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Re: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13
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http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-trial-jury-20130620,0,3507776.story?dasdae
George Zimmerman trial: Jury selected, opening statements begin Monday
3:28 p.m. EDT, June 20, 2013
Here are some details about the jurors selected today, which were revealed during the jury selection process:
B-29: A Hispanic nurse on an Alzheimer's ward who has several children and lived in Chicago at the time of shooting. She’s married. She said she doesn't watch the news, preferring reality television: “Right when we got here, I got cable... I love my reality shows.” During jury selection, she said she was arrested once in Chicago.
B-76: A white, middle-aged woman who said Zimmerman had an “altercation with the young man. There was a struggle and the gun went off.” Has been married 30 years, and is unemployed. She formerly worked with her husband in his construction company. Her 28-year-old son is an attorney in Seminole County. She also has a daughter, 26, has been a victim of non-violent crime and rescues “a lot of pets.” The state tried to strike her, but was denied.
B-37: A middle-aged white woman who has worked for a chiropractor for 16 years and has many pets. She described protests in Sanford as “rioting.” Her husband is an attorney. She has two daughters: A 24-year-old dog groomer and a 27-year-old who attends the University of Central Florida. B-37 used to have concealed weapons permit, but let it lapse. Her husband also has one.
B-51: A retired white woman from Oviedo who has a dog and 20-year-old cat. She knew a good deal about the case, but said “I'm not rigid in my thinking.” She has been in Seminole County for nine years, is unmarried and has no kids. B-51 previously lived in Atlanta, and used to work in real estate. She also ran a call center in Brevard County which she said had 1,200 employees.
E-6: A young white woman and mother who used to work in financial services. She used this case as an example to her two adolescent children, warning them to not go out at night. She has lived in Seminole County for eight years, and is married to an engineer. E-6 was arrested in Brevard County, but said she “was treated completely fairly.” Her husband has guns. The state tried to strike her from the jury, but was denied.
E-40: A white woman in her 60s who lived in Iowa at the time of the shooting. She heard national news reports and recalls the shooting was in a gated community and a teenager was killed. She described herself as a safety officer, is married to a chemical engineer and loves football. She has a 28-year-old son who’s out of work. She said she’s very well versed in cell phone technology, and has been a victim of crime.
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E-54: A middle-aged white man with a teenage stepson who wears hoodies. He recalled seeing photos of Zimmerman's head and face that show injuries. E-54 loves golf and genealogy, and said he’s been married for five years to a technical engineer. He grew up in Seminole County and has a teenage stepson.
B-72: A young, possibly Hispanic man who does maintenance at a school and competes in arm wrestling tournaments. He said he avoids the news because he does not want to be “brainwashed.” B-72 grew up in Chicago, is single and an alumni of Phi Beta Kappa. He is very physically active, having participated in high school football, track and weightlifting. Of arm-wrestling he said, “I could talk about it all day.”
E-13: A young white woman who goes to college and works two jobs, one of them as a surgical assistant. She heard the shooting was a “racial thing.” She said she could be a fair juror “just because I don't really know that much.” She is single, has lived in Seminole County for 17 years and attends church. She also owns and rides horses.
E-28: A middle-aged white woman who has worked as a nurse for 26 years. She knew little about the case and has no opinion about Zimmerman's guilt. She has lived in Seminole County since 1985, and has been married for 28 years; her husband is a teacher. Has two adult children: 27, 23 yo kids, theme park.
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The funny comments stop Monday, I think, but if there is a grief expert I make no promises.
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June 20, 2013 Tweets cont
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 47s
Owen: Report defense expert Wayman referred to as mine is "absolutely not" mine. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
Rene Stutzman Rene Stutzman @renestutzman 1m
C-room a near ghost town, despite ongoing hearing on "screams" recording. #Trayvon's family gone. So is O'Mara, #Zimmerman & his family.
Retweeted by Jeff Weiner
from Sanford, FL
Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 1m
Owen's testimony starts with two quick defense objections. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 4m
State wanted to ask Owen about a conversation he had about software, defense objects. Sustained. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZImmerman
Rene Stutzman @renestutzman 9m
#GeorgeZimmerman leaves court for the day. Hearing on audio experts starts. State expert Tom Owen testifying by Skype. #Trayvon
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June 20, 2013, 04:22:30 PM »
Is this the guy that is just trying to sell his voodoo?
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 2m
West and Owen are talking about the report Wayman referred to. Some confusion on which document/page. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 6m
Owen says he's testified opposite defense expert Nakasone "several times." State done with questions. #TrayvonMartin
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June 20, 2013, 04:25:40 PM »
Quote from: alagary on June 20, 2013, 04:22:30 PM
Is this the guy that is just trying to sell his voodoo?
Yep, he's an expert in the software. imo
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June 20, 2013, 04:28:30 PM »
Quote from: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 04:25:40 PM
Quote from: alagary on June 20, 2013, 04:22:30 PM
Is this the guy that is just trying to sell his voodoo?
Yep, he's an expert in the software. imo
That he can not explain. except for saying it's an algorithim.
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June 20, 2013 Tweets cont
https://twitter.com/jeffweineros
Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 1m
West: Last time you and Nakasone testified in same case? Owen: Miami, federal case, a while ago. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 2m
West: You don't know algorithms behind software? State objects. Nelson: He answered earlier, anyway. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 6m
Owen says the document is a "sales document," not a scientific report. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 8m
West and Owen are talking about the report Wayman referred to. Some confusion on which document/page. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 12m
Owen says he's testified opposite defense expert Nakasone "several times." State done with questions
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 1m
Owen says he used one of two softwares he used in that case for this case. Owen done w/testimony
Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 51s
Owen: Nakasone and I both testified in 1999. My voice ID was admitted, defendant took plea. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 2m
Nelson asks West, "please don't cut him off in the middle of his answer anymore." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 3m
West interrupts Owen, who's getting frustrated: "Let me finish." West says Owen isn't being responsive
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Was Owens the expert that said Z said "these shall pass" ?
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June 20, 2013 Tweets cont
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 1m
Mantei: "Florida law favors" letting jury sort out "contested" matters. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 2m
Mantei to argue now. Cites admissibility law. Gives judge a copy
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June 20, 2013 Tweets cont
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Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 21s
Mantei notes defense expert French agreed with state on not setting minimum length for sample, less needed for exclusion. #GeorgeZimmerman
Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 2m
Mantei says Reich's approach wasn't "new and novel," he used common techniques and "concluded that these screams were not" #GeorgeZImmerman.
Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 3m
Mantei on Owen: "He's analyzed screams before," and "did not attempt to identify the voice," just exclude
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 1m
West: Reich's work "isn't done yet." No other experts hear "what he claims to hear." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 3m
West: "We have been scrambling" to "get our hands around" state's audio expert testimony. No depo of Owen
Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 3m
Mantei says judge should let jury decide experts' credibility. West up next. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 4m
#GeorgeZimmerman trial: Hearing on audio experts continues this afternoon | Updated story:
http://bit.ly/10BktyF
#TrayvonMartin
Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 5m
Mantei argues Frye hearing wasn't even necessary in this case. Says techniques are well established. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 7m
Mantei: Another defense expert spent "less than 10 minutes" listening to audio in this case
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 58s
West says defense's experts are better qualified: "distinguished international experts." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 3m
West: It's the state's burden, they didn't call anyone to validate work by Owen and Reich. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
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OSTrayvonMartin @OSTrayvonMartin 40s
VIDEO: Hear what jury selection was like from a prospective juror in the #Zimmerman jury pool. #trayvonmartin
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-trial-jury-20130620,0,3507776.story
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 2m
#GeorgeZimmerman trial: Hearing on audio experts continues this afternoon | Updated story:
http://bit.ly/10BktyF
TrayvonMartin
Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 3m
More West on Reich: "He's making it up." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 3m
@MikeSchneiderAP He did! Look out, Bond!
Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 4m
West on Reich: "His report should begin, 'It was a dark and stormy night.'" #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 4m
West: Trying to analyze this audio is a "waste of everybody's time." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
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Quote from: alagary on June 20, 2013, 04:36:25 PM
Was Owens the expert that said Z said "these shall pass" ?
No. The other state's expert...
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Reich was the most anticipated audio expert. In a report last month, he wrote that shortly before the gunshot, he heard Trayvon in a trembling voice say, "I'm begging you."
At the same time, Reich wrote, Zimmerman could be heard talking like an evangelist and saying, "These shall be."
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2013-06-07/news/os-george-zimmerman-trial-audio-ruling-20130607_1_trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman-audio
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 2m
West on Reich: "The best scientists in the world can't figure out what he did." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 4m
West calls defense expert George Doddington a "scientist's scientist." Says Owen has financial interest. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
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Quote from: grace-land on June 20, 2013, 05:08:24 PM
Quote from: alagary on June 20, 2013, 04:36:25 PM
Was Owens the expert that said Z said "these shall pass" ?
No. The other state's expert...
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Reich was the most anticipated audio expert. In a report last month, he wrote that shortly before the gunshot, he heard Trayvon in a trembling voice say, "I'm begging you."
At the same time, Reich wrote, Zimmerman could be heard talking like an evangelist and saying, "These shall be."
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2013-06-07/news/os-george-zimmerman-trial-audio-ruling-20130607_1_trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman-audio
Okay thanks . I have an opinion on that.
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 36s
West calls this "perhaps the most important evidence in this case. It caught the attention of jurors." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 1m
.@OrlandoSentinel reporter @MComas was a potential #GeorgeZimmerman juror last week. His story:
http://bit.ly/16Qevct
#TrayvonMartin
Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 3m
West again says it's the state's burden to show their experts' testimony is generally accepted in community. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 4m
@YancyFaith @DianeAx @MandyMcGlothlin You're talking about Owen? No, we didn't pay him.
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Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 30s
Mantei: Owen's financial interest in software he used is "miniscule... He hasn't made hardly anything
Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS 1m
@MzMahoganyB @renestutzman Thanks!!
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Mantei: You don't have to have a PhD to testify (Owen). Reich's opinion "tentative," not "preliminary." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
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