The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13

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June 20, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  13m 
Judge Nelson just read the instructions jurors will hear at the end of the trial which is that there must be an abiding conviction of guilt

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  14m 
O'Mara has for several minutes been talking about reasonable doubt and circumstantial evidence versus direct evidence.

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June 20, 2013 Tweets Cont.
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
H-81 agrees with other jurors, burden is higher in criminal cases "because there's much more at stake." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
E-28 also agrees "taking someone's liberty away" is more severe than a civil suit, likes higher standard. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
Agree with higher criminal standard? E-13: "I agree." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

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June 20, 2013 Tweets Cont.
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 31s
O'Mara: What if evidence conflicts? H-7: "That's when you use your good common sense." Reference to BDLR. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Juror says O'Mara's civil-vs-criminal discussion is comparing apples to oranges. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
@LiseLasalle Yes, in a civil case a defendant can be forced to testify. Not in a criminal case.
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June 20, 2013 Tweets Cont.
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
O'Mara: Concerns about 2nd Amendment? B-37 has concerns with types of weapons some people own. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman 3m
Huh? O'Mara just compared U.S Constitution to Windows 8.
#GeorgeZimmerman, #TrayvonMartin
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 from Sanford, FL

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
O'Mara: Lack of evidence can also lead to reasonable doubt. Problems with that? K-95: "No sir." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

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June 20, 2013 Tweets Cont.
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
B-37 says when making verdict she'll ignore her feelings about ease of access to concealed weapons permit. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin


 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
B-37: Currently, concealed weapon training is "not adequate... It's like, that's it?" #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

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June 20, 2013 Tweets cont

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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  12m 
The panel agrees that criminal convictions can take away liberty so standard of proof should be higher. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  17m 
The state objected for the fifth time about using #Zimmerman case as example to explore the difference so he went with John Doe

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June 20, 2013 Tweets cont

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Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
Court taking 15 minute recess. 

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  4m 
Screengrab: Close-up view of #GeorgeZimmerman at defense table today. #TrayvonMartin pic.twitter.com/rUvCKfqYGj
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Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
O'Mara just asked H69 if she was certain beyond a reasonable doubt about marrying her husband. She said yes.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  6m 
O'Mara is now talking about how potential jurors make decisions. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  12m 
Juror B40 says she understands second amendment but people must be responsible with firearms.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  14m 
O'Mara has moved on to a discussion about the second amendment. "You have a right to bear arms."

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June 20, 2013 Tweets Cont.
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
@LyleMazin I will tolerate any anti-beard sentiment! Nice new avatar, BTW.
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
Court is in recess for a 15 minute break. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
H-29: "I've had to make some decisions" at work. Used research, weighed options. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
@SMoKeeGyRL You sure? You're missing out on good tweets...
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
Screengrab: Close-up view of #GeorgeZimmerman at defense table today. #TrayvonMartin pic.twitter.com/rUvCKfqYGj
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
O'Mara's not questioning jurors on recent decisions they've made in their lives, what standards they used. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Darryl E. Owens ‏@osDarrylEOwens 7m
Follow @renestutzman and @JeffWeinerOS and join our chat/stream for #GeorgeZimmerman trial coverage http://thesent.nl/1949HRJ   #TrayvonMartin
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
Zimmerman trial: Jury selection continues today | Updated story: http://bit.ly/104Sogw  #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
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June 20, 2013 Tweets cont

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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  4m 
Five objections so far. 2/2 #Zimmermanon9
 
Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  4m 
WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer says the state's demeanor has changed from jovial yesterday to defensive today with 1/2 #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  6m 
Recess!

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  6m 
Defense is asking jurors to compare their decisions to civil and criminal standards. Defense is making them really think. #Zimmermanon9

Deneige Broom Deneige Broom ‏@DBroomWFTV  11m 
O'Mara asking them to compare standards of evidence, w/ how they chose breakfast this a.m.

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June 20, 2013 Tweets Cont.
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
O'Mara: We manke assumptions every day? Juror: "Everyday." Like today, "I thought it was gonna be a short day." Laughter. #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
@artistofideas Oh no!
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 Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 4m
Just realized that potential jurors have to line up in their order. Must be like knowing your spot in line in elementary school.
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
Screengrab: Lawyers, #GeorgeZimmerman stand as potential jurors enter. #TrayvonMartin pic.twitter.com/i4WRNvQcP6
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 8m
#GeorgeZimmerman jury selection resumes now | Stream: http://bit.ly/11wpinH  Stream with chat: http://bit.ly/14WdTOW  #TrayvonMartin

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June 20, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/yamiche

Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  2m 
O'Mara back to talking about decision making and making sure people pay attention to details of the case.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  5m 
Just realized that potential jurors have to line up in their order. Must be like knowing your spot in line in elementary school.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  7m 
Jurors are walking back into the courtroom.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche  7m 
Court is back in session. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

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June 20, 2013 Tweets Cont.
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
E-22: "It's difficult to stand outside yourself," ignore prior experiences. But group can help. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 9m
B-76 on jury selection: If a family member was on either side, "I would want this process to happen" #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 10m
B-61: "I think it's helpful for the jury to understand what the rules are" and the expectations. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 11m
H-81: "No matter what we've gone through" jury must "base their verdict on the evidence that's presented." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 12m
O'Mara: When we say to use common sense, "we really mean that. We don't expect you to become robots in this courtroom." #GeorgeZimmerman

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June 20, 2013 Tweets cont

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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  5m 
Said others in the group that would help prevent someone from doing that. 2/2 #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  5m 
The defense says he's concerned that people will default to the way they usually make decisions  and one juror 1/2 #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  11m 
The defense is asking jurors to be cautious and not carry life experiences into decision but use common sense. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  15m 
Back in session. One juror talked about making the very tough decision to leave Chicago and come here for young children. #Zimmermanon9

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June 20, 2013 Tweets Cont.
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Zimmerman trial: Jury selection continues today | Updated story: http://bit.ly/11PXBGF  #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
M-75: In past, I've "had to hold people accountable for what they do." Common sense based on "experiences." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
B-61: My work involves safety, "I have to hold myself accountable." Also important as a juror. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

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June 20, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/KBelichWFTV

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  5m 
From self defense. One said there are times when a split second is all you have to act to protect yourself or others . 2/2 #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  7m 
The defense points out the Good Sumaritan law which involves taking the law into your own hands and distinguishing it 1/2 #Zimmermanon9

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June 20, 2013 Tweets Cont.
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 1m
State again objects to O'Mara reading parts of a jury instruction.Judge Nelson to read the whole thing. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
E-6: "Does the law provide any clarification on what is reasonable?" O'Mara: Some. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
O'Mara reads self-defense jury instruction to jurors. Now questioning on that. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 10m
H-86: Taking law into own hands not same as "following the law" already in place, "such as self-defense." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 12m
G-29: "I think that when you feel that your life... is in danger... You kind of just react to it... entitled to do that." #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 14m
Several jurors say taking the law into your own hands is OK in certain circumstances, like defending others. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 15m
B-76: If I saw a child being abused, "I would definitely get involved" = taking law into own hands, but ok. Others agree. #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 16m
Potential juror: I would hope jury would realize "this is something bigger than all of us." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Lyle Mazin ‏@LyleMazin 20m
O'Mara is reading Florida Standard Jury Instruction 2.04; rules for weighing the evidence @JeffWeinerOS #zimmerman pic.twitter.com/r8XX5JMwFM
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 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 20m
B-76: "I think it's a natural instinct to have sympathy but sometimes" have to make "analytical decision." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 21m
B-72 agrees not to rely on sympathy in deciding case: "I've always taken a stoic approach." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 23m
H-7 compares witness bias to car salesmen: "If I go to the Ford dealer... I'm gonna have to weigh their biases..." #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 26m
B-51" "It's good to know that" we can consider witness bias, "because I didn't know that." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 27m
O'Mara: Problem evaluating witness bias? G-66: No. B-51: "I wasn't aware... that those are considerations for us." #GeorgeZimmerman

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 29m
O'Mara's now talking about witness bias, straightforwardness. Factors jury can consider at trial. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

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June 20, 2013 Tweets Cont.
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Lyle Mazin ‏@LyleMazin 22m
O'Mara is reading Florida Standard Jury Instruction 2.04; rules for weighing the evidence @JeffWeinerOS #zimmerman pic.twitter.com/r8XX5JMwFM
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June 20, 2013 Tweets Cont.
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Judge Nelson tells jurors they have to decide together what's reasonable. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 3m
E-6: Judge's reading of self-def jury instruction helped. She's concerned about definition of "reasonable." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 7m
Zimmerman trial: Jurors questioned on gun rights, self-defense | Updated story: http://bit.ly/1054uX0  #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
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June 20, 2013 Tweets cont

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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
RT @sheafferlegal: Here's Fla. Stat. Sec 776.012 setting forth Justifiable Use of Force http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0700-0799/0776/0776.html … #zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
What #Zimmermanon9 would have been thinking and feeling.. What his perception was. 2/2

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  3m 
One commented on how reasonable belief would depend on the individual and the defense says they have to consider 1/2 #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
Approach which is one of teacher and friend. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  2m 
WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer says the state's friendly approach yesterday is differing from what the defense 's 1/2 #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  5m 
The judge is reading the law about justifiable use of deadly force and is saying what the defense had told the jury. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  7m 
State objects for the 6th time. This time about defense stating the law. They are up at the bench. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  8m 
Great bodily harm. 2/2 #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV  8m 
Defense is asking how they feel about the right to use deadly force to prevent what one reasonably believes would be 1/2 #Zimmermanon9

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June 20, 2013 Tweets Cont.
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 4m
6 jurors have concern about no duty to retreat. B-7: I opposed law when it was being proposed. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 5m
H-6 on SYG: "I believe it was put there for a reason... you should be able to defend yourself." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

 Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 6m
O'Mara now questioning jurors on "stand your ground." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin