Lively Case Discussion #643 6/20 - 6/21/2007

[Dihannah1]

This picture really seems to show the van der sloot hairline coming about. What is LVR in his late twenties now? I recall a picture of Paulus when he was in college , even though he had long hair, he had the start of a receeding hairline, looked very similar. I know there is no actual answer to be found with hashing this out, but to again add my 2 cents. I definately think LVR and PVDS are related, PVDS being his biological  father.

Does this guy look scared to you.  Wasn't he said he was questioned and he was crying like a baby.  Don't look worried to me.  Hey they even gave him a cig.

He's a PUNK!

[wreck]

This picture really seems to show the van der sloot hairline coming about. What is LVR in his late twenties now? I recall a picture of Paulus when he was in college , even though he had long hair, he had the start of a receeding hairline, looked very similar. I know there is no actual answer to be found with hashing this out, but to again add my 2 cents. I definately think LVR and PVDS are related, PVDS being his biological  father.

IMO -- Lorenzo looks more like Paulus than Joran!

[bleachedblack]

Just because her show is a joke and she looked like a complete idiot does not give her the right to come into YOUR house and talk down to you.

But i'll let it go since it sounds like thats what you want.

I think starting at Natalee house was one thing, getting a few articles of clothing was probably important. But when the psychics went to the high school, and the things they said there about Natlalee  that was really was really bad.

[Anna]

I have to laugh every time I see that sketch!  What is the purpose behind it?  Are the two psychics pretending they do not know with whom Natalee left the bar when that was known before Beth ever arrived in Aruba?

So it was the person Natalee left the bar with that killed her and that person has been well known for two years???

He even admits to leaving the bar with her.

So why the sketch?

I must be missing something in the reasoning behind a sketch as though the person Natalee left C&C with is not known.

I think they just took a facial feature from each of the suspects and threw them together so somewhere down the road they can point their finger at it and say SEE, LOOK WE GOT THE DESCRIPTION RIGHT !!

Ah, the I told ya so factor later on!  That's the game.  Well, they certainly made the sketch non-descript enough to cover any one of the suspects.  I agree with your post this morning about it having Joran's fat lips mouth, too.

Yes, this way they can point to a specific feature and say see, we told ya so.

But it makes no sense to have a sketch when the person Natalee left the bar with is well known as in this instance.  It either was the person she left the bar with or it wasn't.  It can't be the person she left the bar with and some bushy haired stranger both.

I also saw someone, I think Sam, post that the psychics confirmed gang rape but I missed that part and only heard Natalee alone on pitch dark beach with the one she left the bar with.

Did I misunderstand that part?

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[Dihannah1]

Just because her show is a joke and she looked like a complete idiot does not give her the right to come into YOUR house and talk down to you.

But i'll let it go since it sounds like thats what you want.

People can respond how they want, life goes on for me.
There is always a danger when you repost other peoples messages.
Believe me I have emailed Carla and told her I thought she was unprofessional. She never responded.

I may email her with more than just about her unproffesionalism!  How dare her!  She doesn't even know you.

[Dihannah1]

Just because her show is a joke and she looked like a complete idiot does not give her the right to come into YOUR house and talk down to you.

But i'll let it go since it sounds like thats what you want.

I think starting at Natalee house was one thing, getting a few articles of clothing was probably important. But when the psychics went to the high school, and the things they said there about Natlalee  that was really was really bad.

That's what I was saying last night.  How could they get "feelings" from Aruba at the High School.   The guys rolling eye balls killed it for me to.

[Dana]

Just because her show is a joke and she looked like a complete idiot does not give her the right to come into YOUR house and talk down to you.

But i'll let it go since it sounds like thats what you want.

People can respond how they want, life goes on for me.
There is always a danger when you repost other peoples messages.
Believe me I have emailed Carla and told her I thought she was unprofessional. She never responded.

I may email her with more than just about her unproffesionalism!  How dare her!  She doesn't even know you.

she has a web site and so does court tv

[Dihannah1]

I have to laugh every time I see that sketch!  What is the purpose behind it?  Are the two psychics pretending they do not know with whom Natalee left the bar when that was known before Beth ever arrived in Aruba?

So it was the person Natalee left the bar with that killed her and that person has been well known for two years???

He even admits to leaving the bar with her.

So why the sketch?

I must be missing something in the reasoning behind a sketch as though the person Natalee left C&C with is not known.

I think they just took a facial feature from each of the suspects and threw them together so somewhere down the road they can point their finger at it and say SEE, LOOK WE GOT THE DESCRIPTION RIGHT !!

Ah, the I told ya so factor later on!  That's the game.  Well, they certainly made the sketch non-descript enough to cover any one of the suspects.  I agree with your post this morning about it having Joran's fat lips mouth, too.

Yes, this way they can point to a specific feature and say see, we told ya so.

But it makes no sense to have a sketch when the person Natalee left the bar with is well known as in this instance.  It either was the person she left the bar with or it wasn't.  It can't be the person she left the bar with and some bushy haired stranger both.

I also saw someone, I think Sam, post that the psychics confirmed gang rape but I missed that part and only heard Natalee alone on pitch dark beach with the one she left the bar with.

Did I misunderstand that part?

.

Good question Anna, I'm not sure either.

[Dihannah1]

Just because her show is a joke and she looked like a complete idiot does not give her the right to come into YOUR house and talk down to you.

But i'll let it go since it sounds like thats what you want.

People can respond how they want, life goes on for me.
There is always a danger when you repost other peoples messages.
Believe me I have emailed Carla and told her I thought she was unprofessional. She never responded.

I may email her with more than just about her unproffesionalism!  How dare her!  She doesn't even know you.

she has a web site and so does court tv

Yes, I followed a link to her MySpace.  She is advertising a chat session on CTV.com next Tues. at 3:00p.  May have to join and have a "talk"    

[blah]

Ah, the I told ya so factor later on!  That's the game.  Well, they certainly made the sketch non-descript enough to cover any one of the suspects.  I agree with your post this morning about it having Joran's fat lips mouth, too.

Yes, this way they can point to a specific feature and say see, we told ya so.

isnt that typically how these psychics typically work?  Subtly extract some information from you and use it later on for that aha moment down the road?

[bleachedblack]

This picture really seems to show the van der sloot hairline coming about. What is LVR in his late twenties now? I recall a picture of Paulus when he was in college , even though he had long hair, he had the start of a receeding hairline, looked very similar. I know there is no actual answer to be found with hashing this out, but to again add my 2 cents. I definately think LVR and PVDS are related, PVDS being his biological  father.

IMO -- Lorenzo looks more like Paulus than Joran!

I agree wreck .
LVR looks in that picture just as I remember AG describing him. "Dark, kinda thin, kinda good looking".  
I mean that is not a description to set-one-apart from many, but when you consider the appearances of Joran and his brothers and their descriptions it is accurate IMO when viewing that pic. Joran =Munster like , very tall, the younger brothers fair.

[blah]

Just because her show is a joke and she looked like a complete idiot does not give her the right to come into YOUR house and talk down to you.

But i'll let it go since it sounds like thats what you want.

People can respond how they want, life goes on for me.
There is always a danger when you repost other peoples messages.
Believe me I have emailed Carla and told her I thought she was unprofessional. She never responded.

I may email her with more than just about her unproffesionalism!  How dare her!  She doesn't even know you.

she has a web site and so does court tv

Yes, I followed a link to her MySpace.  She is advertising a chat session on CTV.com next Tues. at 3:00p.  May have to join and have a "talk"    

 

[San]

Ah, the I told ya so factor later on!  That's the game.  Well, they certainly made the sketch non-descript enough to cover any one of the suspects.  I agree with your post this morning about it having Joran's fat lips mouth, too.

Yes, this way they can point to a specific feature and say see, we told ya so.

isnt that typically how these psychics typically work?  Subtly extract some information from you and use it later on for that aha moment down the road?

I went to a psychic once and she couldn't read me   My life is boring.  And I wasn't giving her any information either.

[bleachedblack]

Just because her show is a joke and she looked like a complete idiot does not give her the right to come into YOUR house and talk down to you.

But i'll let it go since it sounds like thats what you want.

I think starting at Natalee house was one thing, getting a few articles of clothing was probably important. But when the psychics went to the high school, and the things they said there about Natlalee  that was really was really bad.

That's what I was saying last night.  How could they get "feelings" from Aruba at the High School.   The guys rolling eye balls killed it for me to.

I actually liked him better. At least he stayed on camera when he was "getting his vibe" , Carla got "so upset" they had to cut away.

[Anna]

Ah, the I told ya so factor later on!  That's the game.  Well, they certainly made the sketch non-descript enough to cover any one of the suspects.  I agree with your post this morning about it having Joran's fat lips mouth, too.

Yes, this way they can point to a specific feature and say see, we told ya so.

isn't that typically how these psychics typically work?  Subtly extract some information from you and use it later on for that aha moment down the road?

For sure!

I'm just torn  between if it's a good thing that Natalee's investigation got some coverage and the thought they were using it for ratings.

I still think some who were not familiar with the case at all might have picked up an interest if they did not know all those things were already well known for two years.

So in that aspect, I guess it helped.  But I also see once again people using Natalee as a platform or forum for their own advancement and that does get old.

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[blah]

can someone do one of these side by side deals of just pualus and lorenzo?  Preferably with similar profile and/or straight on shots?

[wreck]

Ah, the I told ya so factor later on!  That's the game.  Well, they certainly made the sketch non-descript enough to cover any one of the suspects.  I agree with your post this morning about it having Joran's fat lips mouth, too.

Yes, this way they can point to a specific feature and say see, we told ya so.

isnt that typically how these psychics typically work?  Subtly extract some information from you and use it later on for that aha moment down the road?

I'm reminded of the South Park episode where they crucified "John Edwards." ----

****Easy, didn't you say yesterday that Carla was "embarrassed" by "Patrick" on the show?? .... he was the only one that did not seem "hokey" to me!!

[Rob]

  Oooohhh,  feel better now.  I thought for a second Easy said that.  
Sorry Easy.   It wasn't iticized like her other comments you copied.

That BIOTCH!  We don't want to talk to her!   I will NEVER watch her show again!

I did ask for clarification of who actually said that since as you say, it was not in italics.

I am shocked as well.  I don't think I want anything to do with somebody who is so rude and intolerant of others as that.

Why so nasty I have to wonder!

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Anna-
prolly because I've been slammin' her all day and she could face me so she took it out on Dana...What a lowlife Carla proved to be..

Open message to Carla...I'll debate you anywhere, anytime, any place.. you name the time.. I got a cadre of stats to say you are totally full of crap and I can prove it...

I've been nice so not to disrupt the civil conversation we have here...but the gloves might come off.

I don't expect a reply.

[klaasend]

can someone do one of these side by side deals of just pualus and lorenzo?  Preferably with similar profile and/or straight on shots?

I'll do some side by sides.  Will post in the new thread when I'm done.

[Port Valerie]

Nice attitude, Dana. Thanks for cooling the cage down and not stoking fires.