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Elaine
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June 27, 2007, 10:46:37 PM »
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Hi Monkeys!!
I am watching Haunting evidence. Tim Miller is on it, talking about how his daughter disappeared. Months later, when they found her body, he would go to the spot where they found her and scream out loud. "come and get me,you bastard". Poor Tim, his daughter Laura was only 16 yrs old.
They just showed Tim Miller at the very spot where his daughter's remains were found. There is a cross there, with flowers. To see him standing there is heart breaking!
Tim just lead John (from the show), to where the other two girls bodies were found. All in the same field. John said he could feel that Laura was not the only victim.
John and Carla are both at the field where the bodies were found to "feel the victims". They see Laura (Tim's daughter) at a phone booth making a call. A predator waits across the street, scoping her out. He got Laura in his car. John said the predator took Laura to a room. They say they have connected with Laura's spirit. Carla Baron, is there too.
John is saying that The killer took Laura to a secluded room. She was very scared. Carla sees the violent nature of Heidi's killer. (one of the 4 girls found dead in the field.)John says the girls were tortured and then killed.Now John says the third girl, was not killed by the same person who killed Laura and Heidi. Says this one was a copycat.
Weird, but the show has moved on to another case.
I just want to end this subject by saying,I just wanted to let those interested know about the show. Does not mean that I buy the physic stuff at all. However, it was interesting to see Tim Miller. 20 years has passed since his daughter was killed. Killer still on the loose.
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PERFECT place to lose a pair of sneakers
It is.
And Paulus and Joran could handle things by themselves, wouldn't even need Lorenzo for that one.
Much too simple, I guess.
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yep,
nailed it
when people "hide" something and they dont want it found which is the case in this situation... they dont just dumpit somewhere easy to find
if it means you have to get dirty and lose a pair of shoes...
well, then you lose the shoes and then you tell some LIES to throw the blame on someone else (k2 Brothers)
simple as huckleberry pie
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Near Spanish Lagoon Aruba
No way you could get me close enough to that to hide a body even if my life depended on it. But would fit Haunting evidence theory.
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June 27, 2007, 10:51:37 PM »
Robots,
If Joran lost the shoes disposing of the remains, that pretty well says he did that, at least initially. And if it was somewhere like Spanish Lagoon, I don't think there would be much retrieval and moving around after that, too hard to do.
So you would think in two years, somebody would have looked around that area but I would bet the farm no one has and no one will be allowed to do so, either.
Unless the Dutch might undertake that. We have not had any reports of their being in that area that I am aware of.
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June 27, 2007, 10:52:05 PM »
Sorry for O/T, but since both cases have been discussed here, I thought some would find it interesting. This is in regards to Cutts ex-girlfriend, the mother of his 9 yr. old daughter in CA. Extremely Bizaare coincidence!
Nikki Links Alleged Kid Killers Cutts, Benoit
Posted Jun 27th 2007 1:15PM by TMZ Staff
Filed under: Wacky and Weird
Bobby Cutts, Jr. and Chris Benoit,
the alleged child murderers whose cases are all over the news, have an unlikely lady link -- former NFL cheerleader/model Nikki Giavasis.
Giavasis has been everywhere -- "Today," "Good Morning America," CNN, MSNBC -- portraying Cutts, her former boyfriend and baby daddy, as "aggressive" and "threatening" -- and testifying to his potential to be a murderer. Cutts is the father of Nikki's nine-year-old daughter, and he has two other kids. In 1998, Giavasis was at home with former NBA star Shawn Kemp, when Cutts allegedly tried to break in.
Here's the crazy link: Giavasis was also featured in Wrestlemania XX, the WWE showcase that was won by none other than Benoit. Nikki was part of the WWE "Hot Team."
Giavasis' other credits include a starring role in the instructional video, "Becoming a Pro Cheer Leader" [sic] and appearances on reality series "The Casino" and ProActiv spots. She also claims in her bio that she has a genius-level IQ.
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June 27, 2007, 10:53:34 PM »
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Robots,
If Joran lost the shoes disposing of the remains, that pretty well says he did that, at least initially. And if it was somewhere like Spanish Lagoon, I don't think there would be much retrieval and moving around after that, too hard to do.
So you would think in two years, somebody would have looked around that area but I would bet the farm no one has and no one will be allowed to do so, either.
Unless the Dutch might undertake that. We have not had any reports of their being in that area that I am aware of.
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i really think this is the case........
very difficult BUT not impossible to search
Canines would have a tough time with smell and tracking and difficulty
but again NOT IMPOSSIBLE
it needs to be DONE
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June 27, 2007, 10:54:03 PM »
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Near Spanish Lagoon Aruba
No way you could get me close enough to that to hide a body even if my life depended on it. But would fit Haunting evidence theory.
Could that be called a crevice in rocks? I suppose it could.
I also wonder why it has not been sealed to prevent people from falling into it considering the large number of tourists running all over.
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Red was there around that time and I think the Spanish Lagoon was just to hard to search. It was all like quicksand or soft mud. Huge area as well.
Around what time, Klaas? Not sure I understand.
I don't think they would have to search the whole area, just right under the road that passes over the water maybe. Or what was easily accessible from the main highway.
Of course, someone hiding something is not going to put it into an easily accessible area. The idea is to find somewhere difficult to search. But if they don't search the most likely places, searching others because they are easy doesn't really make sense to me.
But that's just my thoughts on their searching methods.
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I meant around the time that TES was in Aruba and tried to search the area. Red was there then. Red has some photos of them in the area.
Edited to add: Now that I think of it, maybe it was the Bird Sanctuary they tried to search.
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June 27, 2007, 10:54:44 PM »
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Sorry for O/T, but since both cases have been discussed here, I thought some would find it interesting. This is in regards to Cutts ex-girlfriend, the mother of his 9 yr. old daughter in CA. Extremely Bizaare coincidence!
Nikki Links Alleged Kid Killers Cutts, Benoit
Posted Jun 27th 2007 1:15PM by TMZ Staff
Filed under: Wacky and Weird
Bobby Cutts, Jr. and Chris Benoit,
the alleged child murderers whose cases are all over the news, have an unlikely lady link -- former NFL cheerleader/model Nikki Giavasis.
Giavasis has been everywhere -- "Today," "Good Morning America," CNN, MSNBC -- portraying Cutts, her former boyfriend and baby daddy, as "aggressive" and "threatening" -- and testifying to his potential to be a murderer. Cutts is the father of Nikki's nine-year-old daughter, and he has two other kids. In 1998, Giavasis was at home with former NBA star Shawn Kemp, when Cutts allegedly tried to break in.
Here's the crazy link: Giavasis was also featured in Wrestlemania XX, the WWE showcase that was won by none other than Benoit. Nikki was part of the WWE "Hot Team."
Giavasis' other credits include a starring role in the instructional video, "Becoming a Pro Cheer Leader" [sic] and appearances on reality series "The Casino" and ProActiv spots. She also claims in her bio that she has a genius-level IQ.
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Elaine, thank you so much for giving us some details. I for one really appreciate it.
I really would like to know if Carla or John mentioned names or anything on Laura's killer. I seem to remember the guy who owned the property had backhoes on the property. He also was a strange dude. IIRC
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MISSING SNEAKERS are in the LAGOON
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what is so aggravating is that if someone would have simply asked a few FOLLOW up questions concerning the POLICE car TAPING
this would have been OVER by now
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Thanks San
(by the way, I won my game, lol
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Elaine, thank you so much for giving us some details. I for one really appreciate it.
I really would like to know if Carla or John mentioned names or anything on Laura's killer. I seem to remember the guy who owned the property had backhoes on the property. He also was a strange dude. IIRC
I didn't hear them name names. I do know that I have heard Tim Miller has a good idea who it could have been.
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what is so aggravating is that if someone would have simply asked a few FOLLOW up questions concerning the POLICE car TAPING
this would have been OVER by now
If someone had asked a few followup questions immediatley after Beth got to Aruba this should have been solved in just hours or maybe even a couple of days. But of course they had to have their Frosted Flakes.
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Near Spanish Lagoon Aruba
No way you could get me close enough to that to hide a body even if my life depended on it. But would fit Haunting evidence theory.
Could that be called a crevice in rocks? I suppose it could.
I also wonder why it has not been sealed to prevent people from falling into it considering the large number of tourists running all over.
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Anna, I was wondering the same thing. They just leave that gaping open like that? I am surprised no one has fallen in there yet. Or, maybe they have
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what is so aggravating is that if someone would have simply asked a few FOLLOW up questions concerning the POLICE car TAPING
this would have been OVER by now
"If they find the girl, I am going to laugh!" from Joran.
Could that be because he knows what they will have to wade through to find her?
And BOR is SOOOOoooo off my Buddy List! He just doesn't understand how "these women" can make the choices to get involved with these chaotic men. I suppose it never occurred to him that these men don't behave in a chaotic manner until it is too late.
I still want to see him do his program under the influence of date rape drug and alcohol as Red suggested.
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Near Spanish Lagoon Aruba
No way you could get me close enough to that to hide a body even if my life depended on it. But would fit Haunting evidence theory.
Could that be called a crevice in rocks? I suppose it could.
I also wonder why it has not been sealed to prevent people from falling into it considering the large number of tourists running all over.
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Anna, I was wondering the same thing. They just leave that gaping open like that? I am surprised no one has fallen in there yet. Or, maybe they have
Probably if they have, no one would ever know. May be lots of bodies in there.
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what is so aggravating is that if someone would have simply asked a few FOLLOW up questions concerning the POLICE car TAPING
this would have been OVER by now
"If they find the girl, I am going to laugh!" from Joran.
Could that be because he knows what they will have to wade through to find her?
And BOR is SOOOOoooo off my Buddy List! He just doesn't understand how "these women" can make the choices to get involved with these chaotic men. I suppose it never occurred to him that these men don't behave in a chaotic manner until it is too late.
I still want to see him do his program under the influence of date rape drug and alcohol as Red suggested.
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BOR dropped the ball
BIG TIME
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