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Author Topic: JO ANN (JODIE) BAIN AND 3 DAUGHTERS MISSING 4/27/2012(2 murdered 2 safe)  (Read 225003 times)
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« Reply #960 on: May 11, 2012, 04:54:36 PM »

Logic does not dictate Mr. Bain "should have manned up" etc.  Logic does not dictate being distraught would have prevented him from speaking to the media and thus satisfying whatever.
Obviously, or should I say logic dictates that the finding of these children was being handled by the professionals.
I am asking you kindly to give it a break.  Can we not celebrate the recovery of these two children?
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Sorry Sister if I sounded petty. I too am rejoicing that the girls are safe and physically unharmed. None of us know what we would do if we were in their shoes. I am sure the FBI advised Gary Bain and The Johnson man on what to say or not say. I commend all of LEO who worked so diligently for the best outcome to an already horrible situation.
Darla, you didn't sound petty.  I too am rejoicing.  These girls have a tough road ahead of them.  Prayers for the family.
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« Reply #961 on: May 11, 2012, 04:56:00 PM »

Logic does not dictate Mr. Bain "should have manned up" etc.  Logic does not dictate being distraught would have prevented him from speaking to the media and thus satisfying whatever.
Obviously, or should I say logic dictates that the finding of these children was being handled by the professionals.
I am asking you kindly to give it a break.  Can we not celebrate the recovery of these two children?
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Hallelujah Sister!  Well said.

I have been afraid all along that he would kill those girls in a final confrontation. 
It seems that was not an option due to the physical positioning of all parties.  IMO, but will wait to learn more details.

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« Reply #962 on: May 11, 2012, 04:58:47 PM »

Logic does not dictate Mr. Bain "should have manned up" etc.  Logic does not dictate being distraught would have prevented him from speaking to the media and thus satisfying whatever.
Obviously, or should I say logic dictates that the finding of these children was being handled by the professionals.
I am asking you kindly to give it a break.  Can we not celebrate the recovery of these two children?
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THANK YOU, Sister.   an angelic monkey

There was a question posed to a member of LE in a video I've watched about this case.  I don't remember now if it was the Hardeman County Sheriff Doolen (maybe in that first press conference) now or someone else.  The question was in effect if Gary Bain was involved in any way in the crimes against his family.  If I come across it again I will post it.

The answer to the question was, HE IS A VICTIM.  And that was the end of it.

Gary Bain did speak to the media to say that he wouldn't be speaking with them until the Hardeman County Sheriff told him it was o.k. to do so, I've posted about that statement with a link earlier.

texasmom, I know you had posted it and I appreciated it so much.  Yes, he is a a victim and needs our thoughts and prayers IMO.  Thank you.
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« Reply #963 on: May 11, 2012, 05:07:39 PM »

Did anyone catch the news conference at 4:00 Eastern time? Don't know why I had 5 on my brain.
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« Reply #964 on: May 11, 2012, 05:18:38 PM »

http://www.chron.com/news/article/Authorities-Kidnapped-girls-didn-t-eat-for-days-3547634.php
Authorities: Kidnapped girls didn't eat for days
ADRIAN SAINZ, Associated Press, HOLBROOK MOHR, Associated Press
May 11, 2012

GUNTOWN, Miss. (AP) Hope was fading that two young sisters abducted from their Tennessee home would be found alive two weeks after they vanished: Their kidnapper had already killed their mother and sister, and he was armed with a pistol as officers closed in.

Adam Mayes could have killed them days ago, could have left them in the woods as he fled for another hideout, could have shot them in desperation as he was surrounded by officers. Yet 12-year-old Alexandria and 8-year-old Kyliyah Bain went home to their father Friday alive, with no apparent injuries other than being tired, scared and itchy from poison ivy. They also told the officers who found them that they had not had food or water for three days, said Mississippi Highway Patrol Master Sgt. Steve Crawford.
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« Reply #965 on: May 11, 2012, 05:26:06 PM »

http://www.chron.com/news/article/Authorities-Kidnapped-girls-didn-t-eat-for-days-3547634.php
Authorities: Kidnapped girls didn't eat for days
ADRIAN SAINZ, Associated Press, HOLBROOK MOHR, Associated Press
May 11, 2012

GUNTOWN, Miss. (AP) Hope was fading that two young sisters abducted from their Tennessee home would be found alive two weeks after they vanished: Their kidnapper had already killed their mother and sister, and he was armed with a pistol as officers closed in.

Adam Mayes could have killed them days ago, could have left them in the woods as he fled for another hideout, could have shot them in desperation as he was surrounded by officers. Yet 12-year-old Alexandria and 8-year-old Kyliyah Bain went home to their father Friday alive, with no apparent injuries other than being tired, scared and itchy from poison ivy. They also told the officers who found them that they had not had food or water for three days, said Mississippi Highway Patrol Master Sgt. Steve Crawford.
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Slide show at link.
Wow, those girls were right there when AM offed himself.  This is a nightmare that no one should have to go through, let alone such you girls. I sure hope they get the right counseling, and for as long as they need it. 
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« Reply #966 on: May 11, 2012, 05:30:25 PM »

Good Morning Monkeys and Guest!

So glad to hear the girls have been released and were not seriously hurt.

The more that comes out the madder I get. Why was this man even allowed near the girls. Much less having overnight visitations at his home with a mentally ill wife and mother from hell. I know that Adam, Teresa and Mary are ultimately responsible for what happened here, but geesh, how many cases have we followed that the parents make such bad choices that they ultimately hand their children over to the wolves? I am not sure that the girls should be put back into the care of Gary Bain. My heart breaks for these precious girls and what they have been through. How do they recover from something this horrific?
Even though the investigations into the allegations of him being naked in the bathroom turned up nothing substantial he would have been missing those appendages that men take so much pride in and most likely his head if this had been my child and he sure as hell would not be around my children again. We all have read how well the CPS does their jobs. Just sickening to me. Wake up parents and take care of the precious gifts God has given you!

Darla

The red flags were all there.  Why?

I did see the Police Conference on HLN.  Apparently ... a tip let investigators to the area around the church.  The team came across Adam and the girls lying down on the ground attempting to hide.  Adam got up and shot himself inches away from the girls.  A memory that will be sketched in their minds for a lifetime.  Anyways ... a transcript/video should be posted soon. 

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« Reply #967 on: May 11, 2012, 05:39:06 PM »

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« Reply #968 on: May 11, 2012, 05:46:13 PM »

O/T - please excuse for one question:

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« Reply #969 on: May 11, 2012, 05:46:50 PM »

http://www.wbbjtv.com/news/local/Records-Show-Mayes-Investigated-for-Child-Abuse-in-2010-151031895.html
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n that report, deputies investigated a family member's claim that she walked into the bathroom and found Adam Mayes and then-7-year-old Kyliyah naked. He was shaving her legs. The family member also claimed Mayes kept a stash of child pornography in his bedroom.
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When I first read this, I took it as only Kyliyah was naked.  Then I read your comment.   I feel it was only Kyliyah that was naked, or I don't think things would have been dropped.  jmo  We also know that CPS drops the ball all the time where our innocent children are concerned....or just look the other way as it causes too much work for them.   I sure would like to read that report for myself.  In either case, those children should never have been allowed around AM for any reason.  again, just my opinion


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I feel the same way.  I cannot comprehend Gary and Jo-Ann's thought process.

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« Reply #970 on: May 11, 2012, 06:03:36 PM »

Did anyone catch the news conference at 4:00 Eastern time? Don't know why I had 5 on my brain.

Darla

Not an HLN transcript/video but ... an accurate overview of the police conference nevertheless.

Janet

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Updated: 1:56 p.m. Friday, May 11, 2012 | Posted: 1:54 p.m. Friday, May 11, 2012
Authorities: Kidnapped girls didn't eat for days


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The area is popular for hunting, and officials said at a news conference Friday that the area is filled with old deer camps.

An officer combing through the area spotted Alexandria Bain face down on the ground Thursday evening about 100 yards behind a church. They also saw the younger girl and Mayes prone on the ground. Officers yelled for Mayes to show his hands, but he got to his knees, pulled a 9mm pistol from his waistband and shot himself in the head, said Aaron T. Ford, special agent in charge of the FBI's Memphis, Tenn., office. Mayes did not say anything before shooting himself, and he did not brandish the gun toward the girls or officers.

The girls only sat up and stayed in place when Mayes shot himself, said Lt. Lee Ellington with the Mississippi Department of Wildlife, Fisheries and Parks.

"They were rather stoic in one sense and relieved," he said. "I heard the older girl tell her sister, 'Now we can go home.'"

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http://www.ktvu.com/news/ap/crime/kidnap-slaying-suspect-kills-himself-2-girls-ok/nN379/

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« Reply #971 on: May 11, 2012, 06:22:05 PM »

If this is true, he didn't dye their hair.  Hope he didn't cut it either.  Just seems to me it will be at least a little easier for them to go back to their daily lives without having to deal with changes to their appearance made by a monster.  They will have more than enough to deal with as it is.

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http://abcnews.go.com/US/kidnap-suspect-adam-mayes-cowards-mother-law/story?id=16327123#.T62LGujwvMJ

Kidnapped Girls Had No Food or Water, Could Not Speak

Missing Tennessee Girls: Suspect on 10 Most Wanted


By COLLEEN CURRY and YUNJI DeNIES
GUNTOWN, Miss. May 11, 2012

A small blonde child peeking over a ridge and spotted by Mississippi state highway troopers led to the rescue of Alexandria and Kyliyah Bain, ages 12 and 8, from kidnapper Adam Mayes on Thursday night, police said in a news conference today.

Moments later, Mayes -- kneeling in the grass next to the children -- shot himself in what his mother-in-law called the "coward's way out."

"We saw something lying down by the wood line that caught our attention. We took another five steps, and I gazed around and saw one of the children. An officer started hollering, 'Get your hands up,'" said Master Sgt. Steve Crawford at a news conference today.

The highway patrol and state fish and wildlife officers were searching the wooded area for a cabin that they were told Mayes, 35, may have been hiding in with the two girls he kidnapped two weeks earlier from their home in Tennessee.

Mayes is also suspected of killing the girls' sister, Adrienne, 14, and mother, JoAnn, 37, in order to kidnap the younger girls, whom he thought were his children, relatives have said. The girls had been living with JoAnn and her husband, Gary Bain, and the family was planning to move to Arizona at the end of the school year.

As police searched for the cabin last night, they caught sight of one girl and then another and, finally Mayes' head popped up.

"All three were lying face down on the ground trying to take cover," Crawford said.
 
The girls slowly raised their hands at the officers' command, but Mayes raised only one hand, the officer said.

"Mayes raised his hand and I could see the gun. I hollered 'gun' three times to let my team know, and then Mayes got on his knees. He never brandished the gun toward us, but at that time he took his life," Crawford said.

The girls, who had been in the forest without food or water for three days, were "eaten up with poison ivy and insect bites," another officer said. He said they were shaken and unable to speak much, but didn't cry.

"When these children get to where they can speak, and calm down, I'm sure we'll find out" more details, a police spokesman said.

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« Reply #972 on: May 11, 2012, 06:44:52 PM »

http://wreg.com/2012/05/11/video-fbi-overnight-update/

Video: FBI Overnight Update
Posted on: 3:01 am, May 11, 2012, by Richard Holden, updated on: 03:02am, May 11, 2012


Raw video of the FBIs information release in Alpine, MS on the recovery of Alexandria and Kyliyah Bain and the death of Adam Mayes.
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #973 on: May 11, 2012, 06:53:33 PM »

Not feeding the children would keep them vulnerable and easy to control. 
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« Reply #974 on: May 11, 2012, 07:02:48 PM »

Police reports associated with Adam Mayes

http://files.wmctv.com/mayespolicereports.pdf

The report about Adam Mayes and Kyliyah was made by a sister of Adam Mayes. 

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On  April 20, 2010, Inv. King spoke with Adam C. Mayes, who denied the allegation and stated that the allegations were of the imagination of his sister, because he kicked her out of the house a couple of months ago and she was very upset with him and his wife.
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« Reply #975 on: May 11, 2012, 07:12:14 PM »

I think I'm going to move this up to the high profile area because there will be a trial that I'm sure we'll want to follow. 
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« Reply #976 on: May 11, 2012, 07:17:09 PM »

Buckle up - we're moving over to high profile.  It will be under Sierra Lamar.
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« Reply #977 on: May 11, 2012, 07:21:25 PM »

Buckle up - we're moving over to high profile.  It will be under Sierra Lamar.

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #978 on: May 11, 2012, 07:50:59 PM »

Police reports associated with Adam Mayes

http://files.wmctv.com/mayespolicereports.pdf

The report about Adam Mayes and Kyliyah was made by a sister of Adam Mayes. 

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On  April 20, 2010, Inv. King spoke with Adam C. Mayes, who denied the allegation and stated that the allegations were of the imagination of his sister, because he kicked her out of the house a couple of months ago and she was very upset with him and his wife.

It would be interesting imo to know what this was all about. 

http://files.wmctv.com/mayespolicereports.pdf

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On March 16, 2009 I, D/S K. Greer and D/S K. Blado was dispatched to XXXXXXXX in reference to Domestic Dispute.  Upon Arrival, Mr. Adam Mays stated that he and his wife, Mrs. Teresa Mays , had a dispute about his niece.  He stated Mrs. Mays got very irate with him, went outside and got into their car.  Mr. Mays stated that Mrs. Mays is a  Pathway patient and that she is taking medication for depression.  After speaking with Mrs. Mays, myself and D/S K. Blado determined that she was not a threat to herself nor Mr. Mays.  Mrs. Mays stated everything was under control and that she was going to go inside and sleep.  She stated that she will make contact with her case worker at Pathways.
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #979 on: May 11, 2012, 07:54:48 PM »

http://www.wth.net/home_pathways.cfm?id=1396

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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