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greeneyedlady
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July 02, 2007, 08:39:58 PM »
Does anyone here...Klaas,Janet,Anna,Igsigs or someone else have the link to where it's stated Natalee graduated with honors, had a full ride scholarship to college?I believe I saw it before but didn't save much stuff because I really didn't think this case was gonna go on this long or that everything posted later would need backing up.I have learned tho that with all the lies and rumors that have been put out there about Natalee,Beth,Dave,Jug and now Robin,I can see I should've saved them.
Any help will be appreciated. And this post is a starter to what I need it for.TIA I want to find it with your help and post it RU to show that Natalee was an achiever and not the drunken slut,cokesnorting wild child they claim her to be-this has pissed me off and I'd like to kill it before it gets spread all over the other boards. GEL
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TO MedleyRelay-
It is sad you take up for this person (Joran) & his VDS family you've only met once-you never had the chance to meet Natalee and without even knowing if any of this true about her and she may be dead well it's a disgrace to her-you know her?"Natalee Holloway" The young lady that did you nothing,for you to denigrate her this way and she may well be all that smart honor's student and has that full ride scholarship-I guess what I'm asking how can you hate this young lady so much that you dion't want to give her the credit she may deserve?GEL
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windy city wrote:
Please accept my apologies Charles.
I havent seen documentation showing Joran was an honor student or that he had a full ride. Do you know what he gpa and class ranking were? Also, where did he get a full ride? Tia, Charles.
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MedleyRelay wrote:
Well I do know all of this and I can tell you it is a whole lot more impressive than any credentials that Natalee had on her end. This young man was quite intelligent - very high SAT scores (and to get the score he did OUT of the country is amazing) and several academic scholarships that are much more impressive than getting a scholarship to Univ of Alabama where it costs very little to go in the first place. I am not putting Natalee down I am just sick and tired of people not understanding some basic truths there. and Joran's credentials if you want to talk about credentials were far more impressive than hers were!
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GEL
- I don't remember where I saw it but I'll search. It was published/posted early in the case.
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Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
Does anyone here...Klaas,Janet,Anna,Igsigs or someone else have the link to where it's stated Natalee graduated with honors, had a full ride scholarship to college?I believe I saw it before but didn't save much stuff because I really didn't think this case was gonna go on this long or that everything posted later would need backing up.I have learned tho that with all the lies and rumors that have been put out there about Natalee,Beth,Dave,Jug and now Robin,I can see I should've saved them.
Any help will be appreciated. And this post is a starter to what I need it for.TIA I want to find it with your help and post it RU to show that Natalee was an achiever and not the drunken slut,cokesnorting wild child they claim her to be-this has pissed me off and I'd like to kill it before it gets spread all over the other boards. GEL
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TO MedleyRelay-
It is sad you take up for this person (Joran) & his VDS family you've only met once-you never had the chance to meet Natalee and without even knowing if any of this true about her and she may be dead well it's a disgrace to her-you know her?"Natalee Holloway" The young lady that did you nothing,for you to denigrate her this way and she may well be all that smart honor's student and has that full ride scholarship-I guess what I'm asking how can you hate this young lady so much that you dion't want to give her the credit she may deserve?GEL
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windy city wrote:
Please accept my apologies Charles.
I havent seen documentation showing Joran was an honor student or that he had a full ride. Do you know what he gpa and class ranking were? Also, where did he get a full ride? Tia, Charles.
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MedleyRelay wrote:
Well I do know all of this and I can tell you it is a whole lot more impressive than any credentials that Natalee had on her end. This young man was quite intelligent - very high SAT scores (and to get the score he did OUT of the country is amazing) and several academic scholarships that are much more impressive than getting a scholarship to Univ of Alabama where it costs very little to go in the first place. I am not putting Natalee down I am just sick and tired of people not understanding some basic truths there. and Joran's credentials if you want to talk about credentials were far more impressive than hers were!
Yeah I am sure it is a real bitch to graduate from Pimping 101, Rape 102 and Murder 103
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The Tragic untold Story of Natalee Holloway and Corruption in Paradise
by Dave Holloway
page 3
As Natalee completed her senior year, we were all excited about her next stepping stone in life. She was prepared to go off to the University of Alabama on a full scholarship to major in premed after graduating with honors and a 4.15 grade point average from Mountain Brook High School.
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Quote from: "Lala'sMom"
Evening monkeys. I see Chuckrat is upset at being called Chuck. What's wrong with that nickname anyway? I used to have a dog named Chuck. Why is he even worried about anyone knowing his identity. I have known who he was from the first night he posted here on SM. Gee, he's a bit testy to be a lawyer isn't he? I assume he does know that there are those that have a copy of pretty much everything he's ever said about Natalee and her family, surely he jests. This is a joke, right?
Or eyes and snout for the Tacopina law firm...He's got way too much interest in slammin the Holloway's and defending Aruba for anyone with no real connection.
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Profile of Natalee Holloway
From Charles Montaldo,
Missing: Natalee Holloway participated in a trip with 125 seniors from Mountain Brook High School to Aruba in the Caribbean. In the early morning hours on May 30, 2005 Natalee was seen leaving a nightclub and getting into a vehicle. She failed to turn up Monday morning for her return flight home and she has not been seen since. Foul play is suspected in her disappearance.
Profile: Natalee Holloway was born on October 21, 1986 to Beth and Dave Holloway. She grew up in the close-knit community of Mountain Brook, a suburb of Birmingham, Alabama.
She was very popular and respected by her classmates and had a reputation among peers at being very intelligent and focused on her future. She lived up to her reputation, graduating as an honors student from the Mountain Brook High School.
Extracurricular Activities: During Natalle's high school years she participated several extracurricular activities including:
The American Field Service - A club which interacts with the foreign exchange students.
Dorians Dance Team
Future Business Leaders of America
Mu Alpha Theta - Math honor society
Natural Helpers - A peer based emotional support group.
Outdoors Club
Spanish Club
Spanish Honor Society
Spartan Pride - School pep group.
TASC - Teens Actively Serving the Community
Future Goals:
Natalee received a full scholarship to the University of Alabama. She planned to major in Pre-Med, in order to pursue her goal of being a pediatrician
http://crime.about.com/od/missing/p/nholloway.htm
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,159252,00.html
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In Holloway's hometown, her friends gathered after midnight at a church where people have been holding prayer vigils for her. Some hugged and cried; one woman left a flickering candle at the base of a wall decorated with messages to Holloway,
who had earned a full scholarship
to the University of Alabama, where she planned to study medicine.
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http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=1819038&page=1
Book Excerpt: Natalee Holloway's Father Speaks
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As Natalee completed her senior year, we were all excited about her next stepping stone in life.
She was prepared to go off to the University of Alabama on a full scholarship to major in premed after graduating with honors and a 4.15 grade point average from Mountain Brook High School
. She participated in numerous extracurricular activities, including the dance team and the Bible Club, and she was a member of both the math and Spanish honor societies. She had a part-time job at a health food store and performed volunteer work. She has some great friends, is well-traveled, and has always looked toward the future.
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Sorry BB - I didn't mean to duplicate
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I do wish Miss Medley would post some facts about Joran's brilliance and her sources. For instance:
What were his SAT scores?
To which prestigious universities was he granted admittance and full scholarships?
If they don't have a grade point average system in Aruba, where did he fall on whatever scale they use for measuring academic achievement?
Please, please do answer these questions for me, Miss Medley.
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Quote from: "klaasend"
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,159252,00.html
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In Holloway's hometown, her friends gathered after midnight at a church where people have been holding prayer vigils for her. Some hugged and cried; one woman left a flickering candle at the base of a wall decorated with messages to Holloway,
who had earned a full scholarship
to the University of Alabama, where she planned to study medicine.
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yeah, real medicine - not like Dr. Satish. That would be a Witch Doctor.
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greeneyedlady
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Quote from: "klaasend"
GEL
- I don't remember where I saw it but I'll search. It was published/posted early in the case.
Thanks Klaas-I saw it early on too,just can't remember where.
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Sue
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It is quite obvious to me that Joran clearly isnt as smart as some would want us to think.. Or why oh why would he even be in this situation
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It is quite obvious to me that Joran clearly isnt as smart as some would want us to think.. Or why oh why would he even be in this situation
I remember reading that he received partial atheletic scholarships to I think it was 4 schools in Florida. St Leo's was one of them.
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Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
Does anyone here...Klaas,Janet,Anna,Igsigs or someone else have the link to where it's stated Natalee graduated with honors, had a full ride scholarship to college?I believe I saw it before but didn't save much stuff because I really didn't think this case was gonna go on this long or that everything posted later would need backing up.I have learned tho that with all the lies and rumors that have been put out there about Natalee,Beth,Dave,Jug and now Robin,I can see I should've saved them.
Any help will be appreciated. And this post is a starter to what I need it for.TIA I want to find it with your help and post it RU to show that Natalee was an achiever and not the drunken slut,cokesnorting wild child they claim her to be-this has pissed me off and I'd like to kill it before it gets spread all over the other boards. GEL
~~~~~
TO MedleyRelay-
It is sad you take up for this person (Joran) & his VDS family you've only met once-you never had the chance to meet Natalee and without even knowing if any of this true about her and she may be dead well it's a disgrace to her-you know her?"Natalee Holloway" The young lady that did you nothing,for you to denigrate her this way and she may well be all that smart honor's student and has that full ride scholarship-I guess what I'm asking how can you hate this young lady so much that you dion't want to give her the credit she may deserve?GEL
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@ FOB
windy city wrote:
Please accept my apologies Charles.
I havent seen documentation showing Joran was an honor student or that he had a full ride. Do you know what he gpa and class ranking were? Also, where did he get a full ride? Tia, Charles.
~~~~
MedleyRelay wrote:
Well I do know all of this and I can tell you it is a whole lot more impressive than any credentials that Natalee had on her end. This young man was quite intelligent - very high SAT scores (and to get the score he did OUT of the country is amazing) and several academic scholarships that are much more impressive than getting a scholarship to Univ of Alabama where it costs very little to go in the first place. I am not putting Natalee down I am just sick and tired of people not understanding some basic truths there. and Joran's credentials if you want to talk about credentials were far more impressive than hers were!
Just so Medley will know...attending the University of Alabama is not cheap. I know this for a fact. If she doubts it I can forward my own child's bills from there for her to pay. BTW, what was Joran's SAT score? Was he planning to attend Harvard? Oh, wait, that's right, he was attending a University in Florida. Was it Florida or Florida State? Maybe Miami? I can't seem to recall the name of the University he was planning to attend. I will gladly compare my own child's grades with Joran's any day. My child is not a genius by any means, but I bet she could blow his credentials out the window.
Sorry...pissed me off. I am sick of hearing them bad mouth Natalee and what she would have accomplished had she been allowed to live. She may have gotten in that car with those jerks, but they didn't have to do anything to her but take her back to her hotel...just like they told her they would. Deepak had the power to see that she got there safely and had he had the balls to do so, he knew what was going on, Natalee would be at the University of Alabama pursuing a medical degree and Joran...well he would be somewhere I am sure. I doubt he would be doing anything similar to what Natalee would be doing now.
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Quote from: "BTgirl"
I do wish Miss Medley would post some facts about Joran's brilliance and her sources. For instance:
What were his SAT scores?
To which prestigious universities was he granted admittance and full scholarships?
If they don't have a grade point average system in Aruba, where did he fall on whatever scale they use for measuring academic achievement?
Please, please do answer these questions for me, Miss Medley.
I would like some of THOSE FINE PEOPLE with Aruba connections to find out why The Casino's and C&C's were never (as far as I know) even slapped on the wrist for allowing under age crimes to occur on a regular basis (when It came to Joran)
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Heck-now I can't get RU to load up.I'll try again in a few minutes.
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Quote from: "klaasend"
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,159252,00.html
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In Holloway's hometown, her friends gathered after midnight at a church where people have been holding prayer vigils for her. Some hugged and cried; one woman left a flickering candle at the base of a wall decorated with messages to Holloway,
who had earned a full scholarship
to the University of Alabama, where she planned to study medicine.
(snipped)
yeah, real medicine - not like Dr. Satish. That would be a Witch Doctor.
I still think that is
THE
funniest thing to come out of this mess. Satis was on his like 3rd attempt to graduate out of 12th grade and his mom proclaims that Satish is poised to become a medical doctor!!!!
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Quote from: "greeneyedlady"
Heck-now I can't get RU to load up.I'll try again in a few minutes.
GEL
- I was having problems too but it just loaded for me
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Questionable source, saying nothing more than Joran was on the honor roll in HS.
The report led off by saying that depending on who you spoke with, Van der Sloot was either a good kid and an honor student - or a troubled teen with problems. However, they didn't report anything material to point to the former characterization.
I have viewed and saved some files indicating his securing a position on the Honor Roll at the International School,
as well as being commended for other educational and extra-curricular activities.
http://tinyurl.com/2jfc6k
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===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
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