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« Reply #260 on: April 29, 2012, 06:27:24 PM »

Sorry, I hit submit too soon.

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http://www.kvoa.com/full-coverage/finding-isabel/#!prettyPhoto/0/

Ok, it is official, I am trying to be as objective as possible, but there is no way to interpret the fact that LE provided a detailed list of media requests for both local and national outlets encouraging the Celis's to give as many interviews as possible.

They have declined, and have provided no explanation.

How is that "never stop looking, we are looking for you" as Sergio Celis stated.

There is not going to be an explanation I am going to understand for that type of behavior when a 6 year old child is missing.

Unless she isn't.
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« Reply #261 on: April 29, 2012, 10:54:48 PM »

http://www.kpho.com/story/17859643/pd-talks-to-3-seen-in-video-in-girls-search

PD talks to 3 seen in video in girl's search

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Police in Tucson said they have been able to make contact with three people who were part of a group they wanted to talk with about the disappearance of 6-year-old Isabel Celis.

"We have seen these people we have identified them, we have statements from these folks, now it is just the process of evaluating that information and determining how valuable it is if at all to us," said Pacheco.

Investigators are also reviewing earlier statements from neighbors.

"On the initial days when those interviews were taken they may not mean much, but perhaps nine days later we can have a better perspective of as to how they can apply to the overall investigation," said Pacheco.
 

   What the...????
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« Reply #262 on: April 30, 2012, 11:23:47 AM »

Isabel Celis: Missing Girl, 6, May be in Mexico
Police say the girl who vanished from her bedroom may have been taken to Mexico.
02:38 | 04/30/2012


Video:
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/isabel-celis-missing-girl-mexico-16242038
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« Reply #263 on: April 30, 2012, 11:28:11 AM »

Isabel Celis: Missing Girl, 6, May be in Mexico
Police say the girl who vanished from her bedroom may have been taken to Mexico.
02:38 | 04/30/2012


Video:
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/world-trade-center-yorks-highest-skyscraper-16241782?tab=9482931&section=1206833

Edit to correct video link.  MB     http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/isabel-celis-missing-girl-mexico-16242038

 

What am I doing wrong?  I keep getting directed to a clip about the trade center - pretty cool but not what I was expecting, lol.
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« Reply #264 on: April 30, 2012, 11:28:48 AM »

Song for Isabel Celis, written and recorded by Tucsonans
Posted: Apr 29, 2012 9:02 PM
Updated: Apr 29, 2012 10:55 PM


http://www.kvoa.com/news/song-for-isabel-celis-written-and-recorded-by-tucsonans/
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« Reply #265 on: April 30, 2012, 11:30:20 AM »

Isabel Celis: Missing Girl, 6, May be in Mexico
Police say the girl who vanished from her bedroom may have been taken to Mexico.
02:38 | 04/30/2012


Video:
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/world-trade-center-yorks-highest-skyscraper-16241782?tab=9482931&section=1206833

Edit to correct video link MB      http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/isabel-celis-missing-girl-mexico-16242038

 

What am I doing wrong?  I keep getting directed to a clip about the trade center - pretty cool but not what I was expecting, lol.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/isabel-celis-missing-girl-mexico-16242038
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« Reply #266 on: April 30, 2012, 11:50:02 AM »

Isabel Celis: Missing Girl, 6, May be in Mexico
Police say the girl who vanished from her bedroom may have been taken to Mexico.
02:38 | 04/30/2012


Video:
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/world-trade-center-yorks-highest-skyscraper-16241782?tab=9482931&section=1206833
Edit to correct video link.  MB   http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/isabel-celis-missing-girl-mexico-16242038

 

Hmmm...what kind of information do they have?  Sonora, Mexico is 5 hours and 18 minutes away per Google map.  
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« Reply #267 on: April 30, 2012, 11:50:52 AM »

Is there any kind of search engine that shows if an individual lived in Mexico?  Anyone know of one?
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« Reply #268 on: April 30, 2012, 12:31:04 PM »

Isabel Celis: Missing Girl, 6, May be in Mexico
Police say the girl who vanished from her bedroom may have been taken to Mexico.
02:38 | 04/30/2012


Video:
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/world-trade-center-yorks-highest-skyscraper-16241782?tab=9482931&section=1206833
Edit to correct video link.  MB  http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/isabel-celis-missing-girl-mexico-16242038
 

Thanks Janet.  In that video they show a clip of the five walking in the area that night as well as the sixth person.  I was never able to see the sixth person until now.

I don't understand why they don't know the i. d. of all five.  They must have asked the ones they interviewed.  
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« Reply #269 on: April 30, 2012, 12:32:57 PM »

Is there any kind of search engine that shows if an individual lived in Mexico?  Anyone know of one?

sorry lab, i have no idea.
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« Reply #270 on: April 30, 2012, 12:58:40 PM »

   Why are the parents not out there pleading to the public for help in finding Isa???  I would be on every media outlet that was available!!!!!!
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« Reply #271 on: April 30, 2012, 01:38:08 PM »

What are the chances that the video group will remember anything truly helpful.  This group had been at a club.  They're walking along after a night of drinking, dancing, socializing.  They're talking about the evening and probably the next day.  Unless something really odd happened, why wouldn't it just be another walk home in the dark late at night? 

Frankly, I'll be surprised if they remember anything of the walk at all. 
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« Reply #272 on: April 30, 2012, 02:05:04 PM »

Isabel Celis: Missing Girl, 6, May be in Mexico
Police say the girl who vanished from her bedroom may have been taken to Mexico.
02:38 | 04/30/2012


Video:
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/world-trade-center-yorks-highest-skyscraper-16241782?tab=9482931&section=1206833
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  http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/isabel-celis-missing-girl-mexico-16242038
 

Thanks Janet.  In that video they show a clip of the five walking in the area that night as well as the sixth person.  I was never able to see the sixth person until now.

I don't understand why they don't know the i. d. of all five.  They must have asked the ones they interviewed.  

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http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/isabel-celis-missing-girl-mexico-16242038

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I "think" I can finally make out that sixth image on the video.  It took the assistance of a pair of much younger eyes than mine.

Could it be that the elusive image is the reason that investigators want to talk to the other five?

The surveillence footage?  I am somewhat disappointed in the clarity.  I had thought it would be the smoking gun.  In other words ... considering there is no way (I don't think) that any of the six persons could be identified by viewing that video clip ...  could it be that the surveillence footage images can only be considered a tool in the investigation.

Technology put a man on the moon ... you would think technology could afford surveillance cameras that could do the intended purpose ... the intended purpose of clearly identifying persons in the act of wrongdoing ... clearly identify potential witnesses.

Janet

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NANCY GRACE
Police Examine Security Camera Video in Isabel Celis Disappearance
Aired April 27, 2012 - 20:00   ET


GRACE: What did you see?

RICK MOORE, MOORE SECURITY SERVICES: What did I see?

GRACE: Yes.

MOORE: You know, we saw -- what we see is a lot of vehicles, Nancy. We did see some people coming through the alleyway. The cameras are trained right onto the alley, which leads right from where we`re standing right now. So we see cars coming in and out, a lot of vehicles, makes, models, color, things of that nature. And I`m sure that`s what the police are using to investigate it.

We also saw some people wandering through the alley. Whether that`s pertinent information, I`m not sure. But it is information that the police took with them, and I`m sure they`re chasing down those leads.

GRACE: Got it. OK, Rick, when you state that you see cars going by, you can see tag numbers, you can see people. What did you see around Isabel Celis`s home that Saturday morning around 8:00 AM?

MOORE: You know, what we saw that morning -- again, it had been light for a little bit. What we basically saw, the first people we saw on the street -- we did see some activity in the alleyway right behind us. But the police have all that evidence.

What we saw right here was a couple of people walking up and down the street, Nancy. And we think that that was maybe the father and the brother. And then the police had us right at that moment cut off the digital recording, and they took that evidence and that`s when they took it away. So we think that that was just the father...

GRACE: So they did not let you see the rest of it?

MOORE: No, ma`am, they did not. We don`t have it anymore.

GRACE: So what you observed, Rick, that morning around 8:00 AM, approximately 8:00 AM...

MOORE: Right.

GRACE: ... is Isabel`s father and his brother, which would be Isabel`s uncle, walking around in front of the Celis home.

MOORE: Nancy, that`s conjecture on my part. I think that`s who it was. The police didn`t want us to speculate about who that was.

GRACE: OK, great. You earlier -- I get it.

MOORE: We didn`t know Isabel`s father at the time (INAUDIBLE)

GRACE: I get it, Rick. I get it that you don`t know who the people are. You earlier mentioned...

MOORE: Yes, ma`am.

GRACE: ... quote, "activity in the alley." What activity in what alley?

MOORE: Well, there`s an alley, Nancy, right behind us. It`s about 25 yards right behind us. That`s, again, about 25 yards from the front door of Isabel`s home. And it runs right behind our showroom, and that`s where our cameras are trained on. So there was activity up and down that alley...

GRACE: What kind of activity?

MOORE: Again, it was just people wandering through alley, vehicles coming up and down through the alley and vehicles walking -- coming out of the alley that`s right here in front of Isabel. Now, what makes and models and tags were, that`s in the police`s hands now, Nancy.

GRACE: Question. Is your video infrared?

MOORE: It does have infrared technology, fortunately, Nancy. So these are outstanding...

GRACE: What does that mean...

MOORE: What that means is that now we have the capability with this new technology, Nancy, that we can see things from a pretty good distance at night. These cameras do work very well at night.

GRACE: So your video...

MOORE: We`ve got the best...

GRACE: ... is going to be able to capture...

MOORE: ... cameras trained...

GRACE: ... surveillance of tag numbers and people, even though it`s dark outside, right?

MOORE: It is pretty amazing technology, Nancy. And that`s kind of the point, is that there`s a lot of new and great stuff that you can use to protect yourself and your community and your family.

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« Reply #273 on: April 30, 2012, 02:14:16 PM »

Janet,

I'm under the impression that the video released is not the video from the surveillance company.  This is from another area.  I don't believe that LE has released the video that was pointed directly at the Celis home.  I am glad that you are able to see the sixth individual in the video. 
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« Reply #275 on: April 30, 2012, 02:52:52 PM »

http://www.facebook.com/FindIsabel



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« Reply #276 on: April 30, 2012, 03:00:28 PM »

Janet,

I'm under the impression that the video released is not the video from the surveillance company.  This is from another area.  I don't believe that LE has released the video that was pointed directly at the Celis home.  I am glad that you are able to see the sixth individual in the video. 

Thanks for that info labubske.

Could it be that I can again cling to the hope that Rick Moore's survellance camera which was aimed at the Celis' home 25 yards away  is the "amazing" technology that he claims and ... it will be the smoking gun that will reveal the truth regarding the happenings that  night/morning encompassing the disappearance of Isabel Celib.

Nevertheless ... my heart sinks regarding this "amazing" technology when I consider that Rick Moore concedes that he is only speculating regarding the identity of that the two person captures walking in front of the Celis home.

Janet

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NANCY GRACE
Police Examine Security Camera Video in Isabel Celis Disappearance
Aired April 27, 2012 - 20:00   ET


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MOORE: Well, there`s an alley, Nancy, right behind us. It`s about 25 yards right behind us. That`s, again, about 25 yards from the front door of Isabel`s home. And it runs right behind our showroom, and that`s where our cameras are trained on.

GRACE: What kind of activity?

MOORE: Again, it was just people wandering through alley, vehicles coming up and down through the alley and vehicles walking -- coming out of the alley that`s right here in front of Isabel. Now, what makes and models and tags were, that`s in the police`s hands now, Nancy.

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GRACE: So what you observed, Rick, that morning around 8:00 AM, approximately 8:00 AM .... is Isabel`s father and his brother, which would be Isabel`s uncle, walking around in front of the Celis home.

MOORE: Nancy, that`s conjecture on my part. I think that`s who it was. The police didn`t want us to speculate about who that was

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MOORE: It is pretty amazing technology, Nancy. And that`s kind of the point, is that there`s a lot of new and great stuff that you can use to protect yourself and your community and your family.

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http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1204/27/ng.01.html

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« Reply #277 on: April 30, 2012, 03:11:07 PM »


Isabel Celis: Surveillance Video Gives Police New Lead

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2012/04/30/isabel-celis-surveillance-video-gives-police-new-lead/
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« Reply #278 on: April 30, 2012, 03:13:36 PM »


Investigators examine 350+ leads in 6-year-old's disappearance
More than 300 at Mass pray for Isabel, family

http://azstarnet.com/news/local/crime/more-than-at-mass-pray-for-isabel-family/article_dcf23039-10a4-58e3-b612-0b12bd57e1ce.html
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« Reply #279 on: April 30, 2012, 03:15:07 PM »

Song for Isabel Celis, written and recorded by Tucsonans

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Needing a woman's voice on the record, they called up vocalist Adilene Muraz, "I'm actually honored to be in it, cause it's awesome."

As it turns out Muraz also knows the Celis family, the connection was known after she was brought on to sing the part.

"Isabels' family is actually from Douglas and her uncles I went to school with," she adds.

 ::snipping2::

http://www.kvoa.com/news/song-for-isabel-celis-written-and-recorded-by-tucsonans/
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