Lively Case Discussion #643 6/20 - 6/21/2007

[Kat_Gram]

Well, Koen has given several statements (according to the Phil papers).

But they wanted some follow up interview and it was a No Go .
Ms. Flanegin wanted that too. She worked in the prosecutors office.
It's in Dave's book.
Art, to me, sounds tired , and he is also playing his cards close to his vest. IMO

[Dihannah1]

Very good questions and great interview Dana!

[bleachedblack]

Weird that Art Wood didn't know about Jorans book IMO ?

I agree.  I would have thought this book would have been professionally translated, by now.  

 Not beig rude here. and I appreciate Dana bigtie.. but I am not real impressed with Art Woof right now.  he sounds like a smartass IMO.

Art sounds off tonight..Keep in mind he is not a young guy either any more

True.. At first I was not impressed.. but now that the interview went on.. I feel differently..  

I agree Angie . I think he was fairly candid, more than we have heard from some others.

[klaasend]

Well, Koen has given several statements (according to the Phil papers).

Yes, he did give statements but not after Dave and Art got additional information that lead them to believe Koen's boat was used.

[Rob]

DANA KiX ASS!!!!

[klaasend]

Art sounded like he has a cold or a cough or something.

[klaasend]

Ronald MacKinnon who is trying to prevent his daughter from being abducted to Japan

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[Observer]

If Natalee is in that ocean lets hope it was Koens boat that was used. They probably just went a few miles off the coast and Natalee will be found.

If Paulus had help from this columbian we hear about then she could be anywhere in a huge ocean.

[Dihannah1]

So what is the first 1/2 hour of Haunting Evidence about  ? 9:30-10:00p does anyone know?

From what I saw on the previews, it's a followup on there last episode from last season?  I've never seen the show, so not sure.

[klaasend]

Ronald MacKinnon who is trying to prevent his daughter from being abducted to Japan

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NJ Court OKs Child's Move to Japan
June 11, 2007 - 6:55pm

By JEFFREY GOLD
Associated Press Writer

NEWARK, N.J. (AP) - A divorced woman may move to Japan with her daughter over the wishes of the child's father, even though he fears Japanese law won't allow him to enforce visitation orders, the New Jersey Supreme Court ruled Monday.

The 7-0 ruling upheld two lower court rulings in the case of Ronald and Erika MacKinnon, who separated in 2002 after 11 years of marriage. Their daughter, Justine, is 7.

Hours later, Chief Justice James R. Zazzali put the ruling on hold so the court could consider whether to give the father time to appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court.

Ronald MacKinnon noted Japan is not among 79 nations that have signed the Hague Convention, which seeks to return abducted children, meaning he would have no legal recourse.

The Supreme Court found that Erika MacKinnon had obeyed all court orders.

"We reiterate that 'fear alone is insufficient to deprive' a custodial parent of the ability to relocate with a child if the parent has a good faith reason for the move and has shown that the child will not suffer from it," Chief Justice James R. Zazzali wrote for the court.

Zazzali noted that lower courts had agreed the child's best interests would be served by moving to Japan with her mother, who is a Japanese citizen and has relatives there, according to court papers.

Ronald MacKinnon's lawyer, Michele D'Onofrio, said they would consider appealing to the U.S. Supreme Court. The girl's father is a construction worker currently sidelined with an injury, she said.

She said that while Erika MacKinnon, a massage therapist and housekeeper, has not blocked visitation in the past, she would probably not earn enough on Okinawa to bring their daughter back with any regularity.

"The likelihood of frequent travel, three times a year as ordered by the trial court, is unlikely," D'Onofrio said.

D'Onofrio said she hoped the U.S. Supreme Court would accept the case to resolve conflicting decisions by state courts in similar cases.

Erika MacKinnon's lawyer, Christina Reger, said they would ask the state Supreme Court to put its ruling into effect and let MacKinnon and her daughter move.

"There's not a federal issue here, so we don't anticipate the Supreme Court taking this," Reger said.

[bleachedblack]

If Natalee is in that ocean lets hope it was Koens boat that was used. They probably just went a few miles off the coast and Natalee will be found.

If Paulus had help from this columbian we hear about then she could be anywhere in a huge ocean.

I wonder how closely that boat was ever examined? If at all.......

[Easywriter]

Koen ?

That was a surprise to me too.

In the past he said Freddy was the key to all of this.

[truthseeker2]

Koen ?

That was a surprise to me too.

In the past he said Freddy was the key to all of this.

That's what I thought he had said once before.  I was really hoping he would have said Satish would be the one he wanted to interview.

[bleachedblack]

TX Dihannah1.

[Kat_Gram]

Zazzali noted that lower courts had agreed the child's best interests would be served by moving to Japan with her mother, who is a Japanese citizen and has relatives there, according to court papers.
Well here is the key, in the US. Why does this lady feel that the life would be bettter in Japan ?

[truthseeker2]

I can't imagine taking my kids to Japan and not letting them see their father.  Why can't people just put their differenced aside when it comes to their kids????

[bleachedblack]

Koen ?

That was a surprise to me too.

In the past he said Freddy was the key to all of this.

I do remember Art being with Dave at the meeting/lunch with Flannegin, and then Daves outrage after the information about Koen was shared with them.

[Elaine]

Koen ?

That was a surprise to me too.

In the past he said Freddy was the key to all of this.

That's what I thought he had said once before.  I was really hoping he would have said Satish would be the one he wanted to interview.

I was too, Satish.

[Easywriter]

This is the first time I have watched this show and I'm not sure what to make of it.......  

[Observer]

If Natalee is in that ocean lets hope it was Koens boat that was used. They probably just went a few miles off the coast and Natalee will be found.

If Paulus had help from this columbian we hear about then she could be anywhere in a huge ocean.

I wonder how closely that boat was ever examined? If at all.......

I dont believe Koen was ever questioned about the Boat or it was ever looked at. They received a good tip that the Gottenboes boat may have been used to dispose of Natalee. Not sure who the tip came from if it was Michael Dompig or someone else.