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Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 - (Body Found)
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labubske
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Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
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May 27, 2012, 09:16:16 AM »
Danny C. went into Famous Footwear and told the clerk that JM owed money and that is why Isa was taken. He stated that JM lived with the family at some point (made it sound like present tense). When LE questioned him about what he said to the clerk, he said that he didn't say it. He did say that was rumored however. He also stated that JM moved there from Florida about six months ago and did not have a job. Thinks he could be dealing drugs. SN: Danny carries a gun everywhere in the small of his back.
Finally on the final 82 pages.
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Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
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This section acknowledges Rebecca leaving at 0647 and Sergio waking up at 0713 and actually getting out of the bed at 0754...called Rebecca that Isa was missing at 0805...and called 911 at 0813 and unit was on scene at 0820.
S. Wilmot storage unit was search (with warrant). 40 CDs taken.
http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/link/563539/pdf-celis-6-sandals-found-in-park-dna-from-family
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I didn't see anything regarding surveillance from the business next door. Maybe I missed it. I did begin to scan for major standouts at some point. Maybe they just didn't release that.
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labubske
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labubske
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You're welcome, Janet. By PDF 3, I was ready to just type the main points...ha. I wanted to type all of the search areas too...but the same ones are repeated so much yet, in different ways that I gave up.
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Quote from: labubske on May 27, 2012, 12:13:35 AM
Hector Rodriguez and Robert Snyder Rodriguez had their truck (one truck, both owners) searched with a search warrant (without prior notification). Maybe that was the Silverado that was listed earlier?
http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/link/563532/pdf-celis-4-found-pillow-possible-sightings
Could the basis of the search warrant have something to do with the towel that was seized at the getgo as evidence from the Silverado?
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Quote from: labubske on May 26, 2012, 10:58:27 AM
http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/link/563522/pdf-celis-1-blood-on-seat-testimony-from-neighbor
From the first 98 pages:Noted vehicles:
2003 Blue Toyota Corolla
2000 Maroon 4 door Lexus RX300
1988 Red Acura
2008 2 door extra-cab Chevrolet Silverado pick-up
Blood stain possibly found on driver’s seat Corolla
Beer can, knife, pair of black gloves,
search warrant paper work
on passenger seat, and towel found in Silverado.
Towel was taken in as evidence
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Quote from: labubske on May 27, 2012, 10:19:03 AM
I didn't see anything regarding surveillance from the business next door. Maybe I missed it. I did begin to scan for major standouts at some point. Maybe they just didn't release that.
Maybe the surprise search warrant had something to do with what the Moore surviellance footage captured in regards to the activity encompassing the Celis residences on the night/morning Isabel went missing.
I believe that this surveillance footage is the smoking gun to solving the case.
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NANCY GRACE
Police Examine Security Camera Video in Isabel Celis Disappearance
Aired April 27, 2012 - 20:00 ET
<snipped>
GRACE: What did you see?
RICK MOORE, MOORE SECURITY SERVICES: What did I see?
GRACE: Yes.
MOORE: You know, we saw -- what we see is a lot of vehicles, Nancy. We did see some people coming through the alleyway. The cameras are trained right onto the alley, which leads right from where we`re standing right now. So we see cars coming in and out, a lot of vehicles, makes, models, color, things of that nature. And I`m sure that`s what the police are using to investigate it.
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http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1204/27/ng.01.html
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Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
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Quote from: labubske on May 27, 2012, 10:50:07 AM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on May 27, 2012, 10:35:11 AM
labubske
Thanks
Janet
You're welcome, Janet. By PDF 3, I was ready to just type the main points...ha. I wanted to type all of the search areas too...but the same ones are repeated so much yet, in different ways that I gave up.
What's PDF 3?
Janet
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Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day. I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me. It's not easy. I ask God to help me.
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“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on May 27, 2012, 11:12:37 AM
Quote from: labubske on May 27, 2012, 10:50:07 AM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on May 27, 2012, 10:35:11 AM
labubske
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You're welcome, Janet. By PDF 3, I was ready to just type the main points...ha. I wanted to type all of the search areas too...but the same ones are repeated so much yet, in different ways that I gave up.
What's PDF 3?
Janet
It's how they are sectioned off...1-6 I believe. So the first PDF (Portable Document Format) is the first 98 pages...and so on. I will go back and find the link that lists them all...I closed it down.
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Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
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https://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Wm-Snyder/1050709306#!/profile.php?id=100000522266834&sk=photos
Is this THE uncle?
I would like to be crystal clear, if this is R.S.R.- Cell phone / Hector/car thing
Thank-you
https://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Wm-Snyder/1050709306#
!/profile.php?id=1050709306&sk=friends&v=friends (
Klaas
found this, yesterday)
(Uncle) Robert is a friend of ...RWS (RB father)
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Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
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On National Weed Day, Sabrina Celis posted this on her facebook, and without naming names, several friends of Mr. Mastromarino (and he included) have had drug arrests.
As we saw yesterday, his own niece thinks he is dealing drugs. I have no idea if that is part of what happened to Isa, but I think it is fair to say that some of this was going on around her.
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Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
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The order that I gleaned for SC.
https://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Rodriguez/100000522266834#
!/profile.php?id=1050709306&sk=friends&v=friends
https://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Rodriguez/100000522266834#
!/profile.php?id=100000787896099
https://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Rodriguez/100000522266834#
!/profile.php?id=100000787896099&sk=friends&v=friends
https://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Rodriguez/100000522266834#
!/profile.php?id=664347997
Sabrina Celis
::MonkeyEek::look under "photos" (maybe, three pictures, altogether)
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Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
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Quote from: labubske on May 27, 2012, 12:13:35 AM
Hector Rodriguez and Robert Snyder Rodriguez had their truck (one truck, both owners) searched with a search warrant (without prior notification). Maybe that was the Silverado that was listed earlier?
http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/link/563532/pdf-celis-4-found-pillow-possible-sightings
BBM
Roberts truck: A Chevy Silverado.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=114778471882894&set=a.114777115216363.14434.100000522266834&type=3&theater
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Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
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http://www.perfspot.com/profile.asp?uid=557D6553-2643-487A-BEE1-3CAD55B5B240
I believe this is the same Robert Snyder ? He runs this site I think and Sabrina's friends with him on this site.
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Quote from: StarMonkey on May 27, 2012, 04:21:22 PM
http://www.perfspot.com/profile.asp?uid=557D6553-2643-487A-BEE1-3CAD55B5B240
I believe this is the same Robert Snyder ? He runs this site I think and Sabrina's friends with him on this site.
Well this is the Sabrina Celis that is connected to rob as a friend on this link is it the same one as the above FB and pic mentioned ? I couldn't see her FB
http://www.perfspot.com/profile.asp?uid=35189224-BC8E-420E-A12C-3C03C729BCD2
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Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
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Quote from: StarMonkey on May 27, 2012, 04:21:22 PM
http://www.perfspot.com/profile.asp?uid=557D6553-2643-487A-BEE1-3CAD55B5B240
I believe this is the same Robert Snyder ? He runs this site I think and Sabrina's friends with him on this site.
Hi Starmonkey!
IMO, I don't think it's the same guy. Could be wrong.
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Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
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Quote from: Blink34 on May 27, 2012, 01:51:34 PM
On National Weed Day, Sabrina Celis posted this on her facebook, and without naming names, several friends of Mr. Mastromarino (and he included) have had drug arrests.
As we saw yesterday, his own niece thinks he is dealing drugs. I have no idea if that is part of what happened to Isa, but I think it is fair to say that some of this was going on around her.
Yes, without a doubt.
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Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
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Oops! Forgot the links to the pics. So sorry.
http://www.perfspot.com/profile.asp?uid=557D6553-2643-487A-BEE1-3CAD55B5B240
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=218870804806993&set=a.218867421473998.69492.100000522266834&type=3&theater
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Back in my pre-child, semi-wild child ways I can say that we might have called that very high(no pun intended)grade, red haired bud. If the Celis' are importing/selling/trafficking that kind of MaryJ then there is no telling what kind of people they have been or are dealing with. I would not consider them seller but maybe the midman that gets it and distributes it to one or two people who then break it down for distribution. Remember the white man and his son that were spotted on camera and by LE going in the gate door and poss into the Celis' home? I thought they were going in to rob/look for drugs or remove some type of evidence. I think they know something about Sergio and Becky! Have a look at the video of them being stopped by LE, they were up to no good! Sorry, don't have link on hand. It's been given to me too recently by a very sweet Monkey.
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Re: Isabel Mercedes Celis missing #2 5/25/12 -
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Quote from: melisb on May 27, 2012, 07:04:16 PM
Back in my pre-child, semi-wild child ways I can say that we might have called that very high(no pun intended)grade, red haired bud. If the Celis' are importing/selling/trafficking that kind of MaryJ then there is no telling what kind of people they have been or are dealing with. I would not consider them seller but maybe the midman that gets it and distributes it to one or two people who then break it down for distribution. Remember the white man and his son that were spotted on camera and by LE going in the gate door and poss into the Celis' home? I thought they were going in to rob/look for drugs or remove some type of evidence. I think they know something about Sergio and Becky! Have a look at the video of them being stopped by LE, they were up to no good! Sorry, don't have link on hand. It's been given to me too recently by a very sweet Monkey.
She is be a complete idiot to post that on her FB page! I know that's harsh but they volunteer with children and have kids of their own.
You have to wonder. That said, drugs do tend to attract unsavory sorts who look to make money in all kinds of illegal ways.
I still think the circumstances are too far fetched for this to be a stranger abducation.
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