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Author Topic: The Slaying of Trayvon Martin in Florida #4 6/14/13  (Read 163403 times)
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« Reply #520 on: June 20, 2013, 04:11:19 PM »

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-trial-jury-20130620,0,3507776.story?dasdae

George Zimmerman trial: Jury selected, opening statements begin Monday
3:28 p.m. EDT, June 20, 2013

 
Here are some details about the jurors selected today, which were revealed during the jury selection process:

B-29: A Hispanic nurse on an Alzheimer's ward who has several children and lived in Chicago at the time of shooting. She’s married. She said she doesn't watch the news, preferring reality television: “Right when we got here, I got cable... I love my reality shows.” During jury selection, she said she was arrested once in Chicago.

B-76: A white, middle-aged woman who said Zimmerman had an “altercation with the young man. There was a struggle and the gun went off.” Has been married 30 years, and is unemployed. She formerly worked with her husband in his construction company. Her 28-year-old son is an attorney in Seminole County. She also has a daughter, 26, has been a victim of non-violent crime and rescues “a lot of pets.” The state tried to strike her, but was denied.

B-37: A middle-aged white woman who has worked for a chiropractor for 16 years and has many pets. She described protests in Sanford as “rioting.” Her husband is an attorney. She has two daughters: A 24-year-old dog groomer and a 27-year-old who attends the University of Central Florida. B-37 used to have concealed weapons permit, but let it lapse. Her husband also has one.

B-51: A retired white woman from Oviedo who has a dog and 20-year-old cat. She knew a good deal about the case, but said “I'm not rigid in my thinking.” She has been in Seminole County for nine years, is unmarried and has no kids. B-51 previously lived in Atlanta, and used to work in real estate. She also ran a call center in Brevard County which she said had 1,200 employees.

E-6: A young white woman and mother who used to work in financial services. She used this case as an example to her two adolescent children, warning them to not go out at night. She has lived in Seminole County for eight years, and is married to an engineer. E-6 was arrested in Brevard County, but said she “was treated completely fairly.” Her husband has guns. The state tried to strike her from the jury, but was denied.

E-40: A white woman in her 60s who lived in Iowa at the time of the shooting. She heard national news reports and recalls the shooting was in a gated community and a teenager was killed. She described herself as a safety officer, is married to a chemical engineer and loves football. She has a 28-year-old son who’s out of work. She said she’s very well versed in cell phone technology, and has been a victim of crime.

These are the alternates:

E-54: A middle-aged white man with a teenage stepson who wears hoodies. He recalled seeing photos of Zimmerman's head and face that show injuries. E-54 loves golf and genealogy, and said he’s been married for five years to a technical engineer. He grew up in Seminole County and has a teenage stepson.

B-72: A young, possibly Hispanic man who does maintenance at a school and competes in arm wrestling tournaments. He said he avoids the news because he does not want to be “brainwashed.” B-72 grew up in Chicago, is single and an alumni of Phi Beta Kappa. He is very physically active, having participated in high school football, track and weightlifting. Of arm-wrestling he said, “I could talk about it all day.”

E-13: A young white woman who goes to college and works two jobs, one of them as a surgical assistant. She heard the shooting was a “racial thing.” She said she could be a fair juror “just because I don't really know that much.” She is single, has lived in Seminole County for 17 years and attends church. She also owns and rides horses.

E-28: A middle-aged white woman who has worked as a nurse for 26 years. She knew little about the case and has no opinion about Zimmerman's guilt. She has lived in Seminole County since 1985, and has been married for 28 years; her husband is a teacher. Has two adult children: 27, 23 yo kids, theme park.
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« Reply #521 on: June 20, 2013, 04:16:00 PM »

The funny comments stop Monday, I think, but if there is a grief expert I make no promises.
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« Reply #522 on: June 20, 2013, 04:19:50 PM »

June 20, 2013 Tweets cont

https://twitter.com/jeffweineros

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  47s 
Owen: Report defense expert Wayman referred to as mine is "absolutely not" mine. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Rene Stutzman Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman  1m 
C-room a near ghost town, despite ongoing hearing on "screams" recording. #Trayvon's family gone. So is O'Mara, #Zimmerman & his family.
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Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  1m 
Owen's testimony starts with two quick defense objections. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  4m 
State wanted to ask Owen about a conversation he had about software, defense objects. Sustained. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZImmerman

Rene Stutzman ‏@renestutzman  9m 
#GeorgeZimmerman leaves court for the day. Hearing on audio experts starts. State expert Tom Owen testifying by Skype. #Trayvon
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« Reply #523 on: June 20, 2013, 04:22:30 PM »

Is this the guy that is just trying to sell his voodoo?
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« Reply #524 on: June 20, 2013, 04:23:07 PM »

June 20, 2013 Tweets cont

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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
West and Owen are talking about the report Wayman referred to. Some confusion on which document/page. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  6m 
Owen says he's testified opposite defense expert Nakasone "several times." State done with questions. #TrayvonMartin
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« Reply #525 on: June 20, 2013, 04:25:40 PM »

Is this the guy that is just trying to sell his voodoo?

Yep, he's an expert in the software. imo

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« Reply #526 on: June 20, 2013, 04:28:30 PM »

Is this the guy that is just trying to sell his voodoo?

Yep, he's an expert in the software. imo


That he can not explain. except for saying it's an algorithim.
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« Reply #527 on: June 20, 2013, 04:30:25 PM »

June 20, 2013 Tweets cont

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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  1m 
West: Last time you and Nakasone testified in same case? Owen: Miami, federal case, a while ago. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
West: You don't know algorithms behind software? State objects. Nelson: He answered earlier, anyway. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  6m 
Owen says the document is a "sales document," not a scientific report. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  8m 
West and Owen are talking about the report Wayman referred to. Some confusion on which document/page. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  12m 
Owen says he's testified opposite defense expert Nakasone "several times." State done with questions
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« Reply #528 on: June 20, 2013, 04:35:43 PM »

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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  1m 
Owen says he used one of two softwares he used in that case for this case. Owen done w/testimony

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  51s 
Owen: Nakasone and I both testified in 1999. My voice ID was admitted, defendant took plea. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
Nelson asks West, "please don't cut him off in the middle of his answer anymore." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  3m 
West interrupts Owen, who's getting frustrated: "Let me finish." West says Owen isn't being responsive
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« Reply #529 on: June 20, 2013, 04:36:25 PM »

Was Owens the expert that said Z said "these shall pass" ?
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« Reply #530 on: June 20, 2013, 04:39:15 PM »

June 20, 2013 Tweets cont

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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  1m 
Mantei: "Florida law favors" letting jury sort out "contested" matters. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
Mantei to argue now. Cites admissibility law. Gives judge a copy
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« Reply #531 on: June 20, 2013, 04:42:51 PM »

June 20, 2013 Tweets cont

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Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  21s 
Mantei notes defense expert French agreed with state on not setting minimum length for sample, less needed for exclusion. #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
Mantei says Reich's approach wasn't "new and novel," he used common techniques and "concluded that these screams were not" #GeorgeZImmerman.

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  3m 
Mantei on Owen: "He's analyzed screams before," and "did not attempt to identify the voice," just exclude
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« Reply #532 on: June 20, 2013, 04:53:53 PM »

June 20, 2013 Tweets cont

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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  1m 
West: Reich's work "isn't done yet." No other experts hear "what he claims to hear." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  3m 
West: "We have been scrambling" to "get our hands around" state's audio expert testimony. No depo of Owen

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  3m 
Mantei says judge should let jury decide experts' credibility. West up next. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  4m 
#GeorgeZimmerman trial: Hearing on audio experts continues this afternoon | Updated story: http://bit.ly/10BktyF  #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  5m 
Mantei argues Frye hearing wasn't even necessary in this case. Says techniques are well established. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  7m 
Mantei: Another defense expert spent "less than 10 minutes" listening to audio in this case
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« Reply #533 on: June 20, 2013, 04:56:44 PM »

June 20, 2013 Tweets cont

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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  58s 
West says defense's experts are better qualified: "distinguished international experts." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
 
Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  3m 
West: It's the state's burden, they didn't call anyone to validate work by Owen and Reich. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
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« Reply #534 on: June 20, 2013, 05:04:41 PM »

June 20, 2013 Tweets cont

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OSTrayvonMartin ‏@OSTrayvonMartin  40s 
VIDEO: Hear what jury selection was like from a prospective juror in the #Zimmerman jury pool. #trayvonmartin  http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/trayvon-martin/os-george-zimmerman-trial-jury-20130620,0,3507776.story
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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
#GeorgeZimmerman trial: Hearing on audio experts continues this afternoon | Updated story: http://bit.ly/10BktyF  TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  3m 
More West on Reich: "He's making it up." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  3m 
@MikeSchneiderAP He did! Look out, Bond!

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  4m 
West on Reich: "His report should begin, 'It was a dark and stormy night.'" #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  4m 
West: Trying to analyze this audio is a "waste of everybody's time." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
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« Reply #535 on: June 20, 2013, 05:08:24 PM »

Was Owens the expert that said Z said "these shall pass" ?

No.  The other state's expert...

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Reich was the most anticipated audio expert. In a report last month, he wrote that shortly before the gunshot, he heard Trayvon in a trembling voice say, "I'm begging you."

At the same time, Reich wrote, Zimmerman could be heard talking like an evangelist and saying, "These shall be."

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2013-06-07/news/os-george-zimmerman-trial-audio-ruling-20130607_1_trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman-audio

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« Reply #536 on: June 20, 2013, 05:10:51 PM »

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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
West on Reich: "The best scientists in the world can't figure out what he did." #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  4m 
West calls defense expert George Doddington a "scientist's scientist." Says Owen has financial interest. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
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« Reply #537 on: June 20, 2013, 05:15:10 PM »

Was Owens the expert that said Z said "these shall pass" ?

No.  The other state's expert...

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Reich was the most anticipated audio expert. In a report last month, he wrote that shortly before the gunshot, he heard Trayvon in a trembling voice say, "I'm begging you."

At the same time, Reich wrote, Zimmerman could be heard talking like an evangelist and saying, "These shall be."

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2013-06-07/news/os-george-zimmerman-trial-audio-ruling-20130607_1_trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman-audio


Okay thanks . I have an opinion on that.
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« Reply #538 on: June 20, 2013, 05:20:25 PM »

June 20, 2013 Tweets cont

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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  36s 
West calls this "perhaps the most important evidence in this case. It caught the attention of jurors." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  1m 
.@OrlandoSentinel reporter @MComas was a potential #GeorgeZimmerman juror last week. His story: http://bit.ly/16Qevct  #TrayvonMartin

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  3m 
West again says it's the state's burden to show their experts' testimony is generally accepted in community. #TrayvonMartin #GeorgeZimmerman
 
Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  4m 
@YancyFaith @DianeAx @MandyMcGlothlin You're talking about Owen? No, we didn't pay him.
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« Reply #539 on: June 20, 2013, 05:25:20 PM »

June 20, 2013 Tweets cont

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Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  30s 
Mantei: Owen's financial interest in software he used is "miniscule... He hasn't made hardly anything

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  1m 
@MzMahoganyB @renestutzman Thanks!!
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Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS  2m 
Mantei: You don't have to have a PhD to testify (Owen). Reich's opinion "tentative," not "preliminary." #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
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