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« Reply #780 on: May 28, 2013, 12:48:28 PM »

The moment George Zimmerman decided Trayvon must be guilty of something, the moment George Zimmerman followed Trayvon in his truck, the moment Zimmerman left his truck to continue to follow Trayvon on foot, George Zimmerman started it. 

He became a threat to Trayvon.  George was armed with a weapon and he was pi$$ed that they 'always get away'. 

George Zimmerman started it and then he murdered Trayvon, who may only have been defending himself.   

Any neighborhood watchperson knows (and if they don't then they have not been trained properly) you're supposed to phone the police when there is suspicious activity.  You're NOT supposed to follow the person in the dark of the night by vehicle and especially on foot.  It appears George Zimmerman was on a personal vendetta that night and he was not about to let Trayvon 'get away'. 
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« Reply #781 on: May 28, 2013, 12:56:17 PM »

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-trial-stay-hearing-20130528,0,1951849.story

George Zimmerman judge: No trial delay in Trayvon Martin shooting
12:04 p.m. EDT, May 28, 2013

SANFORD – The George Zimmerman second-degree murder case will proceed to trial June 10, after his judge today denied his defense team's latest request for a delay.

The ruling was among several important decisions by Circuit Judge Debra S. Nelson during a two-hour hearing this morning at the Seminole County Courthouse.

The judge ruled for the state on several key issues: The defense may not bring up Trayvon Martin's past marijuana use at trial, or his school suspensions or alleged participation in fights, without clearing several legal hurdles and another ruling granting permission.
 
One of the most compelling issues the judge must rule on is whether to allow the testimony of a state audio expert, Alan Reich, who says that in the background of a 911 call, he heard Trayvon in distress and in a trembling voice say "I'm begging you," just before the fatal shot.

The judge said today she will listen to argument about whether Reich's work, and the work of other audio experts, meets the necessary scientific standard for admissibility during a hearing June 6.

In a four-page report to prosecutors, Reich wrote that's what he heard after he cleaned up the now-famous 911 call by a neighbor that has screams in the background. He also wrote that Zimmerman was talking like an evangelist or carnival barker and said early in the recording, "These shall be."

Analysts at the FBI tried to identify the voice of the person screaming but gave up, saying the recording was too short and the quality too poor.

Zimmerman defense attorney Mark O'Mara has hired an expert, he said earlier, who will testify that the screams were from Zimmerman.

The attorneys will be in court again on Friday, the judge indicated, to argue about whether the jury should be kept anonymous.

The judge also still must address an allegation from Zimmerman's defense that the state improperly withheld data gathered from Trayvon's phone.

The defense briefly called a witness to testify on that topic today: Wesley White, a former assistant state attorney who worked for the special prosecutor in the case, Angela Corey, before resigning disgruntled last year, according to a Jacksonville.com report.

White said that he contacted O'Mara after finding out prosecutors hadn't turned over data from the phone.
 
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« Reply #782 on: May 28, 2013, 03:53:27 PM »

I read that wrong, The defense's evidence cannot be presented in the opening statements BUT if the state brings up GZ's history etc Then the defense can bring up all of their evidence.

And the state most certainly will bring up GZ's history.



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« Reply #783 on: May 28, 2013, 03:54:29 PM »

The moment George Zimmerman decided Trayvon must be guilty of something, the moment George Zimmerman followed Trayvon in his truck, the moment Zimmerman left his truck to continue to follow Trayvon on foot, George Zimmerman started it. 

He became a threat to Trayvon.  George was armed with a weapon and he was pi$$ed that they 'always get away'. 

George Zimmerman started it and then he murdered Trayvon, who may only have been defending himself.   

Any neighborhood watchperson knows (and if they don't then they have not been trained properly) you're supposed to phone the police when there is suspicious activity.  You're NOT supposed to follow the person in the dark of the night by vehicle and especially on foot.  It appears George Zimmerman was on a personal vendetta that night and he was not about to let Trayvon 'get away'. 

The state has to prove that.

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« Reply #784 on: May 28, 2013, 06:52:55 PM »

Video at the link

http://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/2013/05/28/2367163/

(May 28, 2013)
George Zimmerman's brother speaks outside of courthouse

Robert Zimmerman, George Zimmerman's brother, speaks to the press outside the courtroom, calling for the withdrawl of murder in the 2nd degree
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« Reply #785 on: May 28, 2013, 07:00:29 PM »

The moment George Zimmerman decided Trayvon must be guilty of something, the moment George Zimmerman followed Trayvon in his truck, the moment Zimmerman left his truck to continue to follow Trayvon on foot, George Zimmerman started it. 

He became a threat to Trayvon.  George was armed with a weapon and he was pi$$ed that they 'always get away'. 

George Zimmerman started it and then he murdered Trayvon, who may only have been defending himself.   

Any neighborhood watchperson knows (and if they don't then they have not been trained properly) you're supposed to phone the police when there is suspicious activity.  You're NOT supposed to follow the person in the dark of the night by vehicle and especially on foot.  It appears George Zimmerman was on a personal vendetta that night and he was not about to let Trayvon 'get away'. 

if George Zimmerman had never gotten out of his truck..........this would have never happened. It seems doubtful he set out to kill someone. But his impulsive decision to get out and follow set events into motion and cost Trayvon his life..I do not even follow the vendetta theory. I think GZ was an amatuer who was over eager and he was armed. Let's see what THIS jury does......
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« Reply #786 on: May 28, 2013, 07:00:35 PM »

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/05/28/whats-next-george-zimmerman

What's next for George Zimmerman?
updated 6:06 PM EDT, Tue May 28, 2013

Did prosecutors fail to turn over evidence of photos and contents of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin's text messages to the defense? That's the claim from George Zimmerman's defense attorneys.
 

If the defense's claim about the prosecution's failure to turn over evidence proves to be true, Judge Debra Nelson could rule that the prosecution violated Florida's rules of discovery and impose sanctions.

A hearing will be scheduled either June 6 or 7 to determine the matter.

Also at that hearing in early June, attorneys will argue over the admissibility of what the defense calls new technology used to perform voice analysis on the 911 calls made during the shooting.

There is also a hearing scheduled for Friday to decide whether the press can photograph the jurors during the trial.
 
The judge said she would rule on whether Martin's THC (marijuana's active ingredient) blood levels will be admissible after she hears testimony from the defense's expert witness.

The judge also said she would take up the issue of sequestering the jury at a later date.
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« Reply #787 on: May 28, 2013, 08:38:20 PM »

The moment George Zimmerman decided Trayvon must be guilty of something, the moment George Zimmerman followed Trayvon in his truck, the moment Zimmerman left his truck to continue to follow Trayvon on foot, George Zimmerman started it. 

He became a threat to Trayvon.  George was armed with a weapon and he was pi$$ed that they 'always get away'. 

George Zimmerman started it and then he murdered Trayvon, who may only have been defending himself.   

Any neighborhood watchperson knows (and if they don't then they have not been trained properly) you're supposed to phone the police when there is suspicious activity.  You're NOT supposed to follow the person in the dark of the night by vehicle and especially on foot.  It appears George Zimmerman was on a personal vendetta that night and he was not about to let Trayvon 'get away'. 

if George Zimmerman had never gotten out of his truck..........this would have never happened. It seems doubtful he set out to kill someone. But his impulsive decision to get out and follow set events into motion and cost Trayvon his life..I do not even follow the vendetta theory. I think GZ was an amatuer who was over eager and he was armed. Let's see what THIS jury does......


George was on a vendetta to make sure this guilty looking person did not get away like all the 'a**holes' got away before him.

I agree he did not leave his truck intent on killing anyone but his actions caused the death of Trayvon Martin.
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« Reply #788 on: May 28, 2013, 08:43:58 PM »

http://www.businessinsider.com/zimmerman-called-trayvon-martin-was-one-of-these-assholes-in-911-call-2012-6

 
"It sounds like he's running to get away from you," Sanford Police lead investigator Chris Serino told Zimmerman.
 
"You basically jumped out of the car to see where he was going? That's not fear. That's going to be a problem."
 
Recordings from Zimmerman's post-shooting interviews with police were recently made available on his legal defense site.
 
In the 911 call, Zimmerman can be heard saying "These assholes always get away."

 


 
While police were initially sympathetic to Zimmerman's plight during the Feb. 29 interview, officers became increasingly hostile as Zimmerman failed to answer questions in precise detail.
 
He answered at least half of investigators' questions by saying he didn't know or couldn't remember how things happened the night he shot Martin.
 
Throughout the course of the hours-long interview, police repeatedly asked why Zimmerman left his vehicle in the first place, why he pursued Martin, and if he went looking for the teenager or whether Martin found him while Zimmerman was walking back to his vehicle.
 
"It sounds like you're looking for him," Serino said. "You wanted to catch him. You wanted to catch the bad guy."
 
In the emergency call, Zimmerman said Martin "looks like he's up to no good or he's on drugs or something. Something's wrong with him."
 
"What's that supposed to mean?" Serino asked Zimmerman.
 
"I don't know," Zimmerman quietly replied.

 


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« Reply #789 on: May 29, 2013, 01:15:11 AM »

The moment George Zimmerman decided Trayvon must be guilty of something, the moment George Zimmerman followed Trayvon in his truck, the moment Zimmerman left his truck to continue to follow Trayvon on foot, George Zimmerman started it. 

He became a threat to Trayvon.  George was armed with a weapon and he was pi$$ed that they 'always get away'. 

George Zimmerman started it and then he murdered Trayvon, who may only have been defending himself.   

Any neighborhood watchperson knows (and if they don't then they have not been trained properly) you're supposed to phone the police when there is suspicious activity.  You're NOT supposed to follow the person in the dark of the night by vehicle and especially on foot.  It appears George Zimmerman was on a personal vendetta that night and he was not about to let Trayvon 'get away'. 

if George Zimmerman had never gotten out of his truck..........this would have never happened. It seems doubtful he set out to kill someone. But his impulsive decision to get out and follow set events into motion and cost Trayvon his life..I do not even follow the vendetta theory. I think GZ was an amatuer who was over eager and he was armed. Let's see what THIS jury does......


George was on a vendetta to make sure this guilty looking person did not get away like all the 'a**holes' got away before him.

I agree he did not leave his truck intent on killing anyone but his actions caused the death of Trayvon Martin.

I also don't think he woke up that day and said" I think I'll kill someone today".
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« Reply #790 on: May 29, 2013, 01:16:46 AM »

According to MOM they found a video on TM's cell phone of his friends beating up a homeless man and he's the one filming it.

They also found on TM's cell phone a naked photo of an underage girl .

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« Reply #791 on: May 29, 2013, 01:00:20 PM »

http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/05/28/trayvon-martin-case-judge-says-no-to-defense-requests-for-now/

Trayvon Martin case: Judge says no to defense requests, for now
9:00 PM on 05/28/2013

Trayvon Martin family attorney Benjamin Crump praised a Florida judge Tuesday for ruling that George Zimmerman’s defense team cannot mention Martin’s suspension from school, prior marijuana use, text messages or past fighting during opening statements at next month’s trial. The judge said she will consider motions to admit some information into evidence on a case-by-case basis.

Crump said the family was also happy to learn of the judge’s decision to deny the defense’s request to delay the trial. ”They strongly want to get this matter before the court so they can have their day in court,” he said.
 
Mark O’Mara, Zimmerman’s lawyer, asked the judge not to pre-emptively exclude the information, saying that it bolstered their theory of the shooting–that the 17-year-old was the aggressor and Zimmerman shot him in self-defense.

After Tuesday’s hearing, O’Mara told reporters, “The Martin family, through their handlers, presented a picture of who Trayvon was, and who George was, that is wholly inaccurate and this evidence sort of shows that.”
 
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« Reply #792 on: May 29, 2013, 01:07:07 PM »

http://www.cfnews13.com/content/news/cfnews13/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2013/5/28/george_zimmerman_hea.html

No delay for George Zimmerman trial, Trayvon details limited
Last Updated: Wednesday, May 29, 2013, 8:03 AM

SANFORD --
George Zimmerman's trial for second-degree murder is still set to begin June 10, despite the defense's request to delay the trial, Judge Debra Nelson ruled Tuesday.

The judge also ruled Tuesday that attorneys will not be allowed to mention Trayvon Martin's marijuana use, suspension from school and past fighting during the trial's opening statements. Judge Nelson did, however, leave the door open to allowing some of those details as evidence during testimony.

Defense attorney Mark O'Mara said he was happy with the judge's rulings, saying the only time he would use such evidence would be if the state tried to attack Zimmerman's character.

"This information, all of it, is only going to become relevant for the defense case, according to how the state handles their presentation," said O'Mara. "If this case is limited solely to what happened from the beginning of the non-emergency call to the end of the emergency call, which includes the shot to Trayvon Martin -- if that is what this case is going to be limited to, then this evidence may not be relevant at all."
 
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« Reply #793 on: May 29, 2013, 01:10:30 PM »

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/05/29/attorneys-defense-fund-for-george-zimmerman-is-almost-empty-less-than-2-weeks/

Attorneys: Defense fund for George Zimmerman is almost empty less than 2 weeks before trial
Published May 29, 2013

ORLANDO, Fla. –  George Zimmerman's defense fund is almost depleted with less than two weeks until the former neighborhood watch leader goes on trial in the fatal shooting of Trayvon Martin.

Zimmerman's attorneys posted on their website Wednesday that the fund had less than $5,000 left. The fund had almost $315,000 in January.

The attorneys say they calculate that Zimmerman needs another $120,000 to put on a good defense or even another $75,000 to give him a fighting chance.

Attorneys Mark O'Mara and Don West say they haven't been paid a cent and many interns are working on the case without pay.

They say they will need the money in the coming weeks to pay experts and for transcripts of depositions.
 
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« Reply #794 on: May 29, 2013, 03:49:45 PM »

http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/7f810777322940b696f37841455fbac3/FL--Neighborhood-Watch-Evidence-1st-Ld-Writethru

Attorney says he alerted George Zimmerman defense team of possible evidence violation
May 29, 2013 - 2:04 pm EDT

ORLANDO, Florida — A court employee who retrieved photos and deleted text messages from Trayvon Martin's cellphone has been placed on administrative leave after an attorney testified that prosecutors didn't properly turn over the evidence to the defense, an attorney said Wednesday.

Former prosecutor Wesley White said he was ethically obligated to reveal that Fourth Judicial Circuit Information Technology Director Ben Kruidbos retrieved the data that weren't turned over.

Kruidbos was placed on leave shortly after White testified during a hearing in George Zimmerman's second-degree murder case on Tuesday. White said Kruidbos was interviewed by state attorney investigators twice before the action was taken.

White said he wasn't surprised of possible evidence violations by Zimmerman prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda.

"I was saddened by it, but I'm not surprised," he said.

White first learned about the evidence through Kruidbos more than a month ago, he said.

Phone and email messages left at the office of Fourth Judicial Circuit State Attorney Angela Corey were not immediately returned.
 
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« Reply #795 on: May 29, 2013, 08:59:23 PM »

 

http://www.baynews9.com/content/news/baynews9/news/article.html/content/news/articles/cfn/2013/5/29/security_measures_es.html

Security measures established for George Zimmerman trial
Last Updated: Wednesday, May 29, 2013, 6:53 PM

SANFORD --
Security is one of the major concerns when the George Zimmerman trial begins on June 10 bringing hundreds of people to the Seminole County Courthouse every day.

“This has the makings of some problems,” said private investigator and former courthouse deputy Jamie Copenhaver.

People from all over the world are expected to flood into Sanford for one of the most widely anticipated trials in U.S. history.

That means law enforcement must be ready for anything law enforcement agencies, like the Sanford Police Department, are stepping up patrols.

“We have essentially made sure that any vacations or furloughs have been cancelled, and there will probably be additional officers out on the street,” said Sanford Police Chief Cecil Smith.

“The sooner we get to the trial, I guarantee you they are walking through this, and getting a feel as to what it’s going to be like and they’re prepared,” said Copenhaver.

A stepped up police presence will be all around the area of the courthouse.

On Highway 17-92, one of the busiest roads through Seminole County, the sheriff’s office plans to have a deputy stationed to help direct traffic near the courthouse.

“They’re going to have what you call an outer perimeter around that courthouse, which means just that, they’re going to take a view 360 around the courthouse and look for potential problems. More importantly, your principal will be the trial. You’re going to have inner security. That’s going to be locked down just like it was in the Anthony trial.”

Copenhaver said there could be even more to watch out for during the George Zimmerman Trial with people representing several different groups expected to show up.

“I think it’s going to be magnified by about four or five times due to now we have gun control. An issue in gun control, people wanting gun control,” he said.
 
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« Reply #796 on: May 30, 2013, 11:44:12 AM »

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/os-george-zimmerman-trial-jury-selection-20130529,0,2098457.story

Judge wants four alternate jurors for George Zimmerman trial
10:16 a.m. EDT, May 30, 2013

SANFORD – Six jurors will decide whether George Zimmerman is guilty of second-degree murder, but during jury selection at his trial, attorneys will pick a panel of 10, four of them alternates, according to Seminole County Clerk of Courts Maryanne Morse.

Normally at a second-degree murder trial attorneys pick six jurors and two alternates, but in this case Circuit Judge Debra S. Nelson is apparently building in extra protection by adding more alternates.

They typically sit in the jury box with other jurors and listen to the evidence then are released when the others go into a closed room and begin deliberations.
 
As for jury selection, the judge asked Morse to summon 500 potential jurors for the trial. Those jury service notices went into the mail May 1.

All 500 people will not show up the first day of jury selection, Morse said. On Day 1 it will be 100 to 200 people, she said, and each day after that about 100 new prospective jurors.

"The objective of the court is basically to spread them out over the five-day cycle," Morse said.

Potential jurors will be required to fill out a questionnaire then will be questioned individually, outside the earshot of other potential jurors.

They'll be asked about their jobs, family, experience with police and the court system and what they've heard about the case.

Morse said she hopes jury selection can be completed during the first week. Defense attorney Mark O'Mara earlier predicted it would take two to three weeks.


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« Reply #797 on: May 30, 2013, 12:09:29 PM »

http://www.floridatoday.com/viewart/20130530/NEWS/305300046/Zimmerman-defense-fund-raises-12K-single-day

Zimmerman defense fund raises $12K in single day
May 30, 2013 11:59 AM

ORLANDO — Attorneys for the man charged in the shooting of Trayvon Martin say his defense fund has raised $12,000 in one day.

George Zimmerman’s defense team posted the figure on their website on Thursday, just a day after announcing the fund had less than $5,000 remaining.

The defense calculated that Zimmerman needs another $120,000 to put on an adequate defense. Despite the low funds, lead defense attorney Mark O’Mara says it’s too late for Zimmerman to be declared indigent, which would allow taxpayers to help defray his expenses.

O’Mara started the website to help raise funds when he took over the case last year.
 

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« Reply #798 on: May 30, 2013, 07:03:34 PM »

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-trial-hearing-canceled-20130530,0,5962020.story

Media agrees not to photograph George Zimmerman jurors at trial
11:34 a.m. EDT, May 30, 2013

Tomorrow's hearing in Sanford in the George Zimmerman case has been canceled.

On Tuesday a lawyer for several media companies, including The New York Times, CBS News, NBCUniversal and The Miami Herald, indicated they'd fight for the right to photograph jurors, something Circuit Judge Debra S. Nelson said she would prohibit.

She then ordered attorneys back to court tomorrow to discuss the dispute, but the media group lawyer, Scott Ponce, today filed paperwork, saying there was no dispute, that his clients would abide by a ban, provided it applied only to the courtroom and ended when the trial concludes.

Rachel Fugate, an attorney for The Orlando Sentinel, wrote a letter to the judge today, echoing that sentiment.

Both attorneys, though, object to another request by Zimmerman's attorneys - that the names of jurors be kept secret

Defense attorney Mark O'Mara asked for that, saying he's afraid journalists and others might hound panel members

Fugate on Tuesday said the judge could, for a time, withhold from the public the names of jurors but could not make it permanent.

In paperwork filed with the court today, Ponce agreed
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« Reply #799 on: May 30, 2013, 07:15:54 PM »

http://guardianlv.com/2013/05/george-zimmerman-trial-hampered-by-media-bias-and-prosecution-misconduct/

George Zimmerman Trial Hampered by Media Bias and Prosecution Misconduct  
Added by Graham Noble on May 30, 2013.

Justice is delivered only when a defendant and his or her accusers receive an equal opportunity to state their respective cases and present their evidence. This concept gave birth to the legal requirement that prosecutors and defenders have the same access to evidence. This rule has been broken by prosecutors in Florida, as they prepare for the George Zimmerman trail, which has been hampered by media bias and prosecution misconduct from the very beginning.
 
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