Lively Case Discussion #643 6/20 - 6/21/2007

[BTgirl]

They still haven't lost me yet. I never thought she died at the VDS residence.

[San]

John is seeing images of them in the car.  He is returning to CnC's at night.  He is drawing on a paper.  He sees the car stop and X marks the spot.  He is trying to locate the spot.

John knows he is on the right track.  He is beginning to feel like there is a stop made.  The road curves to the right.  The road leads to the FH where Carla was the day before.  He was pretty sure Natalee was there but when she was there it was very very dark.  John is walking around to get a feel.  He need to bring her some place where they can be alone.  He sees somehow they left their shoes some place.  He is a little too egar and she is resisting him.  SHe is not responding to his advances.  The situations is turning very badly for her.  She wishes she had not left her friends.  She just wants him to go.  Something after than something goes terribly wrong and now at this point in the story Natalee Holloway is in grave danger.

[truthseeker2]

Has she even mentioned K2 at all?

She hasn't mention anyone by name except Natalee.

[Red]

Hey Dana ... can we get your guest back on who did the face pics, think she did you and nailed you dead on.

I think she may be able to contribute more than this.

[San]

Klass... is that YOUR map?

I am pretty skeptical myself.... they just lost me... I will never believe that Natalee liked him.....

I agree mrs. red.   If she says they weren't at the Van der Sloots I think this is all BS.

[klaasend]

They haven't said anything we didn't already know or suspect.  They didn't have to play the show out this way though.

Adding to the above, whatever their psychic abilities and editors have decided in this case...it follows my beliefs almost to the T.  Psychic abilities or not, they could have gone a different direction with this show and from their investigation of the case didn't.

[Dihannah1]

They haven't said anything we didn't already know or suspect.  They didn't have to play the show out this way though.

I was really hoping they would make me a believer!

Hey Red!  What about SM T.V. next!  We can make a documentary and REALLY educate the public!    

[Easywriter]

I know the police do use psychics and the have helped.  But, I'm sorry, unless they actually solve this case, I'm skeptical.  This was taped in February.  Nothing solved yet, that we know about.

exactly

How long did it take before the Sloot house was searched?  Two years ago, or two weeks ago?

[wreck]

well, so far all they have "revealed" is what has already been HIGHLY presented in the media.  Trying to be open minded, but.....

[Dana]

Hey Dana ... can we get your guest back on who did the face pics, think she did you and nailed you dead on.

I think she may be able to contribute more than this.

good idea i should check into that

[truthseeker2]

I thought Joran and Natalee did not dance together.

[Observer]

They haven't said anything we didn't already know or suspect.  They didn't have to play the show out this way though.

I was really hoping they would make me a believer!

Hey Red!  What about SM T.V. next!  We can make a documentary and REALLY educate the public!    

I guarentee they would blow away the made for TV show that is coming out about Natalee that garrison is apart of.

[Dihannah1]

OMG,  I'm sorry, but I'm laughing now!  This is too much for me....

If the case isn't solved in 5 mins. before show ends, then they have confirmed my total skeptism of pshyics.

[San]

They are doing a final reading at the beach where they think Natalee died.

On her earlier visits to the beach Carla became too upset.  Carla feels the victim present.  She told Patrick to go look at his equipment.  She said Natalee is trying to be there for them and her family.

John is saying Natalee arrive at CnC's and he hears very loud jaring music.  He sees them dancing and he has his hands on her waist.  At some point something strange happens to her.  Something is effecting her and says she was drugged.  He is signaling his ride and we see a guy like Deepak.  He sees a change in him.  He sees their legs and feet.  She is not feeling well and she is trying to shake it off.  He is groping her and his hands are going every where.  He pushed her face down and he lunged at her and he says he see this figure on her and he said he thinks she is raped.

She kept passing out and when he is finished he is unable to get a response from her.  He is nuding her trying to figure out what to do but they can't do that because of what they did.

Carla said they left her there to die for hours.  The came back before morning.  They wrapped her up in something and carried her out.  THey hid the body.  Is this who I think it is who did this.  And some guy who is influencial.

Carla is convinced it was a local boy and a man in power help cover up the crime.

He is giving a description of a person.  This is not a blonde headed boy with blue eyes.  Skinny legs age 20-25.  They identified a suspect.

Commercial.

[truthseeker2]

Okay people...he just described Satish Kalpo, did he not?

[klaasend]

Thanks San

[Dihannah1]

They haven't said anything we didn't already know or suspect.  They didn't have to play the show out this way though.

I was really hoping they would make me a believer!

Hey Red!  What about SM T.V. next!  We can make a documentary and REALLY educate the public!    

I guarentee they would blow away the made for TV show that is coming out about Natalee that garrison is apart of.

When does that come out?  Didn't know they were making one.  Or at least I hadn't heard about it, in along time.....

[BTgirl]

They haven't said anything we didn't already know or suspect.  They didn't have to play the show out this way though.

Adding to the above, whatever their psychic abilities and editors have decided in this case...it follows my beliefs almost to the T.  Psychic abilities or not, they could have gone a different direction with this show and from their investigation of the case didn't.

Klaas - what the psychics are saying agrees very closely with what I've always thought happened. It makes perfect sense to me. I've never been a big proponent of the more complicated theories. He was a dorky 17 yr old boy who drugged and raped a girl, accidentally killed her, then got his daddy to cover it up for him, IMO.

[klaasend]

Okay people...he just described Satish Kalpo, did he not?

Could be

[Frijole]

I'm not sure who he described but I think it is interesting that neither of them have mentioned the 2 in the car that drove with them... it's like there were only 2 the whole time.