Paige Birgfeld 34yr Colorado missing since 6/28/07(Remains Found)

[Sleeks]

WOW - Hate to say it, but stalker mentality types usually don't just quit that behavior after one time.  It is extremely possible he took some liking to her (out of the norm).  HEY what if he was that writer on that post???  YIKES!!!  That definitely sounded like a stalker!!!

I believe one of the many links in this post shows that.  It was people (clients of hers) who rated the women.

[FoolsGold]

Comments about women working for an escort service are not necessarily the equivalent of stalking. She most likely had no escort-service activities that were different than her normal escort-service activities, although it is always a possibility that something went wrong there. The absusive ex-husband who was travelling to her location is the prime suspect.

I know there is a temptation to look for lurid headlines and lurid details of the various activities she was engaging in but in truth, things probably were not that exciting or that profitable either.

[Sleeks]

Comments about women working for an escort service are not necessarily the equivalent of stalking. She most likely had no escort-service activities that were different than her normal escort-service activities, although it is always a possibility that something went wrong there. The absusive ex-husband who was travelling to her location is the prime suspect.

I know there is a temptation to look for lurid headlines and lurid details of the various activities she was engaging in but in truth, things probably were not that exciting or that profitable either.

All I know was what was written on that one webpage she was listed on.  Her clients would write in and rate her.  One of the 'johns' had a definite obsessive personality.  IMO that is a stalker mentality.   

True, it certainly could be her ex husband (which one??? ) or someone completely random. 

I just thought what that one particular party wrote was definitely someone LE should look into.

[FoolsGold]

Oh, I'd definitely have LE look at anyone the least bit obsessive in the rating system but I would not elevate them to Prime Suspect. She had been an escort for quite some time but her former husband was rather newly arrived in the area.

[FoolsGold]

There seems to be a dispute as to whether she was a "full service" escort or not. Misunderstandings on this issue might have been a source of enhanced anger and frustration if a client expected sexual intercourse but only received a massage while she was topless.

The real problem seems to have been her financial desperation that may well have lead her to take chances with her safety. A single mother with three kids and a six thousand dollar a month mortgage payment?

[MsVada]

 Maine Police Dogs Sent To Help Look For Missing Colorado Woman


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(NEWS CENTER) -- Two dogs from Maine have been sent to Colorado to join in the search for a missing woman from Grand Junction. The woman disappeared June 28th.
     
Her burned out car was discovered July first and now a handgun has been located near the car.

The dogs from the Maine Warden Service are being used to try and find the woman. She is a mother of three who police say also ran a call girl service.


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This came acrossed our local news tonigt.  I hope these dogs are able to locate her.

[bleachedblack]

Gun found near missing woman's car; search dogs aid case

Associated Press - August 6, 2007 12:04 AM ET

GRAND JUNCTION, Colo. (AP) - A gun has been found less than a half-mile from where authorities found the burned out car of a missing Grand Junction woman.

A man reported finding an unloaded nine-millimeter handgun about six inches off the road, near where Paige Birgfeld's car was found July first. It's not known if the gun is connected to the case.

Birgfeld is a 34-year-old mother of 3 who was last seen June 28th. She was reported missing two days later.

Yesterday, search dogs released near where Birgfeld's car was found led investigators to a nearby RV dealership where Lester Ralph Jones works. Jones has been described as a "person of interest" in the case.

Sheriff's officials weren't saying what the dogs might have found.

http://kjct8.com/Global/story.asp?S=6889556

[FoolsGold]

Yesterday, search dogs released near where Birgfeld's car was found led investigators to a nearby RV dealership where Lester Ralph Jones works. Jones has been described as a "person of interest" in the case.

Well, that is not unexpected. After torching the car, the arsonist has to get home some way and that usually means he either has a co-conspirator with a separate vehicle or he has to hoof it to some nearby place.

[MuffyBee]

Search for missing Junction mom narrows

http://**/news/ci_6573519

[Sleeks]

I do so hate to throw these little tidbits out there, but I must.....

I mean I know all of our families love us in spite of ourselves, but I just cannot help but wonder what her father really thinks of his daughter.  More importantly, how she chose to raise his grandchildren. 

Does anyone even know if he has ever commented on that??? I have not read back on previous posts.  But off the top, I do not remember him commenting.  And I just have to say again, she was definitely playing with fire at least.

[Sleeks]

PS to my thought above - this one is not a case of an innocent person going missing.  It is not like Kelsey or the countless others who were living decent lives and some nut came along.  This is a case of a woman who was putting herself out there for any whack job who came along (so to speak). 

IMPO - she could have chosen a thousand other ways to earn a good living for her and her children. 

And don't misunderstand me, I don't think anyone should be violated.  I just think this certainly upped the anty.

[FoolsGold]

she could have chosen a thousand other ways to earn a good living for her and her children. 

Yeah. I hear WalMart was hiring. She could have chosen that.
Would her murder be sufficiently deserving of investigation then?

[Sleeks]

Normally I would not even waste my time responding to this, but I just have to say you someone who only wants to hear what you want to hear.  Try reading all of my posts.

[Sleeks]

she could have chosen a thousand other ways to earn a good living for her and her children. 

Yeah. I hear WalMart was hiring. She could have chosen that.
Would her murder be sufficiently deserving of investigation then?

PS - yeah WalMart would have been a much better choice!!!  And correct me if I'm mistaken, I said nothing about her murder not being deserving of an investigation.  Again - try reading all the posts in their entirety before quoting blurbs.

[MsVada]

she could have chosen a thousand other ways to earn a good living for her and her children. 

Yeah. I hear WalMart was hiring. She could have chosen that.
Would her murder be sufficiently deserving of investigation then?

PS - yeah WalMart would have been a much better choice!!!  And correct me if I'm mistaken, I said nothing about her murder not being deserving of an investigation.  Again - try reading all the posts in their entirety before quoting blurbs.

Perhaps the money is why she chose the profession she was in,  I'm pretty sure she couldn't make ends meet working at Wallyworld they barely pay above minimum wage.  Granted, it would have been a safer job, but......she chose another pathway.

[FoolsGold]

PS - yeah WalMart would have been a much better choice!!! 

I do not see any way in which WalMart would have been a better choice for her. However, once she did choose the 'escort service' then whether her services were 'all the way' or 'halfway' or 'whatever', she was running a risk. Disease risk? Beatings risk? Death risk? Her primary fears seem to have involved one of her former husbands, not her clientelle. Maybe that was a mistake. Maybe not.

[bleachedblack]

Normally I would not even waste my time responding to this, but I just have to say you someone who only wants to hear what you want to hear.  Try reading all of my posts.

You are exactly right Sleeks.
Ridiculous comment. I am almost at a loss for words. No ones demise is warranted, but certain professions increase the odds like it or not.

[pdh3]

We all know that some types of behavior are riskier than others. Does anyone deserve to die for that? No, of course not. But it is true none the less. Prostitutes, drug addicts,runaways....they all put themselves at a higher risk of dying because of how they live their lives. I'm not calling PB a prostitute, but she may have angered someone who thought she might go further because she worked topless. It is risky behavior. I also think living a lifestyle that, by choice, keeps you on the brink of financial disaster is risky behavior too. She may have been a risk taker because she liked living on the edge, and it can become very addictive. I suspect that was the case here. If she was truly unhappy with doing it, she would have scaled back on her expenses, moved to a less expensive home, and adopted a safer lifestyle for the sake of her kids. I certainly don't think it should have cost her such a steep price, but she could have done something else about her financial situation besides what she was doing. There must have been some element of enjoyment for her, even if it was only the money she made. That's very seductive too. But I think there was more to her choice than just needing to support her lifestyle. It had to serve some other purpose.

[Sleeks]

Normally I would not even waste my time responding to this, but I just have to say you someone who only wants to hear what you want to hear.  Try reading all of my posts.

You are exactly right Sleeks.
Ridiculous comment. I am almost at a loss for words. No ones demise is warranted, but certain professions increase the odds like it or not.

That is exactly why I love you BleachedBlack - we are so in sync!!!     That is precisely what I said!!!  And in all honesty, if I had to make a choice as to how to support my family, I would certainly go for the extra part time jobs that did not involve exploiting myself or my family.  Even at the risk of not making as much money!!!  There is no question about it, if you play with fire - sooner or later - you probably will get burned.  When you get right down to it, most of (not all) these missing people are missing because of someone's depraved outlook on life and are almost always sexually violated.  AGAIN (for the masses) I said 'almost always.'  That, in and of itself, is quite a sad statistic.  If the statistics are showing people who weren't involved in a 'particular life style' are going missing, getting raped and then killed - how much worse is the possibility for someone who is probably seeing all the degenerates of society on a regular basis and basically doing 'who knows what' with these same individuals??? 

Again - I don't believe she deserved to die (if that is in fact where we are at).  But she truly was playing Russian Roulette with her life, and the lives of her children.  And again for the masses, and let's cut to the chase here, even though she may have been greatly concerned about one of her former husbands, the fact remains, she was completely open to a vast majority of strangers in the 'field' (if you can call it that) of 'Escort Services.'  So if one is afraid of someone that supposedly they already knew (their ex-husband) how much MORE SHOULD one be afraid of what is really out there in this great big world of the unknown???  And worse yet, she posted about the problems with her ex-husband so any psycho could have read that and saw that as his/her opportunity.  That is NOT TO SAY, I think these former husbands should go unchecked either.  I personally think ANYBODY is mental who says they love somebody and think it is perfectly acceptable for them to go out and sell themselves and throw away any chance of intimacy they have as husband and wives.

[FoolsGold]

Has anyone been able to figure out the number of weeks she successfully negotiated the risky terrain of "Not-all-the-way-Escort" versus how many weeks she faced danger from the approach of the specific men she feared?