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« Reply #960 on: July 10, 2012, 11:57:45 PM »

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2012/07/10/new-zimmerman-evidence-be-released

More Zimmerman evidence coming soon
updated 5:11 PM EDT, Tue July 10, 2012

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The evidence in the Zimmerman case is being released slowly for two reasons. Florida is an open records state, and generally the evidence gathered by law enforcement is released to the public without restrictions. However, Judge Kenneth Lester has made an exception in this case, allowing attorneys from both sides to review evidence in the case and withhold information they see fit before releasing it.
 
If the media or the public objects to what information is being withheld, they can petition the court for its release. A hearing can then be held to determine whether the evidence should be released.
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« Reply #961 on: July 11, 2012, 09:21:54 PM »

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2012-07-10/story/stand-your-ground-task-force-debates-watch-group-members-right-be-armed

Stand Your Ground task force debates watch group members' right to be armed
Posted: July 10, 2012 - 7:09pm  |  Updated: July 11, 2012

TALLAHASSEE - At the heart of a state task force's second meeting reviewing Florida's Stand Your Ground law was whether neighborhood watch members should be able to carry guns if they have a concealed weapons permit.
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Read more at Jacksonville.com: http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2012-07-10/story/stand-your-ground-task-force-debates-watch-group-members-right-be-armed#ixzz20MmVPolM
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« Reply #962 on: July 11, 2012, 09:33:14 PM »

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2012-07-10/story/stand-your-ground-task-force-debates-watch-group-members-right-be-armed

Stand Your Ground task force debates watch group members' right to be armed
Posted: July 10, 2012 - 7:09pm  |  Updated: July 11, 2012

TALLAHASSEE - At the heart of a state task force's second meeting reviewing Florida's Stand Your Ground law was whether neighborhood watch members should be able to carry guns if they have a concealed weapons permit.
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Read more at Jacksonville.com: http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2012-07-10/story/stand-your-ground-task-force-debates-watch-group-members-right-be-armed#ixzz20MmVPolM

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A separate three-person panel familiar with neighborhood watch programs said that no program they are familiar with allows people associated with them to carry guns.
"They are not allowed to carry any firearms even if they have a permit," said Jane Meier, community relations coordinator with the Melbourne Police Department. "They are trained to assist law enforcement."
 ::snipping2::

BBM    I have read that GZ was a self-appointed neighborhood watchman, but has it been stated, and I missed it, that he went through this training?

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« Reply #963 on: July 11, 2012, 11:57:52 PM »

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IIRC, someone asked him to start the neighborhood watch.  Anyway, I have not read about any training that he received.  However, he did start the neighborhood watch.

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George Zimmerman, 28, the neighborhood watch volunteer charged last month with second-degree murder in the case, was apparently known to some members of the Sanford police, according to the documents. He had called the police frequently and had contacted them to set up the neighborhood watch in the Retreat at Twin Lakes, where he lived and where he shot Mr. Martin.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/18/us/new-details-are-released-in-shooting-of-teenager.html/

He probably received the following material from the Sanford police:

Flyer--"So You're Interested in Starting a Neighborhood Watch?"
http://www.sanfordfl.gov/police/flyers/Neighborhood_Watch_english.pdf

Handbook--"Neighborhood Watch Program"
http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigation/docs/NWProgramHandbook.pdf
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« Reply #964 on: July 12, 2012, 12:11:17 AM »

Moved Trayvon Martin memorial causes controversy
July 11 '12

A memorial to Trayvon Martin has been moved from the entrance to the neighborhood where he was slain.

A community group and Martin's parents asked for something to be placed back at the site, so the teen is not forgotten.
 
Sanford City Manager Norton Bonaparte said he was under the impression the time had come to move forward and remove the memorial as part of the healing process and thought everyone was in agreement, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
 
The memorial to Trayvon Martin had been there since the teen was shot and killed in late February. It included a cross or two, flowers and a message to remember his young life.
 
The area is now clear. City workers removed all of the items and they were taken to the Sanford City Museum. They'll stay there until somebody decides what the next step for the items is and if they'll be displayed again.
 
The Concerned Citizens of Sanford group had been tending to the memorial and said it wasn't happy.
 
"It's upsetting because the community (has) not completed grieving or mourning," Concerned Citizens of Sanford representative Vera June said. "When they moved it, it was as if they had re-opened some wounds that had just started to heal, and we want people to continue to grieve properly."
 
 The group wants the memorial put back. An attorney for Martin's parents said their wishes are simple.   ::snipping2:: 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/48153194
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« Reply #965 on: July 12, 2012, 06:50:50 AM »

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IIRC, someone asked him to start the neighborhood watch.  Anyway, I have not read about any training that he received.  However, he did start the neighborhood watch.

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George Zimmerman, 28, the neighborhood watch volunteer charged last month with second-degree murder in the case, was apparently known to some members of the Sanford police, according to the documents. He had called the police frequently and had contacted them to set up the neighborhood watch in the Retreat at Twin Lakes, where he lived and where he shot Mr. Martin.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/18/us/new-details-are-released-in-shooting-of-teenager.html/

He probably received the following material from the Sanford police:

Flyer--"So You're Interested in Starting a Neighborhood Watch?"
http://www.sanfordfl.gov/police/flyers/Neighborhood_Watch_english.pdf

Handbook--"Neighborhood Watch Program"
http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigation/docs/NWProgramHandbook.pdf

Thanks Grace-land, I appreciate your time and info.
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« Reply #966 on: July 12, 2012, 12:21:37 PM »

http://download.gannett.edgesuite.net/wtsp/pdfs/2012/7-12-12-zimmerman.pdf
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« Reply #967 on: July 12, 2012, 12:24:55 PM »

Please pardon if this link has been previously posted.  It leads to a blog about TM at the 7-11...it's really based on what transpired while TM was captured on the store's security camera.  It's interesting...but you have to watch the videos with the sound on to get all of what the blogger is presenting.

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/05/26/interesting-development-trayvon-martin-quid-pro-quo-at-the-7-11/


I read this shortly after it was posted, not going back to read it again, as it was pure speculation.  See page 2 as to where TM's button was....
http://download.gannett.edgesuite.net/wtsp/pdfs/2012/7-12-12-zimmerman.pdf
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« Reply #968 on: July 12, 2012, 12:58:29 PM »

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-07-12/zimmerman-trayvon-martin-shooting/56166884/1



More evidence released in Trayvon Martin case

By Gary Strauss, Marisol Bello and Yamiche Alcindor, USA TODAY
Updated 21m ago


A Florida state attorney's release Thursday of FBI reports surrounding the death of Trayvon Martin shows that his accused killer and self-appointed neighborhood watchman had a pattern of calling authorities about criminal activities and safety issues in the neighborhood.

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The 284-page report from special prosecutor Angela Corey shows that George Zimmerman made a half dozen calls to Sanford police in the months leading up to his fatal February altercation with Martin, 17. Zimmerman has been charged with second-degree murder in connection with the unarmed African-American's death. Zimmerman, 28, has said he acted in self-defense.

Just hours after the shooting, Zimmerman told investigators that the shooting followed a life-and-death struggle during which the teen told him, "You're going to die tonight."

The report is part of a Justice Department investigation to determine if Martin's civil rights were violated and Zimmerman's actions were racially motivated, and its findings could be used by both prosecutors and Zimmerman's defense team.

In one of the calls to Sanford police, Zimmerman complained about children playing and running in the street. "It's habitual," he told the dispatcher. "I'm just concerned for their safety and the drivers in the neighborhood."

Zimmerman identified himself in several calls as a neighborhood watch volunteer, telling a police dispatcher one time that there were several break-ins in the area. Four calls were about black men he witnessed in the neighborhood following the break-ins.

Zimmerman described all four as "suspicious" and people that he had never seen before. In almost every case, he said he didn't know what they were doing, but they looked suspicious. In one case, he said two men were "loitering" in a white Chevy. In another, a man in a black jacket was walking around the side of a neighbor's house.

Zimmerman was arrested 44 days after the shooting. The delay triggered protests nationwide and the departure of Sanford's police chief.

Zimmerman was released last month on $1 million bond after having his previous $150,000 bond revoked after prosecutors presented evidence that he had l
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« Reply #969 on: July 12, 2012, 01:00:15 PM »

oops the last 2 lines -

lied about his finances. He is currently in a safe house at an undisclosed location.
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« Reply #970 on: July 12, 2012, 01:07:50 PM »

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57471108-504083/trayvon-martin-case-sanford-police-gave-different-accounts-of-george-zimmermans-injuries-documents-say/

July 12, 2012 12:01 PM

Trayvon Martin Case: Sanford police gave different accounts of George Zimmerman's injuries, documents say

According to new evidence released by prosecutors, Sanford police officers gave conflicting accounts of George Zimmerman's injuries during the shooting attack of Trayvon Martin

(CBS/AP) ORLANDO, Fla. - Newly released documents give conflicting accounts from Sanford police officers of George Zimmerman's injuries in the minutes after he fatally shot 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

Prosecutors released the documents Thursday, which show that some officers thought Zimmerman's nose was broken but others didn't. The officers agreed that the former neighborhood watch volunteer had cuts on the back of his head.

The degree of Zimmerman's injuries could be important in his claim of self-defense under Florida's "stand your ground" law. Zimmerman is charged with second-degree murder in the shooting.

The documents also provide an account of Martin's activities with his cousin the day before the shooting and show crime scene photos.

Zimmerman was arrested 44 days after the shooting. The delay triggered protests nationwide and the departure of Sanford's police chief.
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« Reply #971 on: July 12, 2012, 03:40:51 PM »

Since I'm not as good as most of you at gathering docs. Has anybody began gathering what was supposedly released today?  I'm going to do my best at looking around myself, but sure one you smart monkeys are already on it.

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« Reply #972 on: July 12, 2012, 04:10:34 PM »

FBI interviews, other evidence released in George Zimmerman murder case
By Jason Sickles | The Lookout – 3 hrs ago

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/fbi-interviews-crime-scene-photos-other-evidence-released-154730328.html

Link to actual documents
Hundreds of pages of documents
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« Reply #973 on: July 12, 2012, 05:57:59 PM »

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lied about his finances. He is currently in a safe house at an undisclosed location.

The only thing to trash this guy is that he lied about his finances...
I hope that there are more evidence to prove that GZ killed TM from his back and GZ didn't have a single scratch on his nose and head an angelic monkey
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« Reply #974 on: July 12, 2012, 06:12:31 PM »

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/07/12/2892510/more-evidence-released-in-zimmerman.html

Posted on Thursday, 07.12.12
FBI records: agents found no evidence that Zimmerman was racist
 
After interviewing nearly three dozen people in the George Zimmerman murder case, the FBI found no evidence that racial bias was a motivating factor in the shooting of Trayvon Martin, records released Thursday show.

Even the lead detective in the case, Sanford Det. Chris Serino, told agents that he thought Zimmerman profiled Trayvon because of his attire and the circumstances — but not his race.
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Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/07/12/2892510/more-evidence-released-in-zimmerman.html#storylink=cpy
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« Reply #975 on: July 12, 2012, 06:22:52 PM »


FBI: George Zimmerman Tried to Buy More Guns After Trayvon Shooting
 theatlanticwire.com ^ | 12 July, 2012 | Adam Martin

Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2012 3:52:42 PM by marktwain

Update (12:50 p.m. EDT): The entire batch of new evidence is available on Scribd now, Weiner points out via Twitter. So is a recording of the police and fire radio traffic from the night of the shooting, via the Orlando Sentinel.

Original: George Zimmerman was easygoing with police when they arrived at the scene of Trayvon Martin's shooting, but according to new evidence from the FBI, he was afraid for his life in the weeks after the shooting became national news and even tried to buy more guns. The new batch of evidence, which special prosecutor Angela Corey released Thursday, includes findings from the FBI's investigation into whether Zimmerman violated 17-year-old Martin's civil rights. The FBI interviewed gun shop owners, according to The Orlando Sentinel's Jeff Weiner, and Daralene Jones, of WFTV. One shop owner told the FBI Zimmerman had called and said "his life was in danger and he needs more guns." So far, though, it's unclear whether he actually bought them.

The evidence also includes an email exchange between Zimmerman and Sanford police chief Bill Lee, in which Zimmerman "praises the officer he had been working with," Weiner tweeted. The Sentinel's coverage notes that Tim Smith, the first officer on the scene of the shooting, told FBI investigators he found Zimmerman with his back wet and covered in grass stains, bleeding from his nose. That suggests Martin was on top during their fight -- a key piece of evidence in Zimmerman's self-defense claim. Smith quoted Zimmerman saying, "I was yelling for help but no one would help me."


(Excerpt) Read more at theatlanticwire.com ...
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« Reply #976 on: July 12, 2012, 07:01:57 PM »

Please pardon if this link has been previously posted.  It leads to a blog about TM at the 7-11...it's really based on what transpired while TM was captured on the store's security camera.  It's interesting...but you have to watch the videos with the sound on to get all of what the blogger is presenting.

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/05/26/interesting-development-trayvon-martin-quid-pro-quo-at-the-7-11/


I read this shortly after it was posted, not going back to read it again, as it was pure speculation.  See page 2 as to where TM's button was....
http://download.gannett.edgesuite.net/wtsp/pdfs/2012/7-12-12-zimmerman.pdf

Thank you.  So, TM was wearing a button.  And in TMs statement by his mother, she states that it's a picture of a deceased relative of TMs.
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« Reply #977 on: July 12, 2012, 07:05:24 PM »

What is the "probable cause" for charging Zim with Murder 2?

I know the state must be holding something back for trial, because I just don't see a probable cause in what the evidence shows to this point.  And, they'd have to be doing an excellent job of keeping the evidence secret, but after all these months, whatever it is has not been leaked.

The witness #9 statement that's so controversial and supposedly states that Zim is a racist, is a moot point for 2 reasons: she an "ex" and the FBI has made their decision and filed their report and they say that Zim was not acting as a racist that night.
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« Reply #978 on: July 12, 2012, 08:26:41 PM »

Cop: Zimmerman Was "Soft," Had "Hero Complex"
Records detail FBI probe of Trayvon Martin killing
July 12 '12

--The lead investigator in the Trayvon Martin shooting case told the FBI that George Zimmerman was not a racist, but rather an “overzealous” and  “soft guy” who had a “little hero complex,” according to documents released today by Florida prosecutors.
 
The records include a variety of FBI reports compiled in the course of a bureau probe examining whether the February shooting of the unarmed teenager was racially motivated. Individuals interviewed by federal agents uniformly described Zimmerman as mild-mannered and harboring no racial or ethnic prejudices.
 
In an April interview with two FBI agents, Christopher Serino, the Sanford Police Department’s lead investigator on the Martin killing, said that he believed Zimmerman’s actions “were not based on Martin’s skin color rather based on his attire, the total circumstances of the encounter and the previous burglary suspects in the community.”
 
Serino also “described Zimmerman as overzealous and as having a ‘little hero complex,’ but not as a racist.” Noting that he had spoken with Zimmerman on numerous occasions and “feels like he knows him fairly well,” Serino said that he believes Zimmerman did not want to be a cop because “cops have a bad reputation and are bullies, but he wants to be a judge.” Serino added that Zimmerman was a “soft guy.”
 
Also included in the released records was a Florida Department of Law Enforcement interview with a male friend of Zimmerman’s who recounted what the shooter told him after being released from police custody the morning after Martin’s killing. The man, whose name was redacted from the FDLE reort, is an Army veteran with whom Zimmerman and his wife lived with in the weeks following the February 26 shooting.
 
The witness told investigators that Zimmerman recalled spotting a “fidgety tall guy” loitering near a residence. After calling cops to report a suspicious person, Zimmerman said he was confronted by Martin, who asked, “Do you have a problem Mother f***er?” Zimmerman said he responded, “No, I don’t have a problem.” Martin then allegedly said “You do now,” and struck Zimmerman in the face. Zimmerman reported seeing “stars,” and “fell back, first onto his butt and then on to his back.”
 
As he struggled on the ground with Martin, the teenager (seen at left) sat atop Zimmerman in the “mounted position” and punched the neighborhood watch captain in the face and head and slammed his head on the pavement. After Martin reportedly realized Zimmerman was carrying a gun, he reached for the firearm, stating, “You’re gonna die now Mother f***er.”
 
Zimmerman, however, slapped Martin’s hand away from the gun and fired a single shot into the teen’s chest. The witness recounted that Zimmerman said Martin’s final words were, “You got it, ok, you got it".  ::snipping2:: 

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/george-zimmerman-fbi-interviews-689452

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« Reply #979 on: July 12, 2012, 10:01:19 PM »



http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/07/12/2892510/more-evidence-released-in-zimmerman.html
Detective in Zimmerman case said he was pressured to file charges 
Records released Thursday show a federal law-enforcement agent accompanied George Zimmerman to his police interrogations, and FBI interviews did not turn up any sign of racial bias in the shooting of Trayvon Martin.
July 12, 2012


BY FRANCES ROBLES
FROBLES@MIAMIHERALD.COM
The lead Sanford Police investigator who sought manslaughter charges against George Zimmerman told the FBI that a sergeant and two others officers tried to pressure him into making an arrest in the controversial case — even though he didn’t think there was enough evidence.

Sanford Police Officer Chris Serino first made headlines when evidence released in the case showed he sought manslaughter charges against Zimmerman even while his chief publicly said there was no probable cause to arrest him. But a document released late Thursday casts doubt on Serino’s prior sworn affidavit seeking criminal charges, and raises questions about the credibility of the star law-enforcement witness in the murder case against Zimmerman for the shooting death of a black teenager, Miami Gardens high school junior Trayvon Martin..

Telling the FBI that he was concerned that people inside the police department were leaking information, Serino cited Sgt. Arthur Barnes, officers Rebecca Villalona and Trekelle Perkins “as all pressuring him to file charges against Zimmerman after the incident,” an FBI report said. “Serino did not believe he had enough evidence at the time to file charges.”

The summary of Serino’s statement does not mention the race of the officers who allegedly pressured him, but sources told The Miami Herald that Barnes and Perkins are black, and Villalona is married to an African-American man. All three, the source said, had been called in by their supervisor and questioned about leaking information in the case.

A request Thursday evening to the Sanford Police Department for comment about Serino’s statement went unanswered.
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