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« Reply #320 on: July 01, 2007, 07:56:35 PM »

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This almost sounds like they may have suspected they were being recorded. Why would that refer to Joran as "that person" but call Feddy and Steve by name??


Well, it is Joran quoting in his book.  Maybe he left out a few important things??  Rolling Eyes
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« Reply #321 on: July 01, 2007, 07:58:40 PM »

What's with this??

D: Up till today, I havenít told any shit about him, whether he did something with the girl or that the chickÖ
S: Weíve only told the truth
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« Reply #322 on: July 01, 2007, 07:58:42 PM »

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Do we have this??  Posted by Jon at Scrux:



Police van conversation between Deepak and Satish

22 June 2005 (P 179-181 in book)

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This almost sounds like they may have suspected they were being recorded.  Why would that refer to Joran as "that person" but call Feddy and Steve by name??

Exactly truthseeker.
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« Reply #323 on: July 01, 2007, 07:59:34 PM »

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truthseeker2

This almost sounds like they may have suspected they were being recorded. Why would that refer to Joran as "that person" but call Feddy and Steve by name??


Well, it is Joran quoting in his book.  Maybe he left out a few important things??  Rolling Eyes


Sooo...Joran has access to transcripts that incriminate some of his best friends?  And he chose to put this in his book????

This doesn't make a whole heck of a lot of sense to me.
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« Reply #324 on: July 01, 2007, 08:01:26 PM »

So do we know if Freddy was ever questioned?
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« Reply #325 on: July 01, 2007, 08:03:01 PM »

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truthseeker2

This almost sounds like they may have suspected they were being recorded. Why would that refer to Joran as "that person" but call Feddy and Steve by name??


Well, it is Joran quoting in his book.  Maybe he left out a few important things??  Rolling Eyes


Sooo...Joran has access to transcripts that incriminate some of his best friends?  And he chose to put this in his book????

This doesn't make a whole heck of a lot of sense to me.


Maybe he's trying to keep the K2 from using them in their book.  This way he can say how wrong things are.  Who knows.  Jon did not state who the translator was.
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« Reply #326 on: July 01, 2007, 08:03:02 PM »

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What's with this??

D: Up till today, I havenít told any shit about him, whether he did something with the girl or that the chickÖ
S: Weíve only told the truth

Joran is a fool to put this in his book.  There has to be a reason why this was in the book.  He is trying to cover for something that is out there.  Yes I know there is a lot of stuff out there but I believe it is for a particular reason.  Joran just screwed Sander, Koen & Freddy even more and showed the world how much they are involved.
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« Reply #327 on: July 01, 2007, 08:04:16 PM »

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So do we know if Freddy was ever questioned?

I don't even know if Freddy is smart enough to spell his last name.  He walks around with a little piece of paper in his pocket to help him.
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« Reply #328 on: July 01, 2007, 08:04:46 PM »

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What's with this??

D: Up till today, I havenít told any shit about him, whether he did something with the girl or that the chickÖ
S: Weíve only told the truth

Joran is a fool to put this in his book.  There has to be a reason why this was in the book.  He is trying to cover for something that is out there.  Yes I know there is a lot of stuff out there but I believe it is for a particular reason.  Joran just screwed Sander, Koen & Freddy even more and showed the world how much they are involved.


Or...he's going for a pity me stance that Deepak has accused all of them because he's guilty.
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« Reply #329 on: July 01, 2007, 08:07:03 PM »

Seriously? Why do you think that, San?

I've read through all the statements this week on "Important Case Documents" and I keep seeing references to Freddy; I'm surprised he was never brought in--especially since Sander, Koen, and Jaime were questioned and seem to know less about what happened than Freddy. There are several references to Freddy being privy to both the original Holiday Inn lie, as well as the truth.
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« Reply #330 on: July 01, 2007, 08:08:47 PM »

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This almost sounds like they may have suspected they were being recorded.

I agree. And all the...i tell the truth, i am innocent, i tell the truth stuff sounds staged. Who are they trying to convince, each other?
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« Reply #331 on: July 01, 2007, 08:11:09 PM »

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So do we know if Freddy was ever questioned?

Freddy was questioned at least 7/8 times. We know that from the Dr. Phil filings and from Joran's book.
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« Reply #332 on: July 01, 2007, 08:13:16 PM »

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So do we know if Freddy was ever questioned?

Freddy was questioned at least 7/8 times. We know that from the Dr. Phil filings and from Joran's book.


I wish we could get copies of those statements! (Those and Lorenzo's).

It's impressive how many statements are in the monkeys' files, though.
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« Reply #333 on: July 01, 2007, 08:16:42 PM »

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So do we know if Freddy was ever questioned?

Freddy was questioned at least 7/8 times. We know that from the Dr. Phil filings and from Joran's book.


I wish we could get copies of those statements! (Those and Lorenzo's).

It's impressive how many statements are in the monkeys' files, though.

Parts of Freddy's statements have been translated from the book. Klaas has a thread with book excerpts (in doc section?). The Freddy parts are very interesting, he was and is a big problem for Joran.
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« Reply #334 on: July 01, 2007, 08:21:17 PM »

Hmmmm I don't think I have seen them either, will have to go take a look. Thanks
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« Reply #335 on: July 01, 2007, 08:21:42 PM »

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What's with this??

D: Up till today, I havenít told any shit about him, whether he did something with the girl or that the chickÖ
S: Weíve only told the truth

Joran is a fool to put this in his book.  There has to be a reason why this was in the book.  He is trying to cover for something that is out there.  Yes I know there is a lot of stuff out there but I believe it is for a particular reason.  Joran just screwed Sander, Koen & Freddy even more and showed the world how much they are involved.


Or...he's going for a pity me stance that Deepak has accused all of them because he's guilty.


He has been going for that pity me stance ever since he did those interviews.  Deepak sounds more convincing than a proven liar.  Joran even admitts that he is a liar.  The liar is the one throwing that information out there and we still have not heard from the Kalpoes.  

    D: Yep, because he hasnít told me anything and I donít know it. Iím not gonna lie about him. But the more he talks (??????)
I would never never never talk shit about him like: ďhe did do this or that to the girlĒ, because I donít know.
S: Must just declare the truth
D: Iíll never do that. But let him talk shit. Iíll never say something against or about (???) him. Never, just tell the truth. And thatís also what Iíve always declared in my statements. His attorney will point that out to himself. Iíll never (falsely) accuse somebody.[/list]
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« Reply #336 on: July 01, 2007, 08:23:31 PM »

The ALE had these statements since they were made and they never followed up on them. Hey we all know what happened. ( the big picture, we have our dif. theories as to the house, the beach, the shoes.The thing we do not know is where is Natalee.
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« Reply #337 on: July 01, 2007, 08:24:17 PM »

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Seriously? Why do you think that, San?

I've read through all the statements this week on "Important Case Documents" and I keep seeing references to Freddy; I'm surprised he was never brought in--especially since Sander, Koen, and Jaime were questioned and seem to know less about what happened than Freddy. There are several references to Freddy being privy to both the original Holiday Inn lie, as well as the truth.

I believe he was privy to the original lie because Freddy is the original fourth suspect.  Paulus hired him an attorney that first week.
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« Reply #338 on: July 01, 2007, 08:26:29 PM »

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This almost sounds like they may have suspected they were being recorded.

I agree. And all the...i tell the truth, i am innocent, i tell the truth stuff sounds staged. Who are they trying to convince, each other?

They are trying to convince the ones that will be listening to the conversation.  They know they are being recorded.  They are playing dumb with stuff like I don't know what happened.  Then in the next sentence they are saying Joran is talking shit about what he did and they would never talk shit about Joran.
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« Reply #339 on: July 01, 2007, 08:26:44 PM »

Hmm,new stuff ever day.great work,Karo,what else can you expect out of a cat.Freddy does seem to know everything,isn't he the film maker?
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