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Author Topic: Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland, OR #45 1/1/14 - 8/8/2015  (Read 429715 times)
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« Reply #40 on: January 05, 2014, 10:22:21 PM »

Tamikosmom, Thank you for all of the re-hashing of old information and bringing in the new. I do feel what is most important at the moment is the new. There are pending criminal charges against Kaine. This means that regardless of old statements by LE, something drastic has changed and we will all have to wait to see exactly what that is. I am a betting woman and am betting that a new expert found evidence that disputes a prior false assumption. I have no idea what these charges will be, but it appears imminent and likely to dispute what was previously reported. If it has been found that evidence presented was fabricated that has to do with custody of Kiara being removed from Terri, then the prior restraining order will be invalidated and no real fight over custody will be needed for Terri.
Here is what is odd; Announcing pending criminal charges against the Petitioner in a written statement in a divorce decree. That is beyond odd. We can safely assume that the Petitioner and Attorney allowed this only based on a high likelihood of those charges having overwhelming evidence and thus moving forward.  Why haven't the charges been brought yet? I can surmise that 1. More evidence is needed 2. LE, going on a flawed belief brought damages to the wrong person in a case and are trying to right a wrong by at least allowing the divorce to settle so the Respondent can have some closure. If the Petitioner is sentenced to prison, the child support payments will be ceased. There is little likelihood that Kaine would allow this language in the divorce agreement unless he absolutely had to. Maybe it is just a HUGE oversight. Everything in this case is strange, so nothing would surprise me.

Thanks for the well thought out post.

Peace ... I also anticipate that something is about to break but I suspect that it has nothing to do with with any pending criminal charges against Kaine.  Could it be that 3 1/2 year worth of dots have been connected and indictments in the Kyron Horman case are imminent?   

Could it be the pending criminal charges against Kaine has nothing to do with the Kyron Horman case or the MFH case?  Could it be that these pending criminal charges have everything to do with the distribution of steroids?

Janet

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Blink On Crime Kyron Horman Investigation Exclusive: DeDe Spicher Interview Yields Allegations Of Illegal Steroid Use Terri Horman Took To Police
Wednesday 11 September 2013 4:25 pm


<snipped>

Stoy:  Understood, you are referring to the time you stayed at the Horman home late June 2010 through early July 2010 following Kaine’s  service of the restraining order and her exclusive use of the home?  Spicher:  I am not sure about the exclusive use part,  I didn’t really know anything about how that sort of thing worked and I think for some reason I want to say Terri was not allowed to show anyone.

Stoy: Ok.  Tell me everything you know about that. But, I would like you to see if you can provide me your recollection from what you were told about steroid use PRIOR to your conversations about it that refreshed your memory.  By the way, who else knows about this, if you know.

Spicher: Terri’s attorney Stephen Houze.

Stoy:  How would you know that?

Spicher: Because I helped her load them up, what appeared to me to be syringes in a box and deliver it to her attorney’s office, she said, at his request.   She also located some cancelled checks for what she said was Kaine’s payment for steroids.  I don’t remember who they were made out to but it was not to cash.

<snipped>

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http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/09/11/blink-on-crime-kyron-horman-investigation-exclusive-dede-spicher-interview-yields-allegations-of-illegal-steroid-use-terri-horman-took-to-police/


Landscaper says Terri Horman wanted him to get rid of her husband: court records
December 09, 2013 at 9:20 AM
updated December 09, 2013 at 6:55 PM


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Terri Horman told Sanchez of Kaine's schedule, and said he always carried $10,000 in cash "and that the murder could be made to look like a mugging," according to Kaine Horman's lawyer. Sanchez refused to take part.

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http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/12/landscaper_says_terri_horman_w.html
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« Reply #41 on: January 05, 2014, 10:49:33 PM »

Depositions of Rudy Sanchez

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/kainehorman.pdf

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/hormancourtdocs12162013.pdf

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« Reply #42 on: January 05, 2014, 11:16:15 PM »

The Divorce Document

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/horman.pdf
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« Reply #43 on: January 06, 2014, 12:03:02 AM »

The statement about Kaine carrying that much cash and making a mugging sound logical for that reason makes no sense. The mugger doesn't inform police of how much cash they took and if the victim is dead, he surely can't, so who would think that any random victim actually carries that amount of cash? Can you imagine a spouse saying " Oh, yes, my husband usually carries $10,000 in cash, so the random mugging went wrong dude just happened to hit the jackpot with my hubby." ? The logic seems to be from that of an imbecile.
If Kaine really carried $10,00 in cash, he would be a high level drug dealer.That in and of itself would take any LE down the road of dangerous liaisons. They would, in that case, expect that acquaintances in trafficking would be most likely suspects. IF it is drugs and IF he did carry that much cash on himself at all times..... that is a gun so smoking that it's red hot.
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« Reply #44 on: January 06, 2014, 02:24:03 PM »


"I am 150 percent confident that Terri Horman should be charged in the case."  Maybe we haven't found Kyron yet but we have a lot of circumstantial evidence tying Terri to Kyron's disappearance."   Desiree Young - September 18, 2013

http://ijpr.org/post/kyron-horman-search-his-mother-continues

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1.  THE LAST KNOWN PERSON

Sheriff’s office tries to dispel rumors about boy's disappearance
Jun 18, 2010
Updated Jun 21, 2010


<snipped>

There was one new piece of information: “Terri is the last-known person to have seen him before he disappeared,” Multnomah County Sheriff’s Capt. Jason Gates said, contrary to previous reports of someone else who might have seen the boy afterward.

<snipped>

http://www.portlandtribune.com/news/story.php?story_id=127687387448812800


Kyron Horman disappearance: Skyline school parents and students will be interviewed Sunday
June 18, 2010 at 4:59 PM


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Witnesses said Kyron arrived at the school with his stepmother, Terri Moulton Horman, on Friday morning, perhaps about 8 a.m.

The stepmother said she last saw Kyron at about 8:45 a.m. walking down the hallway toward his classroom, according to a sheriff's office news release. ....

However, the sheriff's office news release says school staff did not see Kyron after 8:45 a.m. and that he did not make it to his classroom.

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/search_for_missing_portland_bo.html


2.  FAILED POLYGRAPHS

Family: Terri Horman failed polygraphs; 'she's lying'
Published: Jul 8, 2010 at 5:19 PM PST
Last Updated: Oct 30, 2013 at 6:14 AM PST


<snipped>

“I think everyone knows she took two polygraphs,” Kaine said. “She has not passed those polygraphs.”

<snipped>

http://www.katu.com/news/local/98077834.html


Kaine Horman describes how Terri Moulton Horman 'vented' after flunking her polygraph
July 16, 2010 at 9:48 PM
updated July 23, 2010 at 10:13 AM


<snipped>

Q: Can you describe how Terri Horman handled the polygraph requests? I believe you have said to others that Terri walked out of a second polygraph, and then waited about 10 days before taking a third? Can you clarify this for us?

A: She fully cooperated and took the first polygraph then subsequently vented her failed results to all family, friends, and law enforcement at the house. A few days later she cooperated and went to take a second polygraph test but got up and walked out before the machine portion of the test could be administered... again by her own statement to family, friends, and law enforcement at the house ...She continually pushed back and refused to repeat the second test for several days (approx. 8-10) before going to take the test and then once again coming back to the house and venting to all listeners.

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/kaine_horman_describes_how_ter.html


3.  CELL PHONE DISCREPANCIES

Little Boy Lost
Dateline NBC
7/26/2010 6:51:10 PM ET


TRANSCRIPT

<snipped>

Tony and Desiree say the biggest question marks revolved around Terri's whereabouts that morning that Kyron went missing.

DESIREE YOUNG: She couldn't explain to them for about two hours worth of time where she was or what she was doing.

And there was something else that gave Desiree and Tony a sinking feeling that something wasn't right. They say Terri's cell phone records apparently didn't match up with where she said she was on the morning of Kyron's disappearance.

TONY YOUNG: That to me is strike two. That's huge… There's starting to be some structural problems with what she's saying at that point. And then it continues to stack up.

<snipped>

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/38420266/ns/dateline_nbc-crime_reports/t/little-boy-lost/#.UlyvjlCkpzM


Sources: Someone else may know what happened to Kyron
Posted on July 11, 2010 at 11:13 AM


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Sources also told KGW Saturday that  investigators have been creating a detailed timeline of what Terri did the day her stepson disappeared.
 
While Terri Horman has said she was in certain locations, investigators have placed her elsewhere using bank card records and cell phone pings, according to sources.

<snipped>

http://www.king5.com/news/local/Sources-Someone-else-may-know-what-happened-to-Kyron-98201989.html


4.  HATE EMAILS

Kyron Horman's Mother Speaks Out
11/15/2010


Transcript Excerpt

<snipped>

On Friday LE showed Desiree emails Terri had sent to friends describing her marriage to Kaine and her feelings about Kyron)

Desiree: It's very clear from Terri's horrible words that she had a severe hatred for Kyron, and that a lot... she blamed a lot of the marital problems between Kaine and herself on Kyron, that it was a huge point of contention in their marriage, and she had expressed in great detail her hatred for Kyron.

I now believe without a shadow of a doubt that not only is she capable of hurting Kyron, that it's clear that she could have hurt him in the worst possible way

<snipped>

http://www.today.com/id/26184891/vp/40192247#40192247


Missing Kyron's Dad Points Finger at Stepmom
Kaine Horman suspects his estranged wife knows what happened to his son.
04:13 | 11/19/2010


Transcript Excerpt

<snipped>

Reporter: Have you seen the emails that are being talked about where Terri allegedly talks about hurting Kyron?

Kaine: Yeah, well, I, I've seen them. Yes.

Reporter: What is in those emails?

Kaine: I'm not gonna talk about it. It's information that's supposed to be confidential to the investigation, and...

Reporter: Did they only solidify your belief that Terri's responsible?

Kaine: Everything that we see moving forward just adds to the pile.

<snipped>

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/missing-kyrons-dad-points-finger-stepmom-12189940?tab=9482930&section=1206852&playlist=11128091&page=1


5.  PROBABLE CAUSE

Father of Missing Oregon Boy Suspects Stepmom
Published July 09, 2010


<snipped>

The order contained the first publicly released suspicion by Kaine Horman that his wife was connected to Kyron Horman's disappearance.

"I believe respondent is involved in the disappearance of my son Kyron who has been missing since June 4, 2010," Kaine Horman's petition reads. "I also recently learned that respondent attempted to hire someone to murder me. The police have provided me with probable cause to believe the above two statements to be true."

His statement contained no details on how Terri Horman might be involved in the boy's disappearance.

<snipped>

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/07/09/father-missing-oregon-boy-suspects-stepmom/



6. SEXTING

Kaine Horman calls his estranged wife 'severely emotionally disturbed,' releases more texts between Terri Horman and Michael Cook
October 25, 2010 at 5:00 PM
updated October 26, 2010 at 6:02 PM


<snipped>

"I believe that Respondent has harmed or secreted Kyron,'' Kaine Horman wrote in an affidavit filed today.''

He included as exhibits back-and-forth text messages between Terri Horman and his high school friend, Michael Cook, in which his estranged wife wonders if she's "going to get any ever again....," and sent photos of her breast and of her masturbating.

"It is deeply concerning that while Kyron was missing and the media was trying to assist us, Respondent was engaged in such behavior,'' Kaine Horman wrote in his affidavit.

Kaine Horman said the text messages continued after she was forced out of their home on Northwest Sheltered Nook Road.

<snipped>

In text messages from June 30 through July 6 to Cook, Terri Horman referred to her criminal defense lawyer Stephen Houze as "Steve aka lawyer extrordainairre'' (sic). On July 3, she texted about the use of a "clean phone" to avoid monitoring by law enforcement, and on July 6, went to Cook's house, later telling him to lie for her or she would "get in trouble,'' Kaine Horman says in the affidavit.

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/10/kaine_horman_calls_his_estrang.html

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/petition.PDF

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/redacted-text-messages.PDF


Kyron's father wants step-mom Terri to leave home sooner
Posted on July 14, 2010 at 10:48 AM
Updated Thursday, Jul 15 at 6:09 PM


<snipped>

The filing alleges that Terri took the restraining order to Cook's home, where she showed him the document and allowed him to take cell phone photos of the document, which included Kaine's new address. He shared information from the restraining order with at least two other unidentified people, according to the court document.

The filing also stated that a police search of Cook's phone found that Cook had done a Google search to map Kaine's new address but that he told police he did not go to the residence.

<snipped>

The motion also states police told Kaine that Terri exchanged hundred of text messages with Cook and several photographs of Terri Horman "in various stages of undress and graphic sexual activity." According to the filing, the "sexual nature" of the relationship between Cook and Terri Horman began on or about June 30, four days after Kaine Horman moved out of the family's Northwest Portland home.

Cook was a high school classmate of Kaine Horman, and also helped organize the first vigil for missing 7-year-old Kyron Horman.
 
Similarities to Murder-for-Hire plot

Monday's court filing also stated that police had told Kaine that Terri's "sexual overtures to Mr. Cook resemble those made to the man Respondent (Terri Horman) attempted to hire to murder Petitioner (Kaine)."

In the original restraining order filing, Kaine stated that police had told him Terri had tried to hire a landscaper to kill Kaine

<snipped>

http://www.kgw.com/news/Court-doc-Kaine-Terri-Horman-kyron-horman-contempt-sexting-98270654.html

http://images.bimedia.net/documents/horman-affair.pdf
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« Reply #45 on: January 06, 2014, 02:48:55 PM »

I read the redacted transcript of the sexting between Terri Horman and Michael Cook's high school friend and ... something akin to Desiree Young I was was also disgusted ... disgusted beyond words.  Think about it.  The day the sexting originated Kyron had been missing for only three weeks ... Kaine had taken Kiara from the home four days earlier and ... Terri had been served with a restraining order within the past two days.

Janet

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Little Boy Lost
NBC News
updated 7/26/2010 6:51:10 PM ET


TRANSCRIPT

<snipped>

KATE SNOW: When you heard there were these new court documents and they say that she developed this relationship with this man, that they were sexting, texting each other—you roll your eyes.

DESIREE YOUNG: Yeah, I'm sorry. I guess, to say it tactfully, it goes to someone's character if you're doing something like that. I mean, it's disgusting.

<snipped>

http://www.today.com/id/38420266/ns/today-today_news/t/little-boy-lost/#.UmHl6lCkpzM


The Redacted Texts

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/redacted-text-messages.PDF

http://images.bimedia.net/documents/horman-affair.pdf
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« Reply #46 on: January 06, 2014, 07:59:34 PM »

It appears that Terri's attorneys were aware from very early on that their client was the focus in the Kyron Horman investigation and for a huge retainer they developed a no cooperation strategy that has kept Desiree and Kaine in a literal h--- of not-knowing for 3 1/2 years.

Janet

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Source: Cops learned of Terri's $350K through texts
Posted on July 26, 2010 at 9:00 AM


<snipped>

KGW obtained a copy of the affidavit Monday which showed that Terri had paid her attorney, Stephen Houze, $350,000. ...

A reliable source told KGW that investigators learned of the $350,000 through a text message that Terri had sent to Mike Cook

<snipped>

http://www.kgw.com/news/Kaine-Horman-seeks-to-make-Terri-pay-legal-fees-99243664.html

http://media.kgw.com/documents/0375_001.pdf

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/redacted-text-messages.PDF


Terri Moulton Horman, focus in stepson Kyron Horman's disappearance, shows for divorce hearing
August 25, 2010 at 2:40 PM
updated September 14, 2010 at 10:43 PM


<snipped>

In a legal memo filed today, Bunch argues that Terri Horman can't proceed at this time to protect her rights to property, custody and parenting time because she is a "de facto suspect" in the disappearance of Kyron and at the center of a police investigation.

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/terri_moulton_horman_appears_i.html


Horman Divorce Case Delayed Until 2011
10-07-2010


<snipped>

Attorney Peter Bunch said Terri Horman is no doubt the focus of the criminal investigation into Kyron’s disappearance. He said any testimony or questions about finances that will come up during the divorce proceedings might be used against her by investigators.

"There is no doubt that she's in the crosshairs of the state's investigation," Bunch said.

<snipped>

http://www.kptv.com/story/14803256/horman-divorce-case-delayed-until-2011-10-07-2010?clienttype=printable

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« Reply #47 on: January 07, 2014, 01:59:40 PM »

Kyron's Parents Describe Web of Deception from Stepmom (With Audio)
July 10th, 2010


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Young and Horman say the full extent of Terri Horman's deceptions wasn't clear until after Kyron disappeared, when they and investigators began piecing the picture together in conversations with friends and acquaintances.

But Kaine Horman says he didn't fully believe his wife could be behind Kyron's disappearance until he learned about the alleged murder-for-hire plot. The Oregonian has reported Terri Horman offered to pay a landscaper to kill her husband six or seven months ago.

"I have no idea what she's capable of, because she's obviously done some horrible things or tried to do some horrible things that took us all by surprise," Kaine Horman said.

Young says Terri Horman was a frequent liar about matters large and small.

"She can't even tell the truth about her divorce or, you know, how she met Kaine, any of that," Young says. "Silly little things. Stories about Kyron getting stung by a bee she can't even tell the truth about."

She says she suspects Terri Horman was untruthful in the first phone call to Young the day Kyron disappeared.

"Sometimes a mother's instinct can be pretty accurate, but at the same time, (my suspicion) was factual-based," she says. "I can't give you details, but some of what she was saying didn't match up with me. I'm familiar with the school, and I know how the school's set up, and some of what she's saying doesn't make sense to me."


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http://www.wweek.com/portland/blog-976-kyrons_parents_describe_web_of_deception_from_step.html
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« Reply #48 on: January 07, 2014, 02:17:13 PM »

IN THE BEGINNING

Blink - June 23, 2010

46. .... "Let me say this- I am a fan of this MCSO. From Dan Staton to Jason Gates and his team, they have done everything right in my eyes.  I have studied his election campaign, and his career, and this guy is a cops cop and a people’s sheriff. This community is lucky to have him.  That said, I also understand people’s frustration that their information is validated.  I am asking that folks put this Investigative team in a position of faith and trust, above your need to know. This is about Kyron, not us." B

Read more:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/06/23/new-clues-in-kyron-horman-search-fact-or-fiction-you-decide/comment-page-3/#comments


Blink - July 20, 2010

11.  I am told by sources that Terri was involved in an intimate relationship with Rudy Sanchez at some point. The extent of which, to my knowledge has not been verified. B

Read more:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/14/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-landscaper-rudy-sanchez-knew-kyron/


Blink - July 23, 2010

21.  ".... I do believe there is substantial good faith basis for the family to say what they did or LE would ask them not to.  Actually, LE is using the media in the best possible way in this case, imo. "  B

Read more:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/16/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-terri-horman-leaves-the-house/comment-page-18/#comments


Blink - July 23, 2010

17.  Sondra says:
July 23, 2010 at 1:51 am

Could DeDe be the red head in truck ….

"This is exactly who I believe was in that truck. She is FOS also, her vehicle was processed as well." B  

Read more:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/16/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-terri-horman-leaves-the-house/comment-page-16/


Blink - Blog - July 25, 2010

" ... Of particular interest, is source confirmation that the landscaper Terri Horman hired last fall, who worked on the Horman property, had met Kyron at the residence as well as the Skyline School, where his firm had been contracted to do some work. ..."

Read more:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/14/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-landscaper-rudy-sanchez-knew-kyron/


Blink-on-Crime Blog - July 26, 2010

.... "According to several sources, DeDe Spicher, Terri’s roommate  post Kaine’s restraining order,  was working in a garden near the Horman home the day of Kyron’s disappearance when she received a call at approximately 11:15 am. She left abruptly, returning at approximately 1:00 pm. DeDe was unreachable on her cell phone during that time and the property owner became concerned. Spicher is a long time friend and workout companion of Horman’s." ....

blinkoncrime editor Madeline Tanner contributed to this report

Read more:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/26/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-grand-jury-meets-indictment-imminent/


Blink - July 26, 2010

26.  "Houze has one objective, to zealously represent/defend his Client, who, has not been charged in this case.  Someone is going to have to tell me how one arrives at a $350K retainer for an innocent person." B

Read more:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/16/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-terri-horman-leaves-the-house/comment-page-24/#comments


Blink - June 27, 2010

45.  "I never said she was not responsible, I said I do not believe she herself harmed Kyron, and I still do not.  Outside of that, I have no standing to say who is right or who is wrong.  My conviction in that position is in my articles and comments throughout my coverage of Kyron’s case.  I can and may be wrong, and have no problem admitting it whatsoever, but he was there, he was dropped off. He did not vanish."  B

Read more:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/06/23/new-clues-in-kyron-horman-search-fact-or-fiction-you-decide/comment-page-11/


Blink - June 29, 2010

46.  "I believe that accounts for why they were searching the stretch of channel they were initially.  I do not believe Terri knows where Kyron is. I am confident if she did/does, when deception was detected on that poly question, she would have been arrested, even if to progress the investigation."  B

Read more:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/06/23/new-clues-in-kyron-horman-search-fact-or-fiction-you-decide/comment-page-15/


Blink - June 29, 2010

47.  "I believe Kaine is aware of the who/why but not the where. My thoughts and prayers are with him, Kyron, and the entire family today. I would sincerely appreciate it if whomever knows where Kyron is come clean privately. ... It's time."  B

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http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/06/23/new-clues-in-kyron-horman-search-fact-or-fiction-you-decide/comment-page-15/


Blink - June 29, 2010

3.  "I will say this, I am shocked how ill advised this woman is. If she does not give a very high profile interview through or with her attorney today, I would say there is a strong possibility she will be arrested for something. I maintain I do not believe she directly harmed Kyron Horman. I am aware at this point I am in the minority." B

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http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/06/29/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-kaine-horman-files-for-restraining-order-and-divorce-from-terri-horman/comment-page-1/


Blink - June 29, 2010

6.  "I believe that Kaine has learned information that in order to protect Kiara and his rights he was advised to do exactly as he did."  B

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Blink - June 30, 2010

42.  "If this woman does not have counsel, or secured counsel “in the process” I will lose all my faith in the land of opportunistic defense attorneys looking for the biggest case of their careers. ...."

"I will speculate that she has a level of culpability and has been advised by counsel to zip it, as they are looking to mount a mental defense. ...." B

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http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/06/29/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-kaine-horman-files-for-restraining-order-and-divorce-from-terri-horman/comment-page-5/


Blink - August 1, 2010

27.  "I do not care if Kaine Horman has a harem stashed in his cubicle.  Adults are responsible for their own behavior. I am sick to death of the buck passing for other’s actions that result in pain or trauma to others.  I have seen both Kaine and Desiree on National TV openly professing blame and guilt TOWARD THEMSELVES. That is what people that had nothing to do with their child’s disappearance, but understand their own accountabilities to protect Kyron, and where they failed, do.  These people are beyond terrified with good reason. My heart aches for them, and little Mr. Man, whose smile makes me want to throw rocks at something it is so unfair. He is an innocent child, aren’t they all?  As bio parents, ultimately whatever happens to our babies good or bad, is our fault.

“..Sometimes there aren’t enough rocks..”
- Forrest Gump

Terri Horman knows exactly what she can do to help this nightmare, and she is protecting her own ass. ...."  B

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http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/26/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-grand-jury-meets-indictment-imminent/comment-page-15/#comments


Blink - August 2, 2010

15.  "I know that she was not questioned, but I am of the opinion that has to do with a last minute deal she made to work with LE. If that was not fruitful, expect to see her there this week."  B

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http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/26/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-grand-jury-meets-indictment-imminent/comment-page-18/#comments


Blink - August 4, 2010

2.  "Technically she has a form of immunity for whatever she testified to. That would have been crafted by the state accordingly, and is my belief is the reason she was not asked any questions last week."  B"  

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http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/26/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-grand-jury-meets-indictment-imminent/comment-page-21/#comments


Blink - August 4, 2010

35.  "I am unaware of any confirmed report anyone saw Kyron leave through any door."
B

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http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/26/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-grand-jury-meets-indictment-imminent/comment-page-20/#comments


Blink - August 4, 2010

41.  "Le told Kaine about the MFH plot, and advised him to remove himself and Kiara because they are duty bound to. The sting, with an intended victim and a baby in the home could never have happened. Do I think it was a mistake to try? No way. It tells the goal was to put pressure on the parties for the sake of finding Kyron and I support that. It seems our poor LE feels the weight of that double edged sword no matter what they do.  While I would do everything Kaine has done/is doing, I continue to be floored that Houze remains silent.  From a legal perspective, it is my opinion he believes his client will be arrested, and that her leverage begins only then."  B

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http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/26/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-grand-jury-meets-indictment-imminent/comment-page-20/#comments


Blink - August 6, 2010

6.  "When I say “cold” I mean in terms of recovering Kyron.  I think an indictment in this case will progress it appropriately."  B

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http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/26/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-grand-jury-meets-indictment-imminent/comment-page-26/#comments


Blink - August 6, 2010

10.  ".... Everyone- the point is, she may be 100% to blame, but if you think she acted alone, I can promise you that is not possible, and that complicates this case."  B

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http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/26/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-grand-jury-meets-indictment-imminent/comment-page-26/#comments


Blink - August 7, 2010

44.  "Is everyone aware that the LE agencies involved in this case, have the capability to listen to both sides of the conversation on those bat phones within 100 yards of TH, which is probably how they learned about them in the first place? The deputy inside the home, and undoubtedly trailing TH in the following weeks was also wired. Point is, this little brain trust of hers, who now find themselves in the middle of a criminal investigation, are not masterminds."

"What kind of conversations do you need to have outside of LE monitoring when their is a 7 year old missing would be my question."  B

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http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/26/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-grand-jury-meets-indictment-imminent/comment-page-27/#comments


Blink - August 7, 2010

45.  "Again not twinkle, and I know she will weigh in when she gets a chance, but I believe that twinkle’s goal was to establish the point that how can ANYONE be 100% convinced of TH guilt and complicity, with the known facts of this case.

There is a reason this went to a GJ and no arrest was made prior. The burdens on the state in a kidnapping/child endangerment/murder (unknown) case without recovering a victim, or physical evidence indicating bodily harm is very, very stringent.

I believe this was the pending decision Dan Staton was referring to weeks ago, whether to go this route.

Everyone believes TH is involved somehow, I agree to that, it is to what extent that has my brow up.

This does not make sense to me. They had enough probable cause to get a warrant to have the “sting” regarding solicitation, yet no charges are filed. They use that intel to contribute to RO’s and an emergency exparte order, which I can tell you in my jurisdiction would never have been granted without a sworn affidavit from LE, which would then have allowed it to remain sealed in an ongoing investigation.

You have Laura Rackner filing a motion seeking disclosure of $350K alleged retainer, with no evidence of same except to say “disclosed to a 3rd party”. Again, in my jurisdiction, motions are required to stand on their own merit because in most cases a tentative ruling is offered the day before the hearing is set, to expedite family court matters, which gives counsel an oppty to not have oral arguments, or be somewhat prepared to see how the court is leaning. You have a contempt motion that specifically references sexually graphic images that are similar to those (sic) that went to the landscaper.

My gut tells me there is one reason this woman has not been arrested yet, other than those I have already stated-

In her polly, regarding the question, did you arrange to have Kyron kidnapped, and do you know where he is- those answers were not deceptive. That is not a pass by any means, but it does go to intent or lack thereof.

For me, there is no question she let the vampire in the house, but then what?

Kyron did not leave with TH.

The key to this case as I have stated before, is Rudy Sanchez and his associates.

Remember.. “she led him on.. he was expecting something..”

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http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/26/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-grand-jury-meets-indictment-imminent/comment-page-27/#comments


Blink - August 17, 2010

6.  "Make no mistake. Rudy Sanchez is involved. I say that without reservation."
B

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http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/26/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-grand-jury-meets-indictment-imminent/comment-page-51/#comments


Blink - August 19, 2010

5.  ".... I do not usually say this, but in the interest of disclosure I feel I must.  Dede absolutely creeps me out. I mean, everything about her. No malice intended, and I cannot put my finger on it." B

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http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/26/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-grand-jury-meets-indictment-imminent/comment-page-56/#comments


Blink - August 24, 2010

23.  "Of course she told them (LE) about Rudy, just not the truth."  B

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http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/26/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-grand-jury-meets-indictment-imminent/comment-page-63/#comments


Nancy says:  If I had to be in the same room with the person I felt was responsible for taking my son and trying to kill me, I would probably lose it physically and emotionally. I totally understand Kaine not being there; makes complete sense to me.

Blink - August 25, 2010

24.  "Took the words from my keyboard- I would be the reason she needed the escort." B

Read more:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/26/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-grand-jury-meets-indictment-imminent/comment-page-66/#comments

http://www.katu.com/news/local/101511664.html


Blink - October 26, 2010

27.  This has been one of my primary reasons for suspecting that there is an indictment of some type out there. B

Read more:
http://images.bimedia.net/documents/Kaine%20October%2025%20Filing.pdf

http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/10/07/kyron-horman-missing-kaine-and-terri-horman-face-off-in-family-court/comment-page-25/#comments


Blink - October 27, 2010

18.  "It is just sickening. The matter of whether or not she is involved in Kyron’s disappearance aside, given her disassociative activities while her 7 year old step-son was missing, and her apparent Fugly coping, I would not let her my child under any set of circumstances. ...."  B

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THE 3 1/2 YEAR INVESTIGATIVE HOLD UP

Could it be that that the silent Kyron Horman investigation is far reaching as well as layered?

Could it be that investigators are not only focused on Terri but a small chain of participants?

Could it be that one link in the small chain of participants has a "safe haven" connection outside the borders of the United States?

Could it be that the "safe haven" link in the small chain of participants may be the smoking gun that will allow investigators to bring Kyron home?  That is my prayer.

Janet



"In light of something not breaking, coming forward quickly, this is going to be a marathon, not a sprint. This could go on for two, three, four years, potentially without closure."  Kaine Horman - June 3, 2011

http://www.kgw.com/news/kyron-horman/Kyron-1-year-anniversary-123042478.html


3 years later, Kyron Horman's dad still hopeful
Posted on June 3, 2013 at 3:35 PM
Updated Tuesday, Jun 4 at 6:42 PM


PORTLAND – Tuesday marks three years since Kyron Horman, who was seven years old at the time, vanished from Skyline Elementary school.

In an interview with KGW, Kyron's father Kaine said it was hard to believe three years had passed, but that he was still hopeful he’ll see Kyron again.

“There’s so many things I’d want to say. The last thing that I told him is that I loved him and I’d tell him the same thing,” Kaine said Monday. “I love you, man. Life’s not the same. And we miss you. And we’ve got so much to do together still.” ....

”Until we have any concrete information one way other another," he said, "we have to continue to pursue the fact that he’s still out there and that he’s going to be brought home. It's just a matter of when." ....

Meantime, Kaine Horman continues to speak out to Kyron. In his KGW interview, he urged his son to make a phone call or contact someone, and to immediately identify himself.

"We just want you back," Kaine Horman said, "so we can get back into that groove, and get you in with us to experience everything that we’re experiencing today."

http://www.kgw.com/news/Kyron-Hormans-dad-still-hopeful-after-three-years-210008521.html


Attorneys for Kaine Horman and Terri Horman continue to argue over who can ask what in depositions
September 13, 2013 at 8:30 AM
updated September 24, 2013 at 8:53 AM


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Shortly after Kyron's disappearance, Kaine Horman obtained a restraining order against his wife, which prohibited her from having any contact with their daughter. He said he believed Terri Horman was responsible for his son's disappearance. He also said he believed his wife had been involved in a murder-for-hire plot to kill him. ....

Chief Deputy District Attorney Don Rees has filed a separate motion to limit Terri Horman's deposition of Kaine Horman. ....

Because Kaine Horman is the victim of "an apparent crime against his own child,'' he has a legal right to information about his missing son, Rees argued.

"The fact that law enforcement has necessarily conveyed this information to Kaine Horman does not waive the longstanding and well-recognized privileged and confidential nature of information relating to a pending criminal investigation,'' Rees wrote.

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http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/10/attorneys_for_kaine_horman_and.html
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Little Boy Lost
By Kate Snow
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updated 7/26/2010 6:51:10 PM ET


TRANSCRIPT

<snipped>

Kaine says police informed him of a harrowing discovery. About six months before Kyron went missing, Kaine's wife, Terri, had allegedly tried to hire a landscaper to kill him. Kaine opened up to Dateline about the allegation.

KATE SNOW: You've been informed that she was trying to hire someone to murder you?

KAINE HORMAN: Mm-hmm. I didn't believe it at first. It was something that I couldn't even wrap my head around at the time. Just thought...

KATE SNOW: There had been no indication in your marriage –

KAINE HORMAN: No.

KATE SNOW: – that things were that bad or that she was upset with you?

KAINE HORMAN: No.

Kaine has said there were more ups and downs in his marriage to Terri after the birth of their daughter 20 months ago. Still, Kaine says he never saw something like this coming.

KAINE HORMAN: Nothing so far one way or the other that would have even put that on my radar screen as something to worry about.

It was a pivotal moment for Kaine, the moment he stopped trusting his own wife, the woman who'd been helping raise his children. Authorities are still investigating the alleged murder-for-hire attempt, but if the allegation against Terri is true, many think it speaks volume about the mission to find Kyron.

KATE SNOW: Do you think she is capable of hurting a child?

KAINE HORMAN: If you asked me before this situation, my answer's no. Based on what I know now, I don't know. I think anything is possible based on the way things have gone over the past few weeks.

KATE SNOW: You fear for your safety now, Kaine? For your daughter?

KAINE HORMAN: I fear for my daughter.

While Kaine doesn't say why Terri or anyone else might want to harm him or Kyron, the shocking allegation that his wife had tried to have him killed caused a dramatic shift in his thinking. Reeling from the news, he now believes Terri is somehow involved in Kyron's disappearance.

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http://www.today.com/id/38420266/ns/today-today_news/t/little-boy-lost/#.UqNcGfRDvcg

http://www.today.com/video/today/38239735#38239735




Little Boy Lost
By Kate Snow
NBC News
updated 7/26/2010 6:51:10 PM ET


TRANSCRIPT

<snipped>

Desiree says she went to Canada for treatment and gave Kaine temporary custody of Kyron. When she got back, still recovering and drowning in medical bills, they decided together that Kyron would be best off staying with his dad. She admits that, despite the anguish Terri had caused her in he past, she now thought Kaine and Terri could give Kyron a good life.

DESIREE YOUNG: I didn't see anything that I was unhappy with. I didn't think that my child was unhappy.

But in hindsight, she regrets the decision.

DESIREE YOUNG: I have to say honestly I've regretted it for a very long time. I don't sleep at night because of it.

By the third week into the investigation of Kyron's disappearance, Desiree's guilt was morphing into fear and dread. While her suspicions about Terri Horman were rising each day, local press was now reporting that Terri Horman was asked to take a second polygraph test.

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http://www.today.com/id/38420266/ns/today-today_news/t/little-boy-lost/#.UqNcGfRDvcg

http://www.today.com/video/today/38239735#38239735

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THE 3 1/2 YEAR INVESTIGATIVE HOLD UP

Could it be that that the silent Kyron Horman investigation is far reaching as well as layered?

Could it be that investigators are not only focused on Terri but a small chain of participants?

Could it be that one link in the small chain of participants has a "safe haven" connection outside the borders of the United States?

Could it be that the "safe haven" link in the small chain of participants may be the smoking gun that will allow investigators the means to bring Kyron home?  That is my prayer.

Janet



Could it be that the emergency divorce hearing of December 31, 2013 implies that investigative dots from the past 3 1/2 years have been connected and indictments in the Kyron Horman case will be forthcoming sooner than later?

Janet

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Kaine, MCSO committed to 'bringing Kyron home'
Updated: Tuesday, July 30, 2013, 2:20 PM PDT
Published: Tuesday, July 30, 2013, 2:20 PM PDT


BEAVERTON, Ore. (KOIN) -- Kaine Horman held a news conference Tuesday afternoon at the Wall of Hope, just hours after the mother of missing Kyron Horman said she dropped a civil suit that may have been keeping the boy's stepmother, Terri Horman, from revealing what she knows about his disappearance.

"We still have extreme confidence that they're going to drive resolution to the case," Horman said to reporters around 3:15 p.m. He said law enforcement is "again asking us to help protect the information as much as we can, so it doesn't interfere with the integrity of what they're doing. And we're doing our best in the civil arena to do that."

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BOTTOM LINE!  KAINE KNOWS!

Kaine Horman and Desiree Young to appear on 'Dr. Phil' Show on Tuesday
September 16, 2013 at 4:44 PM
updated September 24, 2013 at 8:53 AM


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On Monday, Kaine Horman released a written statement to local media, saying he'd be unavailable for comment for the next several weeks.

"Based on the current legal process and several activities either in-flight or recently completed I will be unavailable for comment for the next several weeks,'' he wrote in an email. He did say he wanted to emphasize that law enforcement is still actively investigating his son's disappearance and making progress.

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/09/kaine_horman_and_desiree_young.html


Attorneys for Kaine Horman and Terri Horman continue to argue over who can ask what in depositions
September 13, 2013 at 8:30 AM
updated September 24, 2013 at 8:53 AM


<snipped>

Shortly after Kyron's disappearance, Kaine Horman obtained a restraining order against his wife, which prohibited her from having any contact with their daughter. He said he believed Terri Horman was responsible for his son's disappearance. He also said he believed his wife had been involved in a murder-for-hire plot to kill him. ....

Chief Deputy District Attorney Don Rees has filed a separate motion to limit Terri Horman's deposition of Kaine Horman. ....

Because Kaine Horman is the victim of "an apparent crime against his own child,'' he has a legal right to information about his missing son, Rees argued.


"The fact that law enforcement has necessarily conveyed this information to Kaine Horman does not waive the longstanding and well-recognized privileged and confidential nature of information relating to a pending criminal investigation,'' Rees wrote.

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/10/attorneys_for_kaine_horman_and.html
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Privacy!!!

Fake name used to buy Horman-linked phones
Aug 6, 2010


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A friend of Terri Horman said the secret phones were intended to provide some level of privacy with their conversations, which they felt were being monitored by law enforcement.

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http://www.katu.com/news/local/100161574.html


Blink - August 7, 2010

44.  .... "What kind of conversations do you need to have outside of LE monitoring when their is a 7 year old missing would be my question."  B

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The Redacted Texts - Deception in Terri Horman's Own Word

Terri's attorneys will "vigorously" defend her nevertheless.

Janet

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Kyron Horman's stepmom won't contest husband's push out of their home; new court files allege sexual relationship
July 12, 2010 at 8:56 PM
updated July 16, 2010 at 10:31 AM


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Court filings Monday also revealed that Terri Moulton Horman, Kyron's stepmom, was "sexting" her husband's high school friend, Michael Cook, on June 30, four days after Kaine Horman left the house with their young daughter and two days after he filed for divorce and a restraining order against his wife. .....

Terri Horman's attorney also alerted the court Monday that she would not contest her husband's restraining order or his push to force her out of their Portland home on Northwest Sheltered Nook Road. The restraining order restricts Terri Horman from any parenting time with their 20-month-old daughter Kiara. Yet, she would have the right to ask the court to reconsider at a later date.

In his brief letter to the court Monday, her attorney, criminal defense lawyer Stephen Houze, wrote that his client intends to seek a family law attorney regarding the pending divorce.

Meanwhile, Kaine Horman's lawyer, Laura Rackner, asked the court Monday to impose "remedial" sanctions against Terri Horman for disclosing Kaine's current address -- information that remains sealed in the restraining order -- to one or more unauthorized parties. She's seeking sanctions, ranging from a $500 fine to confinement for being in contempt of court.

Rackner and Houze expect to appear before Judge Keith Meisenheimer at 1:30 p.m. today  to set a date for a hearing on the contempt allegations.

Houze said Monday night he would not be making any comments on the latest allegations against Terri Horman, but added, "We will be vigorously defending her, I assure you."

In the court filings, Kaine and his attorney further allege that Terri Horman went to her husband's gym and tried to "abduct" Kiara from the gym's day care while he was working out on June 28, two days after he had moved out with the child and hours before Terri was served with a restraining order.

Law enforcement informed Kaine Horman that Terri Horman not only shared concerns about her marriage with Cook and made sexual overtures to him, but made similar overtures to the landscaper who she had attempted to hire to murder Kaine months before Kyron's disappearance, the filing says.

In an interview with law enforcement, Cook told authorities that Terri Horman let him photograph the sealed restraining order, photograph Kaine Horman's new undisclosed address, and he shared the information with at least two people.

Law enforcement found hundreds of text messages between Terri Horman and Cook, as well as photographs of Terri "in various stages of undress and graphic sexual activity" on Cook's cell phone, the filing says.

"While respondent at times, references the fact that she misses both children Kiara and Kyron, the significant majority of the material deals with social and personal matters between Mr. Cook and respondent and belies that assertion," Rackner wrote.

She added that Terri Horman asked Cook to lie to her own attorney and others about the fact that she had gone to Cook's home.

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ww.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/kyrons_stepmom_wont_contest_he.html


Kaine Horman's lawyer files text exchange between Terri Horman and Michael Cook
August 16, 2010 at 9:31 PM
updated August 17, 2010 at 6:16 AM


<snipped>

Rackner continued to urge the court to have Terri Horman identify the source of the money she's using to pay criminal defense lawyer Stephen Houze. Although Terri Horman's lawyer described in court papers the reported $350,000 Rackner cited in an earlier legal filing as "grossly overstated,'' Rackner in response has submitted a copy of a June 30 text message exchange between Terri Horman and Michael Cook in which Terri Horman reportedly cited that figure to Cook.

"Hey on a side note, the news channels all just announced you've got Stephen Houze! That's awesome (it's in the news so I figured I can text it),'' Cook reportedly texted to Terri Horman at 11:20 p.m., according to Rackner's Exhibit A filed in court.
"Yep, guess how much he costs?" Terri wrote back.

 "Zillions?" Cook asked.

"350K," Terri Horman replied later.

Several of their text message exchanges June 30, obtained by Kaine's lawyer from law enforcement, were redacted in Exhibit A filed in court, but Kaine's lawyer alerts the court that she has the complete, unredacted copy that could be made available for the judge's examination.

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/kaine_hormans_lawyer_files_tex.html


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« Reply #55 on: January 08, 2014, 02:39:08 PM »

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Please delete Post #53.  I messed up with the highlighting.  Thanks.

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« Reply #56 on: January 08, 2014, 04:41:55 PM »

TERRI - DECEPTIONS - LIES

Kyron's Parents Describe Web of Deception from Stepmom (With Audio)
July 10th, 2010


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Young says Terri Horman was a frequent liar about matters large and small.

"She can't even tell the truth about her divorce or, you know, how she met Kaine, any of that," Young says. ....

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http://www.wweek.com/portland/blog-976-kyrons_parents_describe_web_of_deception_from_step.html


Day of Kyron Horman's disappearance, e-mails from Terri Moulton Horman reveal something amiss
July 27, 2010 at 7:54 PM
updated July 28, 2010 at 8:54 PM


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On Monday night, Kaine Horman acknowledged to "Dateline NBC" that he'd had an affair with Terri when Desiree was eight months pregnant with Kyron.

Kaine Horman told The Oregonian that Terri Horman deliberately misled friends about when their relationship began, saying they met when he hired her to take care of Kyron.

"Completely false," he said. ....

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http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/day_of_kyron_hormans_disappear.html
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« Reply #57 on: January 08, 2014, 05:06:14 PM »

Could it be that it may be revealed that there were cell phones purchased by Terri with fake names prior to the disappearance of Kyron?

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TERRI - WEB OF DECEPTION

Fake name used to buy Horman-linked phones
Published: Aug 6, 2010 at 3:53 PM PST
Last Updated: Aug 7, 2010 at 1:57 PM PST


PORTLAND, Ore. – KATU now knows that friends purchased cell phones to communicate with the stepmother of missing Kyron Horman after the second grader disappeared two months ago.

Additionally, one of those friends did so using a fake name, according to multiple sources on Friday.

A friend of Terri Horman said the secret phones were intended to provide some level of privacy with their conversations, which they felt were being monitored by law enforcement.  She said they also wanted to use phones with numbers not known to the press.

The phones were purchased after Kyron's father, Kaine Horman, moved out of the family's home.

The friend, who is not DeDe Spicher, went to the Lloyd Center and bought a prepaid cell phone at an electronic store. The friend now says she regrets using a fake name and that it was “stupid” and “spur of the moment.”

She said the phone she bought was for herself to use and not for Terri Horman.

She insists the three of them – DeDe, Terri and her – only got the phones because the new AT&T service would allow them to make calls out of the Horman home at Shelter Nook Road. The home is in a remote area that does not receive Verizon service, which is what the friends had.

She insists she’s not guilty of anything besides trying to be supportive of her friend, Terri. However, the friend said the more she has worked with investigators the less support she has given Terri. She said she has turned over cell phone records, business phone records and all relevant e-mails to investigators.

It also has been confirmed that at least one of the phones was purchased by DeDe Spicher.

What remains unclear is why two additional prepaid phones were purchased at another store in downtown Portland the next day under the same fake name used at the Lloyd Center. The friend said she knows those phones were paid for in cash but she did not make the purchase.

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http://www.katu.com/news/local/100161574.html
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« Reply #58 on: January 08, 2014, 05:20:01 PM »

i still think if LE is sure that TM-H, is the last known person to see kyron, it has to do
with the timeframe TM-H is saying she saw kyron going down hall to class, i think the
time she said, is prob the time kyron was with ?, and with teacher permission, and for
whatever reason LE knows that kyron must have come back from that trip with ?, or
more likely never went with ? and TM-H knew nothing about kyron being with ?, and
or having  permission to go, at the time she was questioned
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« Reply #59 on: January 08, 2014, 05:22:54 PM »

Janet TY for the pdf links,it will take me some time to read and hopefully understand
what im reading, ill post them in the docs thread too

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/hormancourtdocs12162013.pdf
http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/horman.pdf
http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/kainehorman.pdf
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