Lively Case Discussion #648 6/27 - 6/30/2007

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Crap!  I feel like Angie.   (Hi sweetie, wherever you are).  I meant she is ALSO looking at other philanthropic ideas.  Good grief.

Morning Peaches and all~!!  
Haven't been on much due to work. My schedule has been really weird the last week . I been lurkin though.. Just haven't had much to say..lol
Plus going to bed early too..been tired as heck!
Waving to Anna as well!

Everyone have a great day.. need to get ready for work .  
Hope we hear some news soon. this is getting so depressing!

[robots]

Note to MF at FOB:  

Oduber looses case against Diario  

ORANJESTAD – In a lawsuit that Oduber had instituted against the morning paper Diario, of which the hearing was this morning, the judge ruled that he doesn’t think that Diario has insulted Prime Minister Nelson Oduber (MEP) in an article on the Namdar-case.    

The premier demanded rectification as a result of an article that appeared in the paper on May 14th that stated that the premier ‘has declared himself as main suspect’ in the Namdar-case.  Diario refused to rectify and the premier instituted the lawsuit due to insultation and slurring on his integrity.  “I admit in Oduber’s favour that Diario does impudent assertions in the article about the involvement of the government and the government party in a bribery scandal, but those assertions are strongly put into perspective”, said the judge.  According to him, it is about an analysis of the case and not a statement of the case.

Oduber’s reaction is that he will not appeal.  “I have lost enough time in this case already.  It has become clear to me that everybody can publish anything they want about the government, and not be prosecuted.  We have actually been outlawed.”

http://www.amigoe.com/english/

STHU

ODEJERK  

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Note to MF at FOB:  

Oduber looses case against Diario  

ORANJESTAD – In a lawsuit that Oduber had instituted against the morning paper Diario, of which the hearing was this morning, the judge ruled that he doesn’t think that Diario has insulted Prime Minister Nelson Oduber (MEP) in an article on the Namdar-case.    

The premier demanded rectification as a result of an article that appeared in the paper on May 14th that stated that the premier ‘has declared himself as main suspect’ in the Namdar-case.  Diario refused to rectify and the premier instituted the lawsuit due to insultation and slurring on his integrity.  “I admit in Oduber’s favour that Diario does impudent assertions in the article about the involvement of the government and the government party in a bribery scandal, but those assertions are strongly put into perspective”, said the judge.  According to him, it is about an analysis of the case and not a statement of the case.

Oduber’s reaction is that he will not appeal.  “I have lost enough time in this case already.  It has become clear to me that everybody can publish anything they want about the government, and not be prosecuted.  We have actually been outlawed.”

http://www.amigoe.com/english/

     good!

[robots]

Crap!  I feel like Angie.   (Hi sweetie, wherever you are).  I meant she is ALSO looking at other philanthropic ideas.  Good grief.

Morning Peaches and all~!!  
Haven't been on much due to work. My schedule has been really weird the last week . I been lurkin though.. Just haven't had much to say..lol
Plus going to bed early too..been tired as heck!
Waving to Anna as well!

Everyone have a great day.. need to get ready for work .  
Hope we hear some news soon. this is getting so depressing!

morning bunny  

[Silverfox]

Note to MF at FOB:  

Oduber looses case against Diario  

ORANJESTAD – In a lawsuit that Oduber had instituted against the morning paper Diario, of which the hearing was this morning, the judge ruled that he doesn’t think that Diario has insulted Prime Minister Nelson Oduber (MEP) in an article on the Namdar-case.    

The premier demanded rectification as a result of an article that appeared in the paper on May 14th that stated that the premier ‘has declared himself as main suspect’ in the Namdar-case.  Diario refused to rectify and the premier instituted the lawsuit due to insultation and slurring on his integrity.  “I admit in Oduber’s favour that Diario does impudent assertions in the article about the involvement of the government and the government party in a bribery scandal, but those assertions are strongly put into perspective”, said the judge.  According to him, it is about an analysis of the case and not a statement of the case.

Oduber’s reaction is that he will not appeal.  “I have lost enough time in this case already.  It has become clear to me that everybody can publish anything they want about the government, and not be prosecuted.  We have actually been outlawed.”

http://www.amigoe.com/english/

STHU

ODEJERK  

    I second that!

[robots]

Note to MF at FOB:  

Oduber looses case against Diario  

ORANJESTAD – In a lawsuit that Oduber had instituted against the morning paper Diario, of which the hearing was this morning, the judge ruled that he doesn’t think that Diario has insulted Prime Minister Nelson Oduber (MEP) in an article on the Namdar-case.    

The premier demanded rectification as a result of an article that appeared in the paper on May 14th that stated that the premier ‘has declared himself as main suspect’ in the Namdar-case.  Diario refused to rectify and the premier instituted the lawsuit due to insultation and slurring on his integrity.  “I admit in Oduber’s favour that Diario does impudent assertions in the article about the involvement of the government and the government party in a bribery scandal, but those assertions are strongly put into perspective”, said the judge.  According to him, it is about an analysis of the case and not a statement of the case.

Oduber’s reaction is that he will not appeal.  “I have lost enough time in this case already.  It has become clear to me that everybody can publish anything they want about the government, and not be prosecuted.  We have actually been outlawed.”

http://www.amigoe.com/english/

STHU

ODEJERK  

    I second that!

 

[Kimmy53]

Note to MF at FOB:  

Oduber looses case against Diario  

ORANJESTAD – In a lawsuit that Oduber had instituted against the morning paper Diario, of which the hearing was this morning, the judge ruled that he doesn’t think that Diario has insulted Prime Minister Nelson Oduber (MEP) in an article on the Namdar-case.    

The premier demanded rectification as a result of an article that appeared in the paper on May 14th that stated that the premier ‘has declared himself as main suspect’ in the Namdar-case.  Diario refused to rectify and the premier instituted the lawsuit due to insultation and slurring on his integrity.  “I admit in Oduber’s favour that Diario does impudent assertions in the article about the involvement of the government and the government party in a bribery scandal, but those assertions are strongly put into perspective”, said the judge.  According to him, it is about an analysis of the case and not a statement of the case.

Oduber’s reaction is that he will not appeal.  “I have lost enough time in this case already.  It has become clear to me that everybody can publish anything they want about the government, and not be prosecuted.  We have actually been outlawed.”

http://www.amigoe.com/english/

STHU

ODEJERK  

     I like to call him O'goober  

[robots]

Note to MF at FOB:  

Oduber looses case against Diario  

ORANJESTAD – In a lawsuit that Oduber had instituted against the morning paper Diario, of which the hearing was this morning, the judge ruled that he doesn’t think that Diario has insulted Prime Minister Nelson Oduber (MEP) in an article on the Namdar-case.    

The premier demanded rectification as a result of an article that appeared in the paper on May 14th that stated that the premier ‘has declared himself as main suspect’ in the Namdar-case.  Diario refused to rectify and the premier instituted the lawsuit due to insultation and slurring on his integrity.  “I admit in Oduber’s favour that Diario does impudent assertions in the article about the involvement of the government and the government party in a bribery scandal, but those assertions are strongly put into perspective”, said the judge.  According to him, it is about an analysis of the case and not a statement of the case.

Oduber’s reaction is that he will not appeal.  “I have lost enough time in this case already.  It has become clear to me that everybody can publish anything they want about the government, and not be prosecuted.  We have actually been outlawed.”

http://www.amigoe.com/english/

STHU

ODEJERK  

     I like to call him O'goober  

that works for me


 

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Crap!  I feel like Angie.   (Hi sweetie, wherever you are).  I meant she is ALSO looking at other philanthropic ideas.  Good grief.

Morning Peaches and all~!!  
Haven't been on much due to work. My schedule has been really weird the last week . I been lurkin though.. Just haven't had much to say..lol
Plus going to bed early too..been tired as heck!
Waving to Anna as well!

Everyone have a great day.. need to get ready for work .  
Hope we hear some news soon. this is getting so depressing!

morning bunny  

Morning Robots.. you behave and be a good Robots today~!!
Off to the shower I go.

[msmarple]

Here's another one from today's Amigoe.com ...

http://www.amigoe.com/english/   06/28/2007

Secretary of state does not act against MEP-boycott Diario  

ORANJESTAD – With much interest, secretary of state Ank Bijleveld-Schouten of Kingdom Relations ( CDA ) follows the case around the Aruban governmental party MEP boycotting Diario, but she will not take any actions in this.  “The primary responsibility for guaranteeing the implementation of the democratic principles, is with the countries selves”, indicated Bijleveld in a letter to Andin Bikker, chair of the extraparliamentary group Partido Democracia Real.  

Bikker has asked the Kingdom’s Council of Ministers on April 21st to take actions against MEP’s call for a boycott.  The party decided to do this after a number of not-liked publications of Diario.  In his request, Bikker refers to a letter dated April 17th, in which the Inter American Press Association (IAPA) declared that MEP’s call to boycott Diario means violation of article 5 of the Treaties of Chapultepec.  

According to Bijleveld, this declaration is judicially not binding however.  “The guarantee-function in article 43 of the Statute that you refer at, guarantees the implementation of the democratic principles of the constitution.  The primary responsibility for this is with the countries themselves though.  The appropriate measures from the Kingdom are only taken when it appears that a country does not sufficiently interpret these structurally.  But that is not the case here”, wrote Bijleveld to Bikker.

[greeneyedlady]

That's great about Oduber-wonder how MF's gonna spin it?

[robots]

Crap!  I feel like Angie.   (Hi sweetie, wherever you are).  I meant she is ALSO looking at other philanthropic ideas.  Good grief.

Morning Peaches and all~!!  
Haven't been on much due to work. My schedule has been really weird the last week . I been lurkin though.. Just haven't had much to say..lol
Plus going to bed early too..been tired as heck!
Waving to Anna as well!

Everyone have a great day.. need to get ready for work .  
Hope we hear some news soon. this is getting so depressing!

morning bunny  

Morning Robots.. you behave and be a good Robots today~!!
Off to the shower I go.

i had some bunnies, they never took showers..  

[Silverfox]

That's great about Oduber-wonder how MF's gonna spin it?

Things appear to be coming apart at the hinges for the Oduber/MEP government including all the alleged underworld connections to it.... drug busts, reversed rulings, rulings in favor of Diaro, investigations....and somehow in the middle of all of this is a missing American citzen... deja vu?

how long before it collapses?

[Tamikosmom]

Thank you Klaasand and msmarples for those Dairio updates.  This is good news for the people of Aruba in regards to freedom of speech and ... good news for Natalee Holloways family.  If it were not for Jossy Mansur's publication ...

Janet


DAVE HOLLOWAY
Dana Pretzer Show
September 8, 2006

HOLLOWAY: Jossy has been very helpful to try to find the truth, the fact he lives in Aruba and publishes a newspaper, they're attacking him because he's looking for-- fighting for-- the truth. That’s what a good journalist does--He's going to go after the people, regardless, and try to find the truth


STEVE HOLLOWAY
Scared Monkey - FP Comments
April 6, 2007

Comment #20 ... I think he is a good man looking for the truth. He will not let them push him around. This is his home and is probably sick of the corruption that happens every day on such a large scale on such a small island.
Comment by Steve Holloway | April 6, 2007, 1:02 pm


JUG TWITTY
Scared Monkey - FPComments
December 5, 2005

Comment #6 ... THANK YOU JOSSY I DON’T KNOW HOW YOU DO IT BUT YOU HAVE BEEN THERE FOR US FROM THE BEGENNING AND THE PEOPLE OF ARUBA SHOULD BE PROUD OF YOU.
Comment by JUG TWITTY | December 5, 2006, 10:57 am


BETH TWITTY
'Rita Cosby Live & Direct'
September 14, 2005
 
TWITTY: Well, you know, I‘ll be forever grateful for Jossy Mansur, who is there. And he has been so instrumental. And he‘s just a hero to all of us.  And, you know, he‘s my only hope on the island. And we‘ll be forever grateful to him.

[Tiger]

First,CBB,I salute you.Two,happy Canada Day.I figure they were Anahiem Ducks,since they have more Canadien players.Third-Flooding sucks,kills more people than anything else and ruins everything it touches.Finally,send us a couple inches.CBB,I will go your bail.

[Anna]

Working and Lurking. . .

It seems that with all the technology we have today, there should be some way to move all that rain in Texas a couple of hundred miles to the east where we need it so desperately--cloud seeding or something.

The dust is terrible here and people are wearing masks outside for mowing or just about anything.  I am having difficulty with asthma and also my eyes burning from it and from drying out all the time.  Also, houseflies outside are starting to BITE, I guess they are desperately thirsty.  

Two counties in west Georgia are out of water and there is a strange pumping sound or motion to our water here now which is sort of scary.  Never heard it before so I hope we are not getting low also.  I can't imagine trying to transport water for all these dogs and four horses.

So let's all cross our fingers that the rain will drift east and say prayers or whatever you do in a case like this.

[greeneyedlady]

That's great about Oduber-wonder how MF's gonna spin it?

Things appear to be coming apart at the hinges for the Oduber/MEP government including all the alleged underworld connections to it.... drug busts, reversed rulings, rulings in favor of Diaro, investigations....and somehow in the middle of all of this is a missing American citzen... deja vu?

how long before it collapses?

Hopefully soon Fox.

[Anna]

And I do hope those claiming to keep dossiers on us all take note of the Oduber ruling.  Analysis of the situation does not constitute slander nor anything more than free speech and freedom of the press, etc.  Saying you might like something or other to happen or that it is your opinion that it might well happen some day does NOT constitute a threat.

Just as kidnapping does not require a ransom demand, some might benefit from looking up what does constitute a threat.  People who live in glass houses and all that. . . .

.

[nonesuche]

That's great about Oduber-wonder how MF's gonna spin it?

Things appear to be coming apart at the hinges for the Oduber/MEP government including all the alleged underworld connections to it.... drug busts, reversed rulings, rulings in favor of Diaro, investigations....and somehow in the middle of all of this is a missing American citzen... deja vu?

how long before it collapses?

Hopefully soon Fox.

a hearty

[Tiger]

None,I love your new look.Jossy is a good guy.I am lurking and watching off and on