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Author Topic: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion # 863 1/13/12 - 2/07/12  (Read 263916 times)
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« Reply #800 on: January 31, 2012, 05:13:22 PM »

Forgive the rant, but I'm not done yet.........

Joran's claiming "unfair" he was transferred to a "brutal" prison?    God Forbid!

After all, what could Mary's little angel possibly know about brutality???

As long as he's breathing, he hasn't tasted the brutality he dished out on innocent girls that actually had potential for good in this world. Suffer long, slow and hard, Joran. It's long overdue!
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« Reply #801 on: January 31, 2012, 05:39:00 PM »

Forgive the rant, but I'm not done yet.........

Joran's claiming "unfair" he was transferred to a "brutal" prison?    God Forbid!

After all, what could Mary's little angel possibly know about brutality???

As long as he's breathing, he hasn't tasted the brutality he dished out on innocent girls that actually had potential for good in this world. Suffer long, slow and hard, Joran. It's long overdue!

 

... and as long as Joran van der Sloot is breathing ... his mother has no clue the ongoing h--- that the respective families of Natalee Holloway and Stephany Flores are enduring.

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The Stephany Flores Case

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Re: JORAN VAN DER SLOOT MURDERS AGAIN?
 « Reply #265 on: June 19, 2010, 09:34:10 AM »


Interview with Anita van der Sloot - De Telegraaf - June 19th 2010

The actual interview:

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Anita: I now believe that Joran might have done something to Stephany in Peru. Maybe an act of rage? I don't know. I'm very saddened that that businessman Flores lost his daughter, and I my son. That's the way it feels like."

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8032.msg1164835#msg1164835


The Natalee Holloway Case

Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak
Thursday, June 23, 2005


ANITA VAN DER SLOOT, MOTHER OF DUTCH SUSPECT: It's extremely tough. He's in custody now for 13, 14 days, I think. I have lost count. And I love my child. I believe in him 200 percent. And it's just like a big nightmare. We don't know how to deal with it because you can't deal with it. We think about the family a lot because their life is a nightmare but our life is a nightmare, too.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,160471,00.html
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Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day.  I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me.  It's not easy.  I ask God to help me.
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« Reply #802 on: January 31, 2012, 05:52:47 PM »

Exactly, Janet! Exactly, and thanks for the ready reference! 

Ahhhh......  it's not full blown yet, but isn't it nice to be evaluating the justice befalling Joran, rather than the injustice?   
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« Reply #803 on: January 31, 2012, 07:08:48 PM »

BRISTOL PUBLIC LIBRARY DISCOVERY SERIES SPEAKER, BETH HOLLOWAY

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Contact

Contact: Bristol Public Library, Marketing Director Sarah Hutchinson
Phone: 276-821-6148
E-mail: marketing@bristol-library.org
URL: www.bristol-library.org

http://visitbristoltnva.net/events/details/bristol-public-library-discovery-series-speaker-beth-holloway/1233




OMG!!! That's where I live!!    I'm gonna get to see Beth!!   

Bristol, Kingsport, and Johnson City make up the TriCities.......... I'm in Kingsport, but there's only 15 minutes between all three. I'm off to purchase a ticket!! 

 

 You have to go she is a wonderful person. I had a wonderful time she spent so much time talking with me 
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« Reply #804 on: January 31, 2012, 08:05:34 PM »

BRISTOL PUBLIC LIBRARY DISCOVERY SERIES SPEAKER, BETH HOLLOWAY

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Contact

Contact: Bristol Public Library, Marketing Director Sarah Hutchinson
Phone: 276-821-6148
E-mail: marketing@bristol-library.org
URL: www.bristol-library.org

http://visitbristoltnva.net/events/details/bristol-public-library-discovery-series-speaker-beth-holloway/1233




OMG!!! That's where I live!!    I'm gonna get to see Beth!!   

Bristol, Kingsport, and Johnson City make up the TriCities.......... I'm in Kingsport, but there's only 15 minutes between all three. I'm off to purchase a ticket!! 

 

 You have to go she is a wonderful person. I had a wonderful time she spent so much time talking with me 

Hi Blonde.

 

I am sooo jealous.  A one and one in person with Beth Holloway will happen.  I just feel it.  Maybe a speaking engagement in the Seattle, Washington area?  Maybe the Vancouver, B.C. area?

Janet
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Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day.  I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me.  It's not easy.  I ask God to help me.
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« Reply #805 on: January 31, 2012, 08:30:20 PM »

FLASHBACK

Beth Holloway: From Victim To Victor
A Tale Of Caution And Resiliency Presented To Waterford
5:55am January 14, 2011


Exerpts:

A Life Forever Change

Once Beth Holloway received word later that day that her daughter had not arrived at the airport, panic struck.  “In that moment I got the call that all parents dread the minute our child is born,” Holloway said. “From that day, my life was changed forever.”

And I was in Peace

“After being numb for so many days there was pain now, torturous pain,” she said. "I knew I had to find a place to pray.”  She tracked down a cab, which took her to a chapel. There, Holloway kneeled and begged for answers.  “I know in that moment, Natalee was with God,” Holloway said. “And I (was) in peace.”

Dangerous People and Dangerous Places

“Our children must know their personal safety is up to them,” Holloway said. “(Teenagers are) too old to be guarded by us, but too young not to be reminded that there are dangerous people and dangerous places.”

Hope

“Natalee had real hope,” she said. “The hope that filled her life, now fills mine.”

More:

http://waterford.patch.com/articles/from-victim-to-victor-a-tale-of-caution-and-resiliency


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« Reply #329 on: January 14, 2011, 12:25:56 PM »


I had a wonderful time Beth told me where she was having dinner,it was in a private room with 10 police escorts. I text her I  was there.
Beth ran it where we were sitting grab me & hugged me for ever,she is stunning. a inspiration to all .

When the reporter wanted to interview her she told them talk with Blonde she know as much and sometimes more then I ABOUT THIS CASE...

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9031.msg1290438#msg1290438


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« Reply #325 on: January 14, 2011, 08:54:44 AM »


The presentation last night was amazing.   My co-worker's niece was able to get us in the reserved seating area up front.  Also, anyone in that area was able to go to a reception that followed, so we were able to meet and talk with Beth Holloway! We shared with her who we were and talked about the experience of communicating with the authorities and the translation difficulties as well.  I can only imagine what she had to deal with back in 2005.  Beth seemed to feel thankful that thoughts of Natalee came to mind immediately when the jawbone was found.  It just made her realize that her determination and the help of many others have kept Natalee's story alive and that Natalee is NOT going to be forgotten.  She is absolutely a pillar of strength.  Her presentations should be to a room full of high school students in EVERY town and in EVERY state because the message that she brings.  I am so thankful to have been there.  I also had the pleasure of meeting Blonde and talk with her.  My friends were able to share some information with her as well.  All in all it was a night that I will never forget.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9031.msg1290438#msg1290438
 
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« Reply #807 on: January 31, 2012, 11:00:54 PM »



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 Jimenez believes that the family of the dead girl is responsible for the transfer of Joran. "But we will never prove" concluded the lawyer.


Poor Joran, always the victim!

Hats off to the Flores family!
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« Reply #808 on: February 01, 2012, 12:11:23 AM »



 ::snipping2::
 Jimenez believes that the family of the dead girl is responsible for the transfer of Joran. "But we will never prove" concluded the lawyer.


Poor Joran, always the victim!

Hats off to the Flores family!
Lord.................... and just WHO is responsible for the girl being DEAD????
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ARUBA: It's all about Natalee...we won't give up!


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 ::snipping2::
 Jimenez believes that the family of the dead girl is responsible for the transfer of Joran. "But we will never prove" concluded the lawyer.


Poor Joran, always the victim!

Hats off to the Flores family!

He has had the luxury of breathing in and out for 20 months longer than a lot of people thought he would.

He should be grateful to the Flores family, for their placing his fate in the hands of the Peruvian Judicial system and not taking into their own hands.  After the brutal/inhumane way he stole their only daughter, and knowing that he'd gotten away with murder before and tormented another family for five long years; many (including myself) would have completely "understood" if the monster died in much the same brutal way Stephany did (or worse) before he ever saw a courtroom in Peru. 

If he wants a transfer so bad, send him to Challapalca; maybe then the whining will stop.

 

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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 ::snipping2::
 Jimenez believes that the family of the dead girl is responsible for the transfer of Joran. "But we will never prove" concluded the lawyer.


Poor Joran, always the victim!

Hats off to the Flores family!

He has had the luxury of breathing in and out for 20 months longer than a lot of people thought he would.

He should be grateful to the Flores family, for their placing his fate in the hands of the Peruvian Judicial system and not taking into their own hands.  After the brutal/inhumane way he stole their only daughter, and knowing that he'd gotten away with murder before and tormented another family for five long years; many (including myself) would have completely "understood" if the monster died in much the same brutal way Stephany did (or worse) before he ever saw a courtroom in Peru. 

If he wants a transfer so bad, send him to Challapalca; maybe then the whining will stop.

 

JMO

Or at least maybe no one will be able to hear it!    ::justice2NJ::
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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 ::snipping2::
 Jimenez believes that the family of the dead girl is responsible for the transfer of Joran. "But we will never prove" concluded the lawyer.


Poor Joran, always the victim!

Hats off to the Flores family!
Lord.................... and just WHO is responsible for the girl being DEAD????

Exactly.

I'm so sick of the "Joran is the victim" crap.   
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #812 on: February 01, 2012, 12:23:29 AM »



 ::snipping2::
 Jimenez believes that the family of the dead girl is responsible for the transfer of Joran. "But we will never prove" concluded the lawyer.


Poor Joran, always the victim!

Hats off to the Flores family!

He has had the luxury of breathing in and out for 20 months longer than a lot of people thought he would.

He should be grateful to the Flores family, for their placing his fate in the hands of the Peruvian Judicial system and not taking into their own hands.  After the brutal/inhumane way he stole their only daughter, and knowing that he'd gotten away with murder before and tormented another family for five long years; many (including myself) would have completely "understood" if the monster died in much the same brutal way Stephany did (or worse) before he ever saw a courtroom in Peru. 

If he wants a transfer so bad, send him to Challapalca; maybe then the whining will stop.

 

JMO

Or at least maybe no one will be able to hear it!    ::justice2NJ::
Absolutely!!!!! Actually, I doubt Joran makes it out alive no matter where in Peru he serves. I agree --- it is amazing the Flores family has not had him offed already. I truly believe the Flores family has not done so already because they hold out the SLIM possibility they could help Beth find Natalee by keeping him alive.
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« Reply #813 on: February 01, 2012, 12:30:46 AM »

I hope Urine gets worms.
 

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« Reply #814 on: February 01, 2012, 12:40:05 AM »

I hope Urine gets worms.
 


That cracked me up!! 
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 ::snipping2::
 Jimenez believes that the family of the dead girl is responsible for the transfer of Joran. "But we will never prove" concluded the lawyer.


Poor Joran, always the victim!

Hats off to the Flores family!

He has had the luxury of breathing in and out for 20 months longer than a lot of people thought he would.

He should be grateful to the Flores family, for their placing his fate in the hands of the Peruvian Judicial system and not taking into their own hands.  After the brutal/inhumane way he stole their only daughter, and knowing that he'd gotten away with murder before and tormented another family for five long years; many (including myself) would have completely "understood" if the monster died in much the same brutal way Stephany did (or worse) before he ever saw a courtroom in Peru. 

If he wants a transfer so bad, send him to Challapalca; maybe then the whining will stop.

 

JMO

Or at least maybe no one will be able to hear it!    ::justice2NJ::
Absolutely!!!!! Actually, I doubt Joran makes it out alive no matter where in Peru he serves. I agree --- it is amazing the Flores family has not had him offed already. I truly believe the Flores family has not done so already because they hold out the SLIM possibility they could help Beth find Natalee by keeping him alive.

You're probably right about that Wreck. 

The hope that somehow their loss could help Natalee's family finally have answers. an angelic monkey
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #816 on: February 01, 2012, 12:50:36 AM »

I hope Urine gets worms.
 


That cracked me up!! 

Me too, loved it!   
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #817 on: February 01, 2012, 02:21:35 AM »

http://www.depers.nl/buitenland/627448/Van-der-Sloot-terug-naar-Castro-Castro.html

Google translation

Van der Sloot back to Castro Castro '
Published: Today 2:02
Update: Today 7:05

Joran van der Sloot's lawyer, the Institute of Penitentiary Institutions in Peru, INPE, Van der Sloot asked to return it to the Castro Castro prison. That said his lawyer, Jose Jimenez, Tuesday upon request to the ANP. Van der Sloot after his conviction to another prison.

Jimenez in a letter to the INPE for the transfer request. He argues his request with the fact that Van der Sloot is no danger to other prisoners and the luxuries which the Peruvian television reported not in his cell in the Castro Castro prison were found. In addition, according to INPE Van der Sloot's lawyer may only transfer if the sentence is established. ,, And that's not the case, because we have appealed, "said Jimenez. He expected within ten days of the response INPE.
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The three taxi drivers that Van der Sloot brought to Chile, on Tuesday acquitted of the charge that they have taken to protect him justice. Van der Sloot Monday testified in that case and said he had not told the three that he had slain a man. The same three judges who condemned Van der Sloot, the drivers spoke Friday.
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« Reply #818 on: February 01, 2012, 02:46:39 AM »

http://www.bnr.nl/meernieuws/233618-1202/joran-wil-terug-naar-luxe-cel

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Joran wants to return to 'luxury cell'
By Thijs Boss
February 1, 2012 8:17

Joran wants to go back to the Castro Castro prison. This is his lawyer Jose Jimenez Tuesday reported to the ANP.

Van der Sloot after his conviction was transferred to another prison. Jimenez has now filed a request for transfer to INPE, the Institute of Penitentiary Institutions in Peru, with the support that Van der Sloot is no danger to other prisoners.

Luxury goods
Also reports on Peruvian television on luxury items that Van der Sloot's cell in Castro Castro were found, he refers to the realm of fiction. The lawyer expects to ten days of the INPE answer about a possible return to prison.
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« Reply #819 on: February 01, 2012, 08:44:55 AM »

I LOVE that they are requesting a transfer back to Castro Castro. It tells me that Joran is miserable where he is and that makes me happy! Hey Joran, they don't care how you feel, this isn't Aruba.
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