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Buckeye
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July 01, 2007, 07:56:35 PM »
truthseeker2
This almost sounds like they may have suspected they were being recorded. Why would that refer to Joran as "that person" but call Feddy and Steve by name??
Well, it is Joran quoting in his book. Maybe he left out a few important things??
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What's with this??
D: Up till today, I haven’t told any shit about him, whether he did something with the girl
or that the chick…
S: We’ve only told the truth
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Quote from: "truthseeker2"
Quote from: "Buckeye"
Do we have this?? Posted by Jon at Scrux:
Police van conversation between Deepak and Satish
22 June 2005 (P 179-181 in book)
{Edited}
This almost sounds like they may have suspected they were being recorded.
Why would that refer to Joran as "that person" but call Feddy and Steve by name??
Exactly truthseeker.
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truthseeker2
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July 01, 2007, 07:59:34 PM »
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truthseeker2
This almost sounds like they may have suspected they were being recorded. Why would that refer to Joran as "that person" but call Feddy and Steve by name??
Well, it is Joran quoting in his book. Maybe he left out a few important things??
Sooo...Joran has access to transcripts that incriminate some of his best friends? And he chose to put this in his book????
This doesn't make a whole heck of a lot of sense to me.
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So do we know if Freddy was ever questioned?
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Buckeye
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truthseeker2
This almost sounds like they may have suspected they were being recorded. Why would that refer to Joran as "that person" but call Feddy and Steve by name??
Well, it is Joran quoting in his book. Maybe he left out a few important things??
Sooo...Joran has access to transcripts that incriminate some of his best friends? And he chose to put this in his book????
This doesn't make a whole heck of a lot of sense to me.
Maybe he's trying to keep the K2 from using them in their book. This way he can say how wrong things are. Who knows. Jon did not state who the translator was.
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What's with this??
D: Up till today, I haven’t told any shit about him, whether he did something with the girl
or that the chick…
S: We’ve only told the truth
Joran is a fool to put this in his book. There has to be a reason why this was in the book. He is trying to cover for something that is out there. Yes I know there is a lot of stuff out there but I believe it is for a particular reason. Joran just screwed Sander, Koen & Freddy even more and showed the world how much they are involved.
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Quote from: "BlueKYGirl"
So do we know if Freddy was ever questioned?
I don't even know if Freddy is smart enough to spell his last name. He walks around with a little piece of paper in his pocket to help him.
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What's with this??
D: Up till today, I haven’t told any shit about him, whether he did something with the girl
or that the chick…
S: We’ve only told the truth
Joran is a fool to put this in his book. There has to be a reason why this was in the book. He is trying to cover for something that is out there. Yes I know there is a lot of stuff out there but I believe it is for a particular reason. Joran just screwed Sander, Koen & Freddy even more and showed the world how much they are involved.
Or...he's going for a pity me stance that Deepak has accused all of them because he's guilty.
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Seriously? Why do you think that, San?
I've read through all the statements this week on "Important Case Documents" and I keep seeing references to Freddy; I'm surprised he was never brought in--especially since Sander, Koen, and Jaime were questioned and seem to know less about what happened than Freddy. There are several references to Freddy being privy to both the original Holiday Inn lie, as well as the truth.
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This almost sounds like they may have suspected they were being recorded.
I agree. And all the...i tell the truth, i am innocent, i tell the truth stuff sounds staged. Who are they trying to convince, each other?
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So do we know if Freddy was ever questioned?
Freddy was questioned at least 7/8 times. We know that from the Dr. Phil filings and from Joran's book.
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Quote from: "BlueKYGirl"
So do we know if Freddy was ever questioned?
Freddy was questioned at least 7/8 times. We know that from the Dr. Phil filings and from Joran's book.
I wish we could get copies of those statements! (Those and Lorenzo's).
It's impressive how many statements are in the monkeys' files, though.
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July 01, 2007, 08:16:42 PM »
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Quote from: "igsigs"
Quote from: "BlueKYGirl"
So do we know if Freddy was ever questioned?
Freddy was questioned at least 7/8 times. We know that from the Dr. Phil filings and from Joran's book.
I wish we could get copies of those statements! (Those and Lorenzo's).
It's impressive how many statements are in the monkeys' files, though.
Parts of Freddy's statements have been translated from the book. Klaas has a thread with book excerpts (in doc section?). The Freddy parts are very interesting, he was and is a big problem for Joran.
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Hmmmm I don't think I have seen them either, will have to go take a look. Thanks
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Quote from: "Buckeye"
What's with this??
D: Up till today, I haven’t told any shit about him, whether he did something with the girl
or that the chick…
S: We’ve only told the truth
Joran is a fool to put this in his book. There has to be a reason why this was in the book. He is trying to cover for something that is out there. Yes I know there is a lot of stuff out there but I believe it is for a particular reason. Joran just screwed Sander, Koen & Freddy even more and showed the world how much they are involved.
Or...he's going for a pity me stance that Deepak has accused all of them because he's guilty.
He has been going for that pity me stance ever since he did those interviews. Deepak sounds more convincing than a proven liar. Joran even admitts that he is a liar. The liar is the one throwing that information out there and we still have not heard from the Kalpoes.
D: Yep, because he hasn’t told me anything and I don’t know it. I’m not gonna lie about him. But the more he talks (??????)
I would never never never talk shit about him like: “he did do this or that to the girl”, because I don’t know.
S: Must just declare the truth
D: I’ll never do that.
But let him talk shit. I’ll never say something against or about (???) him. Never, just tell the truth.
And that’s also what I’ve always declared in my statements. His attorney will point that out to himself. I’ll never (falsely) accuse somebody.[/list]
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The ALE had these statements since they were made and they never followed up on them. Hey we all know what happened. ( the big picture, we have our dif. theories as to the house, the beach, the shoes.The thing we do not know is where is Natalee.
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Seriously? Why do you think that, San?
I've read through all the statements this week on "Important Case Documents" and I keep seeing references to Freddy; I'm surprised he was never brought in--especially since Sander, Koen, and Jaime were questioned and seem to know less about what happened than Freddy. There are several references to Freddy being privy to both the original Holiday Inn lie, as well as the truth.
I believe he was privy to the original lie because Freddy is the original fourth suspect. Paulus hired him an attorney that first week.
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Quote from: "truthseeker2"
This almost sounds like they may have suspected they were being recorded.
I agree. And all the...i tell the truth, i am innocent, i tell the truth stuff sounds staged. Who are they trying to convince, each other?
They are trying to convince the ones that will be listening to the conversation. They know they are being recorded. They are playing dumb with stuff like I don't know what happened. Then in the next sentence they are saying Joran is talking shit about what he did and they would never talk shit about Joran.
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Hmm,new stuff ever day.great work,Karo,what else can you expect out of a cat.Freddy does seem to know everything,isn't he the film maker?
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