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Author Topic: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion # 863 1/13/12 - 2/07/12  (Read 366616 times)
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« Reply #480 on: January 23, 2012, 12:43:09 PM »

I started counting how many times Mary says, "Attorney "Ye-ma-nez", and couldn't count that high. Geeez........... personally, I don't think this chick is really upset about the money loss. I think she just wants to get the sentence thrown out. She's making a public declaration that Anita took advantage of her, too? Who asked her to send Anita money in the first place; particularly when Mary says that Anita's response to her was that "Some people aren't for saving!"

Mary's a real piece of work. Here's the video (prolly already posted, but I hadn't seen it):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fau7rc1uSV8

Hadn't seen the video.

She really thinks she's got something there with that JVS.

Dellusional and Dumb! (AND has money!  What a deal for JVS!)

I know, Monkey King. How does he attract them?  I swear, when I watched the video, I had the firm impression that she didn't care about the money as long as it could provide her a tortured argument that it should allow his sentence to be thrown out.

I think he attrracts them because she is just as big of an attention seeker as Joran, maybe even more because she is trying to get her fame and attention via somebody else.

This woman appears to me to be totally about getting her 15+ minutes of fame for her money.  I further think that is why she is angry--she feels she did NOT get enough media coverage for the amount of money she forked over.

Now she can get more, so she thinks, by demanding the money back and raising a big stink about it all.

So--I am going to totally ignore her, lol.  She's garden variety jailhouse groupie.
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« Reply #481 on: January 23, 2012, 12:45:45 PM »

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“Some lives are NOT worth saving,” the heartbroken mother of convicted Dutch thug JORAN van der SLOOT revealed after his sentence was handed down.

 ::snipping2::

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/insider-joran-mom-thinks-he-should-die

If Anita did say this, it sounds as if she finally realized her delicious sporter is the Monster the world knows him to be. 

Now the question is, will she do the right thing, and tell us what she knows about the Natalee Holloway case?

Note to Anita:  You can change your name, but you will always be his mother.  You can't change what he did, but you can change the future for Natalee's loved ones.


It really doesn't sound like Anita at all but then she had totally remade herself in the image of some barfly so who knows?

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« Reply #482 on: January 23, 2012, 12:48:42 PM »

3 dead in Alabama as storms pound South, Midwest
Published January 23, 2012

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« Reply #483 on: January 23, 2012, 12:54:04 PM »

I only want Joran in the U.S.A. if the Peruvian system fails. We treat prisoners too nice here.

Well, there is one federal orison, I think it is in Colorado, where the inmates' doors are opened/closed only electronically and the prisoners hardly ever even see another human being.  I think they get sent there if they are disciplinary problem like Joran.



I think it would be pretty awful to die where one is so totally hated and cursed.  I guess for personal or selfish reasons I just want Alabama to get their hands on him.  I don't think he would be treated very well.
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« Reply #484 on: January 23, 2012, 01:34:36 PM »

Joran wants to be free

 Joran will do everything possible to still be at large. He wants the decision of the Peruvian judge, 28 years in prison, is annulled.

 The Arnhemmer has sent a letter to the Peruvian Supreme Court. Here he writes that 28 years is excessive cell. And according to his lawyer, the confession of the murder of Stephany Flores' never value is estimated.

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http://www.powned.tv/nieuws/buitenland/2012/01/joran_wil_vrij.html
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« Reply #485 on: January 23, 2012, 02:02:30 PM »

Van der Sloot seeks to reduce his conviction to the Supreme Court

 After being sentenced to 28 years in prison for the murder of the young Stephany Flores, Dutchman Joran Van der Sloot appealed his conviction to the Supreme Court.

 According to "RPP Noticias", through his defense, Van der Sloot made ​​a motion to vacate in order to reduce the sentence imposed by the Third Criminal Court for Prison Inmates in which convicted him of aggravated murder and simple theft.

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http://noticias.terra.com.pe/nacional/van-der-sloot-busca-reducir-su-condena-ante-la-corte-suprema,c8feecf3cdb05310VgnVCM3000009af154d0RCRD.html
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« Reply #486 on: January 23, 2012, 02:02:41 PM »

INSIDER: JORAN MOM THINKS HE SHOULD DIE!

“Some lives are NOT worth saving,” the heartbroken mother of convicted Dutch thug JORAN van der SLOOT revealed after his sentence was handed down.

He had listened impassively as he was sentenced to 28 years in prison – but once out of sight of a worldwide television audience Joran exploded in a violent rage.


The 24-year-old convicted murderer struggled with guards, kicked a wall and screamed in anger after learning that he was being immediate­ly transferred to Peru’s toughest prison, leav­ing behind the cushy cell filled with amenities he had bought with bribes.

“Then he turned on his attor­ney, accusing him of letting him down and telling him he had no intention of paying the lawyer’s $4,000 fee,” a source told The ENQUIRER.

 ::snipping2::

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/insider-joran-mom-thinks-he-should-die

Thanks Northern Rose

I do agree with Dave Holloway.  Joran is now beyond rehabilitation.

The National Enquirer?  Have other publications quoted Anita?  Could it be that the foundation of this NE article is based the Mary Hamer "exclusive"interview?  Nevertheless ... there was a time when Anita had the opportunity to "save" her son.  The implication?  Natalee and Stephany would currently be pursuing dreams as their respective families celebrated.
 
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Dave Holloway comments on van der Sloot sentencing
Published: 1/13 4:28 pm Updated: 1/13 4:35 pm


<snipped>

"The guy needs to be taken off the street. Everyone knows his personality. I think that he is beyond rehabilitation at this point," Natalee Holloway's father, Dave said.

<snipped>

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Dave-Holloway-comments-on-van-der-Sloot-sentencing/sDcn_YDR6UquGZRn8JAnag.cspx
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« Reply #487 on: January 23, 2012, 03:00:45 PM »

http://feeds.univision.com/feeds/article/2012-01-23/peru-defensa-de-van-der

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Peru: Van der Sloot Defense challenges 28-year sentence
The Associated Press | Date: 01/23/2012

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The defense lawyer for Van der Sloot, Jose Luis Jiménez, said Monday that last week filed an appeal to quash the sentence imposed abroad on 13 January by the collegiate B of the Third Criminal Court for inmates in jail.

"We see that we could legitimately aspire to a term more beneficial to Joran," Jimenez said in a telephone interview with The Associated Press.

"It has not taken into account the initial confession of Joran Van der Sloot," he added.
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Jimenez said he has until Friday to inform in writing the motion to vacate, after which will be scheduled to present their arguments orally.
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« Reply #488 on: January 23, 2012, 03:11:54 PM »

Van der Sloot appeals 28-year Peru murder sentence as excessive
Updated: Monday, January 23, 11:55 AM


LIMA, Peru — Joran van der Sloot’s attorney says he has appealed his client’s 28-year sentence for murdering a young Peruvian woman he met in a Lima casino.

Attorney Jose Jimenez says the three judges who sentenced Van der Sloot on Jan. 13 did not take into account his client’s initial confession to police.

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Jimenez said Monday that Van der Sloot never denied killing Stephany Flores. Jimenez says the appeal was filed last week.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/americas/van-der-sloot-appeals-28-year-peru-murder-sentence-as-excessive/2012/01/23/gIQAynQYLQ_story.html
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« Reply #489 on: January 23, 2012, 03:19:35 PM »

Joran Van Der Sloot Begs His 'Guardian Angel' For More Money, Read His Handwritten Letter
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 @ 05:30PM


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Later in his handwritten letter he refers to his guilty plea, revealing: "What me and Jimenez did is the best, I now still have my appeal to a higher court, which is much more serious. Every lawyer I speak to agrees."

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http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/01/joran-van-der-sloot-begs-guardian-angel-handwritten-letter

http://www.radaronline.com/sites/radaronline.com/files/Joran-Van-Der-Sloot-Letter-Mary-Hamer.pdf
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« Reply #490 on: January 23, 2012, 03:33:55 PM »

January 23, 2012 19:56 GMT
Van der Sloot appeals sentence in Peru


LIMA, Peru (AP) -- Joran van der Sloot's attorney says he has appealed his client's 28-year sentence for murdering a young Peruvian woman he met in a Lima casino.

Attorney Jose Jimenez says the three judges who sentenced Van der Sloot on Jan. 13 did not take into account his client's initial confession to police.

Jimenez said Monday that Van der Sloot never denied killing Stephany Flores.

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He is at Piedras Gordas prison north of Lima, where his lawyer says he is temporarily segregated from other inmates.

Jimenez says the appeal was filed last week.

http://www.foxbaltimore.com/template/inews_wire/wires.international/2ab99c8c-www.foxbaltimore.com.shtml


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« Reply #491 on: January 23, 2012, 03:50:17 PM »

January 23, 2012 7:46 AM
Survivors sought after deadly storms pound South
(AP)  Updated at 3:03 p.m. ET


CLAY, Ala. - Violent weather including possible tornadoes roared across the heart of Alabama on Monday, killing two people and injuring more than 100 others. Searchers went door-to-door calling out to residents, some of whom lived along a path near the deadly twisters that devastated the area last year.

The storms flattened homes, knocked down trees and peeled off roofs in the middle of the night in the rural community of Oak Grove, which was touched by both storms. The area near Birmingham has a history of being a tornado alley going back decades.

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« Reply #492 on: January 23, 2012, 04:11:53 PM »

January 23, 2012 19:56 GMT
Van der Sloot appeals sentence in Peru


LIMA, Peru (AP) -- Joran van der Sloot's attorney says he has appealed his client's 28-year sentence for murdering a young Peruvian woman he met in a Lima casino.

Attorney Jose Jimenez says the three judges who sentenced Van der Sloot on Jan. 13 did not take into account his client's initial confession to police.

Jimenez said Monday that Van der Sloot never denied killing Stephany Flores.

<snipped>

He is at Piedras Gordas prison north of Lima, where his lawyer says he is temporarily segregated from other inmates.

Jimenez says the appeal was filed last week.

http://www.foxbaltimore.com/template/inews_wire/wires.international/2ab99c8c-www.foxbaltimore.com.shtml




Good grief.  Joran and Jimenez fought to have his initial confession thrown out.

Now they are going to argue that is wasn't taken into consideration enough when he was sentenced.

Whatever.....

They must be desperate to grasp at this straw!  ROTFLMAO!

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« Reply #493 on: January 23, 2012, 04:53:05 PM »

INSIDER: JORAN MOM THINKS HE SHOULD DIE!

“Some lives are NOT worth saving,” the heartbroken mother of convicted Dutch thug JORAN van der SLOOT revealed after his sentence was handed down.

He had listened impassively as he was sentenced to 28 years in prison – but once out of sight of a worldwide television audience Joran exploded in a violent rage.


The 24-year-old convicted murderer struggled with guards, kicked a wall and screamed in anger after learning that he was being immediate­ly transferred to Peru’s toughest prison, leav­ing behind the cushy cell filled with amenities he had bought with bribes.

“Then he turned on his attor­ney, accusing him of letting him down and telling him he had no intention of paying the lawyer’s $4,000 fee,” a source told The ENQUIRER.

 ::snipping2::

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/insider-joran-mom-thinks-he-should-die

Thanks Northern Rose

I do agree with Dave Holloway.  Joran is now beyond rehabilitation.

The National Enquirer?  Have other publications quoted Anita?  Could it be that the foundation of this NE article is based the Mary Hamer "exclusive"interview?  Nevertheless ... there was a time when Anita had the opportunity to "save" her son.  The implication?  Natalee and Stephany would currently be pursuing dreams as their respective families celebrated.
 
Janet

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fau7rc1uSV8


Dave Holloway comments on van der Sloot sentencing
Published: 1/13 4:28 pm Updated: 1/13 4:35 pm


<snipped>

"The guy needs to be taken off the street. Everyone knows his personality. I think that he is beyond rehabilitation at this point," Natalee Holloway's father, Dave said.

<snipped>

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Dave-Holloway-comments-on-van-der-Sloot-sentencing/sDcn_YDR6UquGZRn8JAnag.cspx

On January 13, 2012.  On the Anderson Cooper Show at 13:10 in the YouTube video, Mary says (referring to the e-mail from Anita):  "Good Mary.  Good decision.  It's time to move on.  Some lives are not worth saving!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMiW8E7fcVY&feature=related
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« Reply #494 on: January 23, 2012, 05:06:18 PM »

INSIDER: JORAN MOM THINKS HE SHOULD DIE!

“Some lives are NOT worth saving,” the heartbroken mother of convicted Dutch thug JORAN van der SLOOT revealed after his sentence was handed down.

He had listened impassively as he was sentenced to 28 years in prison – but once out of sight of a worldwide television audience Joran exploded in a violent rage.


The 24-year-old convicted murderer struggled with guards, kicked a wall and screamed in anger after learning that he was being immediate­ly transferred to Peru’s toughest prison, leav­ing behind the cushy cell filled with amenities he had bought with bribes.

“Then he turned on his attor­ney, accusing him of letting him down and telling him he had no intention of paying the lawyer’s $4,000 fee,” a source told The ENQUIRER.

 ::snipping2::

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/insider-joran-mom-thinks-he-should-die

Thanks Northern Rose

I do agree with Dave Holloway.  Joran is now beyond rehabilitation.

The National Enquirer?  Have other publications quoted Anita?  Could it be that the foundation of this NE article is based the Mary Hamer "exclusive"interview?  Nevertheless ... there was a time when Anita had the opportunity to "save" her son.  The implication?  Natalee and Stephany would currently be pursuing dreams as their respective families celebrated.
 
Janet

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Dave Holloway comments on van der Sloot sentencing
Published: 1/13 4:28 pm Updated: 1/13 4:35 pm


<snipped>

"The guy needs to be taken off the street. Everyone knows his personality. I think that he is beyond rehabilitation at this point," Natalee Holloway's father, Dave said.

<snipped>

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Dave-Holloway-comments-on-van-der-Sloot-sentencing/sDcn_YDR6UquGZRn8JAnag.cspx

On January 13, 2012.  On the Anderson Cooper Show at 13:10 in the YouTube video, Mary says (referring to the e-mail from Anita):  "Good Mary.  Good decision.  It's time to move on.  Some lives are not worth saving!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMiW8E7fcVY&feature=related


Now that Mary Hamer's assets and bank accounts are tapped out, it's time to move on?  Didn't I read on here supposedly Mary sent Anita $20,000.00, besides all the money she sent Joran and/or his attorney? 
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« Reply #495 on: January 23, 2012, 05:08:25 PM »

::snipping2::

“Some lives are NOT worth saving,” the heartbroken mother of convicted Dutch thug JORAN van der SLOOT revealed after his sentence was handed down.

 ::snipping2::

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/insider-joran-mom-thinks-he-should-die

If Anita did say this, it sounds as if she finally realized her delicious sporter is the Monster the world knows him to be. 

Now the question is, will she do the right thing, and tell us what she knows about the Natalee Holloway case?

Note to Anita:  You can change your name, but you will always be his mother.  You can't change what he did, but you can change the future for Natalee's loved ones.


It really doesn't sound like Anita at all but then she had totally remade herself in the image of some barfly so who knows?



I don't believe for one minute that Anita is heartbroken or has given up on Joran.  He had the "new" Anita picture on his phone.  They both blame others for their situation.  They are both full of anger. 
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« Reply #496 on: January 23, 2012, 05:10:36 PM »

INSIDER: JORAN MOM THINKS HE SHOULD DIE!

“Some lives are NOT worth saving,” the heartbroken mother of convicted Dutch thug JORAN van der SLOOT revealed after his sentence was handed down.

He had listened impassively as he was sentenced to 28 years in prison – but once out of sight of a worldwide television audience Joran exploded in a violent rage.


The 24-year-old convicted murderer struggled with guards, kicked a wall and screamed in anger after learning that he was being immediate­ly transferred to Peru’s toughest prison, leav­ing behind the cushy cell filled with amenities he had bought with bribes.

“Then he turned on his attor­ney, accusing him of letting him down and telling him he had no intention of paying the lawyer’s $4,000 fee,” a source told The ENQUIRER.

 ::snipping2::

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/insider-joran-mom-thinks-he-should-die

Thanks Northern Rose

I do agree with Dave Holloway.  Joran is now beyond rehabilitation.

The National Enquirer?  Have other publications quoted Anita?  Could it be that the foundation of this NE article is based the Mary Hamer "exclusive"interview?  Nevertheless ... there was a time when Anita had the opportunity to "save" her son.  The implication?  Natalee and Stephany would currently be pursuing dreams as their respective families celebrated.
 
Janet

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Mary Hamer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fau7rc1uSV8


Dave Holloway comments on van der Sloot sentencing
Published: 1/13 4:28 pm Updated: 1/13 4:35 pm


<snipped>

"The guy needs to be taken off the street. Everyone knows his personality. I think that he is beyond rehabilitation at this point," Natalee Holloway's father, Dave said.

<snipped>

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Dave-Holloway-comments-on-van-der-Sloot-sentencing/sDcn_YDR6UquGZRn8JAnag.cspx

On January 13, 2012.  On the Anderson Cooper Show at 13:10 in the YouTube video, Mary says (referring to the e-mail from Anita):  "Good Mary.  Good decision.  It's time to move on.  Some lives are not worth saving!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMiW8E7fcVY&feature=related


Now that Mary Hamer's assets and bank accounts are tapped out, it's time to move on?  Didn't I read on here supposedly Mary sent Anita $20,000.00, besides all the money she sent Joran and/or his attorney? 

Mary Hamer, as a radiologis,t is NOT broke.  Not only that, she will have retirement on our tax money (I believe she is currently working at the VA).
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« Reply #497 on: January 23, 2012, 05:18:12 PM »

January 23, 2012 19:56 GMT
Van der Sloot appeals sentence in Peru


LIMA, Peru (AP) -- Joran van der Sloot's attorney says he has appealed his client's 28-year sentence for murdering a young Peruvian woman he met in a Lima casino.

Attorney Jose Jimenez says the three judges who sentenced Van der Sloot on Jan. 13 did not take into account his client's initial confession to police.

Jimenez said Monday that Van der Sloot never denied killing Stephany Flores.

<snipped>

He is at Piedras Gordas prison north of Lima, where his lawyer says he is temporarily segregated from other inmates.

Jimenez says the appeal was filed last week.

http://www.foxbaltimore.com/template/inews_wire/wires.international/2ab99c8c-www.foxbaltimore.com.shtml



Maybe Joran did not deny the words in his confession but ... he did attempt to have it thrown out twice citing technicalities nevertheless.

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Joran Van der Sloot Files Complaint Against Peruvian Police … My Rights Were Violated, They Seized by Laptop

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Joran Van der Sloot is now claiming that his rights were violated and has filed a complaint against the Peruvian police. Van der Sloot claims that he was denied due process, that evidence was improperly seized and he was denied a proper translator.

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Posted June 24, 2010 by Scared Monkeys

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2010/06/24/joran-van-der-sloot-files-complaint-against-peruvian-police-my-rights-were-violated-they-seized-by-laptop/


BREAKING NEWS: Judge Makes Ruling in the Joran van der Sloot Peru Murder Case
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According to CNN reporters in Lima, the Supreme Court Judge has just ruled that there is NO MERIT to Joran’s complaint that his rights were violated!

There is NO MERIT to his COMPLAINT!

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Posted June 25, 2010 by Klaasend

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2010/06/25/breaking-news-judge-makes-ruling-in-the-joran-van-der-sloot-peru-murder-case/


Peruvian Appeals Panel Considers Joran van der Sloot’s Murder Confession of Stefany Flores

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A panel of Peruvian judges is reviewing Van der Sloot’s original appeal to have his confession upheld.

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Posted August 22, 2010 by Scared Monkeys

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2010/08/22/peruvian-appeals-panel-considers-joran-van-der-sloots-murder-confession-of-stefany-flores/


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« Reply #498 on: January 23, 2012, 05:23:45 PM »

INSIDER: JORAN MOM THINKS HE SHOULD DIE!

“Some lives are NOT worth saving,” the heartbroken mother of convicted Dutch thug JORAN van der SLOOT revealed after his sentence was handed down.

He had listened impassively as he was sentenced to 28 years in prison – but once out of sight of a worldwide television audience Joran exploded in a violent rage.


The 24-year-old convicted murderer struggled with guards, kicked a wall and screamed in anger after learning that he was being immediate­ly transferred to Peru’s toughest prison, leav­ing behind the cushy cell filled with amenities he had bought with bribes.

“Then he turned on his attor­ney, accusing him of letting him down and telling him he had no intention of paying the lawyer’s $4,000 fee,” a source told The ENQUIRER.

 ::snipping2::

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/insider-joran-mom-thinks-he-should-die

Thanks Northern Rose

I do agree with Dave Holloway.  Joran is now beyond rehabilitation.

The National Enquirer?  Have other publications quoted Anita?  Could it be that the foundation of this NE article is based the Mary Hamer "exclusive"interview?  Nevertheless ... there was a time when Anita had the opportunity to "save" her son.  The implication?  Natalee and Stephany would currently be pursuing dreams as their respective families celebrated.
 
Janet

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Mary Hamer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fau7rc1uSV8


Dave Holloway comments on van der Sloot sentencing
Published: 1/13 4:28 pm Updated: 1/13 4:35 pm


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"The guy needs to be taken off the street. Everyone knows his personality. I think that he is beyond rehabilitation at this point," Natalee Holloway's father, Dave said.

<snipped>

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Dave-Holloway-comments-on-van-der-Sloot-sentencing/sDcn_YDR6UquGZRn8JAnag.cspx

On January 13, 2012.  On the Anderson Cooper Show at 13:10 in the YouTube video, Mary says (referring to the e-mail from Anita):  "Good Mary.  Good decision.  It's time to move on.  Some lives are not worth saving!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMiW8E7fcVY&feature=related


Now that Mary Hamer's assets and bank accounts are tapped out, it's time to move on?  Didn't I read on here supposedly Mary sent Anita $20,000.00, besides all the money she sent Joran and/or his attorney?
 

Mary Hamer discusses moneys sent to Anita/Joran/attorney in what she references an "exclusive" interview.

Janet

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Mary Hamer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fau7rc1uSV8
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« Reply #499 on: January 23, 2012, 05:49:58 PM »

I don't believe for one minute that Anita is heartbroken or has given up on Joran.  He had the "new" Anita picture on his phone.  They both blame others for their situation.  They are both full of anger. 

Do Dutch widows routinely change their name back to a version of their maiden name?

Who does she blame for Paulus's untimely death?  Joran or the Holloways and the court of public opinion?

I wonder what those who criticized Natalee's loved ones for drinking are thinking about Anita's new pasttime?
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