Lively Case Discussion #647 6/25 - 6/26/2007

[msmarple]

Good morning Tiger. Good to see you back. Look forward to details of The Trip.

Off to scan for murder & mayhem on Aruba.

[tcumom]

OT but concerning Texas EquuSearch:

I read an obituary today in the Austin American-Statesman about a husband and wife that died in a boating accident.  In lieu of flowers, the family requested that donations be made to Texas EquuSearchor to a church named in the obituary.  I wonder if EquuSearch helped in the recovery.  It's great that the family suggested a donation to such a wonderful group, to help others.

Hi Muffy ~ catching up from last night, so probably been answered.  But, yes, they did help in that search.....I saw the write-up in the Statesman also.

[Anna]

Good morning Tiger. Good to see you back. Look forward to details of The Trip.

Off to scan for murder & mayhem on Aruba.

Good Morning, Monkeys!


MsMarple,

I asked Klaas to add the photos for the beating up of the tourist you posted yesterday.  I don't know how to move them and didn't want them to be removed from that website before we captured them for the M&C Thread.

Wish we had more translations of some of those articles!

.

[msmarple]

This is in Monday's (6/25) Diario.

http://www.diario-aruba.com/2007/6/25/

Gang di Santa Cruz a demostra magnitud violencia
Aruba den estado di alarma!
 
*Crimen organiza ta peor cu casonan individual
*A permiti scarcedad Polis alcanza 166!

ORANJESTAD (AAN) — Polis a adverti pa loke ta pasando. Gobierno no a haci caso pero cu un sonrisa Ministro di Husticia a deshaci di e alarma cu Polis a bati lunanan pasa. Awor Aruba ta biba den estado di alarma, despues cu no e gangnan cu tabata conoci pero un gang cu a ranca sali inesperadamente ta pone Aruba biba den estado di alarma.

E irresponsabilidad grandi di Gobierno, cu a gasta placa pa loco ariba celebracionnan, viahenan y tur loke por a causa un buraco grandi mientras ta ricibi BBO, ta resalta den e hecho cu e promer necesidadnan di Aruba no a worde cubri. A permiti e scarcedad di Polis alcanza 166 manera Ministro di Husticia mes a bisa y ta 15 e por tuma den servicio. Con Polis, manera Diasabra anochi por sigui traha den e situacion actual, mientras Pueblo ta biba den gara di miedo pa violencia, no ta conoci. DIARIO a worde mustra ariba e gran realidad: criminalidad di Aruba no ta asunto mas di casonan individual manera pelea, pero Aruba a conoce e peligro mas grandi cu ta crimen organiza, mas dificil pa combati ora permitie haya raiz!

For di temporada di Carnaval, Polis a haci su trabao di mustra Gobierno cu situacion ta sali for di man. Ministro di Husticia a haci bofon di e informacion cu el a ricibi y cu hendenan, cu manera semper tin pa sostene loke gobernantenan kier pretende, a produci supuesto cifra pa mustra cu ta algun crimen chikito so Aruba conoce.

Awor cu e bom a rementa den man di Ministro di Husticia, cu aparicion di un gang sumamente peligroso, cu ningun hende tabata sabi cu ta existi na Santa Cruz, Polis y ciudadanonan mester paga pe.

DIARIO ta worde inunda cu personanan cu ta acerca DIARIO pa mustra nan preocupacion grandi y e impacto cu e situacion actual tin den nan bida. Mayornan tin miedo pa muchanan bandona cas, pa nada no pasa.

“Mi yiu semper tabata bay cu su amigonan. Awor no ta bay trip mas. Mi no por relaha te ora tur hende ta na cas,” un mayor preocupa a duna di conoce. E hecho cu Diasabra a pone henter un shift di Polis keda na trabao pa por evita otro explosion di violencia, a causa mas panico den Pueblo. Mas ainda pasobra ningun hende tabata prepara pa e violencia cu a manifesta su mes y demostra cu tin gang sumamente peligroso.

“Bo ta tende di gang. Bo ta kere cu ta hobennan cu ta enfrenta otro. Pero tira otro, horta auto di Polis, hasta bay kima auto den cura di Centro di Husticia, ta algo hororoso,” un ciudadano a mustra. E ta uno di e grupo grandi cu ta teme pa nan bienestar personal, mas ainda pasobra no tin placa pa paga loke normalmente ta yuda evita criminalidad bati na bo porta.

“Electricidad a bira caro. Bo no por cende luz manera bo kier. Gastonan ta enorme. Hende cu bon entrada so por tin un sistema di alarma. Bo ta sinti bo insigur den caya y insigur na cas,” un ciudadano a bisa.

Mientrastanto Gobierno lo mester percura pa aumenta e cantidad di Polis. E total di 15 cu kier tuma den servicio, lo no alivia e situacion grave. Pueblo ta fada di scucha con Gobierno ta abusa di placa, manera e viahe di Nelson Oduber pa China. “Cada rato uno a bay otro lugar. Chofer. Bodyguard. Coordinador. Oficina. Y Pueblo nada,” a worde mustra na DIARIO.

Den tur bario awor ta existi e temor cuanto gangnan scondi tin y kende ta duna nan yudanza. Hobennan ariba nan mes, no tin placa pa arma. Kico ta pasa na Aruba? Di un dia pa otro e isla ta den un estado di alarma, cu por a preveni si Gobierno a actua na tempo, manera a mustra DIARIO.

Online Pap translation:

gang of santa cruz owing to demostra magnitud violencia
aruba in estado of alarma!
*crimen organiza is worse cu casonan individual
*a permiti scarcedad police alcanza 166!

oranjestad (aan) — police owing to adverti for thing is pasando. gobierno not owing to haci caso but cu one smile ministro of husticia owing to deshaci of the alarma cu police owing to beat lunanan happen. now aruba live in estado of alarma, after cu not the gangnan cu was conoci but one gang cu owing to ranca leave unexpectedly is place aruba live in estado of alarma.

the irresponsabilidad big of gobierno, cu owing to spend coin for loco upstairs celebracionnan, viahenan y all thing can owing to cause one buraco big while is ricibi bbo, is resalta in the mature cu the previous to necesidadnan of aruba not owing to worde cubri. owing to permiti the scarcedad of police alcanza 166 as ministro of husticia self owing to tell y is 15 the can take in servicio. con police, as saturday night can follow work in the situation actual, while people live in grab of fright for violencia, do not conoci. daily paper owing to worde show upstairs the great realidad: criminalidad of aruba do not asunto more of casonan individual as action, but aruba owing to conoce the danger more big cu is crimen organiza, more dificil for combati hour permitie achieve raiz!

for of season of carnaval, police owing to haci his trabao of show gobierno cu situation is leave for of hand. ministro of husticia owing to haci bofon of the informacion cu past owing to ricibi y cu hendenan, cu as always have for sostene thing gobernantenan wanted pretende, owing to produci supuesto cifra for show cu is some crimen diminutive only aruba conoce.

now cu the bom owing to rementa in hand of ministro of husticia, cu aparicion of one gang extremely dangerous, cu none person was know cu is existi at santa cruz, police y ciudadanonan have to pay pe.

daily paper is worde inunda cu personanan cu is acerca daily paper for show they preocupacion big y the impacto cu the situation actual have in they life. parents have fright for children bandona cas, for nothing not happen.

“mi child always was bay cu his amigonan. now do not bay trip more. my not can relaha till hour everybody is at home,” one parent preocupa owing to give of conoce. the mature cu saturday owing to place all one shift of police stay at trabao for can evita another explosion of violencia, owing to cause more panico in people. more still because none person was prepara for her violencia cu owing to manifesta his self y demostra cu have gang extremely dangerous.

“bo is hear of gang. are you believe cu is hobennan cu is enfrenta another. but throw another, steal car of police, even bay burn car in cura of centro of husticia, is algo hororoso,” one ciudadano owing to show. the is uno of the are big cu is teme for they bienestar personal, more still because not have coin for pay thing ordinarily is help evita criminalidad beat at do you door.

“electricidad owing to become caro. do you not can light luz as do you wanted. gastonan is enormous. person cu good entrance only can have one sistema of alarma. are you feel do you insigur in caya y insigur at home,” one ciudadano owing to tell.

all the time gobierno will have to percura for aumenta the cantidad of police. the overall of 15 cu wanted take in servicio, will not alivia the situation important. people is fada of listen con gobierno is abusa of coin, as the viahe of nelson oduber for china. “cada rato uno owing to bay another lugar. chofer. bodyguard. coordinador. office. y people nothing,” owing to worde show at daily paper.

In all district now is existi the temor cuanto gangnan scondi have y that is give they yudanza. hobennan upstairs they self, not have coin for arm. kico is happen at aruba? of one day for another the island is in one estado of alarma, cu can owing to preveni if gobierno owing to actua at time, as owing to show daily paper.

[msmarple]

http://www.diario-aruba.com/2007/6/25/  06/25/2007

3 LUNA CONDICIONAL, PA TIRA MOLOTOV COCKTAIL FALSO  
 
ORANJESSTAD(AAN): Recientemente Andre Samuel Saladin a presenta dilanti di huez, despues cu el a wordo acusa di a menaza un famia. Ta asina cu e acusacion ta encera cu na April 2007, Saladin a tira algo cu mester tabata parce un Molotov cocktail den cura di hende. E acusado a bisa den corte cu el a yena un botter di cerbez cu awa y a pone un pida camisa den e botter, pa gaña hasi manera e tabata un Molotov Cocktail.

El a splica cu e tabata tin sospecho cu e persona cu lo ta biba na e caso ey, a duna su sobrina un pildo, pa despues probecha di dje sexualmente. Saladin a splica cu e tabata bao di influencia di alcohol y e tabata convenci cu un persona bibando na e cas a viola su sobrina.

Fiscal a pidi un castigo di 6 luna, kitando e 10 dianan cu el a sinta caba den detencion preventivo. E tempo cu resta mester bira un castigo condicional. Ademas di esaki e ta haya cu e acusado mester paga un multa di 1500 florin, of sinta 30 dia den KIA.

Huez a trece dilanti e strafblad di Saladin cu tabata tin varios castigo di ladronicia na Hulanda y un castigo condicional pa intento di maltrato severo na Aruba. For di chikito Saladin a cuminza uza marihuana, despues di cual el a uza tambe ecstasy y cocaina.

Abogado Vito Carlo defendiendo e acusado a bisa huez cu e ta haya cu Ministerio Publico a actua contra derechonan di su cliente, door cu nan a tene 10 dia deteni, sin cu esaki tabata necesario. Saladin a admiti loke el a hasi y durante e 10 dianan nan no a hasi ningun investigacion mas den e caso aki, pues nan por a lage bay mas lihe.

Mirando esaki el a pidi huez pa declara e O.M “niet ontvankelijk”, pues pa laga su cliente bay, liber di acusacion. Fiscal a trece dilanti cu si bo kier pa Ministerio Publico wordo declara “niet ontvankelijk”, mester bin cu motibonan huridico bon splica.

Huez den su veredicto a tene cuento cu loke abogado y fiscal a trece dilanti y a duna Saladin un castigo di 3 luna kitando e tempo sinta caba. E tempo cu resta ta bira un castigo condicional. Ademas di esaki e mester paga un multa di 750 florin, of sinta 15 dia na KIA.

Online Pap translation:

3 month condicional, for throw molotov cocktail false

oranjesstad(aan): recientemente andre samuel saladin owing to present fast of huez, after cu past owing to wordo acusa of owing to menaza one family. is so cu the acusacion is encera cu at april 2007, saladin owing to throw algo cu have to was seems one molotov cocktail in cura of person. the acusado owing to tell in corte cu past owing to fill one botter of cerbez cu water y owing to place one piece camisa in the botter, for lie make as the was one molotov cocktail.

past owing to splica cu the was have suspicion cu the person cu will live at the caso ey, owing to give his sobrina one pill, for after probecha of dje sexualmente. saladin owing to splica cu the was bao of influencia of alcohol y the was convenci cu one person bibando at the cas owing to viola his sobrina.

fiscal owing to ask one castigo of 6 month, kitando the 10 dianan cu past owing to sit end in detencion preventivo. the time cu be kept in have to become one castigo condicional. apart from this the is achieve cu the acusado have to pay one multa of 1500 guilder, or sit 30 day in kia.

huez owing to trece fast the strafblad of saladin cu was have several castigo of ladronicia at the netherlands y one castigo condicional for attempt of maltrato severo at aruba. for of diminutive saladin owing to cuminza employ marihuana, after of cual past owing to employ also ecstasy y cocaina.

advocate vito carlo defendiendo the acusado owing to tell huez cu the is achieve cu ministerio publico owing to actua contra derechonan of his cliente, door cu they owing to as 10 day deteni, without cu this was necesario. saladin owing to admiti thing past owing to make y during the 10 dianan they not owing to make none investigacion more in the caso here, then they can owing to lage bay more lihe.

mirando this past owing to ask huez for declara the or.m “niet ontvankelijk”, then for let his cliente bay, pound of acusacion. fiscal owing to trece fast cu if do you wanted for ministerio publico wordo declara “niet ontvankelijk”, have to come cu motibonan huridico good splica.

huez in his veredicto owing to as cuento cu thing advocate y fiscal owing to trece fast y owing to give saladin one castigo of 3 month kitando the time sit end. the time cu be kept in is become one castigo condicional. apart from this the have to pay one multa of 750 guilder, or sit 15 day at kia.

* * *
This sort of sounds like 3 months probation and fine of 750 guilders for throwing an apparent fake Molotov cocktail at someone.

I am wondering if Andre Samuel Saladin is Michael Saladin's son?

Also wondering if Michael is still in jail?

[Rob]

OT but concerning Texas EquuSearch:

I read an obituary today in the Austin American-Statesman about a husband and wife that died in a boating accident.  In lieu of flowers, the family requested that donations be made to Texas EquuSearchor to a church named in the obituary.  I wonder if EquuSearch helped in the recovery.  It's great that the family suggested a donation to such a wonderful group, to help others.

Hi Muffy ~ catching up from last night, so probably been answered.  But, yes, they did help in that search.....I saw the write-up in the Statesman also.

tcumom-
I saw this on the TES site last week... this must be the people you are referring to.

[Anna]

MsMarple,

What on earth is going on in Aruba?  Sounds like gangs out of control, resodents in fear, state of emergency, pills for sexualamente, total chaos!

     

[tcumom]

OT but concerning Texas EquuSearch:

I read an obituary today in the Austin American-Statesman about a husband and wife that died in a boating accident.  In lieu of flowers, the family requested that donations be made to Texas EquuSearchor to a church named in the obituary.  I wonder if EquuSearch helped in the recovery.  It's great that the family suggested a donation to such a wonderful group, to help others.

Hi Muffy ~ catching up from last night, so probably been answered.  But, yes, they did help in that search.....I saw the write-up in the Statesman also.

tcumom-
I saw this on the TES site last week... this must be the people you are referring to.

yes, that's it.  too, too sad.

[Lala'sMom]

MsMarple,

What on earth is going on in Aruba?  Sounds like gangs out of control, resodents in fear, state of emergency, pills for sexualamente, total chaos!

     

Just your typical day on One Crappy Island.  

[Anna]

I sure hope Easy is not going to be too disappointed if he missed the release of Paris Hilton from jail during the night!  

[Lala'sMom]

Yes, alas, Paris is out of the Big House.  Maybe Easy will get an invitation to the Get out of Jail party that I am cure will take place in the next few days.

[Lala'sMom]

Heading out to water some plants...not that it will do much good anymore.  I have lost one of my Japanese Maples and a dogwood so far. Still watering, but it's no substitute for Mother Nature's rain.


Let's keep Sunfreak in our prayers today, isn't today the day she is having surgery?  I may have the days confused.  BBL...I may even tango too.

[klaasend]

Just posted on the front page of SM:

Name: minnesota dad
Date: June 26, 2007, 10:27 am

I have always maintained that this crime was simple. The cover-up was the complex problem - coached suspects (J2K) giving multiple stories is a tactic known to defense attorneys in order to cloud the case up as much as possible.

This is the case in a nutshell:
J2K pick up Natalee at CnC’s. They take her to #19 Montana, the Sloot compound (I come to this conclusion based on Joran’s statements - his first statement was the HI drop off - his second statement was the THREE of them took her back to his home…this statement was made at the same time of the confession that ’something bad happened’ - when the ’something bad happened’ was reversed by Joran’s handlers, the new story was that he dropped her off at the beach). Paulus was present at the compound. THEY NEVER, EVER bring Natalee into Joran’s apartment but rather carry on poolside.

From 1:00am to 3:00am the THREE are joined by Freddy, Guido, Koen and possibly other “pimps” for a gang rape at the Sloot compound. Joran has already confessed that he was raping her while she fell in and out of consciousness. Natalee fights, as evident by scratches described by witnesses on Guido and Joran. Approximately 3 am, something bad does happen - she is non-responsive…maybe from drugs…more likely from being smacked hard after scratching Guido and Joran. She is taken into the main Van Der Sloot compound and placed on a mattress. Paulus sends everyone home. Natalee is alive, but in very serious shape - from the drugs, being raped, and heavy battery.

Approximately 3:30am, after Joran has searched the Internet for a half hour, Joran and Paulus load the gravely injured Natalee into the car and head off to the ATM machine and Lorenzo’s. Lorenzo is asked to take care of her.

Perhaps she was dead during this time, but my guess is that she was passed to Lorenzo in a seriously messed up state. I base this on 1) Satish Kalpoe asking, “how’s the girl”, 2) Joran bragging about his sexual exploits with her at school the next day (psychopath or not, I believe he would be smart enough to not brag about a girl he murdered), 3) Dennis Jacobs confidently recommending that Dave Holloway sit back, she will turn up in a few days (once recovered from the assault and rape that occured).

The evidence of the pass on to Lorenzo is that Joran boarded the bus near Lorenzo’s property at 6:50am on the morning of Natalee’s disappearance.

In the meantime, the media and the Holloway/Twittys come to the island. Now, if Natalee was alive (which upon analyzing everything…it is very possible — but near death), they had a huge problem….releasing her at a crack house or other place would DEVASTATE tourism as FOXNews and everyone else would be reporting how she was kidnapped, drugged, and raped by the island’s elite Dutch children.

The decision was made to disappear Natalee Holloway (either living or if she died somewhere between 3:00am and 6:30am during the transfer to Lorenzo). This is where Natalee’s life had to be taken and her “disappeared” in order to not harm tourism on the island. This explains PVDS’ “No body - no crime” statement. This also explains Deepaks police car comment, “If they find the girl they will find the chit” and Joran’s response, “I will laugh if they find the girl”.

What better place to take ‘the girl’ then to an ‘untouchable’ property on the island? They needed to get her out of the VDS compound ASAP, as they knew that there would be a search in the immediate hours after it was discovered that Natalee did not make her flight.

It is very clear that Paulus and his compound were center to this case based on 1) Paulus clearly coaching the witnesses and interfering with the investigation (per Karin Janssen), 2) the blood soaked mattress and the furniture truck arriving to deliver furniture, 3) the intentional interference in the search of #19 Montana through Judge Bob Wit and Ben Vocking restricting the search to Joran’s apartment only, 4) Paulus filing with the Aruban courts to not allow the FBI to have any jurisdiction or to provide any independant searches (why have people involved that would actually solve the crime?).

What we do know, is that there are witness statements that PVDS was out with JVDS and Natalee at 4:00am. We also early on were told that there was an ATM transaction at this time. We also know that Joran picked up his bus to school near Lorenzo’s home. A dead or gravely injured Natalee was taken to Lorenzo’s. Based on the assault of Guido and Joran, she was badly hurt (remember, she fell and hit her head several times when dropped off at the Holiday Inn!).

So there you have it. Very simple and not muddied and complex as a defense attorney, Paulus, would like you to believe. Here are my opinions on the charges:

Deepak Kalpoe - Accessory to kidnap, rape, and murder
Satish Kalpoe - Accessory to Kidnap, rape, and murder
Joran Van Der Sloot - Kidnap, Rape, heavy battery, and accessory to murder. Providing False witness statements in a criminal investigation.
Guido Wever - Rape, heavy battery, and accessory to murder
Paulus Van Der Sloot - Accessory to kidnap and murder. In addition, Paulus provided false witness statements (the 6/16/2007 vanished witness statement) and interfered with a criminal investigation. Racketeering. Transporting and accessory in the disposal of a body.
Lorenzo - Accessory to murder and transporting/disposal of a body.

No one was ever at a beach where tennis shoes stolen from the lost and found at the racquet club were conveniently placed by Guido and Joran. No one was ever at the lighthouse…where the exact belt, that Joran was strangling a friend on his MySpace account, was found. These were plants to muddy the case.

Yes, it was all in plain view. Now, please KLPD. End this case….I am very, very tired of doing your work for you.

md

[msmarple]

http://www.diario-aruba.com/2007/6/26/    06/26/2007

VICTIMA DI TIRAMENTO A PERDE UN NIER
 
ORANJESTAD(AAN):Keto bay dokternan ta trahando duro pa scapa bida di e hoben cu a ser tira algun dia pasa na Sta Cruz.

E hobennan aki a ser tira pa e hoben Edmond Lo-A-Njoe na Macuarima. Su situacion tabata hopi serio pasobra el a haya tiro den barica cu a haci daño na diferente parti di su curpa.

El a bora su tripa, higra, ader mayor y nier. Na mas cu un occasion dokternan mester a drenta sala di operacion despues cu e victima a ser interna pa bringa y trata na scapa su bida.

E siman aki a habri y atrobe e victima ta den noticia pasobra el a perde un nier. Aki tambe sangramento interno a causa cu el a hera fayece.

Expertonan medico di Dr Horacio Oduber Hospital ta den un lucha formal pa evita cu e hoben aki por perde su bida.

E ta den cuido intensivo y critico unda no ta mira un mehoracion tampoco. Spera cu Dios ilumina e mannan di e dokternan pa asina nan por logra trece e stabilidad necesario pa bida di e hoben aki.

Online Pap translation:

victima of tiramento owing to lose one nier

oranjestad(aan):keto bay dokternan is trahando duro for scapa life of the young cu owing to being throw some day happen at sta cruz.

the hobennan here owing to being throw for her young edmond lo-a-njoe at macuarima. his situation was much earnest because past owing to achieve tiro in barica cu owing to haci damage at various part of his curpa.

past owing to bore his intestines, liver, vein parent y nier. at more cu one occasion dokternan have to owing to enter sitting-room of operacion after cu the victima owing to being interna for fight y deal at scapa his life.

the week here owing to open y again the victima is in news because past owing to lose one nier. here also sangramento inner owing to cause cu past owing to hera fayece.

expertonan medico of dr horacio oduber hospital is in one struggle serious for evita cu the young here can lose his life.

the is in cuido intensivo y critico where do not see one mehoracion niether. wait for cu god ilumina the hands of the dokternan for so they can succeed trece the stabilidad necesario for life of the young here.

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Net e ciudadano kende semper a boga pa mihor servicio di Ambulans na Aruba...
SCARCEDAD DI AMBULANS A RESULTA FATAL PA CAPITAN MEDINA
 
ORANJESTAD (AAN): E momento a yega pa algo worde haci! Tin di cuminza for di paden di e nucleo y bin pafo. Den seno di Salubridad Publico tin di worde haci un investigacion pa pone Minister responsible pa negligencia, cu Diadomingo no tabatin ambulans disponible pa un situacion serio. No por ta asina cu pa motibo cu no tin ambulans disponible, debi cu e tabata ocupa cu un otro transporte... no por a haya servicio di ambulans pa bay cu urgencia pa salba bida di un ciudadano kende a confronta problema na Boca Catalina.

Tabata un unidad di Polis cu ta pasando altura di Boca Catalina a worde para. Aki a bin tende cu un homber kende tabata snorkel den e area, diripiente a haya problema cu salud.

Polis mesora a cuminza pidi pa un Ambulans. Aki e contesta a bin cu a laga hopi hende babuca. Ta un solo Ambulans tabatin pa sirbi 100.000 habitante. anto e no por duna asistencia e momento ey na Boca Catalina.

Esaki ta exactamente loke algun turista recien a reclama caba. Nan ta haya cu e area mas panort di Aruba, mester ricibi sikiera un Police-Station y un Ambulance-Station pa yudanza mas rapido. No a keda otro alternativa pa yama pidi yudanza di un compania particular. Un personal di EMS kende tabata riba caya, a ricibi yamada y a acudi cu urgencia cu su equiponan pa cuminza traha.

Mientras tanto, esnan na tera a logra trece e homber na canto y a cuminza practica CPR riba dje. Esnan cu e momento ta na e lugar di e sucedido tabata basta rabia pa e sistema di Siglo 21 na Aruba, esta cu no tabata tin ambulans disponible den un caso di urgencia. Ora cu e ambulans particular a presenta tur cu tin, esnan di EMS a take over y a sigui cu CPR riba e homber.

Pero na yegada na Hospital, no por a haci nada mas. Docter a haye ta constata morto di Guillermo Juan Ricardo Medina naci na Aruba riba 2 di augustus 1950. E ta conoci na Aruba como “Capitan Medina”.

Anto net Capitan Medina aki ta un ciudadano kende na numeroso ocasion den pasado tabata boga pa e placa di Belasting di pueblo worde usa na un forma cu ta beneficia pueblo. Envez cu placa di Belasting ta worde hinca den saco di gobernantenan... e tabata expresa na varios periodista cu placa tin di bay pa mihor School, mihor Cuido Medico, y mihor Ambulans. Net e ciudadano aki, kende semper a boga pa tin un mihor sistema di Ambulans na Aruba... net el a perde su bida debi cu no tabatin Ambulans di Gobierno e momento ey pa yude.

Varios persona a comenta Dialuna, cu nan ta convenci cu si acaso a logra haya Ambulans na prome instancia... ainda bida di e ciudadano lo por a worde salba. Esnan cu pasa banda di Post di Ambulans lo por mira varios vehiculo staciona. Pero no ta paga overtime, pues no tin trahador pa core cune.

Capitan Medina ta worde recorda como un persona kende semper tin pueblo y turismo na pecho. E tabata yuda semper pa promove Aruba cerca e bishitantenan. E mes tabatin un compania di Charter Yate, y tabata gusta conta tur turista extensivamente di loke e isla aki nifica pa su hendenan.

E tabata un persona kende a cuminza reclama di e abuso di algun compania nobo di Watersports cu no ta nada beneficioso pa e pueblo Arubano. E tabata un persona kende semper ta duna su opinion na un forma responsable, y cu backup.

E tabata semper contra tur clase di nepotismo, y sigur tabata condena semper cualkier deroche di placa cu Gobernantenan tabata haci nan mes culpable na dje. E negligencia di esnan responsible den e caso aki e minister tin di carga e responsabilidad ya cu e ta esun tin di carga e consecuencianan pa su maneho.

Online Pap translation:

just the ciudadano that always owing to boga for mihor servicio of ambulance at aruba...
scarcedad of ambulance owing to resulta fateful
for capitan medina

oranjestad (aan): the instant owing to arrive for algo worde haci! have of cuminza for of inside of the nucleo y come pafo. in seno of salubridad publico have of worde haci one investigacion for place minister responsible for negligencia, cu diadomingo not had ambulance disponible for one situation earnest. not can is so cu for motibo cu not have ambulance disponible, debi cu the was ocupa cu one another transporte... not can owing to achieve servicio of ambulance for bay cu urgencia for save life of one ciudadano that owing to confronta problem at mouth catalina.

was one unidad of police cu is pasando height of mouth catalina owing to worde stop. here owing to come hear cu one man that was snorkel in the area, diripiente owing to achieve problem cu salud.

police at once owing to cuminza ask for one ambulance. here the contesta owing to come cu owing to let much person babuca. is one sun ambulance had for serve 100.000 inhabitant. then the not can give asistencia the instant ey at mouth catalina.

this is exactly thing some tourist recien owing to reclama end. they're achieve cu the area more panort of aruba, have to ricibi sikiera one police-station y one ambulance-station for yudanza more rapido. not owing to stay another alternativa for calling ask yudanza of one compania particular. one personal of ems that was on caya, owing to ricibi call y owing to acudi cu urgencia cu his equiponan for cuminza work.

all the time, esnan at ground owing to succeed trece he at canto y owing to cuminza practica cpr on dje. esnan cu the instant is at the lugar of the sucedido was enough angry for her sistema of siglo 21 at aruba, esta cu not was have ambulance disponible in one caso of urgencia. hour cu the ambulance particular owing to present all cu have, esnan of ems owing to take over y owing to follow cu cpr on he.

but at arrival at hospital, not can owing to haci nothing more. docter owing to haye is constata dead of guillermo juan ricardo medina naci at aruba on 2 of august 1950. the is conoci at aruba because; “capitan medina”.

then just capitan medina here is one ciudadano that at numeroso ocasion in pasado was boga for her coin of tax of people worde using at one form cu is beneficia people. envez cu coin of tax is worde hinca in saco of gobernantenan... the was expresa at several journalist cu coin have of bay for mihor school, mihor cuido medico, y mihor ambulance. just the ciudadano here, that always owing to boga for have one mihor sistema of ambulance at aruba... just past owing to lose his life debi cu not had ambulance of gobierno the instant ey for yude.

several person owing to comenta monday, cu they're convenci cu if acaso owing to succeed achieve ambulance at first instancia... still life of the ciudadano will can owing to worde save. esnan cu happen near of post of ambulance will can see several vehiculo staciona. but do not pay overtime, then not have trahador for core cune.

capitan medina is worde recorda because; one person that always have people y turism at pecho. the was help always for promove aruba close the bishitantenan. the self had one compania of charter yacht, y was like count ; all tourist extensivamente of thing the island here nifica for his hendenan.

the was one person that owing to cuminza reclama of the abuse of some compania new of watersports cu do not nothing beneficioso for her people aruban. the was one person that always is give his opinion at one form responsable, y cu backup.

the was always contra all clase of nepotismo, y assure was condena always cualkier deroche of coin cu gobernantenan was haci they self culpable at dje. the negligencia of esnan responsible in the caso here the minister have of carga the responsabilidad already cu the is esun have of carga the consecuencianan for his maneho.
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[San]

Just posted on the front page of SM:

Name: minnesota dad
Date: June 26, 2007, 10:27 am

I have always maintained that this crime was simple. The cover-up was the complex problem - coached suspects (J2K) giving multiple stories is a tactic known to defense attorneys in order to cloud the case up as much as possible.

This is the case in a nutshell:
J2K pick up Natalee at CnC’s. They take her to #19 Montana, the Sloot compound (I come to this conclusion based on Joran’s statements - his first statement was the HI drop off - his second statement was the THREE of them took her back to his home…this statement was made at the same time of the confession that ’something bad happened’ - when the ’something bad happened’ was reversed by Joran’s handlers, the new story was that he dropped her off at the beach). Paulus was present at the compound. THEY NEVER, EVER bring Natalee into Joran’s apartment but rather carry on poolside.

{EDITED}

md

I agree with everything he said.

[2NJSons_Mom]

MinnesotaDad's theory has Natalee somewhere on land, though an untouchable area, and not the water.  Wondering about Frenchman's Pass, Spanish Lagoon, etc. as discussed here.

[msmarple]

Monkeys, some monkeys (as well as some BFN’ers) are heading for New Orleans for a travel show; ATA is participating.

Wish them bon voyage, safe travel, etc., at the Tourism Trade Show thread:
http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=1003&start=100

Richard posted tis Saturday, June 23 (emphasis added by me):

Remember, folks, in less than one week the New Orleans protest starts.

From June 27 to July 1, the Aruba Tourism Authority will be in New Orleans trying to sell a bunch of travel agents on the wonders and splendor of Aruba.

"No justice for Natalee ... no tourists for Aruba."

As you might expect, they will be confronted by protesters just as they were at Boston and at Miami.

The ATA must see this as a very important event, because travel agents are in a position to steer people to Aruba. How many people, before Natalee vanished, ever thought of Aruba at all? And if their travel agents smiled and said "Oh, aren't you lucky! It's a wonderful little island!" how many people would have doubted their word?

No longer. Now tragedy has exposed to the world what Aruba is really like, and brought to light other horrors that were suppressed. The people showing up in New Orleans will not let the ATA ignore Natalee's case.

Any questions or comments, etc., can be addressed to VolunteersforNatalee@gmail.com and will be forwarded to the person in charge of things.

Beth has said outright that she continues to support the boycott. We will NEVER let Natalee's case be forgotten!

[klaasend]

Posted on the front page of SM just now:

Name: minnesota dad
Date: June 26, 2007, 11:07 am

I believe that our gov’t already knows exactly what went on that night through Echelon information.

I encourage you to google “Echelon”. With the drug trade and our buddy Chavez just a few miles away…I am sure every cell record, text message, e-mail….and even the land lines are tapped. Everything is stored in a database somewhere.

Beth Holloway received info that something very serious had taken place and the DEA was involved IMMEDIATELY….hmmmm…DEA. Anyone think the DEA had certain folks under surveillance? Perhaps Lorenzo? How would they know so fast that this was much more serious than a missing/runaway girl????

I believe that the DEA and FBI have the full evidence on this case and know exactly what happened that night…but can’t come forward with it because it would compromise how they operate and just how powerful our surveillance is.

This is what has to just ‘loose stools’ to those that have participated in this cover-up….knowing that the decisions they were making were transparent cover-ups to US crime surveillance.

Now, it comes down to are the KLPD look as foolish…or are they going to slowly pick apart the players until the house of cards falls.

md

[msmarple]

Did we know this? From today's Atlanta Journal-Constitution:

Nancy Grace expecting twins, report says

FROM STAFF REPORTS

Published on: 06/26/07
 
CNN crime-talk maven Nancy Grace was secretly married in April and is expecting twins, according to a report in the New York Post on Tuesday.

The Post said Grace plans to announce her status on her CNN Headline News show Tuesday evening.

"I'm finally not keeping it a secret anymore," she told The Post.

According to the report, Grace is married to David Linch, an Atlanta investment banker. The two attended Mercer together in the 1970s and have stayed in touch, the Post story said.

Grace told the Post their marriage was a "spur of the moment decision" and that the pair had a simple ceremony in Macon, Grace's hometown.

The Post said Grace declined to say if she'd had fertility treatments in order to become pregnant at age 47.

"But you tell women out there that there is hope," she told the tabloid.

Grace is a one-time Fulton County prosecutor known for her tough tactics and impassioned arguments. She hosted a show on Court TV before joining CNN.

[San]

Did we know this? From today's Atlanta Journal-Constitution:

Nancy Grace expecting twins, report says

FROM STAFF REPORTS

Published on: 06/26/07
 
CNN crime-talk maven Nancy Grace was secretly married in April and is expecting twins, according to a report in the New York Post on Tuesday.

The Post said Grace plans to announce her status on her CNN Headline News show Tuesday evening.

"I'm finally not keeping it a secret anymore," she told The Post.

According to the report, Grace is married to David Linch, an Atlanta investment banker. The two attended Mercer together in the 1970s and have stayed in touch, the Post story said.

Grace told the Post their marriage was a "spur of the moment decision" and that the pair had a simple ceremony in Macon, Grace's hometown.

The Post said Grace declined to say if she'd had fertility treatments in order to become pregnant at age 47.

"But you tell women out there that there is hope," she told the tabloid.

Grace is a one-time Fulton County prosecutor known for her tough tactics and impassioned arguments. She hosted a show on Court TV before joining CNN.

Wow 47 years old and having twins to boot.  Much health and happiness to Nancy and her babies.  A true advocate for justice.