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« Reply #140 on: January 21, 2014, 09:50:55 PM »





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« Reply #141 on: January 21, 2014, 09:53:37 PM »

Kaine Horman - Deposition

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/kainehorman.pdf


Rudy Sanchez - Deposition

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/Emergency%20Hearing%20Motion.pdf





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« Reply #142 on: January 22, 2014, 09:38:47 AM »




At the end of the day, past all the adult stuff, drama, accusations, lies, etc.  I look at this photo of Kyron and it brings it all home.  Where is he?  It seems like we've waded through so much over time.  Where is Kyron?  Are we any closer to knowing what happened to seven year old Kyron while he was at school? 
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« Reply #143 on: January 22, 2014, 12:32:31 PM »




At the end of the day, past all the adult stuff, drama, accusations, lies, etc.  I look at this photo of Kyron and it brings it all home.  Where is he?  It seems like we've waded through so much over time.  Where is Kyron?  Are we any closer to knowing what happened to seven year old Kyron while he was at school? 
 

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I don't know about "we" but those involved in the Kyron Horman case have knowledge and ... in ongoing briefings that knowledge is being conveyed to Kaine and Desiree.

If Kyron's parents who are on a desperate quest for the truth imply in statements, interviews and press conferences that Terri is behind the disappearance of their son ... I have their backs.  After all ... the Kaine and Desiree is derived from an official foundation.

It may be wishful thinking but my hope is the dots are being connected in a 3 1/2 year layered and far reaching investigation; indictments are forthcoming and justice will prevail for Kyron.

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Kaine Horman and Desiree Young to appear on 'Dr. Phil' Show on Tuesday
September 16, 2013


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On Monday, Kaine Horman released a written statement to local media, saying he'd be unavailable for comment for the next several weeks.

"Based on the current legal process and several activities either in-flight or recently completed I will be unavailable for comment for the next several weeks,'' he wrote in an email. He did say he wanted to emphasize that law enforcement is still actively investigating his son's disappearance and making progress.

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http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/09/kaine_horman_and_desiree_young.html


Kaine, MCSO committed to 'bringing Kyron home'
Updated: Tuesday, July 30, 2013, 2:20 PM PDT
Published: Tuesday, July 30, 2013, 2:20 PM PDT


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Just minutes before Kaine Horman's news conference, the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office sent out the following statement on the Kyron Horman missing person's case:

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"We continue to work with our investigative partners and the Multnomah County District Attorney's Office as we maintain the case integrity, development of leads and information gathered through the course of the investigation.

"The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office remains in close contact with the parents of Kyron regarding the course of the investigation.

"In addition, Sheriff Staton has met regularly with Kaine Horman concerning the investigation and to ensure they are fully aware of the current course of action being taken by investigators
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"Sheriff Staton wants the citizens of Multnomah County to know this criminal investigation remains a high priority for the Sheriff's Office and that it will continue unimpeded. The integrity and security of the investigation remains foremost for this agency.

"The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office is unable to comment on specifics of the investigation but would like to reiterate its commitment to finding and bringing Kyron home and bringing closure to Kyron's family and the investigation.

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http://www.koin.com/news/31700-autosav


Attorneys for Kaine Horman and Terri Horman continue to argue over who can ask what in depositions
September 13, 2013 at 8:30 AM
updated September 24, 2013 at 8:53 AM


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Chief Deputy District Attorney Don Rees has filed a separate motion to limit Terri Horman's deposition of Kaine Horman.

Because Kaine Horman is the victim of "an apparent crime against his own child,'' he has a legal right to information about his missing son, Rees argued.

"The fact that law enforcement has necessarily conveyed this information to Kaine Horman does not waive the longstanding and well-recognized privileged and confidential nature of information relating to a pending criminal investigation,'' Rees wrote.

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http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/10/attorneys_for_kaine_horman_and.html

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« Reply #144 on: January 22, 2014, 02:03:54 PM »

Think about it.  After 3 1/2 years of investigative briefings Desiree and Kaine have not budged one iota in their contentions that Terri holds the answers that could bring closure to the case.   What are investigators sharing in those briefings?

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FEBRUARY, 2011

"Right before the holidays Tony and I received a briefing from LE where they gave us all the evidence on the case.  We're confident from that briefing that we have the right person.  Terri put everything in writing.  She had a severe severe hatred for Kyron and she made no mystery to how she felt.  She very clearly wanted him out of her life." Desiree Young - Press Conference - February 22, 2011


http://www.kpic.com/news/116678914.html?t=a&video=pop


SEPTEMBER, 2013

"I am 150 percent confident that Terri Horman should be charged in the case."  Maybe we haven't found Kyron yet but we have a lot of circumstantial evidence tying Terri to Kyron's disappearance."   Desiree Young - September 18, 2013

http://ijpr.org/post/kyron-horman-search-his-mother-continues
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« Reply #145 on: January 22, 2014, 04:21:32 PM »


To maintain the integrity of the investigation ... Kaine and Desiree may not reveal the investigative details that implicate Terri in the disappearance of their son.  Nevertheless ... what they do share is not pulled out of thin air ... it is gleaned from official sources during ongoing briefings.

Unless confirmed otherwise from identified credible sources ... the foundation of my speculations encompassing the Kyron Hormon case will continue to be derived from the words/quotes of Kaine, Desiree and official sources within the judiciary and investigation.

Example:

1. If a spokesperson for the investigation states in a release that Terri is the last known person seen with Kyron ... Terri is the last known person seen with Kyron.

2.  If a member of the judiciary states that Terri can be considered the prime suspect within the Kyron Horman investigation ... Terri can be considered the prime suspect within the Kyron Horman investigation.

3.  If Kyron's parents continue to state that ongoing briefings with investigators have convinced them that Terri is behind the disappearance of their son ... then Terri is behind the disappearance of their son.

In other cases I have been accused of suspecting a conspiracy when there is none.  In the Kyron Horman case I do not suspect a conspiracy.  It is my contention that Kaine and Desiree ... who do not have a clue whether they precious son is dead or alive ... safe or at risk ... are desperately seeking the truth.  IF they were not convinced that Terri was withholding that truth ... their focus would not be on Terri ... their focus would have taken another direction long ago.

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Police led Kaine to believe Terri involved in Kyron's disappearance
Posted on July 8, 2010 at 12:05 PM


PORTLAND, Ore. -- Police provided Kaine Horman with probable cause to believe that his wife Terri Moulton-Horman was involved in 7-year-old Kyron's disappearance and a murder-for-hire attempt against him, a restraining order showed.

A Multnomah County judge made the key document public Thursday.

"I believe Respondent (Terri) is involved in the disappearance of my son Kyron who has been missing since June 4, 2010," Kaine stated in the filing. "I also recently learned that Respondent (Terri) attempted to hire someone to murder me. The police have provided me with probable cause to believe the above two statements to be true," Horman wrote.

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http://www.kgw.com/news/Key-Horman-document-could-be-made-public-97975779.html

http://media.kgw.com/documents/restraining-order-horman.pdf


Kyron Horman's father: 'Growing evidence' against Terri
Posted on August 15, 2012 at 2:23 PM


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Desiree Young, Kyron Horman's mother, filed the civil suit nearly two years after Kyron Horman disappeared from Skyline School.

Terri Horman, the boy's stepmother and the subject of Young's suit, was the last person known to have seen Kyron. He was 7 when he disappeared June 4, 2010. The civil lawsuit accuses Horman of kidnapping Kyron, by herself or with help.

Kyron's father Kaine Horman said police have growing evidence against Terri.

"It's significantly strengthened their belief that she had involvement in the situation."


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http://www.nwcn.com/news?fId=166253236&fPath=/news/local&fDomain=10202

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« Reply #146 on: January 22, 2014, 08:48:36 PM »



A very interesting read in its entirety.  IMO

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Sealed Indictment Law & Legal Definition

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A sealed indictment an indictment that is sealed so that it stays non-public until it is unsealed. This can be done for a number of reasons. It may be unsealed, for example, once the named person is arrested.

The following is an example of a federal rule dealing with sealed indictments:

The magistrate judge to whom an indictment is returned may direct that the indictment be kept secret until the defendant is in custody or has been released pending trial. The clerk must then seal the indictment, and no person may disclose the indictment’s existence except as necessary to issue or execute a warrant or summons.

http://definitions.uslegal.com/s/sealed-indictment/



Were attorneys Chad Stavely and Peter Bunch privy at the getgo to the existence of a "secret" sealed indictment regarding Terri?  Was Judge Kantor privy to the existence of a sealed indictment?

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CHAD STAVELY

Attorney: Spicher shared Terri Horman emails, texts with cops
Posted on July 26, 2010 at 12:09 PM


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Stavley also told NBC Dateline Monday that Spicher had been, and planned to keep, cooperating with investigators. He said that she had already shared text messages and emails sent to and from Terri with detectives.

"I would be, frankly, surprised if Terri Horman did not eventually face charges in this case," Stavley said. "I'd be surprised if the indictment didn't come down."

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http://www.kgw.com/news/local/DeDe-Spicher-testifies-before-grand-jury-99252004-kyron-horman-missing-portland.html


PETER BUNCH

Terri Moulton Horman, focus in stepson Kyron Horman's disappearance, shows for divorce hearing
August 25, 2010 at 2:40 PM


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In a legal memo filed today, Bunch argues that Terri Horman can't proceed at this time to protect her rights to property, custody and parenting time because she is a "de facto suspect" in the disappearance of Kyron and at the center of a police investigation.

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http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/terri_moulton_horman_appears_i.html

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/terri-horman-court-memo.pdf


Judge delays Terri and Kaine Horman's divorce case until January, agrees Terri faces 'substantial legal risk'
October 07, 2010 at 9:36 PM
updated October 08, 2010 at 11:37 AM


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Although a suspect hasn't been named in Kyron's disappearance, investigators have been intently focused on Terri Horman. Even Bunch said Thursday, "There's no doubt she's in the cross hairs of the state's investigation."

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http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/10/judge_delays_terri_and_kaine_h.html


JUDGE KANTOR

Judge calls stepmother 'prime suspect' in Kyron Horman case
Posted on August 21, 2012 at 5:12 PM


PORTLAND – A judge in the civil lawsuit of missing Portland boy Kyron Horman has issued his decision not to grant a stay in the civil case, and laid out rules for attorneys to gather evidence.

Last week, a judge denied the motion by Kyron's stepmother Terri Horman to delay the civil lawsuit filed against her by the boy's mother Desiree Young.

Judge Henry Kantor referred to her as a “prime suspect” in the investigation, although Terri Horman has never been formally named a suspect in any criminal case.

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http://www.king5.com/news/Judge-calls-stepmother-prime-suspect-in-Kyron-Horman-case-166981086.html

http://media.king5.com/documents/kyron+judge+doc+821.pdf



Could it be the Kaine and Desiree were privy from the get go to the existence of a "secret" sealed indictment targeting Terri's as one participant in the disappearance of Kyron?

Could it be that the 3 1/2 year investigation has been all about connecting the dots in regards to other participants in the chain of events encompassing the morning of June 4, 2010 ... a chain of events that could provide the link tha could lead to the return of Kyron?

Could it be that this is the reason that Kaine and Desiree have not filed a lawsuit holding PPS accountable for the disappearance of their son on their watch?

Think about it.  3 1/2 years later those involved in the Kyron Horman case insist there is an ongoing active investigation ... an ongoing active investigation that will not permit current lawsuits to compromise.


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Kaine, MCSO committed to 'bringing Kyron home'
Updated: Tuesday, July 30, 2013, 2:20 PM PDT
Published: Tuesday, July 30, 2013, 2:20 PM PDT


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Just minutes before Kaine Horman's news conference, the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office sent out the following statement on the Kyron Horman missing person's case:

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"Sheriff Staton wants the citizens of Multnomah County to know this criminal investigation remains a high priority for the Sheriff's Office and that it will continue unimpeded. The integrity and security of the investigation remains foremost for this agency.

"The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office is unable to comment on specifics of the investigation but would like to reiterate its commitment to finding and bringing Kyron home and bringing closure to Kyron's family and the investigation.

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http://www.koin.com/news/31700-autosav
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« Reply #147 on: January 23, 2014, 12:21:30 PM »

Did Desiree and Kaine pull their words out of thin air?  I don't think so.   Could there have been an official investigative foundation from the get go that Kyron's parents derived what they asserted in the statements, interviews and press conferences?

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THE POLYGRAPHS

Family: Terri Horman failed polygraphs; 'she's lying'
Published: Jul 9, 2010 at 6:38 AM PST


Desiree Young, the biological mother of missing 7-year-old Kyron Horman, said during an afternoon news conference Thursday she knows his stepmother, Terri Moulton Horman, is lying, and the boy's father said that Terri failed two polygraph tests.

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“I think everyone knows she took two polygraphs,” Kaine said. “She has not passed those polygraphs.”

Desiree and Kaine said they also took polygraph tests and “passed with flying colors.”


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Video - New Conference
http://www.kpic.com/news/local/98109039.html


A REMINDER

Police led Kaine to believe Terri involved in Kyron's disappearance
Posted on July 8, 2010 at 12:05 PM


PORTLAND, Ore. -- Police provided Kaine Horman with probable cause to believe that his wife Terri Moulton-Horman was involved in 7-year-old Kyron's disappearance and a murder-for-hire attempt against him, a restraining order showed.

A Multnomah County judge made the key document public Thursday.

"I believe Respondent (Terri) is involved in the disappearance of my son Kyron who has been missing since June 4, 2010," Kaine stated in the filing. "I also recently learned that Respondent (Terri) attempted to hire someone to murder me. The police have provided me with probable cause to believe the above two statements to be true," Horman wrote.

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http://www.kgw.com/news/Key-Horman-document-could-be-made-public-97975779.html

http://media.kgw.com/documents/restraining-order-horman.pdf

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« Reply #148 on: January 23, 2014, 12:37:54 PM »

Kyron Horman Missing and Endangered: Terri Horman Leaves the House
Friday 16 July 2010 6:15 pm


21.  twinkletoes says:
July 23, 2010 at 4:56 pm

And since I am already unpopular today . . . What if Terri and Dede aren’t talking because they have already told all they know and there is nothing more to tell? What if what Terri and DeDe are talking but not saying what LE wants to hear?

And remember, ladies and gentlemen, the MFH is an allegation–we have nothing but the word of hitman/weed puller. And no arrest. For me, that speaks volumes. Last time I checked, conspiracy to murder is pretty serious criminal offense. If LE isn’t sure on this allegation, how can we be?

Twinkle is right to question it. Frankly, I am not sure I would personally publish an accusation like that and I have the damn first amendment on my side, lol.

However, I do believe there is substantial good faith basis for the family to say what they did or LE would ask them not to.

Actually, LE is using the media in the best possible way in this case, imo.

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« Reply #149 on: January 23, 2014, 02:08:05 PM »

"Trying to press forward to find Kyron and protect my daughter are the two things that are in the highest priorities."   Kaine Horman - June 30, 2013

http://www.koin.com/news/31700-autosave


A stay-at-home Mom is often the caregiver of children the lion share of the time.  Nevertheless ... what Dad would not give his all to prevent Mom from being afforded custody of an infant daughter IF LE had informed him that she was behind the disappearance of his seven year old son and had attempted a MFH plot against him?  Why is Kaine faulted on some forums?

BTW.  The January 12th hearing?  Did it happen?

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Divorce for Kaine, Terri Horman finalized at emergency hearing
Posted: Dec 31, 2013 3:20 PM PST
Updated: Dec 31, 2013 07:20 PM


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This month, the proceedings seemed to be moving forward as court documents outlined Terri Horman's desire to seek temporary custody of the couple's 5-year-old daughter, Kiara.

The girl has been with her father since June 2010.

Kaine Horman's legal team argued visitation for Terri Horman would only traumatize their daughter.

However, court documents filed by Terri Horman's attorneys cited information from a deposition of Kaine Horman, where he stated they were "average" parents and admitted Terri Horman cared for Kiara between 50 and 75 percent of the time, "at minimum."

The resolution of custody, or parenting time with Kiara was not finalized in Tuesday's divorce agreement.

Kaine Horman's lawyer tells FOX 12 that the decision regarding Kiara is being postponed until after a custody and parenting time evaluation is undertaken by a doctor. 

After that evaluation, there is a court date set in June to resolve Custody issues.

In the meantime, court documents do state that Terri Horman's is responsible for paying $224 a month in child support.

Kiara is set to start kindergarten in the fall of 2014, according to the court documents, and child support will be recalculated at that time to take into account possible new day care costs.

Another hearing is scheduled for Jan. 12.

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http://www.wfsb.com/story/24338663/divorce-between-kaine-terri-horman-finalized-at-emergency-hearing
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« Reply #150 on: January 23, 2014, 02:12:31 PM »

Think about the outcome in the Susan Powell case ... the outcome that ended with the death of two little boys at the hands of their father who for two years investigators were focused on in the disappearance of their mother.

Akin to Kaine Horman ... Chuck Cox harboured the same fears for his grandsons' well being.

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Chuck Cox: ‘Too many warning signs’ regarding Josh Powell
Posted: 12:20 p.m. Monday, Feb. 6, 2012


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Chuck Cox said it’s clearer than ever, in his mind, that Powell was responsible for the disappearance of Susan Cox Powell – the Coxes' daughter and Powell’s wife – in Utah two years ago. He said he thought Powell was feeling pressure from the investigation into his wife’s disappearance, in which police had called Powell a person of interest.
 
“He was going to lose in his way,” Chuck Cox said. “It was cowardly.”
 
Cox said he warned police, social workers, lawyers and anyone else who would listen that he felt Powell might try something desperate.
 
“We felt that if he – Josh – felt that there was no hope -- that he was losing, or was gonna end up in jail or something – that he would do something very desperate and could possibly harm the children or take them with him in a murder-suicide thing,” Cox said. “Well, there you go.

 
Powell, despite being the only person of interest in the case, had refused to cooperate with detectives. For that reason and many others, Chuck Cox said he thinks the deaths of his grandsons could have, and should have, been avoided.
 
“There were too many warning signs that were known, but due to legal limitations, were unable to be acted upon,” he said. “So we ended up where we ended up.”

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http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/crime-law/chuck-cox-too-many-warning-signs-regarding-josh-po/nHWNk/





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« Reply #151 on: January 23, 2014, 02:56:52 PM »

When the timing of the email Terri sent to Kaine is considered and ... when the following timeline in regards to 911 calls is considered ... could it be that Kaine was at home during the sting?  Could it be that Kaine was a witness to the sting?

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911 calls made before missing Oregon boy's father moved out
Published: Jun 30, 2010 at 8:42 PM PST
Last Updated: Oct 30, 2013 at 7:44 AM PST


PORTLAND, Ore. - There were not one, but two 911 calls placed from Kyron Horman's home last Saturday night, the Bureau of Emergency Communications confirmed Wednesday.

A log of the calls revealed the first report came in at 5:18 p.m. and lasted 13 minutes. Dispatchers said the caller reported threats made inside the family's home in Multnomah County.

The second 911 call was made from the home at 11:39 p.m., and was recorded by dispatchers as a child custody issue.


The calls came on the same day Kyron's father, Kaine Horman, moved out of the family's home, taking the couple's 18-month-old daughter, Kiara Horman, with him. The Bureau of Emergency Communications wouldn't disclose the identity of the caller.

Two days after the calls were made, Kaine Horman filed for divorce from his wife and the missing boy's stepmother, Terri Horman, and was granted a restraining order against her. The order bars Terri Horman from being near the couple's daughter and owning a firearm.

Judge Keith Meisenheimer sealed the restraining order out of fear its content might jeopardize the ongoing investigation into the disappearance of the boy, who vanished some time after his stepmother left him at his Portland elementary school on June 4.

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http://www.komonews.com/news/97550009.html



E-Mails Shed Light On Day Of Horman Split
POSTED: 12:28 pm PDT August 10, 2010
UPDATED: 12:54 pm PDT August 10, 2010


PORTLAND, Ore. -- E-mails written by Terri Horman and obtained by FOX 12 give insight into her reaction the day her husband moved out of the family's northwest Portland home with their daughter.

Horman -- the stepmother of missing 7-year-old Kyron Horman -- wrote an e-mail June 26 accusing her husband of illegally taking the toddler.

"OK, I love you but this is ridiculous. What you are doing is parental child abduction and is illegal. I need to know where my daughter is and if she is safe. You were really upset with me when you left. What is it that I/we need to do to reconcile this? I don't want to call 911 but I need a resolution please. If I don't hear from you in an hour I will call 911," Terri Horman wrote to Kaine Horman.

About an hour later, Terri Horman e-mailed a friend and said she called 911 but was directed to a non-emergency dispatcher.

"Guess what? Since we are married we have joint custody and he can do that. Gee, too bad I didn't know that," she wrote.

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http://www.kptv.com/news/24581546/detail.html

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« Reply #152 on: January 23, 2014, 04:13:22 PM »

"Trying to press forward to find Kyron and protect my daughter are the two things that are in the highest priorities."   Kaine Horman - June 30, 2013

http://www.koin.com/news/31700-autosave


A stay-at-home Mom is often the caregiver of children the lion share of the time.  Nevertheless ... I cannot comprehend any Dad who would not give his all to prevent Mom from being afforded custody of an infant daughter IF LE had informed him that she was behind the disappearance of his seven year old son and had attempted a MFH plot against him?  Why is Kaine often faulted?

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Kyron Horman Missing: Kaine And Terri Horman Face Off In Family Court
Thursday 7 October 2010 11:24


Following this afternoon’s legal melee, blinkoncrime.com Editor In Chief asked prominent Washington State Family Law Attorney, Lea Conner, to weigh in:

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There’s a disconnect between Mr. Bunch’s argument that Ms. Horman cannot defend herself because she would incriminate herself in the disappearance of her stepson, and his statement that “If Mr. Horman is really interested in what‘s best for the child, then Mr. Horman wouldn’t object to any visitation by this child’s mother.”

The apparent logic is that Ms. Horman admits that if she speaks, she will incriminate herself in some as-yet-to-be-named crime related to Kyron’s disappearance, yet Mr. Horman is now supposed to trust her to care for his other child, because that’s so obviously in their daughter’s best interest.

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http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/10/07/kyron-horman-missing-kaine-and-terri-horman-face-off-in-family-court/
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« Reply #153 on: January 24, 2014, 09:46:17 PM »

Why did Terri not bring Kyron's project home?  If she left the school prior to the end of the science fair ... why did she not return to retrieve it prior to going home?  Why did she not pick up both Kyron and the project at the end of the school day?

Why did Terri really require the truck?  Could it be that unlike the red mustang it was less inconspicuous?

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Kaine Horman answers KATU's questions
Published: Jul 16, 2010 at 9:53 PM PST
Last Updated: Jul 17, 2010 at 9:06 AM PST


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KATU: Kaine, why did you and Terri switch cars the day Kyron disappeared? Did you typically drive the white truck, and Terri the red mustang? Did she request to have the truck that day?

Kaine: I typically drive the truck and Terri drives the car. She wanted to use the truck to bring Kyron’s science fair project home, easier done with the truck than the car, although she did not stay for the duration of the science fair - per her statements that the media has reported.

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http://www.katu.com/news/local/98654424.html


Investigators seek witnesses who saw Horman’s white truck
Published: Aug 11, 2010 at 10:23 AM PST
Last Updated: Nov 24, 2013 at 5:46 PM PST


PORTLAND, Ore. – Investigators in the Kyron Horman case want to talk to anyone who saw the white truck Terri Horman drove the day Kyron disappeared and released specific times and places during a Wednesday news conference they are interested in knowing about.

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http://www.katu.com/news/local/100455014.html?tab=video&c=y

http://media.katu.com/documents/081110_PressConferenceFlier.pdf


 
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« Reply #154 on: January 25, 2014, 12:47:06 AM »

Terri had been separated from her daughter for over 4 months when her motion contesting the restraining order was dropped ... the restraining that implicated her in the disappearance of her stepson and involved her in a MFH against her husband.  Why?  Would a mother who was innocent of both accusations not have moved heaven and earth to be reunited with her child?

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Terri Moulton Horman drops motion seeking parenting time with Kiara
November 03, 2010 at 11:53 AM
updated November 03, 2010 at 8:37 PM


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Terri Moulton Horman's attorneys have withdrawn their motion seeking parenting time for their client with her daughter after her estranged husband's lawyer informed them that  they would face extensive discovery, "multiple depositions" and subpoenas for their client's medical records.

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http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/11/terri_moulton_horman_withdraws.html

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/horman-motion.PDF


Police led Kaine to believe Terri involved in Kyron's disappearance
Posted on July 8, 2010 at 12:05 PM


PORTLAND, Ore. -- Police provided Kaine Horman with probable cause to believe that his wife Terri Moulton-Horman was involved in 7-year-old Kyron's disappearance and a murder-for-hire attempt against him, a restraining order showed.

A Multnomah County judge made the key document public Thursday.

"I believe Respondent (Terri) is involved in the disappearance of my son Kyron who has been missing since June 4, 2010," Kaine stated in the filing. "I also recently learned that Respondent (Terri) attempted to hire someone to murder me. The police have provided me with probable cause to believe the above two statements to be true," Horman wrote.

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http://www.kgw.com/news/Key-Horman-document-could-be-made-public-97975779.html

http://media.kgw.com/documents/restraining-order-horman.pdf

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« Reply #155 on: January 25, 2014, 12:04:05 PM »

Think about the outcome in Susan Powell case ... the outcome that ended with the death of two little boys at the hands of their father who investigators were focused on in the disappearance of their mother two years previous.

Akin to Kaine Horman ... Chuck Cox harboured the same fears for his grandsons' well being.

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Chuck Cox: ‘Too many warning signs’ regarding Josh Powell
Posted: 12:20 p.m. Monday, Feb. 6, 2012


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Chuck Cox said it’s clearer than ever, in his mind, that Powell was responsible for the disappearance of Susan Cox Powell – the Coxes' daughter and Powell’s wife – in Utah two years ago. He said he thought Powell was feeling pressure from the investigation into his wife’s disappearance, in which police had called Powell a person of interest.
 
“He was going to lose in his way,” Chuck Cox said. “It was cowardly.”
 
Cox said he warned police, social workers, lawyers and anyone else who would listen that he felt Powell might try something desperate.
 
“We felt that if he – Josh – felt that there was no hope -- that he was losing, or was gonna end up in jail or something – that he would do something very desperate and could possibly harm the children or take them with him in a murder-suicide thing,” Cox said. “Well, there you go.

 
Powell, despite being the only person of interest in the case, had refused to cooperate with detectives. For that reason and many others, Chuck Cox said he thinks the deaths of his grandsons could have, and should have, been avoided.
 
“There were too many warning signs that were known, but due to legal limitations, were unable to be acted upon,” he said. “So we ended up where we ended up.”

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http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/crime-law/chuck-cox-too-many-warning-signs-regarding-josh-po/nHWNk/







For 3 years Terri's attorneys made the choice not to legally challenged the restraining order that has prevented their client from any contact with her daughter.  What changed in 2013?  Could it be that Terri's attorneys took the chance that ...  akin  to Desiree's lawsuit and Kaine's divorce petition ... investigators would continue to keep a tight rein on incriminating  investigative evidence against their client in BOTH the Kyron Horman case and the MFH case?  Could it be that Terri's attorneys made the decision to also take advantage of their client's constitutional right to plead the fifth when being deposed?  In other words ... Kaine is between a legal rock and a legal hard place in his quest to protect Kiara?

Could it be the 2013 challenge of the restraining order by Terri's attorneys will force those involved in the ongoing investigations to make hard choices on behalf of Kiara's well being?  Could it be that indictments will be handed down sooner than later?  Could the emergency divorce hearing of December 31, 2013 pave the way?

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« Reply #156 on: January 25, 2014, 12:09:18 PM »

When I consider the Dylan Redwine case ... the Hailey Dunn case ... the Susan Powell case and ... other cases with an investigative focus that have been discussed on SM forums ... I sometime have moments when an underlying fear engulfs me that justice will also remain elusive for Kyron.

It is my prayer that investigative dots are being connected behind the scenes in all these cases ...  dots that imply justice will be realized and ... a measure of closure will be afforded.

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« Reply #157 on: January 25, 2014, 01:19:21 PM »

One day following the disappearance of her stepson ... Terri claimed in an email that Kyron was observed in the company of two girls and a "man" following her departure from Skyline.  However ... 2 1/2 weeks following the disappearance ... in an official investigative statement ... Captain Jason Gates informs that Terri was the last known person seen with Kyron.  It would make sense that Terri's claim was investigated and it was determined that the alleged sighting did not happen.  2 - 2 1/2 weeks into the investigation ... Gates words imply that ANY alleged sighting of Kyron without Terri was investigated and ruled out.

When all is said and done it is my contention that Kaine and Desiree ... who have lived each day for over 3 1/2 year not having a clue whether their precious son is dead or alive ... safe or at risk ... are desperately seeking the truth.  IF they had not been convinced by investigators that Terri was withholding that truth ... their focus would not be on Terri ... their focus would have taken another direction long ago.

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Terri Horman e-mails: 'They are blaming me'
Staff Published: Aug 9, 2010 at 10:14 PM PST
Last Updated: Aug 10, 2010 at 12:09 PM PST


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“They are blaming me in the blogs. I just want to scream,” she wrote in one e-mail to a KATU News source the day after her stepson, Kyron Horman, was reported to be vanished from Skyline School during a science fair. Investigators say Terri Horman was the last person to see Kyron.

“ ... I left the school at 9 and he was seen with a man ‘chaperone’ and 2 girls after I left. There were no men on the chaperone list. ...”

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http://www.katu.com/news/local/100323934.html


Kyron's mom: 'So sorry that I was not there to protect you'
June 21, 2010


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Capt. Jason Gates of the Multnomah County sheriff's department issued the following statement Friday on the decision to request information on Kyron's stepmother:

"Detectives work in this case is exhaustive and they, along with Kyron's family, are asking for the community's assistance regarding anyone who saw not only Kyron, but also who may have seen Terri Horman and/or the truck she was driving that morning. Terri is the last person known to have seen him before he disappeared."

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http://edition.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/06/21/oregon.missing.boy.letter/index.html?hpt=Sbin


Kyron Horman disappearance: Skyline school parents and students will be interviewed Sunday
June 18, 2010 at 4:59 PM


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Witnesses said Kyron arrived at the school with his stepmother, Terri Moulton Horman, on Friday morning, perhaps about 8 a.m.

The stepmother said she last saw Kyron at about 8:45 a.m. walking down the hallway toward his classroom, according to a sheriff's office news release. ....

However, the sheriff's office news release says school staff did not see Kyron after 8:45 a.m. and that he did not make it to his classroom.

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http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/search_for_missing_portland_bo.html
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« Reply #158 on: January 25, 2014, 01:41:32 PM »

ive read over and over at several forums, folks asking why portland police
was not the the lead investigators, i think the answer is that the school is
out of the PP jurisdiction, look to the left of the city boundary line, you can see
NW brooks road, and skyline, the school is across from brooks road and
out of portland city boundary, you may have to zoom a little and move map to the right
http://goo.gl/maps/omKDy
district maps
http://www.portlandoregon.gov/police/30191

the science fair is not listed anymore only the talent show
move calendar back to june  2010 and look at the 4th
http://www.pps.k12.or.us/schools/skyline/203.htm
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« Reply #159 on: January 25, 2014, 03:10:02 PM »

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I just received an email from a contact informing me that she read/heard that Terri's attorneys filed new documents yesterday regarding the custody of Kiara.  I don't have a clue how to access these documents.  Could you please help?  Your research skills are amazing.  I did do some googling (Is that a word?) but could not come up with any article pertaining to these documents.

Thanks

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