and we pay them zilch in comparison.  We have reaped what we have sown..a nation that values entertainment more then health, well being, security..and that's how we pay people..you entertain me..you get the most...even the old Kings knew that was folly, that's why the court jester was more or less consider the fool..but us we are slow learners in this fast paced 21 century..we haven't moved or accomplished much in the name of brotherhood, manhood, or world peace..but we pay people who can throw a ball more then we pay our president, doctors in research and anyone else for that matter that fills a service in our society....football, basketball, baseball, anyone of those do not fill a need, help anyone other then the players and owners, nor do they contribute to our society in general..it is just a game that children play in school yards..WTH is wrong with us that we pay grown man to play a child's game and then expect them to act like adults?
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« Reply #81 on: November 10, 2011, 06:19:29 PM »

Thank you for sharing your and your husband's feelings on the situation Gypsy, especially since he is PSU alumni.  I don't intend to paint all PSU students, faculty, parents & alums with a wide brush.  I'm sure there are many that feel the way you and your husband do.  I think Joe Paterno should have done the honorable thing and stepped down immediately, instead of his end of season offer to retire.  Instead, the Board of Trustee's had to fire him, which caused a big back lash with the students.  Joe Paterno should have led by example imo.  

There's just so much money and power in college sports.  
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« Reply #82 on: November 10, 2011, 06:51:17 PM »

Michael Reagan’s commentary is must read in its entirety.

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Don’t Be an Enabler — When a Child Is Abused, Here’s What to Do
By Michael Reagan
Published November 10, 2011


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Coach, you knew back in 2002 that Jerry Sandusky had anally raped a ten-year-old boy in the Lasch Football Building. You handled the matter quietly with your athletic director, Tim Curley. You took away the rapist’s keys and barred him from the facility—but you didn’t call the police. You didn’t lift a finger to help the victim. No hindsight needed, coach. You screwed up.

Yes, we all know about your 61-year career at Penn State. But when you allow children to be victimized right under your nose, you wipe out 61 years of achievement. The Jerry Sandusky scandal is your legacy now. …

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http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/11/10/dont-be-enabler-when-child-is-abused-heres-what-to-do/

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Michael Reagan is the son of President Ronald Reagan. He is a political consultant, the founder and chairman of The Reagan Group, and president of The Reagan Legacy Foundation. Visit his website at http://www.reagan.com, and visit the Michael Reagan Center at Arrow Child & Family ministries. Portions of this column are adapted from his book “Twice Adopted.”

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/11/10/dont-be-enabler-when-child-is-abused-heres-what-to-do

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« Reply #83 on: November 10, 2011, 06:55:55 PM »

http://healthland.time.com/2011/11/10/penn-st-scandal-how-parents-can-talk-to-their-kids-about-sex-abuse/?xid=gonewsedit&google_editors_picks=true
Penn State Scandal: Can We Trust Coaches with Our Kids?
November 10, 2011

In a report on Paterno's dismissal on Wednesday, TIME's Sean Gregory plucked a salient quote from Paterno By The Book, the coach's 1989 autobiography. "Coaches have the same obligations as all teachers," wrote Paterno, 84. "Except that we may have more moral and life-shaping influence over our players than anyone else outside of their families."

As Gregory noted, "no one fumbled" that moral influence worse than Paterno, by failing to report to the authorities alleged sexual abuse by a former Penn State defensive coach, Jerry Sandusky. Kids are taught to respect authority figures like Sandusky, who more than 30 years ago launched The Second Mile, a charity for troubled children. Sandusky is accused of molesting at least eight boys he met through the program.

Ironic? Hardly. It's the modus operandi for most sex offenders, who purport to assist, nurture and advise children. The mission of The Second Mile, according to the grand jury that indicted Sandusky on 40 counts of sexually inappropriate encounters with minors, is to "help children who need additional support and would benefit from positive human interaction." First sexual predators gain the trust of children and their parents. Then they take advantage.
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In recent decades, rates of sexual abuse have actually plunged. Child molestation by casual acquaintances and sexual abuse by caregivers decreased 61% from 1992 to 2009, according to the Crimes against Children Research Center
 at the University of New Hampshire.

David Finkelhor, the center's director, credits the decline to increased awareness, better prosecution and school-based prevention programs. "Parents are much more vigilant than they used to be," says Finkelhor, who advises parents to stay aware of what's happening in a kid's environment. That means thinking through a situation thoroughly before letting your child be alone with an adult you don't know well. Many youth sports leagues have gone a step further, establishing protocols for preventing inappropriate contact by requiring multiple adults to be present at practices.

"If your league doesn't have rules about this, it's a problem," says Bob Cook, who writes Your Kid's Not Going Pro, a youth sports blog on Forbes.com. Just as schools do with volunteers, says Cook, sports leagues should conduct background checks on coaches. Yet even Cook, who has coached all four of his kids' sports teams, wonders whether doubting coaches' integrity could backfire. "It's a fine line," he says. "You can't go and assume everyone who deals with your kid is a child molester."
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In fact, the reality is that the people most likely to harm your child are members of your own family and close social network. "You can't tell a sex offender by looking at them," says Feigh. "There isn't a red "S.O." on their shirt." It's their curious behavior that's often a tip-off — lavishing gifts on children and wanting to spend more time with your child than you do. Says Finkelhor: "Uncles and grandfathers and mothers' boyfriends are much more frequent abusers than coaches."

Along those lines, Sandusky's former daughter-in-law is taking no chances. The mother of Sandusky's grandchildren — ages 5, 7 and 9 — obtained a court order Tuesday prohibiting Sandusky from unsupervised visits with his grandchildren and barring overnights at Grandpa's.




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« Reply #84 on: November 10, 2011, 07:09:19 PM »

What an idiot! “How do you fire Jo Pa? insult. no class. as a hawkeye (University of Iowa) fan I find it in poor taste."   


http://blog.sfgate.com/dailydish/2011/11/10/ashton-kutcher-under-fire-for-twitter-posts/
Ashton Kutcher under fire for Twitter posts
November 10, 2011

Ashton Kutcher has shut down his Twitter account after sparking outrage by defending ousted college football coach Joe Paterno.
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Paterno has come under fire for failing to take more action against Sandusky, who has been charged with molesting eight boys over a 15-year period.

Kutcher took to his Twitter account to question the board of trustees’ decision to fire Paterno, writing, “How do you fire Jo Pa? insult. no class. as a hawkeye (University of Iowa) fan I find it in poor taste.

His comment prompted a flurry of angry messages from offended followers, with several criticizing Kutcher for his response in light of the charity he co-founded to end child sex slavery.

The “Two and a Half Men” star quickly deleted the post and closed his page, admitting he felt “awful” about his comment.

He tweeted, “As an advocate in the fight against child sexual exploitation, I could not be more remorseful for all involved in the Penn St. case. As of immediately I will stop tweeting until I find a way to properly manage this feed. I feel awful about this error. Won’t happen again.”

He included a link to a post on his blog saying that he’s turned over his Twitter account management to his production company. He writes, “Up until today I have posted virtually everyone of my tweets on my own, but clearly the platform has become to big to be managed by a single individual… While I will continue to express myself through @Aplusk I’m going to turn the management of the feed over to my team at Katalyst Media to ensure the quality of it’s (sic) content.”
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https://www.internationalrewardscentre.com/component/content/article/887-demi-moore-and-ashton-kutcher-speak-out-against-child-slavery.html
Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher Speak Out Against Child Slavery
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A couple on a mission, Demi Moore and husband Ashton Kutcher are spreading the word about the international problem of child slavery. "This is another opportunity to engage people and to create awareness that human trafficking exists right here in America," Demi explained. Kutcher added, "I don't want to be in a world where that's happening and not do something to stop it." The actor has launched a campaign called "Real Men Don't Buy Girls" that has successfully gone viral thanks to the support of famous pals Bradley Cooper, Justin Timberlake, Sean Penn, and many others.
About The Demi and Ashton Foundation

Believing that freedom is a basic human right, Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher founded The Demi and Ashton Foundation (DNA) to raise awareness about child sex slavery, change the cultural stereotypes that facilitate this horrific problem, and rehabilitate innocent victims. DNA is a U.S.-based nonprofit organization.
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« Reply #85 on: November 10, 2011, 07:30:24 PM »

Mike McQueary Will Have to Publicly Live with His Cowardice: A Fan’s Perspective

 

We all know Mike McQueary didn't walk in that locker room expecting to be faced with a situation where heroism was needed. That boy didn't need an out and out hero that night. Neither did the victims after him. What they needed was a leader. Hell, what they needed was a human being.

Instead, they got Mike McQueary
http://sports.yahoo.com/top/news?slug=ycn-10399373
He was a young guy who went through what he thought was the proper chain of command.  I don't think its right for him to be held to a higher standard that grown men who'd be coaching for decades.  I see those closest to Sandusky and in supervisory positions as more culpable.  Pointing a finger at McQueary makes him the bad guy and Paterno and others less so.  I'm not buying it.  Every time they look at their grandsons they need to think about what they allowed to happen.  Shameful.
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« Reply #86 on: November 10, 2011, 07:32:31 PM »

I would really want to know what was on RG's harddrive.  Child porn connected to Sandusky?  I'm sorry but I can't believe that one man would be so connected to such a case as this and just happen to turn up missing.  nope.  A coincidence like that is just too unbelieveable to really happen. 
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« Reply #87 on: November 10, 2011, 07:53:19 PM »

I would really want to know what was on RG's harddrive.  Child porn connected to Sandusky?  I'm sorry but I can't believe that one man would be so connected to such a case as this and just happen to turn up missing.  nope.  A coincidence like that is just too unbelieveable to really happen. 

I wonder if the laptop hard drive is still around.  Technology in 2005 when it was found is much different today then it was then.  Maybe information could be recovered?  And the article I had posted earlier only mentioned internet searches like "how to wreck a hard drive".  I wonder if there was anything pertaining to Sandusky or child porn?

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/09/sports/ncaafootball/questions-on-sandusky-wrapped-in-2005-gricar-mystery.html
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On April 15, 2005, Gricar, then 59, took the day off. At about 11:30 a.m., he called his girlfriend, Patricia Fornicola, to say he was taking a drive on Route 192. About 12 hours later, she reported him missing.

The next day, Gricar’s Mini Cooper was found in a parking lot in Lewisburg, about 50 miles from his home in Bellefonte. Gricar’s cellphone was in the car, but not his laptop, wallet or keys, which were never recovered. Months later, the laptop was found in the Susquehanna River without its hard drive, which was discovered later. It was too damaged to yield any information. On the fourth anniversary of his disappearance, investigators revealed that a search of his home computer yielded a history of Internet searches for phrases like “how to wreck a hard drive,” according to a report at the time in The Centre Daily Times.
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« Reply #88 on: November 10, 2011, 08:02:32 PM »

I believe the term "sex scandal" minimizes the very serious nature of events at PSU.  There's a reason I started this thread under "Crimes Against Children, Elderly and Disabled" and not "Sports" or "News of the Day".  The reason:  because what Sandusky has done and the others that enabled him to continue to sexually abuse young boys are "Crimes Against Children".  We need to call it what it is.   No need to soft pedal it.   And here's an article I whole heartedly agree with:

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/columns/editors-desk/media-criticized-penn-state-isn-t-a-sex-scandal/article_f5cc5966-0bf3-11e1-b41b-001a4bcf6878.html
Media criticized: Penn State isn't a 'sex scandal'
November 10, 2011

Self-proclaimed "tech culture journalist" Xeni Jardin has criticized the media for using "sex scandal" in reporting the turmoil at Penn State, notes Steve Myers of the Poynter media training institute.

Jardin tweeted: "Media dudes: a "sex scandal" is when someone has an affair. Raping children is something else."
Searches for "sex abuse" have tripled since Saturday, when the grand jury indicted former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky, according to Google Trends. But searches for "sex scandal" also have increased by at least the same amount.
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The St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported Joe Paterno's firing and other developments on its front page this morning under a main headline that read: "Shake-up at Penn State." One of two smaller headlines under the main headline read: PATERNO, SCHOOL HEAD FIRED -- Fallout from sex scandal involving former assistant coach."






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« Reply #89 on: November 10, 2011, 08:07:23 PM »

Mike McQueary Will Have to Publicly Live with His Cowardice: A Fan’s Perspective

 

We all know Mike McQueary didn't walk in that locker room expecting to be faced with a situation where heroism was needed. That boy didn't need an out and out hero that night. Neither did the victims after him. What they needed was a leader. Hell, what they needed was a human being.

Instead, they got Mike McQueary
http://sports.yahoo.com/top/news?slug=ycn-10399373
He was a young guy who went through what he thought was the proper chain of command.  I don't think its right for him to be held to a higher standard that grown men who'd be coaching for decades.  I see those closest to Sandusky and in supervisory positions as more culpable.  Pointing a finger at McQueary makes him the bad guy and Paterno and others less so.  I'm not buying it.  Every time they look at their grandsons they need to think about what they allowed to happen.  Shameful.

KittyMom ... I respectfully disagree.

Mike McQueary was 28 years old when he witnessed Jerry Sandusky in the act of raping a 10/11 year old boy and did nothing.  If that little boy was your son/grandson would you  give Mike McQueary a pass.

When you consider Mike McQueary's current position within the football program at Penn ... it is obvious that he was benefited over the years by his silence.

I am disgusted!!!

Did you read the Grand Jury transcript regarding the hell that little boys experienced because an adult who witnessed and adults who had knowledge did nothing.

I am disgusted with them all!!  Personal integrity and the integrity of the University would be intact today if it were not for a conspiracy of silence.

Janet
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« Reply #90 on: November 10, 2011, 08:07:31 PM »

I believe the term "sex scandal" minimizes the very serious nature of events at PSU.  There's a reason I started this thread under "Crimes Against Children, Elderly and Disabled" and not "Sports" or "News of the Day".  The reason:  because what Sandusky has done and the others that enabled him to continue to sexually abuse young boys are "Crimes Against Children".  We need to call it what it is.   No need to soft pedal it.   And here's an article I whole heartedly agree with:

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/columns/editors-desk/media-criticized-penn-state-isn-t-a-sex-scandal/article_f5cc5966-0bf3-11e1-b41b-001a4bcf6878.html
Media criticized: Penn State isn't a 'sex scandal'
November 10, 2011

Self-proclaimed "tech culture journalist" Xeni Jardin has criticized the media for using "sex scandal" in reporting the turmoil at Penn State, notes Steve Myers of the Poynter media training institute.

Jardin tweeted: "Media dudes: a "sex scandal" is when someone has an affair. Raping children is something else."
Searches for "sex abuse" have tripled since Saturday, when the grand jury indicted former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky, according to Google Trends. But searches for "sex scandal" also have increased by at least the same amount.
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The St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported Joe Paterno's firing and other developments on its front page this morning under a main headline that read: "Shake-up at Penn State." One of two smaller headlines under the main headline read: PATERNO, SCHOOL HEAD FIRED -- Fallout from sex scandal involving former assistant coach."

I heard it being compared to what went on in the catholic church. 
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« Reply #91 on: November 10, 2011, 08:09:56 PM »

Mike McQueary Will Have to Publicly Live with His Cowardice: A Fan’s Perspective

 

We all know Mike McQueary didn't walk in that locker room expecting to be faced with a situation where heroism was needed. That boy didn't need an out and out hero that night. Neither did the victims after him. What they needed was a leader. Hell, what they needed was a human being.

Instead, they got Mike McQueary
http://sports.yahoo.com/top/news?slug=ycn-10399373
He was a young guy who went through what he thought was the proper chain of command.  I don't think its right for him to be held to a higher standard that grown men who'd be coaching for decades.  I see those closest to Sandusky and in supervisory positions as more culpable.  Pointing a finger at McQueary makes him the bad guy and Paterno and others less so.  I'm not buying it.  Every time they look at their grandsons they need to think about what they allowed to happen.  Shameful.

KittyMom ... I respectfully disagree.

Mike McQueary was 28 years old when he witnessed Jerry Sandusky in the act of raping a 10/11 year old boy and did nothing.  If that little boy was your son/grandson would you  give Mike McQueary a pass.

When you consider Mike McQueary's current position within the football program at Penn ... it is obvious that he was benefited over the years by his silence.

I am disgusted!!!

Did you read the Grand Jury transcript regarding the hell that little boys experienced because an adult who witnessed and adults who had knowledge did nothing.

I am disgusted with them all!!  Personal integrity and the integrity of the University would be intact today if it were not for a conspiracy of silence.

Janet

Whoa...I thought I read 21 and he was a grad student.  Now I have to find where I read that.  If he was 28yrs old that is a different story.  Those 7 years would give him experience and perspective.  Going to read back now.
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« Reply #92 on: November 10, 2011, 08:10:44 PM »


http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/mc-penn-state-paterno-aftermath-20111110,0,2115667.story
Penn State interim president says more coming on McQueary
Rodney Erickson's remarks come as trustees seek to contain fallout from child sexual abuse scandal.

November 10, 2011

Penn State introduced its first new head football coach in nearly half a century on Thursday, even as State College recovered from the riot that followed the firing of legendary coach Joe Paterno and the Board of Trustees continued to meet on how to contain the fallout.

Early Thursday evening, Penn State interim president Rodney Erickson emerged from a trustees meeting, telling reporters to "stay tuned" for more on assistant coach Mike McQueary, who told a grand jury he witnessed former coach Jerry Sandusky allegedly assaulting a young boy in 2002 when he worked as a graduate assistant
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With Paterno fired and univesrity President Graham Spanier tendering his resignation, McQueary emerged as the focus of the media ire with commentators questioning why the former Penn State quarterback didn't stop the alleged sexual encounter.

Erickson offered no other details. But earlier Wednesday interim coach Tom Bradley said McQueary would be at Saturday's game against Nebraska, but his role was undetermined. A trustee who asked not to identified because of the sensitive nature of the scandal said the trustees do not want McQueary on the field for fear of his safety.

At a news conference at the Penn Stater on Thursday afternoon, Gov. Tom Corbett sidestepped questions about the fate MQueary.

"The university -- and you will have to talk to the university itself -- still has some deliberations to make in that respect," the governor said.

When he was asked his personal opinion about what should happen, "I'm not going to give you my opinion yet. I have many opinions. This is not the time to be sharing that. I have to see that the university addresses it in a proper way. I would remind everybody, it would appear … I'm going to back off on McQueary."
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« Reply #93 on: November 10, 2011, 08:17:24 PM »

Under the circumstances (see my bold) maybe an attorney is a wise idea.  Was he getting legal advice previously, but not in a formal fashion?  What would an attorney have advised him when told about the assistant coach sexually abusing a young boy? 

http://openchannel.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/10/8742718-paterno-hires-criminal-defense-lawyer-source-tells-nbc-news
Paterno hires criminal defense lawyer, source tells NBC News
November 10, 2011

Joe Paterno has hired a prominent Washington criminal defense lawyer to represent him in the Penn State sex abuse case, a source close to the case told NBC News.

J. Sedgwick Sollers, who once represented President George H.W. Bush in the Iran-Contra affair, was hired by Paterno on Thursday. The longtime Penn State football coach was fired Wednesday night after disclosures in a grand jury report that one of his assistants informed him in 2002 about an alleged incident of sexual abuse by former defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky.

Paterno has not been charged with any crimes in the case. He has been described as a cooperating witness in the case. Two other university officials who Paterno told about the incident were charged this week with failing to report Sandusky's conduct to legal authorities and perjury.

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« Reply #94 on: November 10, 2011, 08:18:37 PM »

Last Man Standing
Mike McQueary says that he saw Jerry Sandusky sexually assault a child. Why does he still have a job at Penn State?
By Josh Levin|Posted Thursday, Nov. 10, 2011, at 6:00 PM ET


On March 1, 2002, Mike McQueary allegedly walked into the Penn State locker room and saw Jerry Sandusky raping a young boy. According to the grand jury report in the Sandusky case, McQueary—then a 28-year-old graduate assistant for the Nittany Lions football team—“left immediately, distraught.” McQueary then called his father, who advised him to tell coach Joe Paterno what he’d seen. He did as his father advised, and a short while later, he told Penn State’s athletic director Tim Curley and administrator Gary Schultz as well. A few weeks later, the report explains, Curley told McQueary “that Sandusky’s keys to the locker room were taken away and that the incident had been reported to The Second Mile,” Sandusky’s nonprofit for at-risk children. Until he testified before the grand jury, that’s where the story ended for Mike McQueary. He was never interviewed by Penn State police, and he never reported Sandusky’s actions to any other agency.

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« Reply #95 on: November 10, 2011, 08:31:14 PM »

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Mike McQueary says that he saw Jerry Sandusky sexually assault a child. Why does he still have a job at Penn State?
By Josh Levin|Posted Thursday, Nov. 10, 2011, at 6:00 PM ET


On March 1, 2002, Mike McQueary allegedly walked into the Penn State locker room and saw Jerry Sandusky raping a young boy. According to the grand jury report in the Sandusky case, McQueary—then a 28-year-old graduate assistant for the Nittany Lions football team—“left immediately, distraught.” McQueary then called his father, who advised him to tell coach Joe Paterno what he’d seen. He did as his father advised, and a short while later, he told Penn State’s athletic director Tim Curley and administrator Gary Schultz as well. A few weeks later, the report explains, Curley told McQueary “that Sandusky’s keys to the locker room were taken away and that the incident had been reported to The Second Mile,” Sandusky’s nonprofit for at-risk children. Until he testified before the grand jury, that’s where the story ended for Mike McQueary. He was never interviewed by Penn State police, and he never reported Sandusky’s actions to any other agency.

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OK, I stand corrected.  I guess I saw graduate assistant and thought this was like when I was in school many years ago.  The grad assts we had were actual grad students, recently graduated from a 4 yr prog. working to help pay tuition.  I didn't realize the guy was 28.  I can't believe he didn't make a sound.  I'd have involuntarily screamed.  What explanation do any of these people really have?

I did read that some of these kids spent time in Sandusky's home with his wife and that some of the abuse took place there.  Did this woman not have a clue?
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« Reply #96 on: November 10, 2011, 08:34:11 PM »

Mike McQueary Will Have to Publicly Live with His Cowardice: A Fan’s Perspective

 

We all know Mike McQueary didn't walk in that locker room expecting to be faced with a situation where heroism was needed. That boy didn't need an out and out hero that night. Neither did the victims after him. What they needed was a leader. Hell, what they needed was a human being.

Instead, they got Mike McQueary
http://sports.yahoo.com/top/news?slug=ycn-10399373
He was a young guy who went through what he thought was the proper chain of command.  I don't think its right for him to be held to a higher standard that grown men who'd be coaching for decades.  I see those closest to Sandusky and in supervisory positions as more culpable.  Pointing a finger at McQueary makes him the bad guy and Paterno and others less so.  I'm not buying it.  Every time they look at their grandsons they need to think about what they allowed to happen.  Shameful.

McQueary wasn't a green  18 year old freshman  when this happened, he was a 28 year old grad assistant working on a master's degree in education administration.  He had already graduated with a BS from PSU, went undrafted in football and came back to PSU.   I have a 27 year old grad assistant son at another university working on his masters, and by the time they're that old, they know they're way around.  imo. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45243509/ns/sports-the_new_york_times/#.TrwhG3JZrwI

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« Reply #97 on: November 10, 2011, 08:39:42 PM »

Mike McQueary Will Have to Publicly Live with His Cowardice: A Fan’s Perspective

 

We all know Mike McQueary didn't walk in that locker room expecting to be faced with a situation where heroism was needed. That boy didn't need an out and out hero that night. Neither did the victims after him. What they needed was a leader. Hell, what they needed was a human being.

Instead, they got Mike McQueary
http://sports.yahoo.com/top/news?slug=ycn-10399373
He was a young guy who went through what he thought was the proper chain of command.  I don't think its right for him to be held to a higher standard that grown men who'd be coaching for decades.  I see those closest to Sandusky and in supervisory positions as more culpable.  Pointing a finger at McQueary makes him the bad guy and Paterno and others less so.  I'm not buying it.  Every time they look at their grandsons they need to think about what they allowed to happen.  Shameful.

McQueary wasn't a green  18 year old freshman  when this happened, he was a 28 year old grad assistant working on a master's degree in education administration.  He had already graduated with a BS from PSU, went undrafted in football and came back to PSU.   I have a 27 year old grad assistant son at another university working on his masters, and by the time they're that old, they know they're way around.  imo. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45243509/ns/sports-the_new_york_times/#.TrwhG3JZrwI


I realize that I had the wrong idea on his age.  I stand corrected.
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« Reply #98 on: November 10, 2011, 08:48:37 PM »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Sandusky

It is wiki so take it with a grain of salt.

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Sandusky is married and has six adopted children.[23] He also took in foster children.[5]
One son, Jon Sandusky, serves as Director of Player Personnel for the Cleveland Browns.[24][25] Another son, E.J. Sandusky, is an assistant football coach at West Chester University.[26]

It makes you wonder if he ever abused his own kids.
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« Reply #99 on: November 10, 2011, 08:54:58 PM »

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I somehow believe that some of those children closest to Jerry Sandusky ... some of those children who are now grown have a story to tell.

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PSU's Jerry Sandusky 'found his victims' at Second Mile group home
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Mr. Sandusky and his wife Dottie have six adopted children and had cared for foster children, which led them to start the nonprofit. Mr. Sandusky was inducted into the Pennsylvania Sports Hall of Fame in 1999 and received awards for Second Mile including the 1993 NAACP Human Rights Award, the 1995 YMCA Service-To-Youth Award and the 1996 SGMA Heroes Award. President George Bush nationally recognized it as a philanthropic "Point Of Light" in November 1990.

"After we had taken in some foster children," Mrs. Sandusky told Sports Illustrated in 1982, "we saw the opportunities that some kids just hadn't had. But we'd gotten to the point where we couldn't take in any more, so Jerry started thinking about starting a group home."

It was also within the charity that Mr. Sandusky "found his victims," a grand jury presentment stated. "Through The Second Mile, Sandusky had access to hundreds of boys, many of whom were vulnerable due to their social situations."

Mr. Sandusky retired from Penn State in 1999 to devote his time to Second Mile, where he would stay on until 2010. Efforts to reach the foundation's CEO Jack Raykovitz were not successful, but he released a statement to the Patriot-News Friday.

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