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Topic: Lively Case Discussion #642 6/19 - 6/20/2007 (Read 155307 times)
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June 20, 2007, 12:28:40 AM »
Quote from: "Dana"
Show Wednesday night at 9pm et, still working on the guest list.
Dana, how about Clint again and examining the statement Clint may have seen that has Joran's confession... according to info gathered, he could be the the only one other than Beth that saw it. Food for thought.
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June 20, 2007, 12:30:18 AM »
Klaas,
Do you remember a Juan that posted at BFN and other blogs? I guess he was from Venezuela and seemed very interested in the case. Just curious is all..Trying to see a connection...We know that Andres Meneses in costa rica is also involved with planes.
http://s26.photobucket.com/albums/c105/jcaviation737/Aeroclub%201/
Posted by Pita:
Yes, Juan claimed to know a female friend of Joran's. From a prior chat, Juan knows a lot about helicopters in Aruba. Even had his own theory about how one was involved in Natalee's disappearance.
Juan, if you are reading you need to come back and tell us your story again.
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June 20, 2007, 12:31:58 AM »
I am so hoping that Beth's book is a tell-all and based on the facts she kept in her journal. It might be an inspirational one based on how she coped through all this instead. Or both, but I do hope she answers some of the questions we have had for so long about some of the facts of this investigation.
The real, inside scoop is what I want! But knowing how she has endured this would also be of tremendous interest for us all as everyone has trials in life. Fortunately, most do not rise to this level. Still in all, I think I am ready for some new actual factual information as I think we have pretty well digested what we have had access to. In some cases, maybe over-digested it.
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Murder & Crime on Aruba Summary
http://tinyurl.com/2nus7c
Hotshot
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Reply #583 on:
June 20, 2007, 12:33:43 AM »
Quote from: "Anna"
SAM,[/b
Long ago when I still read at RU, I saw posts that were supposedly from Robin posted there.
Also someone gave them lots of photos of Natalee as a little girl and Robin was in many of those. One was used to make a very unflattering photoshopped comparison of Natalee, whose grades were good enough to get her scholarship, as a fetal alcohol syndrome baby.
But there were several posts long ago which RU claimed were from Robin.
I am sure others saw those as well as me.
.
Agree, and one of the posts were from a year ago. I don't know if that was the old, or new RU, but I do know my timing is about right. I have not spoken to the Holloways in a while now, so I don't know why she is friendly with "them". Maybe there is a reason for all of it, I have no idea. Maybe she feels safer writing that letter since Dave is about to go to Aruba with Tim. But whatever it is, there has to be a reason we all don't know about, and if it's a good one, I am hoping they will share it with us soon. We all have been here from the beginning, and I think it's only fair. I myself am beside myself whith this letter written to BFN, as I am sure you all are. Just remember Robin is Robin, and Beth is Beth, you can't even try to compare the 2. Dave is one hell of a guy, and Natalee is HIS daughter, I am just hoping he is not giving up, and I hope he is not doing this just to apease (sp) anyone.
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Joran van der Sloot:
One day, I will explain exactly what happened, but, right now, I don’t feel ready to do that.
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June 20, 2007, 12:36:38 AM »
Quote from: "wreck"
I'M NOT DONE WITH THIS!
Good posts tonight
wreck
. I think you have it covered. Let's just hope that this decision was made based on confidence in, or specific information from, the current investigation and not the whinings of an Aruban merchant. The way that internet forums have covered this case is all new ground and it is not entirely fair to expect members of the victims family to keep up with the *pulse* of the forums. If Dave had known the type of reaction this post would cause i think he would have changed the method and timing of its release, if not the content.
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June 20, 2007, 12:37:04 AM »
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I am so hoping that Beth's book is a tell-all and based on the facts she kept in her journal. It might be an inspirational one based on how she coped through all this instead. Or both, but I do hope she answers some of the questions we have had for so long about some of the facts of this investigation.
The real, inside scoop is what I want! But knowing how she has endured this would also be of tremendous interest for us all as everyone has trials in life. Fortunately, most do not rise to this level. Still in all, I think I am ready for some new actual factual information as I think we have pretty well digested what we have had access to. In some cases, maybe over-digested it.
Sources close to SM say its a doozy. I think we have all come to know and love Beth's non-PC way. That's what makes her real.
Trust me when Greta makes the comments about Beth's notes and the binders, she is not lying. She had quite the amount of notes and paper work with her in Aruba. I was afraid the wind was going to blow it away.
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June 20, 2007, 12:38:33 AM »
Quote from: "*******"
Klaas,
Do you remember a Juan that posted at BFN and other blogs? I guess he was from Venezuela and seemed very interested in the case. Just curious is all..Trying to see a connection...We know that Andres Meneses in costa rica is also involved with planes.
http://s26.photobucket.com/albums/c105/jcaviation737/Aeroclub%201/
Posted by Pita:
Yes, Juan claimed to know a female friend of Joran's. From a prior chat, Juan knows a lot about helicopters in Aruba. Even had his own theory about how one was involved in Natalee's disappearance.
Juan, if you are reading you need to come back and tell us your story again.
I do remember something about Juan and for some reason I was thinking he was a fraud, but I'll check again.
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June 20, 2007, 12:38:41 AM »
Hotshot,
I didn't know Dave was going to Aruba with TES for the big search. It stands to reason there should be family present in the event that some remains are found but had not heard before that Dave was actually going.
Does Aruba have any way of knowing of all the successes TES has had in this country recently?
Maybe Jossy could do an article on them so that the people of Aruba would know the truth instead of the slander against TES.
I think that would be a wonderful thing.
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Murder & Crime on Aruba Summary
http://tinyurl.com/2nus7c
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June 20, 2007, 12:38:48 AM »
Hotshot
that is a very important point you touched on IMO. If Dave
is
going to Aruba with Tim it is risky for both. Dave had the support of Aruba/ Arubians when he had not yet come out backing the boycott. Call-off the boycott, Dave will be safer? It may just be as simple as that.
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*******, are you sure that is
the
Menses we are looking for? I have a bunch of screen shots of someone named Andre Menses, if anyone wants them again.
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June 20, 2007, 12:39:41 AM »
Hmmmm, Dana , how about Beth as an upcoming guest?
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June 20, 2007, 12:42:34 AM »
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*******, are you sure that is
the
Menses we are looking for? I have a bunch of screen shots of someone named Andre Menses, if anyone wants them again.
No..Not sure at all..It's just that I keep seeing these Virtual Flying sites/Photography of planes.I never heard of this juan guy before..It was news to me.
BTW: Dude..I saw your blog..Nice work!!
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Rob
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Well, I better hit
it
....
Good Nite and my pleasure as always!
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June 20, 2007, 12:43:43 AM »
Quote from: "Red"
Quote from: "Anna"
I am so hoping that Beth's book is a tell-all and based on the facts she kept in her journal. It might be an inspirational one based on how she coped through all this instead. Or both, but I do hope she answers some of the questions we have had for so long about some of the facts of this investigation.
The real, inside scoop is what I want! But knowing how she has endured this would also be of tremendous interest for us all as everyone has trials in life. Fortunately, most do not rise to this level. Still in all, I think I am ready for some new actual factual information as I think we have pretty well digested what we have had access to. In some cases, maybe over-digested it.
Sources close to SM say its a doozy. I think we have all come to know and love Beth's non-PC way. That's what makes her real.
Trust me when Greta makes the comments about Beth's notes and the binders, she is not lying. She had quite the amount of notes and paper work with her in Aruba. I was afraid the wind was going to blow it away.
Thank you, Red,
Beth became so thin in Aruba I was afraid the wind was going to blow HER away and thought maybe that journal was her anchor to keep that from happening!
Think I will go ahead and pre-order it just to be sure of getting a copy as I am just about ready to predict a sell out of the first printing and am not good at waiting for the next edition.
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Murder & Crime on Aruba Summary
http://tinyurl.com/2nus7c
Rob
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June 20, 2007, 12:45:57 AM »
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Quote from: "Rob"
*******, are you sure that is
the
Menses we are looking for? I have a bunch of screen shots of someone named Andre Menses, if anyone wants them again.
No..Not sure at all..It's just that I keep seeing these Virtual Flying sites/Photography of planes.I never heard of this juan guy before..It was news to me.
BTW: Dude..I saw your blog..Nice work!!
Thanks...for the nice words.
here are the shots again and I better get to bed.
I'm not sure this is the right guy either.
Good nite everyone.
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Nite
Rob
and all other Monkeys, I'm also headed out.
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Nite BB
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Nite
Rob
and all other Monkeys, I'm also headed out.
Right behind you all,goodnight!
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Nite Elaine
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He sure does well for himself being a 17 year old kid. He is listed as the media contact at photos.aero as well.
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