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« Reply #840 on: June 06, 2013, 02:02:25 PM »

June 6, 2013 Tweets  (Read from bottom up)

https://twitter.com/tonypipitone


Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 4h
White: "I have an obligation ... as officer of the court ... to look into it (when) ... any other attorney has misrepresented to court."

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 4h
IT director for Angela Corey, who White says was placed on leave after he came forward last week, is Ben Kruidbos. Likely next on stand.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 4h
White says he was "castigated by Miss Corey" for his role in bringing #TrayvonMartin case to her circuit.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 4h
Waiting in wings to testify: the IT director who told White he gave BDLR #TrayvonMartin phone pics of gun and drugs which BDLR denied having

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 4h
BDLR: "At some point your performance in office was an issue?" WHITE: "Not to my understanding."

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 4h
Bernie de la Rionda trying to show White and his client are biased against him and Corey. Judge letting him go there for now.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 4h
Witness Wesley White worked for Corey until December, left in dispute over priorities. His client is IT director, now suspended.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 4h
Angela Corey, the state attorney, is present as her office is about to be attacked for allegedly lying to judge about what it knew and when.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 4h
Next up: defense motion to sanction prosecution for  allegedly concealing pictures they had in January from #TrayvonMartin phone.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 4h
Names of concerned witnesses under seal until/unless they come out at trial, Judge Nelson said.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 4h
Judge Debra Nelson denies defense motion to keep some witnesses anonymous, hidden behind screen during testimony.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 4h
#GeorgeZimmerman defense says witnesses concerned acquittal would subject them to "ridicule, retribution."

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 4h
Prosecutors in #GeorgeZimmerman case oppose defense motion for witness anonymity. "What is the jury to think (of) ... screen?" asks Guy.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 4h
Media lawyer: "I understand some witnesses may want to remain anonymous ... It is not their choice." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 4h
Media lawyer: "not a private proceeding, it is public property" not as if child sex abuse witness would be on stand. "Public has right."

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 4h
"The witnesses do want to participate ... Problem is safety, privacy" issues, says atty Neilsen (sp?) for 3 seeking anonymity.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 4h
#GeorgeZimmerman atty wants screen blocking witness box when up to 7 offer "relevant, substantial" testimony to lower fear of retribution.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 4h
Attorney representing three witness who want to remain anonymous is in court, Defense wants their names kept secret at trial.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 4h
First up: sealed defense motion to keep anonymous witnesses, including at least one eyewitness to #TrayvonMartin/#GeorgeZimmerman encounter.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 5h
#GeorgeZimmerman is in the courtroom, and so is judge Nelson. Here we go! @clickorlando

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 21h
Busting some myths surrounding #TrayvonMartin's death and his accused killer #GeorgeZimmerman. Tonight @ 6. (Hint: There was no iced tea.)
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« Reply #841 on: June 06, 2013, 02:05:04 PM »

June 6, 2013 Tweets  (Read from bottom up)
https://twitter.com/tonypipitone

Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 2h
Important distinction: state did give defense source file from phone, but it seems not the 900-plus page report the whistleblower gave BDLR.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 2h
Whistleblower, asked if risk worth losing job: "I do. I think all information being shared is important ... to be sure it's fair trial."

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 2h
If judge believes state misrepresented facts, she could issue a show cause order demanding BDLR show why he should not be held in contempt.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 2h
This is a motion for sanctions AND request for judicial inquiry, when judge would ask BDLR about his statements to her. No decision yet.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 2h
Def showing state atty IT chief gave BDLR reports from #TrayvonMartin phone in January, but prosecutor told judge in April defense had all.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 2h
KRUIDBOS: Told of #TrayvonMartin phone pics of gun, drugs in Jan. 2013, BDLR said, "If the information exists we have to deal with it."

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 2h
IT chief ran report that was 35 times larger than FDLE report, finding deleted large photos, including of handgun and drugs, and texts.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 2h
FDLE report on #TrayvonMartin phone had 1/23 of the data actually on the phone, state attorney IT chief testifies.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 3h
Prosecutor IT chief suspicious when no deleted info showed up in the forensic analysis of #TrayvonMartin phone done by FDLE. He sought more.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 3h
Angela Corey just left courtroom as her suspended IT director testifies. Not saying it is related -- probably not -- but just reporting.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 3h
Ben Kruidbos, pronounced CRY-boss, has run IT office for State Attorney Angela Corey. Now testifying.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 3h
10 minute recess.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 3h
Defense had phone BIN file, but White claimed IT director had extracted photos/texts that he gave to BDLR that were not turned over.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 4h
BDLR told court he had no "information" from #TrayvonMartin phone beyond data turned over in Jan. Def claims he had extracted pics/texts.
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« Reply #842 on: June 06, 2013, 02:07:21 PM »

June 6, 2013 Tweets (read from bottom up)
https://twitter.com/tonypipitone

  Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 1h
Lunch break for one hour until 1:40 p.m.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 1h
"It was more or less office policy not to have (certain) things in writing," whistleblower from Angela Corey's office testified.

 WKMG Local 6 News ‏@clickorlando 1h
Tornado WARNING is in effect for Orange, Seminole, and Volusia Counties until 1:15PM. Stay with Local6 and... http://fb.me/1N6UyCgq3
 Retweeted by Tony Pipitone

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 1h
That was not trial commentary. NWS has issued TORNADO WARNING for Seminole County.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 1h
TORNADO WARNING in Seminole County.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 1h
State's point: defense had everything in source file. Defense: BDLR lied to judge when he said in April he had given defense all reports.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 1h
BDLR says his office was unaware on 5/24 of some info defense released from #TrayvonMartin phone on its @GZlegalCase website.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 1h
#GeorgeZimmerman def admits it had #TrayvonMartin phone source file, but claims whisteblower's report was not provided, as BDLR claimed.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 2h
Important point: the fact the defense had gun pic at April depo does not prove the state turned over the report this whistleblower gave BDLR

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 2h
State attorney Angela Corey has not returned to the courtroom, leaving a few minutes into her IT chief/whistleblower's testimony.
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« Reply #843 on: June 06, 2013, 02:08:42 PM »

June 6, 2013 Tweets (Read from bottom up)
https://twitter.com/tonypipitone

Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 4m
#GeorgeZimmerman atty says more than 1,000 pages "dumped on us two days ago" after defense claimed state hid evidence in violation of rules.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 6m
#GeorgeZimmerman atty says motion to delay trial forthcoming, based in part on state hiding evidence, seeking sanctions, contempt possible.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 16m
#GeorgeZimmerman atty Don West testifying to show they were prejudiced by alleged state withholding of #TrayvonMartin phone report.
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« Reply #844 on: June 06, 2013, 02:18:45 PM »

http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/06/06/3435636/days-before-trial-more-legal-wrangling.html
Witnesses in Zimmerman trial won’t be masked from public, judge rules
June 6, 2013
Certain witnesses won’t be masked and hidden from the public during their testimony in the George Zimmerman murder trial slated to begin next week, a Seminole circuit judge ruled Thursday.

Defense lawyers for Zimmerman, accused of murdering unarmed Miami Gardens teen Trayvon Martin, claimed in a pre-trial hearing that the witnesses wanted to avoid “ridicule or retribution” if the man is acquitted.

Attorney Mark O’Mara asked that some of the witnesses testify behind a screen. But lawyers for the media objected, and prosecutors said the screen would “confuse jurors.”

“We don’t do secret witnesses in this country,” Scott Ponce, representing The Miami Herald and other media outlets, told the judge.

Seminole Circuit Judge Debra S. Nelson agreed and denied the defense’s request.
More...


Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/06/06/3435636/days-before-trial-more-legal-wrangling.html#storylink=cpy
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« Reply #845 on: June 06, 2013, 02:25:52 PM »


http://www.miamiherald.com/trayvon/


Trayvon Martin



George Zimmerman
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« Reply #846 on: June 06, 2013, 02:28:31 PM »

June 6, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/tonypipitone

Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 9m
#GeorgeZimmerman def to state : "We caught you hiding the information ... called witness today to prove you ... misrepresented to judge."

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« Reply #847 on: June 06, 2013, 02:40:53 PM »

June 6, 2013 Tweets
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Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 3m
“@ModarresLaw: @TonyPipitone she may have been called as a witness. That's my suspicion.” Lawyerly thought on Corey's reemergence.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 6m
Angela Corey just returned to the courtroom, now that call for possible contempt of her top prosecutor is put off until post-trial.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 8m
#GeorgeZimmerman judge: "I think the court's time on this issue is better taken up post trial." Next-Hearing into voice recognition science.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 11m
Judge suspends hearing into state misconduct until after trial. Wants to begin pretrial hearing into voice recognition immediately.
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« Reply #848 on: June 06, 2013, 05:02:29 PM »

Thursday, May 6, 2013

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/06/05/zimmerman-hearing-prosecutor-violation-live-blog

 
4:12 p.m. ET: The defense is trying to play the audio recording of the 911 call.

4:09 p.m. ET: West is now asking Nakasone about the analysis his office conducted in Zimmerman's case. He is now going to play the recording that is at the center of this hearing.

4:05 p.m. ET: West is asking about some of the guidelines Nakasona believes need to be followed to have a valid recording to determine have an accurate identification. Nakasone said the voice sample being analyzed needs to be 16 seconds long.

4:01 p.m. ET: Nakasone said voice identification should only be used for an investigative tool now, and in a couple years it may be able to be used in courts.

3:51 p.m. ET: Nakasone is explaining how speech recognition technology used in phone systems differ from voice identification technology.

3:47 p.m. ET: West is having Nakasone walk throught the history of different methods of voice recognition.

3:42 p.m. ET: Nakasone is talking about how the other methods of voice recognition works.

3:35 p.m. ET: Nakasona is talking about how voice analysis technology identifies voices, and how it discerns voices from background noise.

3:30 p.m. ET: West is asking if there's different technologies used by the scientific community to conduct voice analysis. Nakasone said there's several different technologies used for voice identification.

3:26 p.m. ET: West is asking Nakasone about the process of conducting forensic voice analysis identification for the FBI.

3:22 p.m. ET: Nakasone said he is involved with forensic voice analysis identification for the FBI.

3:20 p.m. ET: West is now asking Nakasone about his work at the FBI. He is a senior level scientist to the FBI.

3:17 p.m. ET: Nakasone is talking about the development about the voice analysis technology, and how it has become more reliable over time with new technologies.

3:13 p.m. ET: West is asking Nakasone about the group coming up with the guidelines for using this technology.

3:09 p.m. ET: Nakasone said scientists in the field generally accept voice recognition technology as being reasonably reliable. However, he says there needs to be established guidelines or standards for this technology to be used in a courtroom. Nakasone is working with a group of scientists to make those guidelines.

3:06 p.m. ET: Nakasone is walking through his education, work experience and what publications have published his articles.

3:03 p.m. ET: Doctor Hirotaka Nakasone, an audio engineer for the FBI, is answering questions from defense attorney Don West.


 
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« Reply #849 on: June 06, 2013, 05:09:49 PM »

Thursday, May 6, 2013

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/06/05/zimmerman-hearing-prosecutor-violation-live-blog

HLN is live-blogging Zimmerman's hearing Thursday. Click here to read HLN's live blog of the last Zimmerman hearing. Read below for minute-by-minute updates:

4:47 p.m. ET: Mantei said someone may have a different opinion about the capabilities of the voice identification technology. Nakasone agreed with Mantei saying he had a problem with the opinion, but not the technology. Judge Nelson has recessed court until Friday at 9:00 a.m. ET.

4:42 p.m. ET: Nakasone does not believe any technology available today that could reliably identify the screams on the 911 call. He called it "disturbing" to think some thinks it is possible to identify those screams. He said it would be a breakthrough in the field.

4:39 p.m. ET: Nakasone is explaining how someone can train their ear to identify voices.

4:36 p.m. ET: Mantei has finished his questions for Nakasone, and now West is asking him follow up questions.

4:34 p.m. ET: Nakasone is explaining how voice identification technology can compare voices and eliminate voices during the analysis.

4:29 p.m. ET: Mantei is asking Nakasone about how the scientific group he works with is trying to come up with standard guidelines for using voice identification technology.

4:25 p.m. ET: West has completed his questions for Nakasone, and now prosecutor Rich Mantei is asking him questions now.

4:22 p.m. ET: "A screaming voice is too far for us to address," said Nakasone. "It might mislead in the worst case."

Nakasone said he was only able to determine that the person screaming in the background of the 911 call "was under tremendous duress, " that "the screaming was not normal human speech"and that the person was "someone facing imminent death."

4:19 p.m. ET: Nakasone said the screaming on the recording is almost impossible to analyze, because the voice changes dramatically under stress.

4:16 p.m. ET: On the recording, the caller can be heard calling 911 reporting an altercation. Someone can be heard in the background. Zimmerman looked down at his chest as the audio was being played.



 
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« Reply #850 on: June 06, 2013, 05:30:01 PM »

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57588085-504083/george-zimmerman-trial-judge-to-weigh-possible-prosecutor-sanctions-post-trial/

June 6, 2013 3:15 PM
George Zimmerman Trial: Judge to weigh possible prosecutor sanctions post-trial

(CBS) A court information technology director took the stand at a pre-trial hearing in the George Zimmerman case Thursday and testified that he found more than 1,000 additional photos -- including photos of marijuana and a hand holding a gun - and some deleted text messages and on Trayvon Martin's phone.

PICTURES: George Zimmerman in court

READ: Trayvon Martin Shooting: A timeline of events

Defense attorney Mark O'Mara has maintained that prosecutors didn't turn over the information, and has asked the court to sanction prosecutors. During a hearing Thursday, a judge ruled that the issue of possible sanctions should be taken up after trial.
 
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« Reply #851 on: June 06, 2013, 05:35:38 PM »

http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-judge-rules-witnesses-anonymous/story?id=19339871#.UbEABr4o7IU

George Zimmerman's Lawyers Don't Want 911 Call Played in Court
June 6, 2013

An FBI speech scientist testified today that current technology cannot categorically determine whose voice is heard screaming in the background of a 45-second 911 call made on the evening George Zimmerman is accused of killing Florida teenager Trayvon Martin.

"The voice was outside the normal range. We know the [computer] system cannot distinguish normal speech from abnormal speech," testified Dr. Hirotake Nakasone, a senior audio engineer at the FBI, on Zimmerman's behalf at a pre-trial hearing to determine whether the recording should be admissible.
 
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« Reply #852 on: June 06, 2013, 10:35:39 PM »

http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-judge-rules-witnesses-anonymous/story?id=19339871#.UbEABr4o7IU

George Zimmerman's Lawyers Don't Want 911 Call Played in Court
June 6, 2013

An FBI speech scientist testified today that current technology cannot categorically determine whose voice is heard screaming in the background of a 45-second 911 call made on the evening George Zimmerman is accused of killing Florida teenager Trayvon Martin.

"The voice was outside the normal range. We know the [computer] system cannot distinguish normal speech from abnormal speech," testified Dr. Hirotake Nakasone, a senior audio engineer at the FBI, on Zimmerman's behalf at a pre-trial hearing to determine whether the recording should be admissible.
 


When the article above was posted, it stated "Don't Want" in the title.  Now it is changed to "Want."   
Anyway, the defense played the 911 call in court at the Thursday's court hearing.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmermans-lawyers-911-call-played-court/story?id=19339871#.UbFA-74o7IU
George Zimmerman's Lawyers Want 911 Call Played in Court 
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« Reply #853 on: June 06, 2013, 10:37:29 PM »

http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-judge-rules-witnesses-anonymous/story?id=19339871#.UbEABr4o7IU

George Zimmerman's Lawyers Don't Want 911 Call Played in Court
June 6, 2013

An FBI speech scientist testified today that current technology cannot categorically determine whose voice is heard screaming in the background of a 45-second 911 call made on the evening George Zimmerman is accused of killing Florida teenager Trayvon Martin.

"The voice was outside the normal range. We know the [computer] system cannot distinguish normal speech from abnormal speech," testified Dr. Hirotake Nakasone, a senior audio engineer at the FBI, on Zimmerman's behalf at a pre-trial hearing to determine whether the recording should be admissible.
 


When the article above was posted, it stated "Don't Want" in the title.  Now it is changed to "Want."   
Anyway, the defense played the 911 call in court at the Thursday's court hearing.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmermans-lawyers-911-call-played-court/story?id=19339871#.UbFA-74o7IU
George Zimmerman's Lawyers Want 911 Call Played in Court 
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« Reply #854 on: June 07, 2013, 01:33:54 PM »

Video at the link

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-trial-audio-ruling-20130607,0,903275.story

George Zimmerman trial: Hearing on audio experts continues
12:58 p.m. EDT, June 7, 2013

Attorneys are back in court in the George Zimmerman second-degree murder case today, for a hearing to determine whether jurors will hear testimony about who was screaming in the background of a 911 call seconds before Trayvon Martin was shot.

The hearing has recessed for lunch. Testimony will continue at 2 p.m., the judge said.

The first witness called was Tom Owen, a New Jersey based voice expert who analyzed the 911 audio for the Orlando Sentinel last year, ruling out Zimmerman as the voice in the call. He said today he has testified more than 300 times, and never failed to qualify as an expert.

During Owen's testimony, the state played for the court a sound file he created of just the "usable" screams he extracted from the 911 audio. He said he compared that to publicly available samples of Zimmerman's voice.

"The screams don't match (Zimmerman) at all," Owen testified.

In cross examination, defense attorney Donald West attacked Owen's credentials: Owen had testified he'd been working in audio for 50 years, but the defense lawyer noted that would mean he started as a teenager.

Owen replied that he didn't start working in voice identification until the early '80s. Owen also admitted he has a financial stake in the software he used in the case, and that the screams didn't last long enough to meet the software's specifications, so he had to loop them.

West seized on that, suggesting that Owen's technique hasn't been tested before scientifically. Florida's standard for expert witnesses requires than an expert's methods are "generally accepted" in his or her field.

Owen also testified that the 911 audio wasn't sufficient for a "positive" result. His exclusion of Zimmerman as the screaming voice was only "probable," Owen said.
 
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« Reply #855 on: June 07, 2013, 01:51:37 PM »

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/06/07/live-blog-attorneys-vie-advantage-zimmerman-trial?hpt=ts1

Attorneys vie for advantage in Zimmerman trial
updated 12:58 PM EDT, Fri June 07, 2013

 
10:14 a.m. ET: Prosecutor Mantei has finished his questions for Owen. Defense attorney Don West is now asking Owen questions on cross examination.

10:07 a.m. ET: The attorneys are at sidebar with the judge.

10:06 a.m. ET: Owen said he determined that Zimmerman did not say a racial slur on the 911 call, and he also concluded that Zimmerman was not the one screaming on the 911 call.

10:04 a.m. ET: Owen said he also analyzed the 911 call Zimmerman made moments before confronting Martin to see if he made a racial slur on the call.

10:00 a.m. ET: Owen used at least three technologies to analyze the screams in the 911 call.

9:57 a.m. ET: The voice analysis technology Owen uses measures the rate someone speak.

9:53 a.m. ET: Owen is explaining the different software technology he uses for voice analysis.

9:48 a.m. ET: Mantei just played several screams from the 911 call that Owen says are useable to make for voice identification. It was just a few seconds long, and you can only hear a few screams.

9:44 a.m. ET: Owen is talking about the different technologies he uses for voice identification.

9:40 a.m. ET: Prosecutor Rich Mantei is asking Owen about how he analyzed the 911 call in this case.

9:38 a.m. ET: Owen is walking through his education and work experience.

9:37 a.m. ET: The prosecution has called Tom Owen to testify about the technology used to analyze the screams on the 911 call. Owen has been active in forensics since 1981, and he specializes in audio forensics. He is testifying via teleconference.



9:34 a.m. ET: It appears the next witness will be testifying via teleconference. There is a large projection screen where the witness can be seen.

9:29 a.m. ET: It seems court will resume despite the technical issues. Zimmerman is in attendance this morning.

9:26 a.m. ET: Judge Nelson is on the bench. The courtroom appears to be having some audio issues with its speaker system.

9:00 a.m. ET: The following two motions were filed with the court yesterday according to Zimmerman's website:  (The judge has yet to rule on them.)

Defendant’s motion to extend curfew

Zimmerman is asking the Court to extend his curfew until 11 p.m. and that he be allowed to go to Orange County to meet with his counsel for the rest of the trial. Currently, Zimmerman’s curfew is between 6 p.m. and 6 a.m. and he must stay in Seminole County. Zimmerman’s attorneys say his availability and attendance to their meetings are necessary given the “extraordinary demands of the case” to help them prepare for trial.

Defendant’s motion to prohibit spectators from wearing items that depict support

Zimmerman is asking the Court to ban people from wearing buttons, clothing, or accessories in support of the prosecution or Trayvon Martin. They defense says “the spectators' ‘message’ would be inherently prejudicial to Zimmerman and jeopardize his guarantee of a fair trial.”

8:57 a.m. ET: The hearing should start any minute.
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« Reply #856 on: June 07, 2013, 02:03:43 PM »

Friday, May 7, 2013 cont

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/06/07/live-blog-attorneys-vie-advantage-zimmerman-trial?hpt=ts1
Attorneys vie for advantage in Zimmerman trial
updated 12:58 PM EDT, Fri June 07, 2013

12:57 p.m. ET: Owen is done testifying. Court has recessed for lunch. The live blog will pick back up when court resumes at 2 p.m. ET.

12:56 p.m. ET: West made the point that Owen deviated from his own standards to conduct his analysis in the Zimmerman case. Owen said he has not deviated from his standards he just didn't have 20 words to work with.

12:53 p.m. ET: Mantei has concluded his questions for Owen. West is now asking Owen if standards don't mean anything. Owen laughed and said that is ridiculous.

12:51 p.m. ET: Owen said 911 calls are never the best quality even under the best circumstances.

12:48 p.m. ET: Mantei is asking Owen about all the factors that can render a voice sample unusable.

12:45 p.m. ET: Owen said almost every 911 calls has someone screaming in the background so it is very common for forensics to try to analyze the screams.

12:43 p.m. ET: West has concluded his questions for Owen. Prosecutor Mentei is now asking him questions.

12:39 p.m. ET: West is asking Owen about other criminal cases he has testified in, and whether he has ever been involved with separate hearing in the past to decide if his methodology was generally accepted in the field.

12:36 p.m. ET: Owen said according to the FBI that spectrograph analysis has an error rate of less than one percent.

12:32 p.m. ET: West is asking Owen if deviated from the accepted standards for spectrograph analysis in this case.

12:31 p.m. ET: West has asked for a moment to review his materials.

12:29 p.m. ET: Multiple times during his West's questioning, Owen has demanded that West let him finish speaking.

12:27 p.m. ET: West keeps asking Owen if he was able to reach a conclusion with his spectrograph analysis in this case. Owen said he could only make a probable conclusion with that method.

12:24 p.m. ET: Owen said to make a positive i.d. with spectrograph analysis the sample needs to be 20 words long. So he had to make a probable i.d. not a postive i.d. He said in Zimmeraman's case he made a probable i.d.

12:21 p.m. ET: West is asking Owen about how he used spectrograph analysis in this case.

12:18 p.m. ET: The defense is submitting some evidence on to the record.

12:15 p.m. ET: West is walking Owen through all the research he has turned over to the prosecutors. He says the defense hasn't received everything.

12:11 p.m. ET: Owen said the software he has a financial interest called Easy Voice Biometrics is used by the NCIS in a forensic capacity.

12:07 p.m. ET: Owen said he believes the person screaming on 911 call is calling for help multiple times in different ways, before the gunshot goes off.

The #zimmerman case could turn on who's screaming for help in the 911 tape.Who do you think it is?How do you think it happened?

— David Otunga (@DavidOtunga) June 7, 2013

12:03 p.m. ET: West is hammering Owen about how he used the software, and how he looped the audio to get it the software to work. He called Owen's methodology of looping the audio as "new and novel."

11:59 a.m. ET: West wants to know why Owen thinks its scientifically acceptable to loop the audio until you get enough. Owen said it is common to loop audio.

11:56 a.m. ET: Owen said he doubled the length or the screams by editing the screams together so it would be long enough of the software to analyze the screams.

The software requires a 16 second voice sample to run the analysis.

11:53 a.m. ET: West is asking Owen questions about his methodology of comparing the screams. Owens said there seems to be no research or studies about his methodology.

11:49 a.m. ET: Owen said he took a recording of Zimmerman's voice and raised it to the pitch of the screams, and they did not match.

11:46 a.m. ET: West is asking about how software assisted Owen analyze the 911 screams.

11:41 a.m. ET: West is asking Owen if he has promoted on national TV the software he receives profits from. Owen said yes, because he used the software to analyze the 911 call in this case.

11:36 a.m. ET: West is having Owen break down his financial relationship with Tracer technologies.

11:33 a.m. ET: Owen receives a contract with one of the Tracer technologies, and receives a small percentage from sales of the software.

11:30 a.m. ET: West is asking Owen questions about one of the software programs he used to analyze the screams on the 911 calls.

11:27 a.m. ET: Defense attorney West objected to Nelson ruling about focus of the hearing, and Nelson ordered the defense to continue with their questioning of Owen. She also said she would here the defense objections after testimony is concluded.

11:24 a.m. ET: Nelson said she agreed with the prosecutor's objection that today's hearing should not discuss the results of the 911 scream voice analysis. She said this hearing should only be focused on whether the methodology is new and a novel or "generally accepted" in the field.

11:19 a.m. ET: Owens documents have still not been printed out by the court. So it appears the hearing will be delayed a little while longer.

11:14 a.m. ET: The judge is back on the bench, and it appears the attorneys are still reviewing Owen's report.

10:38 a.m. ET: The court is going to take a recess for a few minutes for the attorneys to review the transcript of the screams. The live blog will pick back up when court resumes.

10:35 a.m. ET: Nelson is asking Owen to email to the transcript of the 911 screams to the attorney.

10:31 a.m. ET: West said this is the first time the defense is hearing that Owen identify speech in the 911 screams, and this hearing is an opportunity for the court to not only hear about methodology but also analysis.

10:27 a.m. ET: Mantei is objecting to defense line of questioning about the transcript of the screams as being outside the scope hearing. The hearing is supposed to be about the methodology and technology according to the prosecutor.

10:22 a.m. ET: Owen said he was able to identify certain words in the screams on the 911 call. He has a transcript and he will send it to the attorneys.

10:19 a.m. ET: West is asking Owen about his education and work experience. Owen said he has a degree in history, and does not have any advanced degrees. He also said he does not make any claim to understand the mathematics behind the software he uses.

10:16 a.m. ET: West is asking Owen about the different tools he used to analyze the 911 call in the Zimmerman case.
 


 
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« Reply #857 on: June 07, 2013, 02:10:18 PM »

Thank you for the updates grace-land.  Here are some tweets that may give some insight of what's going on inside the court room:

June 7, 2013 Tweets (Read from bottom up)
https://twitter.com/tonypipitone

 Luis F Calderon ‏@CalderonDefense 55m
@TonyPipitone #georgezimmerman defense should challenge specific method employed by software. Based on sales doesn't seem generally accepted
 Retweeted by Tony Pipitone

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 3m
Court considering state's motion to compel defense expert reports/writings. Defense says has none required for disclosure. State has doubts.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 1h
Lunch break until 2 p.m.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 1h
Expert says looping of sound samples not new or novel in field, though he earlier said it was with this software.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 1h
#GeorgeZimmerman prosecution tries to show expert's conclusion separate issue from his methodology to reach conclusion.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 1h
“@Nettles18: @TonyPipitone After hearing this testimony, you still call Owen an "expert"?” Judge decides if he qualifies as an expert.
 
 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 1h
Limited sound samples mean he can only say screams probably not #Zimmerman, expert says. Cannot be positively excluded or included.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 1h
Expert compared screams to #GeorgeZimmerman voice from videotaped reenactment day after shooting of #TrayvonMartin.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 2h
#GeorgeZimmerman attorney asking expert about his "new and novel" methodology goes to heart of Frye hearing. Wait for state to re-direct.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 2h
Expert admits looping insufficient sound to get 16 seconds has never been done before, that he knows of, with this software.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 2h
Expert says he has made only $5k in 2.5 yrs from sales of software used to analyze 911 call containing #TrayvonMartin shooting.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 2h
Judge is for now blocking the defense in this Frye hearing from challenging expert opinion of what words are heard, but not their methods.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 2h
Judge siding with state, limiting defense challenge to words experts hear at this point, but can argue whether methodology new/novel.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 2h
Delay is so expert's transcript of words in call can be reviewed here; state objects to hearing on what words are said vs. who is saying it.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 4h
“@PCNoMore: if he can use voice analysis why can't the voice stress be admitted?” Voice stress is offered to show truth. Big diff.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 4h
“@kim_5564: Who's the white hair guy in front row? He's at all the hearings....anyone? #zimmerman” Sheriff's deputy.
 
 Peter King ‏@PeterKingCBS 4h
CBS Orlando affiliate WKMG has its studio inside a huge truck. pic.twitter.com/AHzkMLCBbO
 Retweeted by Tony Pipitone
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 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 4h
Owen is just one of state voice experts. Most damaging to defense is Alan Reich, who says he hears Trayvon Martin saying, "I'm begging you."

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 4h
Witness Tom Owen is expert who excluded #GeorgeZimmerman as the source of the screams in 911 call.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 4h
Technical problems in courtroom not stopping Judge Debra Nelson. She is on the bench and ready to roll.

 Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 5h
Thanks for all who are following this for #GeorgeZimmerman trial, and welcome to the new Tweeps. O'Mara caught in traffic, may be a bit late
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« Reply #858 on: June 07, 2013, 02:11:39 PM »

June 7, 2013 Tweets
https://twitter.com/tonypipitone

Tony Pipitone ‏@TonyPipitone 2m
Judge reviewing defense emails with experts to see if state should be given anything from them. Says hearing could go into Saturday.
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« Reply #859 on: June 07, 2013, 02:24:57 PM »

This whole thing reminds me of " Paul is dead" . The listener will hear what they want to hear.
Play it backwards and it says ' Florida is a bunch of crackpots".
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