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« Reply #920 on: June 25, 2015, 08:34:39 AM »

Justice for Kyron Horman!

This coming Saturday is our Medford car wash. Noon-5 on Barnett in the parking lot in front of Winco. Come get your car cleaned and help bring Kyron home!

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« Reply #921 on: June 26, 2015, 02:00:49 PM »




It Just Takes That One

Kaine Horman - June 2, 2015


"What we need most importantly is people looking.  It just takes that one.  It takes that one connection, that one sighting, that one piece of information that we don't have and this is over."

"You know they've done a lot of due diligence in the searching around here and as the searches continue and nothing is found the probability goes up that he is still out there and he's with somebody else."

http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2015/06/02/kyron-horman-father-kaine-horman/28385267/
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« Reply #922 on: June 26, 2015, 02:35:03 PM »

The Prosecution's Star Witness?

Could it be that Dede will be the prosecution's star witness in an upcoming trial?


DEDE SPICHER

1.  AUGUST 2010 - GRAND JURY

In 2010 Dede was called to appear before the Grand Jury but did not testify.  Could it be that Terri's attorney ... realizing that Dede's wrongdoing could not be defended ... was in the beginning stages of negotiating an immunity deal for his client?

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Attorney: Spicher shared Terri Horman emails, texts with cops
August 18, 2010


<snipped>

Grand jury proceedings are not open to the public or the media. However, Spicer's attorney did confirm that his client was subpoenaed to testify but did not give any testimony under oath Monday. He said she could be called back to testify in the future. ....

Stavley also told NBC Dateline Monday that Spicher had been, and planned to keep, cooperating with investigators. He said that she had already shared text messages and emails sent to and from Terri with detectives.

"I would be, frankly, surprised if Terri Horman did not eventually face charges in this case," Stavley said. "I'd be surprised if the indictment didn't come down."

<snipped>

http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2014/07/20/11754848


DeDe's Former Boyfriend - August 2010

Excerpt


"I have learned that she (DeDe) is waiting for the DA to offer her immunity to testify about what she knows and her involvement."

http://www.realitychatter.com/t2666-jw-name-removed-initials-only-please


Blink - August 2, 2010

15.  "I know that she was not questioned, but I am of the opinion that has to do with a last minute deal she made to work with LE. If that was not fruitful, expect to see her there this week."  B

http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/26/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-grand-jury-meets-indictment-imminent/comment-page-18/#comments


Retired Captain with MCSO - Bruce McCain - August 18, 2010

"She said she's fully cooperating, but there's mixed signals here.  Spicher has retained a lawyer who has been negotiating with prosecutors ahead of her grand jury testimony."

"She the only witness that we know of that's lawyered up.  For someone that's got nothing to hide and is fully cooperative, that's a strange way to show it."

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/kyron-horman-case-dede-spicher-speaks-police-targeting/story?id=11426202


2.  OCTOBER 2012 - THE $10,000,000 CIVIL LAWSUIT

In 2012 ... citing the Fifth Amendment constitutional right not to incriminate herself ... Dede refused to answer pertinent questions when deposed by Desiree's attorneys ... questions pertaining to her whereabouts on the morning of June 4, 2014 ... questions regarding Terri.

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Terri Horman's friend DeDe Spicher declines to answer any questions about Terri Horman in deposition
October 23, 2012


Desiree Young's lawyer has filed a motion asking a judge to compel DeDe Spicher, a friend of Terri Moulton Horman's, to answer his questions after she declined to answer 142 questions during a deposition he took earlier this month stemming from Young's civil lawsuit against Horman.

Multnomah County sheriff's investigators looking into the disappearance of Kyron Horman, a second-grader who went missing from Skyline School on June 4, 2010, were interested in the whereabouts of Spicher on that day.

Spicher declined to answer any questions posed by Young's lawyers on Oct. 5 that involved Terri Horman, Kyron's stepmom, or Kyron -- each time asserting her Fifth Amendment constitutional right not to incriminate herself.

Spicher also declined to answer questions about where she was on June 4, 2010.


<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/10/terri_hormans_friend_dede_spic.html


The Deposition

Excerpts:

Did you see Terri Horman at any time on June 4, 2010?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.

Did you talk to Terri Horman at any time on June 4, 2010?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.

Have you ever been to Skyline Elementary School?
Dede: Going to assert my Fifth Amendment right.

Have you ever purchased a disposable phone?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.

Do you know where Kyron Horman is?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.

Do you know whether Kyron Horman is alive?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.

H/T - Criminal Mindz

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/DeDe-watermarked-1.pdf


3.  JULY 2013 - GRAND JURY

Could it be that in 2013 the prosecutor finally caved and Dede was afforded an immunity deal in exchange for truth pertaining to her involvement and the involvement of others in the happenings leading up to and beyond the morning when Kyron went missing ... in exchange for cooperation with investigators in doing their bidding in affording Terri a false sense of security that she had not been busted?

Could it be that the reason MCSO and the District Attorney's office would not respond affirmatively to media queries regarding Dede's claim she was "unofficially" cleared of wrongdoing is because the definition of an immunity deal implies otherwise?

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Kyron Horman's mom drops civil suit against stepmom
July 30, 2013


A key witness was now cooperating with investigators, according to Young's attorney.  He said that DeDe Spicher has testified before the grand jury for the criminal case.  Spicher was friends with Terri and her whereabouts were in question the day Kyron vanished.  She had previously declined to speak with investigators or testify.

<snipped>

http://www.krem.com/news/217645481.html


Dede Spicher says she signed immunity deal in Kyron case
September 5, 2013


<snipped>

In an online article, Dede Spicher claims she has passed a polygraph, signed an immunity deal with prosecutors, and agreed to tell all before the grand jury investigating the case. ....

The online article says that, as recently as last week, investigators talked to Dede Spicher about conducting a sting on Terri Horman. Spicher declined.

Spicher says she hasn't spoke with Kyron's stepmother in three years, and she doesn't believe Terri is responsible.

<snipped>

http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2014/07/25/12560426/


DeDe Spicher breaks silence in interview with crime blog
Sep 04, 2013


<snipped>

Legal analyst Bruce McCain shared his take about the new developments.

"It's not at all uncommon or unthinkable that the district attorney would be making an immunity deal with somebody associated with Kyron Horman's disappearance," said legal analyst Bruce McCain about the blog.

McCain did, however, question why Spicher would share the revelations with a blog, when she refused to comment during previous depositions.

"If the goal was the get her story out, she could have picked frankly a better venue," McCain said.

The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office issued a "no comment" when FOX 12 inquired about the blog's report that Spicher had been "unofficially" cleared.

The district attorney's office also issued a "no comment."


<snipped>

http://www.kptv.com/story/23343156/dede-spicher-breaks-silence-with-interview-on-crime-blog


Kaine Horman and Desiree Young to appear on 'Dr. Phil' Show on Tuesday
September 16, 2013


<snipped>

On Monday, Kaine Horman released a written statement to local media, saying he'd be unavailable for comment for the next several weeks.

"Based on the current legal process and several activities either in-flight or recently completed I will be unavailable for comment for the next several weeks,'' he wrote in an email. He did say he wanted to emphasize that law enforcement is still actively investigating his son's disappearance and making progress.

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/09/kaine_horman_and_desiree_young.html


4.  JUNE 2014 - THE FINAL ANSWER?

The investigative hold up?  Could it be that Dede is not privy to where Kyron was secreted?  Could it be ... when all is said and done ... neither Terri nor Dede are privy to where Kyron was secreted by unknown participants ... unknown participants with affiliation to a safe-haven network ... unknown participants with a connection to Dede's former boyfriend ... child advocate boyfriend?

+++++

Desiree Young - July 29, 2010

"I believe that he s stashed.  I believe it's the investigation that's going to lead us [to him]."

http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2014/07/20/11755380/


Dede's Former Boyfriend - Child Advocate - August, 2010

Excerpts


"I am convinced that Kyron is at a safe house somewhere far away."

"A safe house is a loose term for a place where Kyron may be staying. He must be with strangers as everyone who has ever had close contact with him must have been checked out by now. It is a poor term. The point made with the term is that he is alive at an unknown location."

"How would a kidnapping scenario play out??? They would have a network of people taking Kyron out of state for unknown reasons, but a well thought out explanation for Kyron and the others involved."

"It was depriving Kane of his precious son that was the motivation here, not killing Kyron."

http://www.realitychatter.com/t2666-jw-name-removed-initials-only-please

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/dede_spichers_former_boyfriend.html

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/jasonw.pdf


Kaine Horman - October 25, 2010

"I believe that Respondent has harmed or secreted Kyron.''

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/10/kaine_horman_calls_his_estrang.html


Kaine Horman - June 3, 2011

"In light of something not breaking, coming forward quickly, this is going to be a marathon, not a sprint. This could go on for two, three, four years, potentially without closure."

http://www.kgw.com/news/kyron-horman/Kyron-1-year-anniversary-123042478.html


Desiree Young - September 2013

"I am 150 percent confident that Terri Horman should be charged in the case.  Maybe we haven't found Kyron yet but we have a lot of circumstantial evidence tying Terri to Kyron's disappearance. ...."

http://ijpr.org/post/kyron-horman-search-his-mother-continues


Desiree Young - June 4, 2014

"She still hasn't told us where she was that day and why she's unaccounted for for about two hours of time,"

"They're not going to prosecute Terri until they find Kyron. And that's why it's my mission. I am going to find answers. I am going to find Kyron if I have to do it myself."

http://www.kptv.com/story/25691574/desiree-young-on-terri-horman-she-still-hasnt-told-us-where-she-was-that-day


Desiree Young - June 21, 2014

“We have lots of evidence. We just don’t have that final thing, the final answer. It’s frustrating.  It’s not a stranger that walked into Kyron’s school that took him. It was someone in our trusted circle. We know who has the answer, she just refuses to talk.”

http://koin.com/2014/06/21/volunteers-family-continue-search-for-kyron-horman/


Kaine Horman - June 2, 2015

"You know they've done a lot of due diligence in the searching around here and as the searches continue and nothing is found the probability goes up that he is still out there and he's with somebody else."

http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2015/06/02/kyron-horman-father-kaine-horman/28385267/


5.  JUNE 2015 - TERRI AND DEDE

The position of Kyron's parents regarding the involvement of Terri and Dede in the happenings encompassing the disappearance of their son has not wavered in five years. When Kaine and Desiree's briefings with investigators regarding case updates are considered ... it makes sense that the words of Kyron's mother are derived from an official foundation.

+++++

Desiree Young - June 4, 2015

Video Excerpt (2:15)

"Absolutely without a doubt, with all my heart I know that she (Terri) did it. I think she was working with one or two possible people but absolutely she did it. We know at least Dede Spicher. Yeah ... she is one of them."

http://www.kptv.com/story/29245636/family-friends-hold-vigil-for-kyron-horman-5-years-after-disappearance
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« Reply #923 on: June 26, 2015, 10:10:26 PM »

The unusually short emails from Terri on the afternoon of June 4, 2010 ... unusually short emails that Desiree referred to as "strange" did not raise any red flags at the time.  However, in hindsight ....

THE EMAILS

Day of Kyron Horman's disappearance, e-mails from Terri Moulton Horman reveal something amiss
July 27, 2010


The day Kyron Horman quietly vanished from Skyline School, stepmother Terri Moulton Horman sent several e-mails to the boy's mom -- but something was amiss.

Instead of the usual long, chatty messages, the ones on June 4 were spare and straight to the point, said Desiree Young, Kyron's mother.

"One-sentence e-mails she'd shoot off to me," Young said Tuesday in a one-on-one interview with The Oregonian. "She e-mailed me three of four times that day, which is kind of strange."

That communication NOW arouses the suspicion of Young and her ex-husband, Kaine Horman, who say they think Terri -- Kaine's estranged wife -- had something to do with the second-grader's disappearance.

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/day_of_kyron_hormans_disappear.html


THE PHONE CALL

Desiree Young - June 5, 2015 - Five Year Anniversary Vigil

Video Excerpt

" ... I remember that day like it was yesterday.  I was not prepared for that moment ... for that phone call ... the phone call that took all I knew and all I understood to be right with this world upside down.  It is as difficult to think about today as it was back then ..."

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/06/kyron_horman_remembered_at_vig.html


Desiree Young - June 4 2015

Kyron's Candlelight Vigil at the Wall of Hope
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psC8jMR02-4&feature=youtu.be
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« Reply #924 on: June 27, 2015, 02:37:10 PM »

THE IMPLICATIONS?

Wavering Allegiances

Fake name used to buy Horman-linked phones
Aug 6, 2010


<snipped>

A friend of Terri Horman said the secret phones were intended to provide some level of privacy with their conversations, which they felt were being monitored by law enforcement. She said they also wanted to use phones with numbers not known to the press. ....

The friend, who is not DeDe Spicher, went to the Lloyd Center and bought a prepaid cell phone at an electronic store. The friend now says she regrets using a fake name and that it was “stupid” and “spur of the moment.” ....

She insists she’s not guilty of anything besides trying to be supportive of her friend, Terri. However, the friend said the more she has worked with investigators the less support she has given Terri. She said she has turned over cell phone records, business phone records and all relevant e-mails to investigators.

It also has been confirmed that at least one of the phones was purchased by DeDe Spicher.

<snipped>

http://www.katu.com/news/local/100161574.html


An Oxymoron

Dede Spicher says she signed immunity deal in Kyron case
September 5, 2013


<snipped>

In an online article, Dede Spicher claims she has passed a polygraph, signed an immunity deal with prosecutors, and agreed to tell all before the grand jury investigating the case. ....

Spicher says she hasn't spoke with Kyron's stepmother in three years, and she doesn't believe Terri is responsible.

<snipped>

http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2014/07/25/12560426/
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« Reply #925 on: June 28, 2015, 09:10:44 AM »

At the urging of his wife ... a neighbour of my hubby's nephew drove 15 minute to Medford to support the cause.  He claimed it was a crazy senario.  It would have been an hour's wait.  Thumbs up to all the hard working volunteers but apparently this guy is soooo impatient.  He returned home ... talked his wife and kids into washing the vehicle while he did yard work and ... then submitted a donation on their behalf.

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Car Wash For Kyron
June 27, 2015


MEDFORD, Ore. -- It has been five years since Kyron Horman went missing and did not come home from his elementary school in Portland.

On Saturday, supporters held a car wash in Medford, where 100 percent of the donations went towards helping find him.

More than 100 cars came for a cleaning.

The next fundraiser--Race 4 Kyron---will be July 24th at Champion Raceway.

http://www.ktvl.com/shared/news/top-stories/stories/ktvl_vid_16540.shtml

http://www.gofundme.com/kyronhorman


Kyron Horman Family and Supporters Hold Car Wash To Fund New Search
Jun. 28, 2015


MEDFORD, Ore. -- It's been more than five years since Kyron Horman disappeared from his portland school.

His family and supporters are still looking for answers... and held a carwash today in Medford.

They're trying to raise money to fund another search for Kyron. That search is planned for September.

During the search, Kyron's mother, Desiree Young says they hope to hire canine support to rule out previous locations. The search will also go over new areas also.

"The more time that goes by it kind of gets faded in peoples minds and I don't want that to happen. He is still not home we still need to look for him and we still need to fight for him," said Young.

Another fundraising event for the search is coming up in late July. It is called "Race for Kyron" and it will be July 24th. Gates open at 5 pm at the Champion Raceway.

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http://www.kdrv.com/news/Medford_Carwash_.html

http://www.gofundme.com/kyronhorman


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« Reply #926 on: June 29, 2015, 12:13:21 PM »

THE SEARCHES - THE EVIDENCE

Could Desiree Young's persistent organized search efforts in the Cornelius Pass area be all about the sightings by Jim Kelley and a neighbour ... the sightings of a white pick up truck with a female driver at 3:00 PM on the day Kyron when missing and again at 2:00 AM the following morning?

Could it be that negotiations with Chad Stavley ... negotiations for an immunity deal for his client ... have been in the works since the August 2010?  If Dede was not revealing all she knew at this point in time ... could it be that "Cornelius Pass" clues were gleaned by investigators from her cell phone and emails communications with Terri.

Considering Desiree's heartfelt prayer is that Kyron has been "stashed" ... heartfelt prayer implying her precious son is alive ... could it be that disposable/untraceable cell phones that may have possibly been used by those who participated in the planning and execution encompassing the disappearing of a little boy be the focus of the searches?

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The Cornelius Pass Sightings

JUNE 2010


Day 3: FBI calls in criminal profiler in search for missing Skyline boy; interviews with students and parents begin
June 06, 2010

<snipped>

Neighbors stop by Brooks Hill Historic church, across the street from the school, to mull over the investigation. "This kind of thing is unheard of," says Jim Kelley, 50.

Kelley, who lives about a mile and a half down hill, at the end of a winding, secluded country lane off Cornelius Pass, said police, federal agents, K-9 teams and helicopters scoured the area Saturday.

"We had two odd sightings of a vehicle on our road Friday," Kelley said. Around 3 p.m., he and a neighbor reported seeing a white pick-up truck with a female driver pull to the end of the long road, idle and then turn around. Then again at 2 a.m. Saturday morning, a similar white pickup truck appeared, idled and when a neighbor loosed her dogs, eased away."

"A, it was strange to have a car there, any car there, that we didn't know, and B, it was strange to have a vehicle come down our dead-end road twice in the same day, hours after a little boy goes missing," said Kelley. "That's beyond rare."

Kelley said authorities have twice searched the deep ravine, creek and railroad tracks located near the end of his street by air and on foot.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/day_three_search_continues_hun.html


Kyron Horman Missing and Endangered:  Terri Horman Leaves The House
Friday 16 July 2010 6:15 pm


17.  Sondra says:
July 23, 2010 at 1:51 am

Could DeDe be the red head in truck ….

This is exactly who I believe was in that truck. She is FOS also, her vehicle was processed as well.  B

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http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/16/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-terri-horman-leaves-the-house/comment-page-16/


AUGUST 2010

Crews Search Again In Kyron Horman Case
August 8, 2010


Crews returned to northwest Portland on Saturday in the search for missing 7-year-old Kyron Horman.

FOX 12 has confirmed that a tip from DeDe Spicher -- a friend of Kyron's stepmother Terri Horman -- is what sparked the search.

Search teams were seen near a field off Cornelius Pass Road, about one mile south of Skyline School. Kyron was last seen at the school June 4 and his stepmother was the last person known to have seen him.

<snipped>

http://www.kptv.com/news/24556227/detail.html


Attorney: Spicher shared Terri Horman emails, texts with cops
August 18, 2010


<snipped>

Stavley also told NBC Dateline Monday that Spicher had been, and planned to keep, cooperating with investigators. He said that she had already shared text messages and emails sent to and from Terri with detectives.

"I would be, frankly, surprised if Terri Horman did not eventually face charges in this case," Stavley said. "I'd be surprised if the indictment didn't come down."

<snipped>

http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2014/07/20/11754848


SEPTEMBER 2013

Mom of missing Kyron won't 'let Terri win'
Sunday, September 1, 2013


<snipped>

Volunteers with the group Kyron Horman's World Soldiers set up a staging area in northwest Portland off Skyline Boulevard. They recruited two non-profit search agencies, and said they had an overwhelming response from volunteers.

Aided by 10 search dog teams, around 60 volunteers each day scoured the area around Skyline Boulevard and Germantown Road -- the same area searchers combed shortly after Kyron disappeared in 2010.

<snipped>

http://www.koin.com/news/marion-county/volunteers-continue-search-for-kyron


JUNE 2014

Desiree Young organizes new search to find her son, Kyron Horman
Published: June 20, 2014


It's been just over four years since Kyron Horman disappeared. Although his story has faded somewhat from public view, his mother still grieves constantly.

"It's every single day, every single second," said Desiree Young. "I think about him. I talk to him on the drive to work, whatever I'm doing.

It's easy to see how the pain can be unbearable for Young. But it's also easy to see how it's become a motivator. Young will lead another private search for Kyron this weekend. She organized a similar search effort last year. Both searches have been paid for through Young's fundraising.

"What we're hoping for obviously is evidence that may lead us to Kyron," said Young. "Or evidence that Terri may have left out somewhere."

Although Kyron's former stepmother, Terri Horman, has never been charged in his disappearance, Young is convinced she knows something. She's confident investigators will eventually find the truth.

<snipped>

http://www.katu.com/news/local/Kyron-Hormans-mom-organizes-new-search-for-missing-boy-264011041.html


MAY 2105

Kyron Horman disappearance: 'Crying and praying, hoping today will be day' he returns
May 31, 2015


<snipped>

In September, Young is planning another search.

She hopes to bring in 15 tracking and cadaver dog teams from Washington, Idaho, California and Florida to search in the Portland area, but wouldn't say where. She's organized several other searches in the past.

She said they've turned up evidence implicating Terri Moulton Horman, who was married to Kaine Horman at the time Kyron went missing. ....

"We've found evidence to suggest that Terri might have been trying to get rid of things connected to Kyron," Young said, referring to the previous searches. "She's not going to talk until we have evidence to confront her. We have to find it."

Terri Horman and her lawyers have said she wasn't the last person to see Kyron that day, but haven't offered further explanation. She has never faced charges.

Young said she's coordinating the search with the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office, but said the agency wouldn't take part. She plans to keep searching until every inch of territory is covered.

"There are so many different areas that have to be searched thoroughly," Young said. "It's a big canvas. There is no way that law enforcement can do that."

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/05/kyron_horman_disappearance_cry.html
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« Reply #927 on: June 29, 2015, 01:08:02 PM »

DESIREE'S ACCUSATION

I can only assume IF the words of Kyron's mother in the KPTV video do not reflect the truth ... Chad Stavely will be demanding a retraction FROM DESIREE YOUNG and/or will be launching a huge defamation lawsuit AGAINST DESIREE YOUNG.  However ... when Dede's allegation in 2013 that she was afforded an "immunity deal" is considered and ... when the definition of an "immunity deal" is considered ... I somehow believe that neither is going to happen.

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Desiree Young - June 4, 2015

Video Excerpt


"Absolutely without a doubt, with all my heart I know that she (Terri) did it. I think she was working with one or two possible people but absolutely she did it. We know at least Dede Spicher. Yeah ... she is one of them."

http://www.kptv.com/story/29245636/family-friends-hold-vigil-for-kyron-horman-5-years-after-disappearance
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« Reply #928 on: June 29, 2015, 05:28:05 PM »

DESIREE'S ACCUSATION

Food for Thought.   Why has Terri's $350,000 attorney not followed through with legal challenges/lawsuits re the many accusations of Kaine and Desiree ... accusations that have prevented his client from contact with her daughter for five years?

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Desiree Young - June 3, 2015

"It is Terri. We also know she was working with someone, we still don't know if it was just that someone else or if there were other people, but we definitely know it was Terri. Law enforcement is confident in that, even though they haven't named her a person of interest in that case, it's strategic, it's Terri.  We just need to figure out what happened."

"I'm not going to accept the silence. I'm going to fight against it and we're going to get answers because I refuse for this to go on.  I have hope, I have dreams all the time of Kyron coming home and they are so realistic and I want that to be our moment."

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http://www.ktvl.com/shared/news/top-stories/stories/ktvl_vid_16304.shtml
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« Reply #929 on: June 30, 2015, 03:47:49 PM »

DOWN THE ROAD

Down the road ... whether Kyron is located or not ... whether Terri is convicted or not ...  I believe that a distraught/emotional Desiree will emerge as a beacon with a purpose ... with a focus. She has in Tony a husband who comprehends her worth ... who provides required strength to move on.

However ... it is my fear that down the road the outcomes that have resulted from regrettable life choices may imply that Kaine ... who appears to thrive on being in control ... will not make it.  For Kiara's sake ... I pray I am wrong.  Nevertheless ... the following June 2015 media image reflects a broken man.  IMO

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Kyron Horman disappearance: 'Crying and praying, hoping today will be day' he returns
May 31, 2015


<snipped>

Young bounces between despair and hope like a yoyo. She worries about straining her personal relationships, knowing that people can reach a point of saturation where they don't want hear again about the sorrow. She's married to Tony Young, a major crimes detective with the Medford Police Department. Their relationship remains rock solid, she said.

"We made a pact," Young said. "We weren't going to give up on Quinn, my oldest son. We weren't going to give up on each other. And we weren't going to give up on Kyron."


<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/05/kyron_horman_disappearance_cry.html


Little Boy Lost
July 26, 2010


<snipped>

DESIREE YOUNG: Unfortunately, Kaine was not faithful to me and met another woman.

KATE SNOW: That was Terri?

DESIREE YOUNG: Mm-hmm.

KATE SNOW: So all of the sudden you know that there's another woman. You're eight months pregnant.

DESIREE YOUNG: Yeah.

KATE SNOW: Must have been a low point in your life.

DESIREE YOUNG: Yeah. It was pretty hard to handle. I cried solid for two months and didn't leave the bedroom because I didn't understand why she somehow equated to something that was better than me and my son.

<snipped>

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/38420266/ns/dateline_nbc-crime_reports/t/little-boy-lost/#.VZLt5flViko





Kaine Horman - June 2, 2015

Kaine Horman thinks about his missing son every day. "We need to find him," said Kaine. "We need to bring him home."

http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2015/06/02/kyron-horman-father-kaine-horman/28385267/
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« Reply #930 on: June 30, 2015, 06:36:12 PM »

AN UPCOMING TRIAL?

Could it be that after five years of investigators unsuccessfully attempting to connect safe haven network dots that would lead to a secreted Kyron ... a suspected long-time sealed indictment against Terri will finally come down?

Could it be that accumulated circumstantial evidence/witness testimonies will form the foundation of the Prosecutor's case against Terri?  Could it be that the testimony of at least one participant who has been afforded immunity ... at least one participant who was involved in the planning and execution of the disappearing of Kyron ... will add to the circumstantial foundation of the Prosecutor's case against Terri?

Nevertheless ... after five long years of being privy to case updates ... Desiree and Kaine continue to uphold the investigation into the disappearance of their son.  This is why I choose not to undermine the investigation.  This is why I choose not to undermine Kyron's parents ...  Kyron's parents who are in the know ... Kyron's parents who have one objective - RESOLUTION!

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Desiree Young - July 29, 2010

"I believe that he s stashed.  I believe it's the investigation that's going to lead us [to him]."

http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2014/07/20/11755380/


Kaine Horman - October 25, 2010

"I believe that Respondent has harmed or secreted Kyron.''

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/10/kaine_horman_calls_his_estrang.html


Kaine Horman - Affidavit - October 25, 2010

19. "... Law enforcement officials have informed me that more than one circuit court judge has determined probable cause exists to implicate Respondent in Kyron's disappearance and in the murder for hire plot.   Respondent and her lawyers are also aware of this. ..."

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/petition.PDF

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/10/kaine_horman_calls_his_estrang.html


Desiree Young - February 22, 2011

"Right before the holidays Tony and I received a briefing from LE where they gave us all the evidence on the case.  We're confident from that briefing that we have the right person.  Terri put everything in writing.  She had a severe severe hatred for Kyron and she made no mystery to how she felt.  She very clearly wanted him out of her life."

Video:
http://www.kpic.com/news/116678914.html?t=a&video=pop


Desiree Young - March 5, 2011

"I have full confidence in the truth and in God, he will reveal all that I know and all that the police know when he feels it is time for everyone to see and when he can bring my Kyron home. That is when people will see the true Terri Horman and you will be disappointed and sickened to point of throwing up."

https://www.facebook.com/KHOnlineD/photos/a.149091225123584.27207.145821285450578/


Kaine Horman - June 3, 2011

"In light of something not breaking, coming forward quickly, this is going to be a marathon, not a sprint. This could go on for two, three, four years, potentially without closure."

http://www.kgw.com/news/kyron-horman/Kyron-1-year-anniversary-123042478.html


Kaine Horman - August 15, 2012

Video Excerpt (1:40)

In newly released transcript from a June hearing Kyron father say that police now have mounting evidence against the boy's stepmother.  "It significantly strengthened their believe that she had involvement. ..."

http://www.kgw.com/story/local/2015/07/01/12309684/


Kaine Horman - July, 2013

We still have extreme confidence that they’re going to drive resolution to the case. Law enforcement is again asking us to help protect the information as much as we can, so it doesn’t interfere with the integrity of what they’re doing. And we’re doing our best in the civil arena to do that."

http://koin.com/2013/07/30/31700-autosave/


Desiree Young - July 30, 2013

“I don’t want anything to compromise the ongoing investigation for Kyron. For these reasons, I have instructed my attorneys to dismiss the civil case.”

http://koin.com/2013/07/30/31700-autosave/


Desiree Young - September 1, 2013

"I never do anything without talking to them (LE) ... without consulting them (LE)."

http://www.kgw.com/video/featured-videos/Raw-interview-Desiree-Young--222019741.html


Desiree Young - September 17, 2013

"I am 150 percent confident that Terri Horman should be charged in the case.  Maybe we haven't found Kyron yet but We have a lot of circumstantial evidence tying Terri to Kyron's disappearance. ...."

http://ijpr.org/post/kyron-horman-search-his-mother-continues


Kaine Horman - February 20, 2014

"There is nothing more important to me than keeping my daughter safe and bringing him [Kyron] home.  We have work to do. A lot of it is happening outside the courtroom, so we have a lot of things that need to get done. We are continuing to work with investigators and we're continuing to drive closure to his [Kyron's] case."

http://www.kgw.com/news/Terri-Horman-fights-To-Question-Landscaper-242247221.html


Desiree Young - July 11, 2014

"DA's Office will prosecute for all of the murder for hire plots (oh yeah, there are several) as well as Kyron's kidnapping and subsequent charges for that, when we find Kyron. They want to hit her with both barrels, so it sticks, and she can't get off easy. Terri is going down and so are the people who have helped her along the way.  Just a matter of Kyron being found first.  The one and only person in the way of that is Terri."

https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Kyron-Horman-Case-Turning-of-The-Tide/1428477140699516


Desiree Young - June 21, 2014

We have lots of evidence. We just don’t have that final thing, the final answer. It’s frustrating.  It’s not a stranger that walked into Kyron’s school that took him. It was someone in our trusted circle. We know who has the answer, she just refuses to talk.”

http://koin.com/2014/06/21/volunteers-family-continue-search-for-kyron-horman/


Desiree Davidson Young - May 21, 2015

"Yes this is the moment just before he walked out of the school, down the sidewalk with Terri and Kiara right next to him and then he disappeared. Well Terri and Kiara made it back to the house, why didn't Kyron? Where's Kyron?"

"I have studied this photo so many times to try to reach in and take him out of the moment that he will never return from....the moment his life was changed forever, I wish I could go into that photo to protect him from her. Terri, where's Kyron?"

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=821922851230971


Desiree Davidson Young - May 29, 2015

"Ms Porter had an email that excused Kyron, email was from Terri herself. That's why the school didn't question it further. It's Terri's fault that Ky is missing today not Skyline's."

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=982294721802125&id=125336750831264&comment_id=982299921801605&reply_comment_id=982316055


Desiree Young - June 3, 2015

"It is Terri. We also know she was working with someone, we still don't know if it was just that someone else or if there were other people, but we definitely know it was Terri. Law enforcement is confident in that, even though they haven't named her a person of interest in that case, it's strategic, it's Terri.  We just need to figure out what happened."

"I'm not going to accept the silence. I'm going to fight against it and we're going to get answers because I refuse for this to go on.  I have hope, I have dreams all the time of Kyron coming home and they are so realistic and I want that to be our moment."

http://www.ktvl.com/shared/news/top-stories/stories/ktvl_vid_16304.shtml


Desiree Young - June 4, 2015

Video Excerpt

"Absolutely without a doubt, with all my heart I know that she (Terri) did it. I think she was working with one or two possible people but absolutely she did it. We know at least Dede Spicher. Yeah ... she is one of them."

http://www.kptv.com/story/29245636/family-friends-hold-vigil-for-kyron-horman-5-years-after-disappearanc


Desiree Young - June 5, 2015

She’s (Terri) not been named a suspect just as a technicality – she’s definitely a person of interest.”

http://www.kmtr.com/news/local/Mom-to-Kyron-Im-bringing-you-home-Be-strong-Im-coming--306296871.html
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« Reply #931 on: July 01, 2015, 04:47:36 PM »

AN EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW

I can only assume that over the past five years there have been many huge competing offers from the major Networks in exchange for an exclusive interview with Stephen Houze and/or Peter Bunch and/or Terri Horman ... huge offers in exchange for the truth regarding the happenings encompassing the morning of June 4, 2010 ... the morning Kyron Horman went missing.  Which one of the major network will emerge the victor or ... will the huge offers be turned down and ... the deafening silence will continue?

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Sheriff's office: Progress continues in search for missing Kyron Horman
July 23, 2010


<snipped>

Here is the text of the Q&A with Sheriff Staton: ....

Q: When was the last time Terri Horman met with police?

We have not spoken with her since she retained counsel.

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/mcso_progress_continues_in_sea.html
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« Reply #932 on: July 02, 2015, 04:26:37 PM »

Blink

Throughout the past five years I have appreciated the Oregonian/Oregon Live coverage on the Kyron Horman case.  Maxine is one of my favorite reporters/writers.  Your comment re the unreported interview that she had with Terri's attorneys was troubling.  I emailed Maxine.  I had expected her to respond with an explanation ... not an outright denial.

Over the years local media outlets as well as the major networks would have bent over backwards affording Peter Bunch and/or Stephen Houze a platform.  Both choose to remain silent.  Could it be that Terri's ongoing silence has everything to do with adherence to her attorneys' instructions.

Janet

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Blink on Crime - July 1, 2015

2.  ... Here’s another gem for y’all.  I have recently been made aware that Maxine Bernstein interviewed BOTH Houze and Bunch in court years ago and asked questions regarding how they believed TH was innocent, etc, they both gave an on camera interview and ….. SHE NEVER AIRED IT. Not a syllable. I am going to guess that was what Houze was referring to when he blasted the media about not researching the merits of the civil suit that was dropped.  B

39.  I guess it is fair to note that I doubt Bernstein made that call on her own- it was likely the news editor, but regardless, how bias is that?  B

http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/12/31/kyron-horman-missing-new-years-eve-settlement-ends-horman-marriage/#comments


Maxine Bernstein - July 1, 2015

False - I have reported all that I've learned.  On camera interview? I'm a print reporter who uses an i-phone to capture video occasionally, but not in court in the Horman case, so not sure what this is referring to.

I captured the statements Houze and Bunch made in open court in my stories.

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« Reply #933 on: July 03, 2015, 04:31:10 PM »

ROLOFF FARMS





http://therolofffamily.com/farm/pumpkin-season

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THE PUMPKIN PATCH TRADITION

Kyron Horman's blended family: Friends describe a close, supportive group
June 19, 2010


<snipped>

According to friends and family, the Hormans are a tight-knit, loving family that enjoys doing things together.

They play board games, go bowling with friends and take trips. In 2009, they visited Walt Disney World in Orlando, Fla. Late last year they went to the Roloff Farm in Helvetia where the reality TV show "Little People, Big World" is filmed. And recently, they peered at the animals at the Oregon Zoo.

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/kyron_hormans_blended_family_f.html


Kyron Horman's parents reveal new details in interviews; mystery of boy's whereabouts remains
June 25, 2010


<snipped>

They said they think search teams were frequently spotted on Sauvie Island because Kyron's been on several field trips there, and his family visits a pumpkin patch.

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/kyron_hormans_parents_reveal_n.html


THE ROLOFFS - GIVING BACK

Community works to raise funds for Kyron search
Sep 1, 2010


People came out en mass Wednesday to raise money for the search fund in the case of missing 7-year-old Kyron Horman.

Kyron’s parents, Desiree Young and Kaine Horman were both at the Godfather’s Pizza in Bethany to thank volunteers and to lend their support. .....

Also stopping by was Matt Roloff from the TLC show, “The Little People.”

“The little guy disappeared really, really close to our farm,” Roloff said. “In fact, we’ve heard he was down at the farm in the months leading up to his disappearance. I think when we heard that we were just, you know, made it feel close to us.”

In fact, Roloff said he wants to help more by offering his farm to Kaine and Desiree for another fundraising event.

<snipped>

Video:
http://www.katu.com/news/local/102022208.html?tab=video


Kyron’s parents promote child ID kits at Roloff pumpkin patch
October 20, 2010


HELVETIA, Ore. While thousands of people packed the Roloff Farm in Helvetia Saturday to search for the perfect pumpkin, Kaine Horman and Desiree Young continued the search for their missing son.

Kyron Horman disappeared from Skyline School on June 4th. His parent s hoped to raise awareness about their missing son and to raise money for search efforts.

Amid pumpkins and petting zoos, there was a booth selling Kyron t-shirts, dog tags and posters. There was also a booth for families to create child identification kits.

The family was very familiar with the pumpkin patch; they had taken Kyron pumpkin picking at Roloff Farm in years past.

He loves little pumpkins, said Desiree. Kyron loves to come and pick out just the right pumpkin, just the right size. So we got one for him today and we're going to go put it out at the Wall of Hope.

Amy and Matt Roloff, the stars of the reality show, Little People, Big World, said they wanted the Roloff Farm to help Kyron's family.

We knew that we would have a busy pumpkin season and we wanted to do what we could to continue to get that word out, said Matt Roloff.

<snipped>

Video:
http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2014/07/20/11774810/


"Too big Momma."  "Too big Dad."


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« Reply #934 on: July 03, 2015, 04:52:34 PM »


WHERE WAS KIARA?

Magic Cleaners?   Why did Terri not reveal in her timeline of June 5, 2010 that Magic Cleaners was one of her stops on the morning of June 4, 2010?  Why for three years was a stop at Magic Cleaners not mentions in ANY posted timeline?  What motivated Stephen Houze to subpoena Sari Shanti over three years later?

In September, 2013 ... after being served a subpoena by Stephen Houze ... Sari Shanti shares with KGW's Kyle Iboshi that Terri had been in her establishment on the morning Kyron went missing and reveals that Terri was ALONE!  No Kiara.  Where was Kiara? In the truck?  Who was watching her?

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Terri's Timeline

Terri Horman - Timeline in Her Own Words - June 5, 2010

“They are blaming me in the blogs. I just want to scream,” she wrote in one e-mail to a KATU News source the day after her stepson, Kyron Horman, was reported to be vanished from Skyline School during a science fair. ....

"I left the school at 9 .... I have a receipt showing I was checking out at Fred Meyer 7 miles away at 9:12am. I went to another FM looking for meds for Kitty they didn't have at the first FM. Then I was trying to get Kitty to sleep in the truck for a few minutes, but no go, so off to the gym at 11:20. Out at 12:20. Home at 12:45. Kaine home at 2. Bus at 3:30. That was my day - they keep asking me. Now on my 5th interview with them."

http://www.katu.com/news/local/100323934.html


Magic Cleaners

Judge: Terri Horman's lawyers cannot question investigator
September 16, 2013


<snipped>

Investigators said for years that Terri Horman was the last person to see Kyron before he disappeared from Skyline Elementary in July, 2010. But her attorneys said Friday that was not the case. ....

Judge Kantor Monday granted a motion filed by Kaine Horman's attorneys to stop Terri Horman's attorneys from questioning deputy O'Donnell.

However, Terri Horman's attorneys can conduct their own investigation. They will be allowed to interview witnesses, including teachers at Skyline Elementary and employees of Fred Meyer, Magic Cleaners and 24-hour Fitness.
They will not be allowed to question Skyline students. ....

Video Excerpt (1:25)

Kyle Iboshi:  Terri Horman's lawyers also hope to question the owner of Magic Cleaners in Beaverton.  She says that Terri came in  ALONE and dropped off some clothes the day Kyron disappeared.

Sari Shanti:  She dropped off two shirts for cleaning.  There was nobody with her.

Reporter:  A little kid?

Sari Shanti: No.


http://www.kgw.com/news/Judge-Terri-Hormans-lawyers-cannot-subpoena-lead-investgator-223927381.html



Kaine Horman - Oprah Winfrey - September 16, 2010

"She would change her story daily, if not more than that.  Every time you talked to her, it was a little bit different about what happened that day."

http://www.kgw.com/story/local/2015/07/06/11763336/


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According to Sari Shanti ... Terri was ALONE when she stopped by Magic Cleaners on "the day" Kyron went missing ... a stop that Terri failed to mention in her original timeline.  However ... according to Desiree in the following May 21, 2015 posting ... Terri left Skyline earlier with both Kyron and Kiara.

When past speculation that implied the contrary is considered ... apparently Kaine confirmed in a July 8, 2010 news conference at a Beaverton hotel Kiara was with Terri at Skyline on the morning of June 4, 2010.  The video of the interview appears to be no longer posted.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/kyron_hormans_father_recalls_w.html
 
When ongoing briefings with investigators re case updates are considered ... I can only assume Desiree's recent revelation must have an official foundation.  Otherwise ... it would make sense that a legal challenge by Terri's attorneys will be forthcoming.


Desiree Davidson Young - May 21, 2015

"Yes this is the moment just before he walked out of the school, down the sidewalk with Terri and Kiara right next to him and then he disappeared. Well Terri and Kiara made it back to the house, why didn't Kyron? Where's Kyron?"

"I have studied this photo so many times to try to reach in and take him out of the moment that he will never return from....the moment his life was changed forever, I wish I could go into that photo to protect him from her. Terri, where's Kyron?"

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« Reply #935 on: July 06, 2015, 10:05:45 AM »

Blink

Throughout the past five years I have appreciated the Oregonian/Oregon Live coverage on the Kyron Horman case.  Maxine is one of my favorite reporters/writers.  Your comment re the unreported interview that she had with Terri's attorneys was troubling.  I emailed Maxine.  I had expected her to respond with an explanation ... not an outright denial.

Over the years local media outlets as well as the major networks would have bent over backwards affording Peter Bunch and/or Stephen Houze a platform.  Both choose to remain silent.  Could it be that Terri's ongoing silence has everything to do with adherence to her attorneys' instructions.

Janet

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Blink on Crime - July 1, 2015

2.  ... Here’s another gem for y’all.  I have recently been made aware that Maxine Bernstein interviewed BOTH Houze and Bunch in court years ago and asked questions regarding how they believed TH was innocent, etc, they both gave an on camera interview and ….. SHE NEVER AIRED IT. Not a syllable. I am going to guess that was what Houze was referring to when he blasted the media about not researching the merits of the civil suit that was dropped.  B

39.  I guess it is fair to note that I doubt Bernstein made that call on her own- it was likely the news editor, but regardless, how bias is that?  B

http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/12/31/kyron-horman-missing-new-years-eve-settlement-ends-horman-marriage/#comments


Maxine Bernstein - July 1, 2015

False - I have reported all that I've learned.  On camera interview? I'm a print reporter who uses an i-phone to capture video occasionally, but not in court in the Horman case, so not sure what this is referring to.

I captured the statements Houze and Bunch made in open court in my stories.

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Just bumping this.I also would like to see a response to this.
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« Reply #936 on: July 06, 2015, 04:24:04 PM »

As far as I can determine the KGW videos of the August 27, 2010 Kaine and Desiree interview with KGW are no longer posted.  Could it be that the revealed info had already been determined circumstantial evidence by case investigators?

Kaine Horman & Desiree Young 8/27
http://www.kgw.com/video/featured-videos/Kaine-Horman--Desiree-Young-827-kyron-horman-missing-portland-101687513.html

Kaine Horman & Desiree Young 8/27 pt. 2  
http://www.kgw.com/news/kyron-horman/Kaine-Horman--Desiree-Young-827-pt-2-kyron-horman-missing-portland-101688128.html
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« Reply #937 on: July 06, 2015, 06:07:49 PM »

Kaine Horman - May 30, 2015

"She (Terri) has become a dead end as far as making progress,  Someone else was involved. There's someone we don't know about."

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/05/kyron_horman_case_as_5th_anniv.html

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The Witnesses

Captain Gates states that Terri was the "last known" person to be observed with Kyron.  Who could the two other persons implied in the August 2010 KGW interview with Desiree and Kaine?

Could one person be Dede?

Could another person be a child advocate who was involved in the secreting of Kyron ... a child advocate with a personal connection to Dede ... a child advocate linked to an integrated "safe haven" network?

1.  JUNE 2010 - CAPTAIN JASON GATES

Kyron's mom: 'So sorry that I was not there to protect you'
June 21, 2010


<snipped>

Capt. Jason Gates of the Multnomah County sheriff's department issued the following statement Friday on the decision to request information on Kyron's stepmother:

"Detectives work in this case is exhaustive and they, along with Kyron's family, are asking for the community's assistance regarding anyone who saw not only Kyron, but also who may have seen Terri Horman and/or the truck she was driving that morning. Terri is the last person known to have seen him before he disappeared."

<snipped>

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/06/21/oregon.missing.boy.letter/index.html?hpt=Sbin


2.  AUGUST 2010 - DISTRICT ATTORNEY ROD UNDERHILL

Kyron Horman investigators ask public to help track white pickup Terri Horman drove
August 11, 2010


Law enforcement working on the 10-week-old case of missing 7-year-old Kyron Horman appealed to the public Wednesday for "investigative assistance" to help nail down who else was in or around the white Ford F-250 pickup that Kyron's stepmother drove to school the day he disappeared.

Multnomah County Chief Deputy District Attorney Rod Underhill said a witness, or witnesses, have reported seeing someone else by the Hormans' extended-cab pickup while it was parked in front of the school between 8:15 a.m. and 8:45 a.m. on June 4, the day Kyron disappeared. ....

Someone possibly moved the pickup and parked it up a gravel path in front of the school's playground while Terri Moulton Horman was inside the school with her stepson for his science fair.

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/kyron_horman_case_investigator.html


3.  AUGUST 2010 - KYRON'S PARENTS

08-28-2010, 12:02 PM
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White Truck Transciption


Kaine Horman & Desiree Young 8/27 pt.2
http://www.kgw.com/news/kyron-horman/Kaine-Horman--Desiree-Young-827-pt-2-kyron-horman-missing-portland-101688128.html

-2:50

Reporter: Potentially one person in the truck... three people... the white truck, Terri's truck... can you talk...

Desiree: (interrupts) Kaine's truck (laughs)


Reporter: a little bit about that...

Reporter: Kaine's truck. I'm sorry... What are your thoughts on that new information? Do you feel as though Dede was in that truck?

Desiree: (interrupts) It just makes me feel stronger that, that there were people helping her... that Kyron saw it all and was involved and that there were other people helping her... which is what we suspected.

Reporter: So because... but do you believe that a man was spotted? I mean again, these are witness accounts, and I don't know how much information that you've been privy to about what the, what is the likeliest scenario?

Desiree: Well first of all, why would Kyron even be outside the school? Why would he even be near a truck with somebody else in it?

You know. I mean it's significant in a huge way to the case. If the timeline played out the way that it supposedly did? That contradicts that completely.

So I mean, other than that (shrugs), that's how significant it was to me.

Reporter: How authentic do you think that witness is? I mean how...

Desiree: (interrupts, shifts eyes to side) Very authentic.

Reporter: So it's a credible...

Desiree: (interrupts, shifts eyes to side and down) Yep.

Reporter: ...witness.

Reporter: And what exactly are they claiming that they saw?

Kaine: (audibly sighs/intakes breath, clears throat)

Kaine: Well I think, Sarah, I think to be more direct about it... I think that law enforcement needs to determine that still.

Desiree: Yeah, that part.

Kaine: We've been briefed on a lot of the information and the tips and the things that they're looking into, and that was part of that bucket of tips that they're...

Desiree: (interrupts) Yeah.

Kaine: ...that they're working their way through. Until they confirm and until they bring some of that information forward to the greater public, they're still looking into it, so I think us commenting on that is a little bit premature.

There's how we feel about it...

Desiree: (interrupts) Yeah.

Kaine: ...and then there are the facts. And the facts...

Reporter: (interrupts) How do you feel about it?

Kaine: How do I feel about it? I feel it's definitely significant. I don't know how credible the sources are. I'm hoping that they are because it helps us bring more of those pieces that we talked about before, the puzzle, in to paint the bigger picture, but until they're confirmed, I'm not going to maintain a sense of false hope that they're valid, until they're actually valid, until I see them and get from law enforcement that yep, this is verified, this is air tight, this is another piece that we found, and then I will believe it.

Desiree: Yeah.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?112948-8-27-KGW-TV-Interview-with-Desiree-and-Kaine/page3


4.  OCTOBER 2010 - POLICE FLIER

New Kyron flier shows truck, Spicher
October 30, 2013


Police were circulating a new flier as part of the investigation into the disappearance of Kyron Horman and this time it has photos of his step-mom s close friend, DeDe Spicher.

The police flier shows three photos of Spicher and asks, Did you see DeDe Spicher anywhere in the area on June 4, 2010? ....

It also contains more photos of Kyron s step-mother, Terri Moulton Horman and her white truck, as well as questions about both. ....

A previous police flier featured Terri, but this was the first time investigators have zeroed in on Spicher in this way. ....

On Monday KGW learned that at least two people told police that they saw a second person with Terri in her truck on the day she took him to school and he vanished. ....

Police have not identified who they believe that second person was ....

<snipped>

http://www.kgw.com/story/local/2015/06/24/11757514/
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« Reply #938 on: July 07, 2015, 11:37:57 AM »

THE MISSING DOTS

Could it be that both Dede and a child advocate accomplice have been afforded immunity by the DA in exchange for the truth regarding any involvement and any knowledge encompassing the disappearance of Kyron ... in exchange for co-operation in bringing about a resolution?

However ... when all is said and done ... could an integrated "safe haven" network imply that Dede and a child advocate accomplice as well as Terri are not privy to the whereabouts of a secreted Kyron?

Could the preceding scenario be the reason that investigators after five long years have yet to connected the dots regarding Kyron's whereabouts

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Kyron's Parents - June 4, 2015

"We firmly believe that Terri has worked with people on this, had help after the fact," Young said.

"We need investigators to continue to focus on other avenues that might reveal who those person or persons are," said Kaine Horman.

http://kobi5.com/news/local-news/item/5-years-since-kyron-horman-disappearance-search-still-going-strong.html#.VX8QLPlViko
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« Reply #939 on: July 07, 2015, 12:25:13 PM »

A CHILD ADVOCATE CONNECTION?

If a child advocate with a personal connection to Dede has not been afforded immunity in exchange for the truth encompassing his possible involvement ... the truth encompassing any knowledge ... could it be that it is just a matter of time until he will be presented with an offer?

Could it be that he August 2010 letter authored by Dede's former boyfriend that was submitted to the Oregon Live ... the August 2010 letter giving an insight into their relationship ... only served to create red flags casting suspicion on him and his former girlfriend.

Think about it.  When Dede was deposed by Desiree's attorney in the 2012 civil lawsuit against Terri ... she was questioned re her former boyfriend.  Why?

Also ... why was Dede evasive regarding ... her former boyfriend's last name ... her former boyfriend of one year with whom she had contemplated marriage?

More importantly ... why was Dede evasive regarding the date of the break up ... the date that differed from her former boyfriend's account?

Could it be that cell phone records revealed investigative red flags ... investigative red flags that could be connected to the Kyron Horman case?  


1.  RE-INTERVIEW?

Five years later: Why Kyron Horman's dad believes his son is alive
Published: Jun 3, 2015


<snipped>

The search for the boy remains an active investigation. According to the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office and District Attorney's Office, more than 4,000 tips have come in.Kaine said there's a big push to re-interview people detectives initially talked with and expand those interviews beyond what happened on or around June 4, 2010.

<snipped>

http://www.katu.com/news/investigators/Five-years-later-why-Kyron-Hormans-dad-believes-hes-alive-305768091.html

The Interview (21:00):
http://www.podcastchart.com/podcasts/bald-faced-truth-with-john-canzano/episodes/bft-kaine-horman-tim-kawakami-brenda-tracy-jim-florentine-don-jamieson/pop


2.  THE LETTER - IN HIS OWN WORDS

DeDe Spicher's former boyfriend describes Terri Moulton Horman's friend as a 'high-energy, dynamic' person who changed dramatically
August 18, 2010


<snipped>

Jason W, who has volunteered as a child's advocate in Multnomah County for more than a decade, said he dated Spicher for about 10 months, and they had even talked of marriage, but their relationship fell apart in early August 2009. ....

W wrote an account of his relationship with Spicher, which he sent to The Oregonian.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/dede_spichers_former_boyfriend.html


Dede's Former Boyfriend - The Letter

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/jasonw.pdf


3.  THE DEPOSING OF DEDE

Terri Horman's friend DeDe Spicher declines to answer any questions about Terri Horman in deposition
October 23, 2012


Desiree Young's lawyer has filed a motion asking a judge to compel DeDe Spicher, a friend of Terri Moulton Horman's, to answer his questions after she declined to answer 142 questions during a deposition he took earlier this month stemming from Young's civil lawsuit against Horman.

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/10/terri_hormans_friend_dede_spic.html


The Deposition

Dede's Former Boyfriend - Page 4/20 - 5/20

Q.  Have you had any significant others in your life?
A.  Yes?
Q.  Who is the significant other that you had?
A.  Jason W.  Yeah, that's his last name?

Q.  How long were you and he ....?
A.  About a year.
Q.  Significant to each other ....?
A.  Mm-Hmm
Q.  Did you live together?
A.  No.
Q.  Okay.  Was the relationship somethin that got close to marriage or ....?
A.  We talked about it.
Q.  Okay.  Why did you break up with him?
A.  Because I found him to be emotionally needy.
Q.  And when did your relationship with him end?
A.  I don't remember.
Q.  Was it in 2010?

A.  Yes, probably.
Q.  Were you still involved with him when you were working for Ms. Hockensmith?
A.  No.
Q.  So you had already ended that relationship?
A.  Yes.
Q.  And that is the last person that you have had a significant relationship with?
A.  Yes.  

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/DeDe-watermarked-1.pdf


Dede's Former Boyfriend - The Letter

"I suspect that sometime after we broke-up on August 1st, 2009 ...."

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/jasonw.pdf


Dede's Former Boyfriend - Internet Posting

"Since March of 2009, I only saw DeDe about a half-dozen times with no more contact in any way since our final phone conversation of 8/1/09."

http://www.realitychatter.com/t2666-jw-name-removed-initials-only-please


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