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« Reply #1120 on: June 13, 2013, 10:56:59 AM »

June 13, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/tonypipitone

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 6m
E-81: "Unless something is shown to me that erases all doubt from my mind, my mind is made up."

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 9m
E-81: Saw nothing to believe #GeorgeZimmerman was guilty.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 10m
E-81: "George just trying to protect his neighborhood, called police ... Not sure if boy confronted George or not."

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 11m
E-81: "If a boy is smoking pot, interested in guns, learning to fight ... going down wrong path ... Looking for reason to fight."

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 12m
When time comes, watch and listen as @Markomaralaw tries to get E-81 to say she'll set aside beliefs and follow law and judge instructions.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 14m
E-81 says "Trayvon was learning to be a street fighter," saw pics of him refereeing a fight. Defense says it was #TrayvonMartin. Maybe not?

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 17m
Potential e-81, white female, maybe 40, believes #GeorgeZimmerman was defending himself, is innocent, based on photos of injuries.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 19m
“@TennisLaw: @TonyPipitone Hey is your 17/57 race stat based on first 57 listed that ... ” Not sure what you mean. Email me.
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 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 22m
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« Reply #1121 on: June 13, 2013, 10:58:14 AM »

June 13, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/tonypipitone

Matt Austin ‏@MattLocal6 2m
Juror.. "I feel like I'm going to walk out of here with a bulls eye on my back." #zimmerman #trayvon
 Retweeted by Tony Pipitone

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 1m
E-81: "The more people armed, the better."
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« Reply #1122 on: June 13, 2013, 10:59:20 AM »

June 13, 2013 Tweets Cont.
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bob kealing ‏@bobkealing 1m
Candidate: I strongly believe in the right to defend yourself. The more people armed the better.

 bob kealing ‏@bobkealing 2m
Candidate says she would have problem being sequestered. With mind already made up, it won't matter. Says service puts "bull's eye" on her
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« Reply #1123 on: June 13, 2013, 11:07:30 AM »

Besides posting Tony Pipitone's tweets, I had posted some by Bob Kealing.  Unfortunately, Bob doesn't include the prospective juror ID in his tweets, which causes some confusion imo.  I'm going back to posting Tony's for now and I may try to find another twitter source in a bit. 
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« Reply #1124 on: June 13, 2013, 11:08:06 AM »

Hi Monks 
 The only thing that matters is what happened that night. It does not matter if TM had thuggery on his celly. It doesnt matter that GZ is being accused of molesting his cousin .... but... made 46 calls to Sanford police reporting suspicous black males..

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2013/05/28/george-zimmermans-relevant-past/
By Jonathan Capehart, Published: May 28, 2013 at 3:10
 
When George Zimmerman followed Trayvon Martin the night of Feb. 26, 2012, he ignored an admonition not to do so from the police dispatcher. The request for his arrest, written by the lead detective, noted that Zimmerman’s killing of Trayvon could have been avoided if he’d remained in his vehicle or identified himself “as a concerned citizen.” Just what in Zimmerman’s past might have led him to take these actions and kill an unarmed teenager with a gunshot to the chest is relevant in this case.

What is not relevant is Trayvon’s past. And Judge Debra Nelson made that clear today when she denied several motions by Zimmerman attorney Mark O’Mara to introduce the 17-year-old’s suspension from school, past marijuana use and his participation in fights. There’s a possibility that such evidence could make it to trial, but by releasing all the information last week, O’Mara ensured that everyone, including potential jurors, knows what lurked in his client’s victim’s past. But thanks to Florida’s incredible sunshine laws, we know a few relevant things about Zimmerman.

 

I actually think the past of both is relevant....why shouldn't it be?

I copied some of these so everyone doesn't have to go thru thru the doc dump and find the correct files extraced and what bothered me more than anything is the gun info (trying to obtain one) and the fighting info.... IMO it goes to state of mind.

On another topic flamom, I don't know about you but here it's like our spring/sumer was hovering in the mid-high 80's and BAM one day it's 98+ , like a switch was turned on . I like the gradual warm up not the sudden almost instantaneous "crap it's hot as he77" changes.











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I apologoze if these are out of order- my eyes even with my readers are BAD....maybe that means I need a stronger pair but that's admitting I am old as dirt, anyway IIRC this is Trayvon with  witness 8 (the minor yet not, so sad and distraught over Trayvon's death she couldn't go to memeorial because she was in the hospital yet not, I could go on but the will be a long one no doubt.

  There is more talk of guns, specifically a .380 and a 22 in the 10 page extraction in the Scared Monkeys doc thread in case anyone wants to see, also more chit chat about fighting and remember this isn't on a social media site where the facade sometime that you think you see isn't truly the person's general attitude IRL, these are the back and forth on his phone where you (or I should say I am hard core me, nothing toned down ever but sometimes it's nothing I'd ever want posted on a social media site ), all that said I believe this is the "true" Trayvon.
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« Reply #1125 on: June 13, 2013, 11:08:25 AM »

June 13, 2013 Tweets Cont.
https://twitter.com/tonypipitone

Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 5m
E-81's husband a retired police officer, but "this is my opinion."
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« Reply #1126 on: June 13, 2013, 11:13:08 AM »

Muffybee!!!! Thank you.. I follow your retweets! 
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« Reply #1127 on: June 13, 2013, 11:33:47 AM »

I think Martins tweets show someone that would cop an attitude with some little white looking guy dissing him. DeeDee (a proven liar) could have easily helped escalating (you gon take that?).
Did Martin come back and attack Zimmerman?
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« Reply #1128 on: June 13, 2013, 11:42:10 AM »

June 11, 2013 Tweets
E81


https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  6m 
RT @sheafferlegal: Lawyers' task=find impartial jury; jurors not meeting criteria will be challenged thru either mechanism. @JeffWeinerOS

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  46s 
E 81 says she would not hold the state to a higher burden if proof than what the judge says. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  4m 
E 81 admits she paid closer attention to the news after receiving the jury summons. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  5m 
E 81 told the defense if the state proves that the truth is different than she thinks she will accept it. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  7m 
.@BillSheafferPA? "@JeffWeinerOS: We're hearing this to determine cause vs. peremptory challenge, right? Local legal tweeps weigh in?"

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  18m 
E 81 's husband is a retired police officer. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  30m 
E 81 says she feels safer just knowing people out there have guns and people have a right to defend themselves. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  33m 
Trayvon Martin's father looked at his mother when E 81 said that she thought his mother loved him very much. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  35m 
E 81 says she doesn't want to be on the jury and the state would have to work really hard to change her mind. #Zimmermanon9

Ed Zurita Ed Zurita ‏@Ed_Zurita  36m 
@WFTV @BillSheafferPA I think this juror is out in my opinion. Wow
Retweeted by Kathi Belich, WFTV 
   from Florida, US     

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  37m 
This whole case makes E 81 anxious and would feel she'd have a bull's eye on her back no matter which way it goes. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  42m 
E 81 says she believes Trayvon Martin knew Zimmerman was watching him and says Trayvon could have been the aggressor. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  46m 
E81 says she knows Trayvon Martin's parents loved him but he was going down the right path. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  48m 
E 81 says the photos of a gun on his phone, his fighting shows he was interested in fighting and was looking for a fight. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  53m 
E 81 looked right at George Zimmerman when she said he should go home. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  54m 
E 81 says Trayvon Martin was not beaten up and he was learning to be a street fighter. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  55m 
E 81 says George Zimmerman is innocent and should go home. She says he had a bloody nose and cut head. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  58m 
E 81 is a white woman who appears to be in her 30's. #Zimmermanon9
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« Reply #1129 on: June 13, 2013, 11:44:37 AM »

Sorry...the Tweets from Kathi Belich above are for June 13--not June 11
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« Reply #1130 on: June 13, 2013, 11:53:26 AM »

June 13, 2013 Tweets cont
E81


https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
Now in recess til one. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
Lawyers are still up at the bench presumably trying to decide whether she should be dismissed over her opinion. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  12m 
Trayvon Martin's parents just left court as the lawyers talk to the judge at the bench. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  13m 
E 81 says she is worried about her privacy. If she had her 15 minutes of fame she would rather it be about the lottery.
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« Reply #1131 on: June 13, 2013, 12:11:27 PM »

June 13, 2013 Tweets Cont.
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 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 23m
E-81 being escorted from courtroom, but judge has not said to public whether she remains on panel.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 27m
Looks like @Markomaralaw forcefully arguing something to Judge Nelson in bench conference re: E-81.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 30m
#TrayvonMartin mother and attorneys leave court while judge decides fate of e-81, who remains in courtroom for now.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 36m
Tweeting lawyers freaking over @Markomaralaw questioning: can't he pull her back from the brink and force state to use a strike on her?

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 1h
“@RichardHornsby: who is crazy looking guy w/white hair that never moves his head seated in the front row of the gallery?” Sheriff deputy.
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« Reply #1132 on: June 13, 2013, 12:21:19 PM »

Thank you Muffybee and Graceland for posting the tweets.  I'm unable to watch the jury selection on tv and greatly appreciate your posts.   an angelic monkey
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« Reply #1133 on: June 13, 2013, 12:26:37 PM »

Thank you Muffybee and Graceland for posting the tweets.  I'm unable to watch the jury selection on tv and greatly appreciate your posts.   an angelic monkey

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« Reply #1134 on: June 13, 2013, 12:35:20 PM »

Thank you Muffybee and Graceland for posting the tweets.  I'm unable to watch the jury selection on tv and greatly appreciate your posts.   an angelic monkey

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« Reply #1135 on: June 13, 2013, 12:46:16 PM »

does anybody know if manslaughter is on the table?

And the state overcharged and I hope Benjamin Crump and Angela Corey both loose their jobs.



There might be a more recent comment/opinion about "manslaughter," however, I came across the following article mentioning it:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2013/06/09/whats-justice-in-george-zimmerman-case-opinionline/2406021/

6:25 p.m. EDT June 9, 2013
What's justice in George Zimmerman case? Opinionline

 
Mark Pinsky, The Huffington Post: "George Zimmerman is now charged with second-degree murder. ... Embedded in the second-degree charge are what are called 'lesser included offenses,' including ... involuntary manslaughter. ... The Florida state statute describing involuntary manslaughter reads as though it were written to describe the uncontradicted facts of the Martin shooting. That is, that the armed Zimmerman, against the advice of a police dispatcher, continued to stalk Martin until an altercation ensued that resulted in Martin's death. ... Given the defense's theory of the case — that Zimmerman did not intend to kill Martin ... a verdict of involuntary manslaughter might provide a conflicted jury an opportunity to arrive at a compromise."
 
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« Reply #1136 on: June 13, 2013, 12:48:24 PM »

does anybody know if manslaughter is on the table?

And the state overcharged and I hope Benjamin Crump and Angela Corey both loose their jobs.


I agree with you...  Monkey Devil!
manslaughter seems to be more appropriate for this case, Yes, Even though I think GZ should be found innocent of all charges.
and thanks for your comment. Civility is key



Your Welcome and I agree with keeping things civil.



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« Reply #1137 on: June 13, 2013, 12:48:34 PM »

http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/06/13/3449262/potential-juror-george-zimmerman.html#.Ubn1c6r6TAo.twitter
Potential juror: George Zimmerman defended himself in Trayvon Martin shooting
June 13, 2013


BY DAVID OVALLE
DOVALLE@MIAMIHERALD.COM
SANFORD -- With Trayvon Martin’s parents watching uncomfortably from the courtroom gallery, a potential juror on Thursday suggested the slain teen was a pot smoker and aspiring “street fighter” who was “going down the wrong path.”

The woman interviewed on Thursday, on the fourth day of jury selection in the second-degree murder case, said she believed George Zimmerman was a law-abiding gun owner.

“I do believe George was protecting himself,” she said, adding that prosecutors would “have to work very hard” to convince her otherwise if she is selected for the jury.

Her forceful words in defense of Zimmerman were an anomaly. Most of the potential jurors questioned so far have said they haven’t made up their minds on the facts of the case. At least 20 have been selected to move on to a further round of questioning.

It was unclear Thursday if the woman, who insisted she would have a “bulls eye” on her back if she served on the jury, would be dismissed before a future round of questioning. Tracy Martin and Sybrina Fulton, Trayvon’s parents, left the courtroom immediately after the woman’s questioning was finished.
 
Zimmerman’s trial started Monday with lawyers questioning potential jurors about the effects of the massive publicity associated with the case. So far, lawyers in the Zimmerman case have selected 20 possible jurors to move onto a new round of questioning; they are seeking a pool of 30. From those, they will try to pick a panel of six jurors and four alternates.

On Thursday, lawyers also interviewed an older retiree with a love of golf who paid little attention to the case but said race issues in Sanford were “overblown.”

They also interviewed a recent high school graduate who recalled some fellow students claiming to be friends with Trayvon. The teen went to school at Dr. Michael M. Krop High in North Miami-Dade, but was visiting Sanford with his father.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/06/13/3449262/potential-juror-george-zimmerman.html#.Ubn1c6r6TAo.twitter#storylink=cpy
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« Reply #1138 on: June 13, 2013, 12:53:24 PM »

does anybody know if manslaughter is on the table?

And the state overcharged and I hope Benjamin Crump and Angela Corey both loose their jobs.


I agree with you...  Monkey Devil!
manslaughter seems to be more appropriate for this case, Yes, Even though I think GZ should be found innocent of all charges.
and thanks for your comment. Civility is key



Your Welcome and I agree with keeping things civil.





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« Reply #1139 on: June 13, 2013, 12:53:55 PM »

does anybody know if manslaughter is on the table?

And the state overcharged and I hope Benjamin Crump and Angela Corey both loose their jobs.


I agree with you...  Monkey Devil!
manslaughter seems to be more appropriate for this case, Yes, Even though I think GZ should be found innocent of all charges.
and thanks for your comment. Civility is key



Your Welcome and I agree with keeping things civil.





My answers in bold (about GZ)


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