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« Reply #200 on: May 17, 2012, 12:47:32 PM »

Muffybee, it seems as though there is now a concerted effort to mainstream pedophilia.  From the New York court who says viewing child pornography is legal, to the sexualization of children in the movies.  It doesn't surprise me that the press would sanitize it, they are a huge part of a lot of today's problems.  I did a dogpile search "mainstreaming pedophilia", it was eye opening and frightening.

   It's just not right imo 


It is not right but it IS happening. There is a push in the APA to make it a disease and many pedos want to be protected by ADA laws.
Thank you for mentioning this.  I knew I had read something about it a while back, but could recall none of the details.
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Thank goodness for this verdict.
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This is related to the NY court allowing the viewing of child porn...although that is a bit misleading.  They are trying to protect those that actually did not view the porn, but "accidentally" have it on their computer.  I can say...I have NEVER had child porn on my computer.  NEVER...and I have been using the internet since 1996. 
http://www.scribd.com/doc/92997011/120508-NY-ChildPorn-Ruling
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We conclude that where the evidence fails to show that defendant had such awareness, the People have not met their burden of demonstrating defendant's knowing procurement or possession of those files. We further conclude that merely viewing Web images of child pornography does not,absent other proof, constitute either possession or procurement within the meaning of our Penal Law.
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IMO, that says viewing child porn is not illegal and it contradicts the cache issue.  If you view it, you have awareness.

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« Reply #201 on: May 17, 2012, 12:51:06 PM »

Muffybee, it seems as though there is now a concerted effort to mainstream pedophilia.  From the New York court who says viewing child pornography is legal, to the sexualization of children in the movies.  It doesn't surprise me that the press would sanitize it, they are a huge part of a lot of today's problems.  I did a dogpile search "mainstreaming pedophilia", it was eye opening and frightening.

   It's just not right imo 


It is not right but it IS happening. There is a push in the APA to make it a disease and many pedos want to be protected by ADA laws.
Thank you for mentioning this.  I knew I had read something about it a while back, but could recall none of the details.
Yes, the next thing you know they will want disability payments.
Thank goodness for this verdict.
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This is related to the NY court allowing the viewing of child porn...although that is a bit misleading.  They are trying to protect those that actually did not view the porn, but "accidentally" have it on their computer.  I can say...I have NEVER had child porn on my computer.  NEVER...and I have been using the internet since 1996. 
http://www.scribd.com/doc/92997011/120508-NY-ChildPorn-Ruling
From your link and BBM:
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We conclude that where the evidence fails to show that defendant had such awareness, the People have not met their burden of demonstrating defendant's knowing procurement or possession of those files. We further conclude that merely viewing Web images of child pornography does not,absent other proof, constitute either possession or procurement within the meaning of our Penal Law.
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IMO, that says viewing child porn is not illegal and it contradicts the cache issue.  If you view it, you have awareness.



It certainly does.
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« Reply #202 on: May 17, 2012, 01:19:17 PM »

Muffybee, it seems as though there is now a concerted effort to mainstream pedophilia.  From the New York court who says viewing child pornography is legal, to the sexualization of children in the movies.  It doesn't surprise me that the press would sanitize it, they are a huge part of a lot of today's problems.  I did a dogpile search "mainstreaming pedophilia", it was eye opening and frightening.

   It's just not right imo 

It is not right but it IS happening. There is a push in the APA to make it a disease and many pedos want to be protected by ADA laws.

It is a sexual preference, period. It is not a disease.
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« Reply #203 on: May 17, 2012, 02:05:43 PM »


Steve Powell's legal troubles may not be over


OLYMPIA, Wash. (AP) — The voyeurism conviction of a missing Utah woman's father-in-law may not be the last of his legal troubles.

An attorney who represents the teenage girls at the center of Steve Powell's voyeurism trial said Thursday they plan to file a lawsuit against him.

Lawyer Anne Bremner also represents the family of Susan Powell, the daughter-in-law of Steve Powell who has been missing since 2009.

Bremner said the lawsuit should be filed in the next few weeks and will accuse Steve Powell of causing emotional distress and violating the girls' right to privacy. She says the teens don't expect any substantial damages but hope the lawsuit continues to put pressure on Steve Powell

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http://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/Steve-Powell-s-legal-troubles-may-not-be-over-3566111.php
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« Reply #204 on: May 17, 2012, 02:06:55 PM »

Susan Powell looms over Wash. voyeurism conviction

TACOMA, Wash. (AP) - Family members of missing Utah mom Susan Powell are cheering a Washington state verdict convicting her father-in-law of 14 voyeurism charges.

Powell's parents have long believed that Steve Powell knows something about her 2009 disappearance. Her father, Chuck Cox, says he hopes a looming prison term would push Steve Powell to speak up

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http://www.abc4.com/content/news/state/story/Susan-Powell-looms-over-Wash-voyeurism-conviction/c9pWasVd80SfHsYJprwHSw.cspx
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« Reply #205 on: May 17, 2012, 02:10:44 PM »

Steven Powell’s daughter defends family on website, video

TACOMA — On a website created by Steven Powell’s daughter to counter claims about her family, Alina Powell said her father was “denied the right to defend himself in court because the relevant arguments and evidence showing his innocence were not allowed during the trial.”

Steven Powell’s attorneys presented no defense at trial. He was convicted of 14 counts of voyeurism and faces up to 70 years in prison when he is sentenced.

On the website, Alina Powell suggested the evidence police and prosecutors against her father was fabricated. The pictures presented at trial may have been Photoshopped.

“Overall, the police had access to all the resources needed to fabricate the so-called evidence brought against Steve Powell. The suspicious or overly convenient circumstances of the alleged crime and evidence, as well as the advance preparations the police were clearly making leading up to the search, also suggest foul play,” the website says.

The site includes a nearly 10-minute video narrated by Alina Powell that accuses people in the high-profile missing persons case of “scapegoating” her family, criticizing the police and Susan’s family.

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http://fox13now.com/2012/05/17/steven-powells-daughter-defends-family-on-website-video/

We now know nothing has changed with her version of reality.  Is there anything like the Baker Act in Washington?  She needs some serious help IMO.
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« Reply #206 on: May 17, 2012, 02:15:00 PM »

If you can stomach it, here is the narrated video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gozs47Tt1PI
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« Reply #207 on: May 17, 2012, 02:48:40 PM »

If you can stomach it, here is the narrated video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gozs47Tt1PI
Thanks but no thanks!  I've had enough of people who live in fantasy worlds.
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« Reply #208 on: May 17, 2012, 03:19:32 PM »

If you can stomach it, here is the narrated video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gozs47Tt1PI

"kangaroo court caused the death of my brother and his two boys"

I don't remember seeing the judge at the house the day JP took a hatchet to his sons before blowing up the house.   
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« Reply #209 on: May 18, 2012, 06:51:36 PM »

Muffybee, it seems as though there is now a concerted effort to mainstream pedophilia.  From the New York court who says viewing child pornography is legal, to the sexualization of children in the movies.  It doesn't surprise me that the press would sanitize it, they are a huge part of a lot of today's problems.  I did a dogpile search "mainstreaming pedophilia", it was eye opening and frightening.

   It's just not right imo 

It is not right but it IS happening. There is a push in the APA to make it a disease and many pedos want to be protected by ADA laws.

ok its a SICK disease,and many pedos want to be protected by ADA laws.
i dont believe mainstream america,will let that fly,ill be keeping a watch on that
and file whatever i need to with my gov.and any other entity, i need to,to put a
stop to that ideal
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« Reply #210 on: May 18, 2012, 10:29:15 PM »

Steven Powell: A case study in family destruction

Steven Powell’s conviction on 14 counts of voyeurism Wednesday should give police plenty of time – as he sits in prison – to explore his possible involvement in the disappearance of his daughter-in-law, Susan Powell.

Steven Powell’s conviction on 14 counts of voyeurism Wednesday should give police plenty of time – as he sits in prison – to explore his possible involvement in the disappearance of his daughter-in-law, Susan Powell.

His role in the corruption of her husband, who burned their two sons to death in February, is already obvious.

Josh Powell had a penchant for pornography and a tendency to demean and menace his wife, as Susan’s emails and other surviving documents have made clear. His murder of the two young boys doesn’t prove that he killed their mother, but it does prove that he was capable of worse. At the very least, one could say that Josh was not a paragon of respect for women.

Like father, like son.

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http://www.thenewstribune.com/2012/05/18/2149135/steven-powell-a-case-study-in.html
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« Reply #211 on: May 20, 2012, 09:16:00 AM »

Muffybee, it seems as though there is now a concerted effort to mainstream pedophilia.  From the New York court who says viewing child pornography is legal, to the sexualization of children in the movies.  It doesn't surprise me that the press would sanitize it, they are a huge part of a lot of today's problems.  I did a dogpile search "mainstreaming pedophilia", it was eye opening and frightening.

   It's just not right imo 

It is not right but it IS happening. There is a push in the APA to make it a disease and many pedos want to be protected by ADA laws.
Thank you for mentioning this.  I knew I had read something about it a while back, but could recall none of the details.
Yes, the next thing you know they will want disability payments.
Thank goodness for this verdict.
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Actually in Grease there are already receiving disability.

http://danieljmitchell.wordpress.com/2012/01/10/supposedly-bankrupt-greek-government-to-reward-pedophiles-with-disability-payments/
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« Reply #212 on: May 23, 2012, 05:34:01 PM »

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2012/may/23/us-missing-mom-utah/
Steve Powell’s legal troubles may not be over
May 23, 2012

The voyeurism conviction of a missing Utah woman's father-in-law may not be the last of his legal troubles, as an attorney said Thursday she is working on a lawsuit that could keep pressure on Steve Powell.

Lawyer Anne Bremner represents the family of two teenage girls who were the target of Powell's voyeurism. She said the lawsuit should be filed in the next few weeks and will accuse him of violating the girls' right to privacy and causing emotional distress.

Bremner said the family does not expect to get any substantial damages from Powell but hopes the lawsuit continues to pressure him to discuss Susan Powell's still-unsolved disappearance.

"You just don't want this guy to be in a position where he can prosper," said Bremner, who also represents Susan Powell's family. "It's yet another way to keep pressure on him."
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« Reply #213 on: May 29, 2012, 12:04:37 AM »

http://**/sltrib/news/54177981-78/powell-steve-susan-sentencing.html.csp

Prosecutor wants Steven Powell to serve decade in prison
But Susan Cox Powell, his missing daughter-in-law, still won’t be an issue at sentencing.
First Published May 27 2012 07:11 pm • Updated 44 minutes ago

A Washington state prosecutor will ask a judge to sentence Steve Powell to 10 years in prison for taking photographs of two former neighbor girls as they were undressed in their home.
 
That would be almost double or triple the amount of prison called for in Washington’s sentencing guidelines. Powell, who is the father-in-law of missing West Valley City woman Susan Cox Powell, was convicted earlier this month of 14 counts of voyeurism. Sentencing is scheduled for June 15 in Pierce County, Wash., Superior Court in Tacoma.

The prosecutor, Grant Blinn, said earlier this week in an email to The Salt Lake Tribune he will ask for 10 years. Blinn did not specify why.

Steve Powell’s attorney, Travis Currie, said he’ll ask for something less than 10 years.

"We believe that would be an excessive sentence based on his history and these charges based on other like cases," Currie said.

A jury found Steve Powell photographed two girls, then ages 9 and 8, through an open widow as they bathed and used the toilet in their home. The photographs were taken in 2006.
 
Steve Powell faces a maximum penalty of five years in prison on each of the counts, but Washington sentencing guidelines recommend Powell receive between 43 and 57 months in prison.
 
Washington law allows a judge to exceed those guidelines for aggravating circumstances, including being convicted of nine or more counts.
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« Reply #214 on: June 03, 2012, 12:21:12 AM »

Susan Powell's parents take control of her Utah home

Susan Powell’s parents now have control of the home where the missing Utah mother was last seen more than two years ago.
 
Property records list Chuck and Judy Cox as "owners" of the 2,238-square-foot home on Sarah Circle in West Valley City after a Washington probate judge named them special administrators for their daughter’s estate under a provision for missing persons cases.

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Downing said a Washington judge also named the Coxes personal administrators for their grandsons’ estates. Josh Powell had insurance policies in his sons’ names worth $500,000, as well as $1 million policies in both his and his missing wife’s names. Those policies are now the subject of a court action between Josh Powell’s siblings and mother and the Coxes.

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http://**/sltrib/news/54211242-78/powell-coxes-josh-susan.html.csp
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Susan Powell's parents take control of her Utah home

Susan Powell’s parents now have control of the home where the missing Utah mother was last seen more than two years ago.
 
Property records list Chuck and Judy Cox as "owners" of the 2,238-square-foot home on Sarah Circle in West Valley City after a Washington probate judge named them special administrators for their daughter’s estate under a provision for missing persons cases.

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Downing said a Washington judge also named the Coxes personal administrators for their grandsons’ estates. Josh Powell had insurance policies in his sons’ names worth $500,000, as well as $1 million policies in both his and his missing wife’s names. Those policies are now the subject of a court action between Josh Powell’s siblings and mother and the Coxes.

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http://**/sltrib/news/54211242-78/powell-coxes-josh-susan.html.csp
Thank goodness for a judge with some common sense.

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« Reply #216 on: June 04, 2012, 11:18:17 AM »

Am I wrong in thinking that any insurance in Susan's name can not be claimed until she is declared legally dead and that only her surviving family can do that?  (her parents, sibling)  I guess what I'm asking is whether Josh's siblings can try to have Susan declared dead?  If they do, it would look bad on his 'she ran off' argument.
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« Reply #217 on: June 09, 2012, 12:07:19 AM »

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« Reply #218 on: June 09, 2012, 03:15:47 PM »

http://www.thenewstribune.com/2012/06/09/2174574/steven-powells-attorneys-ask-for.html

Steven Powell's attorneys ask for short sentence
Published: 06/09/12 12:05 am

Steven Craig Powell’s attorneys will ask a Pierce County judge to sentence their client to no more than a year in jail on his multiple voyeurism convictions, which is 90 percent less time than that sought by prosecutors.

A jury last month convicted Powell of 14 counts of voyeurism.

Defense attorneys Mark Quigley and Travis Currie argue in pleadings filed Friday their client should be sentenced under guidelines in place before June 7, 2006, which classified voyeurism as an unranked felony with a standard range of zero to 12 months in jail.

Each conviction was to run concurrently (at the same time) under those guidelines.
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Prosecutors contend Powell deserves 10 years in prison for repeatedly violating the girls’ privacy. They also say sentencing him to concurrent sentences would allow him to escape punishment on many of his convictions. They concede two of the 14 counts should merge for sentencing purposes.

“We believe he should be sentenced on 12 counts,” deputy prosecutor Grant Blinn said.

Quigley and Currie also intend to argue at Powell’s sentencing hearing Friday before Superior Court Judge Ronald Culpepper that all but two of the convictions against their client should be dismissed on double jeopardy grounds.
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Read more here: http://www.thenewstribune.com/2012/06/09/2174574/steven-powells-attorneys-ask-for.html#storylink=cpy
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« Reply #219 on: June 10, 2012, 10:36:38 PM »

http://fox13now.com/2012/06/09/steven-powells-lawyers-want-charges-tossed-reduced-sentence/
Steven Powell’s lawyers want charges tossed, reduced sentence
June 9, 2012

TACOMA — Steven Powell’s defense team is asking a judge to dismiss most of the voyeurism charges a jury convicted him of.

In court documents obtained Saturday by FOX 13, Powell’s attorneys argue that it would be double jeopardy to sentence him on the 14 counts of voyeurism. They ask the judge to dismiss all but two counts — one for each victim.

“There is no evidence to prove that all of these acts took place at different times. The testimony was that they could have all taken place on the same day. The State presented evidence that the individual photos themselves were drawn from a series of images saved from a digital video recording, but no definitive evidence to support the conclusion that they were taken at different times,” defense attorneys Mark Quigley and Travis Currie wrote in a motion to dismiss.
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In another filing obtained by FOX 13, the defense team asks for up to a year in prison, arguing that the prosecution’s request is too harsh.
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