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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #865
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Joran van der Sloot's Extradition to US Not a Done Deal
Despite claims otherwise, Joran van der Sloot's extradition to the U.S. is not yet set in stone. Though a Peruvian judge approved his "provisional detention" last month, the convicted murderer has indicated that he intends to fight his extradition.
In court on Tuesday, van der Sloot told a judge that he would rather serve out the remainder of his 28-year murder sentence in Peru than be sent to the U.S. Rumor has it his jailed lifestyle is significantly more cushy than it would be in a federal prison.
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/11/tagblogsfindlawcom2012-blotter-idUS43572957320120511
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Come on Joran, about time you were shown some good old fashioned southern hospitality! ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran::
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Although i've been very impatient with how long it has taken for justice to be doled out to the pride of Assruba, I've learned in the past couple of years that there probably has been a lot going on through back channels. We saw that with the extortion attempt by Urine. John Q. Kelly and Beth were waiting for Urine to become complacent and slip up. Guess what? Urine is Coming to America.....Sorry Eddie and Arsenio
This extradition stuff also can be very slow, as countries have to work to respect another countries legal process.
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Quote from: Keepthefaith on May 15, 2012, 01:12:11 AM
Although i've been very impatient with how long it has taken for justice to be doled out to the pride of Assruba, I've learned in the past couple of years that there probably has been a lot going on through back channels. We saw that with the extortion attempt by Urine. John Q. Kelly and Beth were waiting for Urine to become complacent and slip up. Guess what? Urine is Coming to America.....Sorry Eddie and Arsenio
This extradition stuff also can be very slow, as countries have to work to respect another countries legal process.
Yep -- he's coming here alright!! I agree with the "back channel" thing. 2 things may be in the works ...(1) he may be conveniently here to testify in the Dr Phil case .. (2) he my just get hit with a murder charge for Natalee -- maybe wishful thinking, but I would not be at all surprised!
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Quote from: wreck on May 15, 2012, 01:16:35 AM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on May 15, 2012, 01:12:11 AM
Although i've been very impatient with how long it has taken for justice to be doled out to the pride of Assruba, I've learned in the past couple of years that there probably has been a lot going on through back channels. We saw that with the extortion attempt by Urine. John Q. Kelly and Beth were waiting for Urine to become complacent and slip up. Guess what? Urine is Coming to America.....Sorry Eddie and Arsenio
This extradition stuff also can be very slow, as countries have to work to respect another countries legal process.
Yep -- he's coming here alright!! I agree with the "back channel" thing. 2 things may be in the works ...(1) he may be conveniently here to testify in the Dr Phil case .. (2) he my just get hit with a murder charge for Natalee -- maybe wishful thinking, but I would not be at all surprised!
Interesting takes Wreck, but you could be right. I would love to see him get charged with murder, but think it is a long shot, unless there was something found on that laptop that we are unaware of. Either way, as long as we can stay nice and friendly with Peru, politically that is, Urine is going to be in prison for the rest of his life. ::boxingjoran::
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Quote from: Keepthefaith on May 15, 2012, 01:21:03 AM
Quote from: wreck on May 15, 2012, 01:16:35 AM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on May 15, 2012, 01:12:11 AM
Although I've been very impatient with how long it has taken for justice to be doled out to the pride of Assruba, I've learned in the past couple of years that there probably has been a lot going on through back channels. We saw that with the extortion attempt by Urine. John Q. Kelly and Beth were waiting for Urine to become complacent and slip up. Guess what? Urine is Coming to America.....Sorry Eddie and Arsenio
This extradition stuff also can be very slow, as countries have to work to respect another countries legal process.
Yep -- he's coming here alright!! I agree with the "back channel" thing. 2 things may be in the works ...(1) he may be conveniently here to testify in the Dr Phil case .. (2) he my just get hit with a murder charge for Natalee -- maybe wishful thinking, but I would not be at all surprised!
Interesting takes Wreck, but you could be right. I would love to see him get charged with murder, but think it is a long shot, unless there was something found on that laptop that we are unaware of. Either way, as long as we can stay nice and friendly with Peru, politically that is, Urine is going to be in prison for the rest of his life. ::boxingjoran::
Food for thought................................................. all of a sudden (about Jan or Feb '12) Dr. Phil's team stopped fighting the Kalpoes for trial delays and started agreeing to postponing the trial another year. That really never made much sense to me ----- maybe there were ulterior motives!
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Quote from: wreck on May 15, 2012, 01:31:28 AM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on May 15, 2012, 01:21:03 AM
Quote from: wreck on May 15, 2012, 01:16:35 AM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on May 15, 2012, 01:12:11 AM
Although I've been very impatient with how long it has taken for justice to be doled out to the pride of Assruba, I've learned in the past couple of years that there probably has been a lot going on through back channels. We saw that with the extortion attempt by Urine. John Q. Kelly and Beth were waiting for Urine to become complacent and slip up. Guess what? Urine is Coming to America.....Sorry Eddie and Arsenio
This extradition stuff also can be very slow, as countries have to work to respect another countries legal process.
Yep -- he's coming here alright!! I agree with the "back channel" thing. 2 things may be in the works ...(1) he may be conveniently here to testify in the Dr Phil case .. (2) he my just get hit with a murder charge for Natalee -- maybe wishful thinking, but I would not be at all surprised!
Interesting takes Wreck, but you could be right. I would love to see him get charged with murder, but think it is a long shot, unless there was something found on that laptop that we are unaware of. Either way, as long as we can stay nice and friendly with Peru, politically that is, Urine is going to be in prison for the rest of his life. ::boxingjoran::
Food for thought................................................. all of a sudden (about Jan or Feb '12) Dr. Phil's team stopped fighting the Kalpoes for trial delays and started agreeing to postponing the trial another year. That really never made much sense to me ----- maybe there were ulterior motives!
I hope so. I never really thought of that. Once on American soil and in a Alabama prison, Urine may be willing to talk. Being in Alabama with American prison inmates is going to be an entirely different form of pressure that I don't think Urine has come close to feeling, yet.
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #865
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Quote from: wreck on May 15, 2012, 01:31:28 AM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on May 15, 2012, 01:21:03 AM
Quote from: wreck on May 15, 2012, 01:16:35 AM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on May 15, 2012, 01:12:11 AM
Although I've been very impatient with how long it has taken for justice to be doled out to the pride of Assruba, I've learned in the past couple of years that there probably has been a lot going on through back channels. We saw that with the extortion attempt by Urine. John Q. Kelly and Beth were waiting for Urine to become complacent and slip up. Guess what? Urine is Coming to America.....Sorry Eddie and Arsenio
This extradition stuff also can be very slow, as countries have to work to respect another countries legal process.
Yep -- he's coming here alright!! I agree with the "back channel" thing. 2 things may be in the works ...(1) he may be conveniently here to testify in the Dr Phil case .. (2) he my just get hit with a murder charge for Natalee -- maybe wishful thinking, but I would not be at all surprised!
Interesting takes Wreck, but you could be right. I would love to see him get charged with murder, but think it is a long shot, unless there was something found on that laptop that we are unaware of. Either way, as long as we can stay nice and friendly with Peru, politically that is, Urine is going to be in prison for the rest of his life. ::boxingjoran::
Food for thought................................................. all of a sudden (about Jan or Feb '12) Dr. Phil's team stopped fighting the Kalpoes for trial delays and started agreeing to postponing the trial another year. That really never made much sense to me ----- maybe there were ulterior motives!
Hmn. That is food for thought. Good observation! ::justice2NJ:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran::
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Quote from: can on May 15, 2012, 08:48:53 AM
Quote from: wreck on May 15, 2012, 01:31:28 AM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on May 15, 2012, 01:21:03 AM
Quote from: wreck on May 15, 2012, 01:16:35 AM
Quote from: Keepthefaith on May 15, 2012, 01:12:11 AM
Although I've been very impatient with how long it has taken for justice to be doled out to the pride of Assruba, I've learned in the past couple of years that there probably has been a lot going on through back channels. We saw that with the extortion attempt by Urine. John Q. Kelly and Beth were waiting for Urine to become complacent and slip up. Guess what? Urine is Coming to America.....Sorry Eddie and Arsenio
This extradition stuff also can be very slow, as countries have to work to respect another countries legal process.
Yep -- he's coming here alright!! I agree with the "back channel" thing. 2 things may be in the works ...(1) he may be conveniently here to testify in the Dr Phil case .. (2) he my just get hit with a murder charge for Natalee -- maybe wishful thinking, but I would not be at all surprised!
Interesting takes Wreck, but you could be right. I would love to see him get charged with murder, but think it is a long shot, unless there was something found on that laptop that we are unaware of. Either way, as long as we can stay nice and friendly with Peru, politically that is, Urine is going to be in prison for the rest of his life. ::boxingjoran::
Food for thought................................................. all of a sudden (about Jan or Feb '12) Dr. Phil's team stopped fighting the Kalpoes for trial delays and started agreeing to postponing the trial another year. That really never made much sense to me ----- maybe there were ulterior motives!
Hmn. That is food for thought. Good observation! ::justice2NJ:: ::boxingjoran:: ::boxingjoran::
Maybe, the best is yet to come!
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My understanding.
Considering a crime happened against an American citizen while she was on American soil ... jurisdiction will not be a cause for an American judge to dismiss the charges brought against Joran van der Sloot for the extortion of Beth Holloway.
However ... jurisdictional issues may stand in the way of Joran van der Sloot being tried in an American court for his participation in the happenings encompassing the disappearance of Natalee Holloway on Aruban soil.
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THE NEW YORK LAWSUIT - DISMISSED!
Jurisdiction - A Procedural Ruling
NANCY GRACE
Judge Dismisses Holloway Suit
Aired August 11, 2006 - 20:00:00 ET
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JIM MORET: Natalee`s family filed a civil lawsuit in New York against Joran Van Der Sloot, the prime suspect in this case, and his father, Paul, claiming that Joran imprisoned and sexually assaulted their daughter, and also that Paul enabled his son`s delinquent behavior.
Basically, what happened is the judge said New York was the wrong place to file this lawsuit. The exact words were, "It`s an inconvenient place to file the lawsuit." Joran, you may recall, said that there was no nexus, there was no connection between New York, Natalee`s disappearance and any of the activities in Aruba. And basically, the judge agreed, saying the case is therefore dismissed.
<snipped>
MORET:
Joran Van Der Sloot is saying that New York -- through his attorney, saying New York was the wrong place to bring this case. All of the activities that were alleged happened in Aruba. Joran is not a U.S. citizen. Natalee did not live in New York. Therefore, it was the wrong place to bring this case.
Natalee`s family brought the case in New York because they said that a number of witnesses lived in and around New York, it was a convenient location to bring this lawsuit. And also, they claim to have another woman who was allegedly assaulted by Joran Van Der Sloot, and she was only going to testify in New York. But basically, the judge didn`t agree with any of those claims.
<snipped>
GRACE: Beth, thank you for being with us. It seems that no matter how hard you struggle for justice in your daughter`s disappearance, you get swatted down every which way you turn, now including an American court. Beth, what did you want to gain in this lawsuit?
TWITTY: Well, Nancy, first, I`d like to say that, you know, it`s not just Natalee and it`s not just Natalee`s last shot at justice. What we have, Nancy, we have millions and millions and millions of Americans who travel internationally every year. And what we are learning from Natalee is that, you know, the challenges that you will face should you find a loved one a victim of a crime in a foreign country. Your United States constitutional rights do not apply in other countries, and it`s been a hard life lesson for us to learn. There is no recourse.
We faced jurisdictional issues, extradition every -- every step of the way
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And it`s just hard to know the right turns to make. I mean, we`re doing the best that we can to see what can be done for an American citizen who`s a victim of a crime in a foreign country
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TWITTY: We know these are the original three suspects into her disappearance, and we are on the right track to pursue that, you know, but it`s just hard to find the venue. It`s just hard to know -- as I said, you know, there`s just not a handbook on this.
GRACE: Why are you so convinced, Beth, that these guys know what happened to your girl?
TWITTY: Well, the facts still remain that those are the last suspects known to be seen with Natalee alive. And everybody knows of their repeated lies that they told the authorities, even their father, Paulus Van Der Sloot. That`s why he was arrested. There was a reason that he was arrested in Natalee`s disappearance. It was not unwarranted whatsoever.
And you know -- and being dismissed in New York, it was on a procedure ruling. Here again, jurisdiction. We have faced that issue since May 30 of 2005. Jurisdiction and extradition have hit us in the face every time
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http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0608/11/ng.01.html
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on May 15, 2012, 12:32:59 PM
My understanding.
Considering a crime happened against an American citizen while she was on American soil ... jurisdiction will not be a cause for an American judge to dismiss the charges brought against Joran van der Sloot for the extortion of Beth Holloway.
However ... jurisdictional issues may stand in the way of Joran van der Sloot being tried in an American court for his participation in the happenings encompassing the disappearance of Natalee Holloway on Aruban soil.
IMO
Janet
1. Joran will hopefully be extradited to the USA to answer charges of extortion and wire fraud, for which he has already indicted.
2. As for charging him for any crimes against Natalee, so far that is only wishful thinking on our part. However, the
Passive Personality Principle of Jurisdiction
may enter into any future charges against Joran. It looks to the nationality of the victim to determine jurisdiction, holding that a state may assert jurisdiction over persons and events outside a state's territory on the basis that its citizen has been harmed.
Edit - term correction per jamcakes. MB
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Quote from: jamcakes on May 15, 2012, 02:28:05 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on May 15, 2012, 12:32:59 PM
My understanding.
Considering a crime happened against an American citizen while she was on American soil ... jurisdiction will not be a cause for an American judge to dismiss the charges brought against Joran van der Sloot for the extortion of Beth Holloway.
However ... jurisdictional issues may stand in the way of Joran van der Sloot being tried in an American court for his participation in the happenings encompassing the disappearance of Natalee Holloway on Aruban soil.
IMO
Janet
1. Joran will hopefully be extradited to the USA to answer charges of extortion and wire fraud, for which he has already indicted.
2. As for charging him for any crimes against Natalee, so far that is only wishful thinking on our part. However, the
Passive Personality Principle of Jurisdiction
may enter into any future charges against Joran. It looks to the nationality of the victim to determine jurisdiction, holding that a state may assert jurisdiction over persons and events outside a state's territory on the basis that its citizen has been harmed.
Edit - Term correction per jamcakes. MB
Yes......... I think it has been documented here that the US Government can prosecute any crimes committed against a US citizen on foreign soil (particularly if justice had not been administered in the country where the crime was committed). While the US cannot enter a foreign country to nab said suspect -- if they get him somehow to enter the United States -- all is fair!! ............................ well now they are going to get Joran here -- legally!!
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Quote from: jamcakes on May 15, 2012, 02:28:05 PM
1. Joran will hopefully be extr adited to the USA to answer charges of extortion and wire fraud, for which he has already indicted.
2. As for charging him for any crimes against Natalee, so far that is only wishful thinking on our part. However, the
Passive Personality Principle of Jurisdiction
may enter into any future charges against Joran. It looks to the nationality of the victim to determine jurisdiction, holding that a state may assert jurisdiction over persons and events outside a state's territory on the basis that its citizen has been harmed.
Edit - to correct term. MB
Excuse me, please. I'm having brain stutters today.
It should be
Passive Personality Principle of Jurisdiction
Edit - sp. MB
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Quote from: jamcakes on May 16, 2012, 12:45:16 AM
Quote from: jamcakes on May 15, 2012, 02:28:05 PM
1. Joran will hopefully be extradited to the USA to answer charges of extortion and wire fraud, for which he has already indicted.
2. As for charging him for any crimes against Natalee, so far that is only wishful thinking on our part. However, the
Passive Personality Principle of Jurisdiction
may enter into any future charges against Joran. It looks to the nationality of the victim to determine jurisdiction, holding that a state may assert jurisdiction over persons and events outside a state's territory on the basis that its citizen has been harmed.
Edit - fix term per jamcakes. MB
Excuse me, please. I'm having brain stutters today.
It should be
Passive Personality Principle of Jurisdiction
Edit sp. MB
LOL.
Passive Personality Principle of Jurisdiction.
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JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY & STEPHANY FLORES
GOODNIGHT & GOD BLESS
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Quote from: Keepthefaith on May 17, 2012, 02:32:41 AM
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY & STEPHANY FLORES
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Photo at link. Peter R. de Vries receives the 2012 Forget-Me-Not Award.
http://www.peterrdevries.nl/nieuws/peter-ontvangt-unieke-vergeet-me-niet-award/
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Friday, May 18, 2012, 15:51 hours
News
Peter receives unique Forget-Me-Not Award
Corrie van Buuren praises Peter for his years of dedication
Friday was Peter from the hands of Corrie van Buuren and Missing presenter Jaap Jongbloed the Forget-Me-Not Award 2012 awarded. Peter received this award for his energetic, tenacious attitude in numerous murder and missing cases.
"Thanks to you, by your determination, we have the place where Marion and Romy found buried," said Corrie van Buuren in an emotional speech. "After all these years a very special working relationship. Even after the discovery of Marion and Romy have you done much for us. We are very grateful for you. "
Unforgettable moments
Peter called it a "great surprise" that he just got the prize awarded. "I'm very proud of this award," he responded. "It has extra meaning for me that just handed Corrie van Buuren this. We have many memorable and touching moments with each experienced in the time I was working with the disappearance of her daughter Marion and her granddaughter Romy. We still have regular contact and it makes me so much that she spoke to me so beautiful. Then you just have a lump in your throat. This price will absolutely a beautiful place in my home. "
"I find it great fun to 'Missing' awarded me this prize," continued Peter. "Twenty years ago my television career began with Jaap Jongbloed, when we were together the first crime magazine" Crime Time ". I'm there with a lot of fun back then and it is natural that its special program gives me this award. "
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Eleventh award
Each year they award Corrie van Buuren, as an ambassador of the Missing Foundation, the award from. The Award, which in 2002 was first issued, serves as encouragement for those who make themselves useful in detecting and preventing disappearances. Since 2002, the Forget-Me-Not Award eleven times awarded. Images of the ceremony on 25 May in the broadcast of Missing screened, around 21:30 in the Netherlands 1.
Marijke Kuin
Editorial Peter R. de Vries
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=> Forum Rules and Tips
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Polls, Polls and more Polls
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=> Missing Persons Polls
=> Current Events/News Polls
=> Crime and Trial Polls
=> Just For Fun Polls
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Missing Persons - High Profile
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=> Missing Persons High Profile
===> Dylan Redwine, 13yrs old, last seen 11/19/12, Vallecito, CO
===> Kyron Horman - Portland Oregon
===> Caylee Marie Anthony - Florida (BODY FOUND)
=====> Caylee's Law - by State
=======> Caylee's Law - text
=======> ALABAMA
=======> ALASKA
=======> ARIZONA
=======> ARKANSAS
=======> CALIFORNIA
=======> COLORADO
=======> CONNECTICUT
=======> DELAWARE
=======> DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA
=======> FLORIDA
=======> GEORGIA
=======> HAWAII
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=======> KENTUCKY
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=======> MISSISSIPPI
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=======> MONTANA
=======> NEBRASKA
=======> NEVADA
=======> NEW HAMPSHIRE
=======> NEW JERSEY
=======> NEW MEXICO
=======> NEW YORK
=======> NORTH CAROLINA
=======> NORTH DAKOTA
=======> OHIO
=======> OKLAHOMA
=======> OREGON
=======> PENNSYLVANIA
=======> PUERTO RICO
=======> RHODE ISLAND
=======> SOUTH CAROLINA
=======> SOUTH DAKOTA
=======> TENNESSEE
=======> TEXAS
=======> UTAH
=======> VERMONT
=======> VIRGINIA
=======> WASHINGTON
=======> WEST VIRGINIA
=======> WISCONSIN
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=====> Caylee Marie Anthony Murder Trial Archives
===> Sierra Lamar, 15yrs old, Morgan Hill, CA Missing Since March 16, 2012
===> JO ANN (JODIE) BAIN AND 3 DAUGHTERS MISSING 4/27/2012(2 murdered 2 safe)
===> Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6 yrs old missing 4/21/12 Tucson, AZ (Body Found)
===> Jennifer Kesse - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Susan Powell 28yrs old, missing 12/6/09 West Valley City, Utah
===> Michelle Loree Parker, Last Seen 11/17/11, Orlando, FL
===> Celina Cass, 11yrs old missing 7/25/11 New Hampshire
===> Aliayah Lunsford, 3yrs old, Weston, West VA, missing since 9/24/2011
===> Lisa Irwin, 10mo old missing since 10/4/2011 KC, MO
===> Robyn Gardner missing in Aruba August 2, 2011
=> Missing Persons - High Profile - Archives
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Virginia Area Missing and Murdered - possible connections
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=> Morgan Dana Harrington, 20yrs missing VA Tech 10/17/09(BODY FOUND)
=> Hannah Elizabeth Graham missing since 9/13/14 Charlottesville, VA
=> Alexis Murphy, missing since 8/3/13 Charlottesville, VA
=> Samantha Ann Clarke 19yrs. old Orange Va. Last seen 09/13/10
=> Dashad Sage Smith missing since 11/20/12 Charlottesville, VA
=> Cassandra Morton 23, Lynchburg, missing 10/10/09 body found 11/29/09
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High Profile Crimes and Trials (not missing persons)
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=> Jodi Arias trial - for the murder of Travis Alexander
=> Trial of George Zimmerman - 2nd Degree Murder of 17yr old Trayvon Martin
=> Scott Peterson Appeal of Murder Conviction
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Missing, Exploited and True Crime
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=> Missing Exploited and True Crime
===> Missing Persons Forum
=====> Missing Found or Presumed Deceased
=====> Missing Found Safe
=====> Missing Endangered Runaways
=====> Resourses, Search Groups and Fundraisers
===> Crimes Against Children, Elderly and the Disabled
===> Crimes of Passion/Anger
===> Serial Killers and Their Possible Victims
===> Unsolved Crimes
=====> Finally Solved
===> Haleigh Marie Cummings - Florida
===> Adji Desir - Florida
===> Somer Renee Thompson 7 yo, Orange Park FL 10/19/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Tracy Ocasio - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
===> Deepak Statements/PV's
===> Satish Statements/PV's
===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
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The Monkey Lounge
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=> The Monkey Lounge
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=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> News Issues
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