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« Reply #680 on: February 27, 2015, 02:33:45 PM »



Kaine Horman - June 30, 2013

"Trying to press forward to find Kyron and protect my daughter are the two things that are in the highest priorities."

http://www.koin.com/news/31700-autosave
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« Reply #682 on: February 27, 2015, 03:57:47 PM »

Desiree Young and Elaine Hatfield live the same ongoing nightmare ... the same ongoing nightmare that justice for their respective child has never been realized.  Despite many red flags pointing at the last known known persons to be with Dyan and Kyron ... those red flags do not appear to rise to the level that defines an indictment.  In other words ... there needs to be a smoking gun in each case that connects the dots.

ELAINE HATFIELD

Dylan's mother calls for arrest of Mark Redwine
February 12, 2015


More than two years after her son's disappearance, Elaine Hatfield blames his death on her ex-husband and Dylan's father, Mark Redwine.

And she is discouraged and angry that he has not been charged with his murder.

"I know he killed Dylan," she said in a phone interview from her home in Monument, where she and her two sons had moved in 2012, before her son's disappearance. "It amazes me that he (Mark Redwine) can just leave, and we will not know where he is."

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http://www.pinerivertimes.com/article/20150212/PRT01/150219932/Dylan%27s-mother-calls-for-arrest-of-Mark-Redwine

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=14446.new#new


DESIREE YOUNG

The Kyron Horman Search: His Mother Continues
September 18, 2013


"I am 150 percent confident that Terri Horman should be charged in the case."  Maybe we haven't found Kyron yet but we have a lot of circumstantial evidence tying Terri to Kyron's disappearance. ...."

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http://ijpr.org/post/kyron-horman-search-his-mother-continues
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« Reply #683 on: February 27, 2015, 04:18:44 PM »

A scan of many SM cases will reveal that a missing smoking gun that connects investigative dots is the reason that justice has not prevailed for many victims and many families are consequently left in limbo ... are denied a measure of closure.
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« Reply #684 on: February 27, 2015, 04:53:06 PM »

Are Kaine Horman and Elaine Hatfield over-reacting in regards to safety concerns  encompassing the mindsets of Terri Horman and Mark Redwine.  I don't think so.  Read the anguish account shared by Chuck Cox ... Susan Powell's father ... regarding the deaths of his grandsons at the hands of their own father.


KAINE HORMAN

Horman hearing: Judge seeks input on how to handle landscaper testimony
FEB. 20, 2014


Kaine Horman will ask the court in June to deny his ex-wife any parenting time with their daughter, Kiara, now 5.  He'll argue that Terri Horman "presents a credible threat to the health and safety of Kiara,'' citing Sanchez's testimony, according to court documents.

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http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2014/02/post_437.html


ELAINE HATFIELD

Dylan's mother calls for arrest of Mark Redwine
February 12, 2015


Hatfield said she is concerned about her and her family's safety, including that of her eldest son, Cory Redwine, and his new son.

http://www.pinerivertimes.com/article/20150212/PRT01/150219932/Dylan%27s-mother-calls-for-arrest-of-Mark-Redwine


CHUCK COX

Chuck Cox: ‘Too many warning signs’ regarding Josh Powell
Posted: 12:20 p.m. Monday, Feb. 6, 2012


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Cox said he warned police, social workers, lawyers and anyone else who would listen that he felt Powell might try something desperate.
 
“We felt that if he – Josh – felt that there was no hope -- that he was losing, or was gonna end up in jail or something – that he would do something very desperate and could possibly harm the children or take them with him in a murder-suicide thing,” Cox said. “Well, there you go.”
 
Powell, despite being the only person of interest in the case, had refused to cooperate with detectives. For that reason and many others, Chuck Cox said he thinks the deaths of his grandsons could have, and should have, been avoided.
 
“There were too many warning signs that were known, but due to legal limitations, were unable to be acted upon,” he said. “So we ended up where we ended up.”

http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/crime-law/chuck-cox-too-many-warning-signs-regarding-josh-po/nHWNk/
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« Reply #685 on: February 27, 2015, 05:45:20 PM »

FOOD FOR THOUGHT

Could it be that there is a "secret" or "sealed" indictment against Terri?

What Is a Secret Indictment?
http://brainz.org/what-secret-indictment/


The Kyron Horman Case: Turning of The Tide

DESIREE DAVIDSON YOUNG - JULY 11, 2014


"DA's Office will prosecute for all of the murder for hire plots (oh yeah, there are several) as well as Kyron's kidnapping and subsequent charges for that, when we find Kyron. They want to hit her with both barrels, so it sticks, and she can't get off easy. Terri is going down and so are the people who have helped her along the way. ...."

https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Kyron-Horman-Case-Turning-of-The-Tide/1428477140699516
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« Reply #686 on: February 27, 2015, 09:35:04 PM »


Details Of Horman Restraining Order Unsealed
July 8, 2010


In the order, filed June 28, Kaine Horman stated he believed his wife was involved in the disappearance of their 7-year-old son, Kyron.

"I believe the respondent is involved in the disappearance of my son Kyron who has been missing since June 4, 2010. I also recently learned that respondent attempted to hire someone to murder. The police have provided me with probably cause to believe the above two statements are true," according to the order.

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http://www.kptv.com/news/24186798/detail.html

http://www.kptv.com/download/2010/0708/24186795.pdf


Not only was Kaine convinced when he fled the family home with Kiara that their lives were threatened if they stayed but ... the judge was also convinced.

Landscaper tells detectives Terri Moulton Horman offered him money to kill her husband
July 4, 2010


A judge grants a restraining order if the petitioner can show that the petitioner or child is in "imminent danger of further abuse" by the respondent, and the respondent represents a "credible threat to the physical safety of petitioner or petitioner's child."

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http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/landscaper_tells_police_terri.html
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« Reply #687 on: February 28, 2015, 03:37:53 PM »

FOOD FOR THOUGHT

Could it be that there is a "secret" or "sealed" indictment against Terri?

What Is a Secret Indictment?
http://brainz.org/what-secret-indictment/


The Kyron Horman Case: Turning of The Tide

DESIREE DAVIDSON YOUNG - JULY 11, 2014


"DA's Office will prosecute for all of the murder for hire plots (oh yeah, there are several) as well as Kyron's kidnapping and subsequent charges for that, when we find Kyron. They want to hit her with both barrels, so it sticks, and she can't get off easy. Terri is going down and so are the people who have helped her along the way. ...."

https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Kyron-Horman-Case-Turning-of-The-Tide/1428477140699516


A "secret" or "sealed" indictment?  Who would be afforded knowledge of its existence?

DEDE'S ATTORNEY

Chad Stavley - August 18, 2010


"I would be, frankly, surprised if Terri Horman did not eventually face charges in this case.  I'd be surprised if the indictment didn't come down."

http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2014/07/20/11754848/


TERRI'S ATTORNEY

Peter Bunch - August 24, 2010


"Wife filed a motion to abate the dissolution proceeding because she is a de facto suspect in the disappearance of Kyron Horman. ...."

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/terri-horman-court-memo.pdf


CIVIL JUDGE

Judge Kantor - August 18, 2012


"The Plaintiff is Kyron's mother.  The defendant is a prime suspect in the investigation."

http://media.kgw.com/documents/kyron+judge+doc+821.pdf


TERRI'S ATTORNEY

Peter Bunch - October 30, 2013


“There is no doubt she is in the cross hairs of the investigation.”

“There is no doubt, whatsoever Miss Horman is the focus of the investigation.”


http://www.katu.com/news/local/104507829.html


CHIEF DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY

Don Rees - October 8, 2013


"The fact that law enforcement has necessarily conveyed this information to Kaine Horman does not waive the longstanding and well-recognized privileged and confidential nature of information relating to a pending criminal investigation.  Kaine Horman should be prohibited from answering any questions about law enforcement methods used to investigate his son's disappearance, physical evidence gathered, witness statements or questions asked by law enforcement, or whether he has testified before a grand jury."

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/10/attorneys_for_kaine_horman_and.html

Don Rees - December 16, 2013

"Nothing said this morning changes where we were a month ago, two months ago. Nothing has changed. The state, to the extent possible, has sought to keep in its control the details of the criminal investigation surrounding the disappearance of this little boy, Kyron Horman.  That would include further information from Sanchez."

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/12/post_389.html
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« Reply #688 on: February 28, 2015, 04:25:53 PM »

It makes sense that in briefings with investigators Kaine, Desiree and Tony have been informed of "the knowledge" that Sheriff Staton references.  It makes sense that "the knowledge" encompasses Terri or ... Kyron's parents would not have remain focused on this woman in their quest for answers.  I cannot comprehend any parent not fully empathizing with the literal h--- on earth Kaine, Desiree and Tony have endured for almost five years.
   

SHERIFF DAN STATON

Sheriff to create new task force to refocus Kyron investigation
Sep 15, 2010


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When asked whether people would be shocked when this case comes to its conclusion Staton said, “I think that there will be things that come out of this investigation that will surprise you. That you’ll think about later on after it’s over. These are things I will tell you, when you ask me about the stresses that my staff is under and the other detectives and agency representatives are under, is that we have a knowledge of things that we don’t want to know about. ... "We have knowledge of things we wished we didn't."

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http://www.katu.com/news/local/103005759.html


Luke 8:17: "For all that is secret will eventually be brought into the open, and everything that is concealed will be brought to light and made known to all."
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« Reply #689 on: February 28, 2015, 04:43:17 PM »

Kaine Horman - July 30, 2013

"We still have extreme confidence that they're going to drive resolution to the case.  Law enforcement is again asking us to help protect the information as much as we can, so it doesn't interfere with the integrity of what they're doing. And we're doing our best in the civil arena to do that."

http://koin.com/2013/07/30/31700-autosave/


Kaine and Desiree have knowledge of sooo much more than they have revealed.  Almost five years since they last held their precious little boy implies that their resolve is being tested to the limits. It is my prayer that behind the scenes investigative dots are finally being connected and an indictment or indictments will soon be forthcoming.
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« Reply #690 on: February 28, 2015, 07:25:18 PM »

DEDE SPICHER

Is DeDe Spicher the smoking gun?  In exchange for immunity from prosecution did Dede finally reveal in July, 2013 her involvement in the happenings encompassing the disappearance of Kyron Horman?  Was a polygraph part of the immunity agreement?  Were truthful answers under oath before a Grand Jury part of the immunity agreement?  Was co-operation with investigators in securing a confession from her "friend" Terri Horman part of the immunity agreement?

JULY, 2010

Attorney: Spicher shared Terri Horman emails, texts with cops
July 26, 2010


DeDe Spicher, identified as a close friend of Terri Moulton-Horman, was called before a grand jury Monday in Multnomah County as part of the ongoing investigation into the disappearance of her step-son Kyron Horman.

Spicher's attorney told NBC Dateline that he would be "surprised" if Terri was not arrested in the case

Grand jury proceedings are not open to the public or the media. However, Spicer's attorney did confirm that his client was subpoenaed to testify but did not give any testimony under oath Monday. He said she could be called back to testify in the future.

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http://www.kgw.com/home/DeDe-Spicher-testifies-before-grand-jury-99252004-kyron-horman-missing-portland.html


OCTOBER, 2012

Terri Horman's friend DeDe Spicher declines to answer any questions about Terri Horman in deposition
October 23, 2012


Desiree Young's lawyer has filed a motion asking a judge to compel DeDe Spicher, a friend of Terri Moulton Horman's, to answer his questions after she declined to answer 142 questions during a deposition he took earlier this month stemming from Young's civil lawsuit against Horman.

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http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/10/terri_hormans_friend_dede_spic.html

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/DeDe-watermarked-1.pdf


JULY 2013

Kyron Horman's mom drops civil suit against stepmom
July 30, 2013


A key witness was now cooperating with investigators, according to Young's attorney.  He said that DeDe Spicher has testified before the grand jury for the criminal case.  Spicher was friends with Terri and her whereabouts were in question the day Kyron vanished.  She had previously declined to speak with investigators or testify.

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http://www.krem.com/news/217645481.html
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« Reply #691 on: February 28, 2015, 07:52:37 PM »

Kaine Horman - July 30, 2013

"We still have extreme confidence that they're going to drive resolution to the case.  Law enforcement is again asking us to help protect the information as much as we can, so it doesn't interfere with the integrity of what they're doing. And we're doing our best in the civil arena to do that."

http://koin.com/2013/07/30/31700-autosave/


The Dropping of the Civil Suit and The Dede's Grand Jury Testimony Connection?

When Kaine's above words are considered and ... when the timing of Desiree dropping the civil suit is considered ... could it be it was all about Dede revealing all to the July, 2013 Grand Jury?  Think about it.  Why did Kaine and Sheriff Staton offer their two bits worth when Desiree dropped the civil suit?


Mother of Kyron Horman dropping civil suit
Jul 30, 2013


Young said the decision to drop the civil case "does not mean I will give up looking for Kyron." She said Horman continues to be uncooperative and not give interviews to police.

"We all want to bring Kyron home and hold Terri accountable," she said. "I won't let my civil case get in the way."

Meanwhile, the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office issued a statement Tuesday afternoon that the Kyron Horman investigation remains active and a high priority for the office.

"Sheriff (Dan) Staton wants the citizens of Multnomah County to know this criminal investigation remains a high priority for the sheriff's office and that it will continue unimpeded. The integrity and security of the investigation remains foremost for this agency," the sheriff's office news release said.

Sooner after Young's press conference, we heard from Kyron's father, Kaine Horman. He said he's still hopeful his son will come home.

"I think we're all hoping for a breakthrough of some kind," he said. "We still have extreme confidence that they're going to drive resolution to this case."

Meanwhile, there was a huge breakthrough in the criminal investigation. Horman's good friend, Dede Spicher -- who previously refused to answer questions in court -- testified before an investigative grand jury in the past week or two.

"I hope she talks and shares everything she knows," Young said. "I'm optimistic."


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http://www.katu.com/news/local/Mother-of-Kyron-Horman-dropping-civil-suit-217632621.html
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« Reply #692 on: March 01, 2015, 12:11:20 PM »

THE 2013 DEPOSITIONS?

What was the outcome of 2013 depositions conducted by Terri's attorney?  If witnesses did emerged through those depositions ... witnesses who could confirm that Kyron was observed at Skyline WITHOUT Terri on the morning of June 4, 2010 ... it makes sense that Desiree and Kaine would have been informed and ... from that point in time their focus for the answers they so desperately seek regarding the disappearance of their son would have taken another direction.  It also makes sense that investigation spokespersons would have retracted previous statements ... statements that implied that Terri was the last known person to have been seen with Kyron.

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THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE

Kyron Horman disappearance: Skyline school parents and students will be interviewed Sunday
June 18, 2010


The sheriff's office news release says school staff did not see Kyron after 8:45 a.m. and that he did not make it to his classroom.

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http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/search_for_missing_portland_bo.html

CAPTAIN JASON GATES

Sheriff’s office tries to dispel rumors about boy's disappearance
Jun 18, 2010


There was one new piece of information: “Terri is the last-known person to have seen him before he disappeared,” Multnomah County Sheriff’s Capt. Jason Gates said, contrary to previous reports of someone else who might have seen the boy afterward.

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http://www.portlandtribune.com/news/story.php?story_id=127687387448812800


BLINK ON CRIME

Kyron Horman Exclusive Report: New Suspect And Botched Investigation Rumors Abound- Terri Horman Prepares To Fight For Couples Daughter Following Seclusion
6 August 2013


The following is a summation of multiple direct witness accounts, edited to protect witness identification only.

“…. He must have been standing behind me because I only recall hearing him ask if the boy could help him bring some stuff in from his truck.  I thought it was (edited) until he looked up at him and then he looked at Ms. Matthews for approval and she nodded her head yes in response.  They walked out of the South entrance together and I do not recall seeing either of them again." ....

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http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/08/06/kyron-horman-exclusive-report-new-suspect-and-botched-investigation-rumors-abound-terri-horman-prepares-to-fight-for-couples-daughter-following-seclusion/


STEPHEN HOUZE

Attorney: Terri Horman wasn't last person to see Kyron
Sep 13, 2013


"It's not true," Houze said of the claims Terri Horman was the last person to see Kyron that day. "We have witnesses who will say, in fact, they know facts first-hand that demonstrate that is not true."

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http://www.kptv.com/story/23425918/attorney-terri-horman-wasnt-last-person-to-see-kyron-horman-at-school


COURT RECORDS

Judge to rule by Monday on what discovery Terri Horman can obtain prior to divorce, child custody hearing
September 13, 2013


Court records indicate that Terri Horman's lawyers subpoenaed O'Donnell, as well as three Skyline School employees Kyron's second-grade teacher Kristine Porter, kindergarten/first grade teacher Easter Mathews and school secretary Susan Hall.

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/09/judge_to_rule_by_monday_on_wha.html


THE JUDGE

Judge rules Terri Horman's lawyers can't depose investigator or students, but can question Skyline School teachers, various business staff
September 16, 2013


Lawyers for Terri Moulton Horman can't question one of the lead sheriff's investigators in the disappearance of her stepson Kyron Horman, but can start deposing faculty at the missing boy's school and adults at area businesses, according to a judge's ruling Monday.

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http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/09/judge_rules_terri_hormans_lawy.html

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« Reply #693 on: March 01, 2015, 12:30:08 PM »

Magic Cleaners?   Why was it not revealed until September, 2013 that this establishment  was one of Terri's stops on the morning of June 4, 2010?

In September, 2013 ... after being served a subpoena by Stephen Houze ... the owner of Magic Cleaners (Sari Shanti) reveals to KGW that Terri had been in her establishment on the morning of June 4, 2010 ALONE!  No Kiara.  Where was Kiara?  In the truck?  Who was watching her?

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TIMELINE - TERRI HORMAN - IN HER OWN WORDS

Terri Horman e-mails: 'They are blaming me'
Aug 10, 2010


"I have a receipt showing I was checking out at Fred Meyer 7 miles away at 9:12am. I went to another FM looking for meds for Kitty they didn't have at the first FM. Then I was trying to get Kitty to sleep in the truck for a few minutes, but no go, so off to the gym at 11:20. Out at 12:20. Home at 12:45. Kaine home at 2. Bus at 3:30. That was my day - they keep asking me. Now on my 5th interview with them."

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http://www.komonews.com/news/local/100415079.html


MAGIC CLEANERS?

Police obtain stores' surveillance footage in missing boy case
July 9, 2010


Police investigating the disappearance of 7-year-old Kyron Horman have asked two area grocery stores to submit their surveillance footage.

Managers of the Fred Meyer store in Hillsboro and the Albertsons on Beaverton-Hillsdale Hwy. have confirmed they've submitted surveillance video and are cooperating with detectives.

<snipped>

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/98147474.html


SUBPOENAS

Judge to rule by Monday on what discovery Terri Horman can obtain prior to divorce, child custody hearing
September 13, 2013


Terri Moulton Horman's lawyers have issued about 10 subpoenas, demanding to question Tuesday one of the lead sheriff's investigators in the disappearance of her stepson Kyron, as well as faculty of Skyline School, the boy's former classmates and employees of various businesses, including Fred Meyer, 24-Hour Fitness and Magic Dry Cleaners.

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/09/judge_to_rule_by_monday_on_wha.html


DEPOSITIONS

Judge: Terri Horman's lawyers cannot question investigator
September 16, 2013


<snipped>

Judge Kantor Monday granted a motion filed by Kaine Horman's attorneys to stop Terri Horman's attorneys from questioning deputy O'Donnell.

However, Terri Horman's attorneys can conduct their own investigation. They will be allowed to interview witnesses, including teachers at Skyline Elementary and employees of Fred Meyer, Magic Cleaners and 24-hour Fitness. They will not be allowed to question Skyline students.

<snipped>

http://www.kgw.com/news/Judge-Terri-Hormans-lawyers-cannot-subpoena-lead-investgator-223927381.html

(In the video (1:25) at the above link it is reported that the owner of Magic Cleaners claimed Terri was ALONE when she came into the establishment)
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« Reply #694 on: March 01, 2015, 06:14:19 PM »

THE 2013 DEPOSITIONS?

What was the outcome of 2013 depositions conducted by Terri's attorney?  If witnesses did emerged through those depositions ... witnesses who could confirm that Kyron was observed at Skyline WITHOUT Terri on the morning of June 4, 2010 ... it makes sense that Desiree and Kaine would have been informed and ... from that point in time their focus for the answers they so desperately seek regarding the disappearance of their son would have taken another direction.  It also makes sense that investigation spokespersons would have retracted previous statements ... statements that implied that Terri was the last known person to have been seen with Kyron.

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THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE

Kyron Horman disappearance: Skyline school parents and students will be interviewed Sunday
June 18, 2010


The sheriff's office news release says school staff did not see Kyron after 8:45 a.m. and that he did not make it to his classroom.

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/search_for_missing_portland_bo.html

CAPTAIN JASON GATES

Sheriff’s office tries to dispel rumors about boy's disappearance
Jun 18, 2010


There was one new piece of information: “Terri is the last-known person to have seen him before he disappeared,” Multnomah County Sheriff’s Capt. Jason Gates said, contrary to previous reports of someone else who might have seen the boy afterward.

<snipped>

http://www.portlandtribune.com/news/story.php?story_id=127687387448812800


BLINK ON CRIME

Kyron Horman Exclusive Report: New Suspect And Botched Investigation Rumors Abound- Terri Horman Prepares To Fight For Couples Daughter Following Seclusion
6 August 2013


The following is a summation of multiple direct witness accounts, edited to protect witness identification only.

“…. He must have been standing behind me because I only recall hearing him ask if the boy could help him bring some stuff in from his truck.  I thought it was (edited) until he looked up at him and then he looked at Ms. Matthews for approval and she nodded her head yes in response.  They walked out of the South entrance together and I do not recall seeing either of them again." ....

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http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/08/06/kyron-horman-exclusive-report-new-suspect-and-botched-investigation-rumors-abound-terri-horman-prepares-to-fight-for-couples-daughter-following-seclusion/


STEPHEN HOUZE

Attorney: Terri Horman wasn't last person to see Kyron
Sep 13, 2013


"It's not true," Houze said of the claims Terri Horman was the last person to see Kyron that day. "We have witnesses who will say, in fact, they know facts first-hand that demonstrate that is not true."

<snipped>

http://www.kptv.com/story/23425918/attorney-terri-horman-wasnt-last-person-to-see-kyron-horman-at-school


COURT RECORDS

Judge to rule by Monday on what discovery Terri Horman can obtain prior to divorce, child custody hearing
September 13, 2013


Court records indicate that Terri Horman's lawyers subpoenaed O'Donnell, as well as three Skyline School employees Kyron's second-grade teacher Kristine Porter, kindergarten/first grade teacher Easter Mathews and school secretary Susan Hall.

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/09/judge_to_rule_by_monday_on_wha.html


THE JUDGE

Judge rules Terri Horman's lawyers can't depose investigator or students, but can question Skyline School teachers, various business staff
September 16, 2013


Lawyers for Terri Moulton Horman can't question one of the lead sheriff's investigators in the disappearance of her stepson Kyron Horman, but can start deposing faculty at the missing boy's school and adults at area businesses, according to a judge's ruling Monday.

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/09/judge_rules_terri_hormans_lawy.html



What's the hold-up?  Where's the proof?  Also ... it appears that Judge Garrison was aware in August, 2014 that "an ongoing case" existed ... "an ongoing case" that involved  Terri Horman.

Terri Horman loses bid to start over with new name
Aug 20, 2014


She said her Portland defense attorney, Stephen Houze, who was not present, has proof she was not the last person to see Kyron but declined to answer further questions about the case without her lawyer.

Garrison said while he didn’t agree with all of the objections, he felt changing Terri Horman’s name wouldn’t be in the public’s best interest because of the ongoing case and denied her request.

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http://www.nrtoday.com/news/12475228-113/horman-terri-kyron-hasn
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« Reply #695 on: March 01, 2015, 06:21:05 PM »

Kaine and Desiree have been silent for some time now ... silent regarding the investigations into the disappearance of their son and the MFH plot against Kaine.  I could be wrong but ... could it be the implication is that happenings are taking place behind the scenes ... happenings that imply an indictment or indictments will be forthcoming sooner than later?  That is my prayer.
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« Reply #696 on: March 01, 2015, 09:10:42 PM »

If Terri was confidence that there was no evidence linking her to any involvement/ knowledge regarding the the disappearance of Kyron and/or the MFH plot against Kaine ... why did she agree to the conditions and restrictions in the modification of the 2010 FAPA ... the 2010 FAPA that had prevented her from contact with her daughter for almost four years?  Why did Terri not legally challenged the foundation of the 2010 restraining order ... the foundation she disputes.

Kaine Horman awarded custody of daughter; Terri Horman to have strictly-supervised visits eventually
June 04, 2014


Kaine Horman has been awarded the custody of his daughter, Kiara, and ex-wife Terri Moulton Horman will have strictly supervised visits with the girl under a detailed "reintegration plan,'' according to a settlement signed Tuesday.

<snipped>

The settlement was reached a week before the two parents were set to argue for custody before a Multnomah County Circuit Court judge and a day before the fourth anniversary of  the disappearance of Kaine Horman's son, 7-year-old Kyron Horman. ....

Terri Horman hasn't seen her since shortly after her stepson vanished, barred by a restraining order filed by Kaine Horman and later by a civil order. Kaine Horman moved out of their home and filed for the restraining order after he said investigators alerted him that Terri Horman had solicited a landscaper to kill him months before Kyron's disappearance.

<snipped>

The settlement was signed by Multnomah County Circuit Court Judge Henry Kantor, Kaine Horman's lawyer Brett Engel and Terri Horman's lawyer Peter Bunch on Tuesday.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2014/06/kaine_horman_awarded_custody_o.html

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/Horman-custody.pdf

http://courts.oregon.gov/OJD/OSCA/cpsd/courtimprovement/familylaw/Pages/fapaforms.aspx


Kaine Horman - June 4, 2014

"I believe where we are today is still keeping my daughter safe, that status quo is still maintained, so I think we are doing what we need to be doing."

http://www.kgw.com/news/Kaine-Horman-awarded-full-custody-of-daughter--261867341.html
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« Reply #697 on: March 01, 2015, 10:30:08 PM »



BRETT E. ENGEL - LEGAL BRIEFING - FEBRUARY 10, 2014
Court Documents for 2-14-14

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" ... There is a trial scheduled for June 11, 2014 on the issue of what parenting schedule is in the best interests of Kiara Horman, age 5. Father will ask the court to deny parenting time between Kiara and her Mother because Mother presents a credible threat to the health and safety of Kiara. Father will offer testimony from Rodolfo Sanchez that (a) Mother solicited Sanchez's help to kill Father several months before the disappearance of Father's non joint child Kyron and (b) Mother sought to kill Father so she would not lose custody of joint child Kiara. ...."

Pages 8-9
" ...Mother would have this court believe that she has no options, and having Sanchez testify regarding the "meeting" is the only way she can show parenting time with Kiara is appropriate. Nothing could be further from the truth. There were apparently two people present at the "meeting". Mother and Mr. Sanchez. Sanchez is precluded from testifying about the meeting because the meeting is privileged. Mother is not prevented from testifying about the meeting and could so if she did not choose her right against self-incrimination over her right to explain what may have transpired at the meeting. Father's right should not be impacted because Mother is choosing her right to remain silent over her ability to present testimony that rebuts the Sanchez testimony. A litigant's decision to invoke the Fifth Amendment again self-incrimination is not without adverse consequences for the litigant. ...."

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.578520868904505.1073741831.161645780592018&type=1


In an attempt to fight the restraining order that had prevented Terri from any contact with Kiara for almost four years ... was Terri's attorney counting on Kaine's inability to provide back up to his claims re the alleged MFH plot against him ... back up that was  confidential to the on-going investigation?
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« Reply #698 on: March 02, 2015, 05:39:08 PM »

Could Dede's ex-boyfriend be the missing piece of the puzzle ... Dede's ex-boyfriend who in 2010 was involved in the landscaping industry .... who was a child advocate volunteer with the Citizen Review Board of Multnomah County ... was involved in children's ministries and ... had family connections to an orphanage in Mexico.

Friends of Pimpollo "Making a Difference"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQ2mCM1XcUc

In the process of elimination ... was Dede's ex-boyfriend investigated ... was the orphanage searched?  The implication is that maybe ... just maybe ... Kaine and Desiree will be united with their son whom them have not held in their arms for almost five long years.
 

DEDE'S FORMER BOYFRIEND

DeDe Spicher's former boyfriend describes Terri Moulton Horman's friend as a 'high-energy, dynamic' person who changed dramatically
August 19, 2010


..... volunteered as a child's advocate in Multnomah County for more than a decade, said he dated Spicher for about 10 months, and they had even talked of marriage, but their relationship fell apart in early August 2009.

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http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/dede_spichers_former_boyfriend.html

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/jasonw.pdf


SECRETED KYRON?

Kaine Horman calls his estranged wife 'severely emotionally disturbed,' releases more texts between Terri Horman and Michael Cook
October 25, 2010


"I believe that Respondent has harmed or secreted Kyron,'' Kaine Horman wrote in an affidavit filed today."

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/10/kaine_horman_calls_his_estrang.html

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/petition.PDF


ICE!!

Sheriff's office: Progress continues in search for missing Kyron Horman
July 23, 201
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Here is the text of the Q&A with Sheriff Staton:

<snipped>

Q: Can we have the list of law enforcement agencies that have assisted in the Kyron Horman investigation?

Gresham Police, Fairview Police, Troutdale Police, Portland Police, Port of Portland Police, Clackamas County Sheriff's Office, Clackamas County DA MCT, Multnomah County DA's investigators, Washington County District Attorney's Office, Washington County Sheriff's Office, Gladstone Police, Oregon City Police, Milwaukie Police, Canby Police, Lake Oswego Police, West Linn Police, Vancouver Police, Hillsboro Police, Beaverton Police, FBI, DEA, ICE, Secret Service, DOD Defense Criminal Investigative Services, Oregon DOJ, Oregon State Police.

This list does not include search and rescue resources.

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/mcso_progress_continues_in_sea.htm
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« Reply #699 on: March 02, 2015, 08:31:58 PM »

“It’s an extraordinary complicated investigation on a number of levels. That’s the bottom line.  If it was an easy case, we would have solved it months ago.”  Captain Jason Gates - February 24, 2011

http://www.katu.com/news/local/116871428.html?tab=video&c=y


A Theory in a Timeline

Friday, June 4, 2010


07:50 AM (Horman Residence, 15725 NW Sheltered Nook Rd, Portland, OR 97231)  Terri leaves home with Kyron and Kiara in Kaine's pick up truck.  Terri claims the pick up truck is required that day to bring Kyron's science project home from school.  Terri picks up DeDe at a location close to Skyline Elementary. DeDe's vehicle is parked out of sight.

Driving Time - 10 minutes

08:00AM - 08:20AM - (Skyline Elementary, 11536 NW Skyline Blvd, Portland, OR 97231)  Terri, Kiara, Kyron and DeDe arrive at Skyline Elementary.  Terri parks in front of the school.  DeDe and Kiara remain in the vehicle.  Terri and Kyron head directly to the classroom where photos of Kyron and Kurtis are taken with their respective science projects.  Meanwhile ... DeDe moves Terri's pick up truck from the front of the school to a back exit.  Upon exiting his classroom Kyron's jacket and backpack are intentionally left behind on his desk.  Kyron is immediately whisked out of the school by Terri through a back exit to the waiting pick up truck.  Terri drives DeDe a short distance to retrieve her vehicle.
 
Driving Time: 10 minutes

08:35 AM - (40 Acre Property, 13000 Northwest Old Germantown Road, Portland, OR)  Terri follows DeDe to her place of employment. DeDe parks her vehicle in a visible location leaving behind cell phone and makes her presence known.  DeDe leaves property unnoticed in Terri's pick up truck along with Kiara and Kyron.

Driving Time: 20 minutes

09:00 AM - (Fred Myers, 11425 SW Beaverton-Hillsdale Hwy  Beaverton, OR 97005)  Terri claims in an email to possess a 9:12 AM timed receipt.  DeDe, Kiara (?) and Kyron remain in the pick-up truck.

Driving Time: 10 minutes

09:30 AM - (Fred Meyers, 15995 SW Walker Rd, Beaverton, OR 97006)  While holding Kiara ... Terri has an encounter with Andrea Leckey allegedly between 9:30 AM and 10:00 AM.  Kyron and DeDe remain in parked pick up truck.

Driving Time: 2 minutes

10:00 AM - (Magic Cleaners, 16035 SW Walker Rd  Beaverton, OR 97006)  Business owner reveals in a media interview that Terri was in the establishment alone.  No Kiara.  DeDe, Kiara and Kyron remain in parked pick up truck.

Driving Time: 40 minutes

10:45 AM - (Sauvie Island Bridge) Records reveal pings from Terri's cell phone ... pings that originate on Sauvie Island ... pings that motivated extensive searches.  Kyron is handed over to a third party participant with a possible safe haven connection or ....

Driving time: 40 minutes

11:40 AM - (24 Hour Fitness, 1265 NW Waterhouse Avenue Beaverton, OR 97006)  Terri arrives at gym.  Kiara is left in gym's childcare. (?)  DeDe remains in the vehicle.

Driving Time: 20 minutes

01:00 PM - (40 Acre Property, 13000 Northwest Old Germantown Road, Portland, OR) Terri drives DeDe back to 40 acre property where DeDe makes her presence known.  When questioned regarding her absence ... DeDe insists she had been on the property all morning.

Driving Time: 15 minutes

01:15 PM - (Horman Residence - 15725 NW Sheltered Nook Rd, Portland, OR 97231) Terri returns home with Kiara.  Terri emails photo of Kyron to contacts ... photo taken earlier in the classroom.

02:00 AM - Terri does not attend the talent show at Skyline ... the talent show that Kyron is a scheduled participant.  Terri does not bring home Kyron's science project?


APPROXIMATE TIME FRAME: 5 1/2 HOURS

APPROXIMATE ACCUMULATED DRIVING TIME - 2 1/2 HOURS



Backup documents/videos/articles/interviews that support my "theory" are available upon request.
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