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« Reply #40 on: July 16, 2012, 01:57:21 PM »

Audio at link

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/sns-os-george-zimmerman-jail-phone-calls-20120716,0,6274019.story

"Witness 9" tells prosecutors Zimmerman is prejudiced against blacks
12:16 p.m. CDT, July 16, 2012

A young woman told Florida authorities that suspect George Zimmerman had demonstrated racist behavior before his arrest in the Trayvon Martin murder investigation, according to new evidence released today by Special Prosecutor Angela Corey.

Zimmerman's family, said the woman, identified only as "witness 9," "don't like black people if they don't act like white people. They like black people if they act white."

Corey released witness 9's statement plus 120 recorded phone calls made by Zimmerman when he was in the Seminole County Jail.

In a statement released earlier, witness 9 told Sanford, Fla., police that Zimmerman does not like blacks. In the audio-recorded interview released today, she reiterated that, without providing specifics.

Had she seen George Zimmerman disparage blacks or act as if he hated blacks, she was asked.

No, she said.

Witness 9 also claimed Zimmerman sexually molested her for a decade, starting when both were children, according to prosecution records released today.

The woman said the alleged abuse started when she was six years old and Zimmerman was eight, and ended when she was 16.
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« Reply #41 on: July 16, 2012, 02:01:42 PM »

Oh, good grief...what makes this witness creditable?
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« Reply #42 on: July 16, 2012, 02:15:54 PM »

Witness claims George Zimmerman molested her as a child


Published July 16, 2012

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A potential witness in the case against George Zimmerman has testified that the neighborhood watch volunteer charged with killing Florida teen Trayvon Martin molested her as a child.

The unidentified woman told the Duval County State Attorney’s office that Zimmerman began abusing her when she was 6 and continued until she was 16, MyFoxOrlando.com reports. The woman also told police that Zimmerman and his family do not like African-Americans.

Phone calls Zimmerman made from the Seminole County Jail were also released.  A total of 140 calls made in April of this year were included in the evidence made public. ::snipping2::

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/07/16/witness-claims-george-zimmerman-molested-her-as-child/?test=latestnews#ixzz20oIjtuXG


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« Reply #43 on: July 16, 2012, 02:19:52 PM »

Two-page article

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/07/16/2897557/zimmerman-defense-attorney-will.html

“Witness 9” accused Zimmerman of sexually molesting her
Posted on Monday, 07.16.12

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She never went to the police, she said, because her mother told her that cases like hers become “he said/she said,” and get dropped. Zimmerman’s parents “pushed it under the rug and pretended it never happened,” she said.

However, she noted that neither Zimmerman’s parents nor her own ever heard the details of what she says happened. “I told them I didn’t want to talk about it,” she said.

Witness 9 told authorities that some of her memories on it were fuzzy, but she distinctly recalls telling some childhood friends. She blocked out even happy memories, she said.

Why then, investigators asked, was she coming forward now?

“It’s the first time in my life I’m not afraid of him,” she said. “I know nothing can get to me. He can’t get to me. I won’t go to Target and see him there anymore.”

This article will be updated as more information becomes available.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/07/16/2897557/zimmerman-defense-attorney-will.html#storylink=cpy
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« Reply #44 on: July 16, 2012, 03:04:45 PM »

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/George-Zimmerman-jail-calls-released/-/1637132/15528110/-/d970om/-/index.html

Witness 9: George Zimmerman molested meJuly 16, 2012
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« Reply #45 on: July 16, 2012, 03:11:36 PM »

URLs of Witness #9 statements: Parts 1 and 2

http://www.axiomamnesia.com/Audio/Trayvon-Zimmerman-Witness-Interviews/Trayvon_Martin_George_Zimmerman_Audio_ZIMMERMAN_INT_W9_1.mp3


http://www.axiomamnesia.com/Audio/Trayvon-Zimmerman-Witness-Interviews/Trayvon_Martin_George_Zimmerman_Audio_ZIMMERMAN_INT2_WIT9_R2.mp3
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« Reply #46 on: July 16, 2012, 03:20:42 PM »

calls #1 - #10 are up now.....with call summaries being added as available. ..they're putting them all up in batches of 10.


http://trayvon.axiomamnesia.com/audio/george-zimmerman-jailhouse-calls/george-zimmerman-jailhouse-calls-1-10-released-7162012-audio/

The following is a list of full audio of jailhouse calls, released on 7/16/2012 and later, made by George Zimmerman while in jail at the Seminole County Detention Center in Florida.
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« Reply #47 on: July 16, 2012, 03:35:17 PM »


Actually, I shouldn't have included the second link - it's a small portion of the beginning of the first link...redundant.
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« Reply #48 on: July 16, 2012, 03:52:51 PM »

The woman also told state investigators that she anonymously called Sanford police after Martin's death.

"I was afraid that he may have done something because the kid was black," the woman says on the recordings. She said she had no direct knowledge of the shooting death, but wanted police to know Zimmerman had made negative comments about blacks when they were growing up. ::snipping2::

The woman said she was not the only victim. "It's not just me that he would do these things to," she told investigators. But the other alleged victim would never come forward, Witness 9 said, declining to give investigators her name: "She said she would deny it either way."
Edit to add date for article.  MB July 16, 2012
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/zimmerman-witness-sexual-molestation-160900334.html
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« Reply #49 on: July 16, 2012, 05:36:56 PM »

http://gzlegalcase.com/

Zimmerman Defense Responds to Witness #9 Statements
on 16 July 2012.

Today the State released Witness #9's Statements along with Mr. Zimmerman's phone calls from jail in response to the Court's July 13 order.
 
In her statements, Witness #9, who is George Zimmerman's cousin, alleges that Mr. Zimmerman inappropriately touched her beginning when she was 6 and Mr. Zimmerman was almost 8, and that it continued on occasion until she was 16 and Mr. Zimmerman was 17.
 
The defense moved to block the public release of Witness #9's statement in a motion filed on June 18, 2012 contending "The content of this statement is not relevant to the issues of this case, and it would not be admissible in the State's case in chief." The motion further contends that this irrelevant statement should be withheld from public dissemination because of the substantial risk that public disclosure will lead to widespread hostile publicity which would substantially impair the Defendant's fair trial rights, and would pose a serious threat to the administration of justice.
 
That request was denied on July 13, 2012 by Judge Lester. Because there is a Motion for Disqualification pending, this morning, we asked the prosecution not to release Witness #9's statement until there was a ruling on the Motion for Disqualification. This is an appropriate request as, should the motion for disqualification be granted, reconsideration of recent rulings by the judge is appropriate. However, the prosecution elected to make the public disclosure anyway.
 
Now that this statement is part of the public record, the defense will vigorously defend Mr. Zimmerman against the allegations. In the next several weeks, there will be reciprocal discovery filed regarding Witness #9's statement.
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« Reply #50 on: July 16, 2012, 09:47:10 PM »

ive been following,wow, you just never know what will come out of left field

George Zimmerman's cousin accuses him of sexual molestation
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George Zimmerman, the man charged with the murder of a black teenager in Florida, has now also been accused of sexually molesting his cousin. In other developments relating to the case, supporters of Zimmerman aim to postpone plans for a memorial for the slain teenager.

 By Barbara Liston, Reuters / July 16, 2012
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2012/0716/George-Zimmerman-s-cousin-accuses-him-of-sexual-molestation
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« Reply #51 on: July 16, 2012, 10:05:22 PM »

 
Oh, good grief...what makes this witness creditable?
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« Reply #52 on: July 16, 2012, 10:07:23 PM »

The woman also told state investigators that she anonymously called Sanford police after Martin's death.

"I was afraid that he may have done something because the kid was black," the woman says on the recordings. She said she had no direct knowledge of the shooting death, but wanted police to know Zimmerman had made negative comments about blacks when they were growing up. ::snipping2::

The woman said she was not the only victim. "It's not just me that he would do these things to," she told investigators. But the other alleged victim would never come forward, Witness 9 said, declining to give investigators her name: "She said she would deny it either way."
Edit to add date for article.  MB July 16, 2012
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/zimmerman-witness-sexual-molestation-160900334.html
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« Reply #53 on: July 16, 2012, 10:23:48 PM »

Monday, July 16, 2012 - 13:02:55
Human rightsTrayvon Martin's parents to appear in Little Rock

A news release says the National Association of Black Law Enforcement Executives, meeting in Little Rock next week, will hear from the parents of Trayvon Martin at a civil rights breakfast at 8 a.m. Tuesday. Martin is the 17-year-old black youth shot in Sanford, Fla., in a case that has drawn worldwide attention for the police's initial decision not to charge the shooter, George Zimmerman, though Martin was unarmed.
 
Also speaking will be former Little Rock Mayor Lottie Shackelford. Awards also are planned, including to the Little Rock Nine; to Keith Jackson for his P.A.R.K. after-school program; to William "Sonny" Walker, a former Arkansan, for his civil rights work, and to former  Surgeon General Joycelyn Elders.

http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/human-rights/
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« Reply #54 on: July 16, 2012, 10:55:12 PM »

Does anyone know how to access transcripts for JVM - tonight's transcript in particular?

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« Reply #55 on: July 16, 2012, 11:06:50 PM »

Witness#9 sounds like she is seeking revenge of some sort on GZ.  Not only is she contradictory to most of the other character witnesses, she sounds like she has credibility problems in not wanting to testify.  I would think that all the other favorable character witnesses would create a shadow of a doubt over the negative ones.
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« Reply #56 on: July 16, 2012, 11:24:14 PM »

Two-page article

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/07/16/2897557/zimmerman-defense-attorney-will.html

“Witness 9” accused Zimmerman of sexually molesting her
Posted on Monday, 07.16.12

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Defense attorney Mark O’Mara called the accusation a “side tornado that comes with a hurricane” -- you have to wait for it to blow over.

“It’s completely irrelevant, and now we will have to waste 50 hours on something that will never make it to a courtroom,” he told The Miami Herald Monday night. “He denies it. He is saying that it never happened.”

O’Mara said he’s now put in the position of having to discredit the woman, by pointing out things like that she tried to sell her story to People magazine.

In her statement, witness 9 said she kept the allegations secret for years because everyone in her family adores Zimmerman.

“He made everyone love him, made everyone laugh and be happy around him,” she said, adding that to her father, Zimmerman was like the son he never had.
 ::snipping2::

Crump and his team have known about the woman from the early stages of the case because she approached them after calling the police and prosecutors. Orlando attorney Natalie Jackson, who also represents Trayvon’s family, spoke to witness 9, but declined to discuss what she said.

Reached earlier this month by The Miami Herald, “witness 9” declined to be interviewed.

Erin Russell, a Chicago lawyer who has been blogging about the case regularly, said the woman’s testimony is so damaging to Zimmerman that prosecutors are probably hoping that Zimmerman is so worried about her that it will keep him from testifying at his trial. In a self-defense case, his testimony would be vital — and witness 9 could then be called to challenge his testimony.

“The minute he says he is a person of good character, that opens the door to, ‘Really?’” Russell said. “They’re trying to pressure him off the stand, and to take a deal.”

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/07/16/2897557/zimmerman-defense-attorney-will.html#storylink=cpy
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« Reply #57 on: July 16, 2012, 11:28:10 PM »

https://twitter.com/marknejame


Mark NeJame‏@MarkNeJame
@iminshock @jasongoodman31 Real clear O didn't know of $. Judge acknowledged too. O brought it to judges attn as soon as he knew. Ethical.


Mark NeJame‏@MarkNeJame
@jasongoodman31 @seanlamontlove O is very smart. Only board certified atty in Fl. In both criminal & family. I worked w him & against.


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@jasongoodman31 @seanlamontlove Actually 6 in Florida unless capital.Jury selection likely eliminate public opinion factor. eg Casey Anthony

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« Reply #58 on: July 16, 2012, 11:35:37 PM »

Does anyone know how to access transcripts for JVM - tonight's transcript in particular?



Here it is, Puzzler.  Just wait for it to be posted--probably later this evening.  If you need help, just let me know.  Smile

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ijvm.html
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« Reply #59 on: July 16, 2012, 11:35:48 PM »

Two-page article

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/07/16/2897557/zimmerman-defense-attorney-will.html

“Witness 9” accused Zimmerman of sexually molesting her
Posted on Monday, 07.16.12

 ::snipping2::
Defense attorney Mark O’Mara called the accusation a “side tornado that comes with a hurricane” -- you have to wait for it to blow over.

“It’s completely irrelevant, and now we will have to waste 50 hours on something that will never make it to a courtroom,” he told The Miami Herald Monday night. “He denies it. He is saying that it never happened.”

O’Mara said he’s now put in the position of having to discredit the woman, by pointing out things like that she tried to sell her story to People magazine.

In her statement, witness 9 said she kept the allegations secret for years because everyone in her family adores Zimmerman.

“He made everyone love him, made everyone laugh and be happy around him,” she said, adding that to her father, Zimmerman was like the son he never had.
 ::snipping2::

Crump and his team have known about the woman from the early stages of the case because she approached them after calling the police and prosecutors. Orlando attorney Natalie Jackson, who also represents Trayvon’s family, spoke to witness 9, but declined to discuss what she said.

Reached earlier this month by The Miami Herald, “witness 9” declined to be interviewed.

Erin Russell, a Chicago lawyer who has been blogging about the case regularly, said the woman’s testimony is so damaging to Zimmerman that prosecutors are probably hoping that Zimmerman is so worried about her that it will keep him from testifying at his trial. In a self-defense case, his testimony would be vital — and witness 9 could then be called to challenge his testimony.

“The minute he says he is a person of good character, that opens the door to, ‘Really?’” Russell said. “They’re trying to pressure him off the stand, and to take a deal.”

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/07/16/2897557/zimmerman-defense-attorney-will.html#storylink=cpy


grace - TY

This doesn't sound good at all.  I heard on JVM tonight from Natalie Jackson (attorney for TM's family) that they've known W9 for some time.  Also, a tweet by Daralene Jones (wftv reporter) on May 17 in which she says she believes she got an anonymous call from W9 - voice sounds familiar and story sounds familiar. 

So, maybe that's what has seemed off to this whole thing today - W9 shopping her story?
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