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« on: July 23, 2012, 03:12:37 PM »


JUSTICE FOR NATALEE AND STEPHANY!
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« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2012, 03:20:33 PM »

  
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« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2012, 05:46:29 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2012, 09:15:25 PM »

This happened in Curacao.

I knew this didn't sound right when I read the translated headline in Amigoe!

 

http://www.amigoe.com/curacao?start=5

Google translation:

Twin Girls (6) in hotel bathtub drowning
MONDAY, JULY 23, 2012 10:19
WILLEMSTAD - in a bathtub of a room at the Marriott Hotel last night the lifeless bodies of twins found. The girls showed no signs of life. Their mother was short ...
Read more ...

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/07/23/curacao-police-probe-bathtub-deaths-twin-girls-mother-undergoes-psychiatric/

Curacao police probe bathtub deaths of twin girls, mother undergoes mental evaluation

Published July 23, 2012
Associated Press

WILLEMSTAD, Curacao –  Authorities on the Caribbean island of Curacao are investigating the deaths of 6-year-old twin girls found in a bathtub at a beach resort.

Prosecutor Ludmila Vicento says the dead girls' Belgian mother is being evaluated at a psychiatric hospital. The 35-year-old woman has not been charged with anything. Authorities on the Dutch island are only identifying the mother by her initials, S.V.

Vicento says staff at the Curacao Marriott Beach Resort saw the woman walk naked into the sea late Sunday. They brought her back to shore and called authorities.

Police soon found the lifeless girls in her room's tub. They have not released more details citing an ongoing probe. Autopsies are pending.

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2012, 09:19:16 PM »

http://www.montrealgazette.com/travel/Belgian+woman+held+Curacao+hospital+police+probe+bathtub+deaths/6977026/story.html

Belgian woman held in Curacao hospital as police probe bathtub deaths of her 6-year-old twins
 
 
BY THE ASSOCIATED PRESS JULY 23, 2012 5:50 PM

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Vicento said witnesses at the Curacao Marriott Beach Resort & Emerald Casino saw the woman walk naked into the sea Sunday night. They brought her back to shore and called authorities.

Police soon found the lifeless girls in her room's tub. They have not released more details citing an ongoing probe. Autopsies on the children are pending.

The girls' grandmother was staying in a separate room from the woman and her twin daughters, according to Vicento. The children's father did not accompany them on their trip to Curacao, she added.

A spokeswoman for Marriott International said the company will do all it can to assist Curacao police in their investigation at the 237-room hotel.

"Our thoughts and prayers go out to the family and loved ones of the girls," Marriott spokeswoman Laura Botelho said in an email.
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2012, 09:46:55 PM »

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=13217.msg1535224#msg1535224
   
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Brittney Wood family wants investigation
Family wants a criminal investigation

Updated: Monday, 23 Jul 2012, 5:47 PM CDT
Published : Monday, 23 Jul 2012, 3:01 PM CDT

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Wood's mother believes upgrading her daughters case to a criminal investigation would bring more resources to the investigation. And hopefully, bring her daughter home

"She only had me one grand baby, and I'm hoping that baby could at least be able to visit her mama. My worst nightmare is to be Natalee Holloway's parents never to bring their child back," said Wood.

more at link:
http://www.fox10tv.com/dpp/news/local_news/mobile_county/brittney-wood-family-wants-investigation
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2012, 01:33:16 PM »

Today, the Dutch sources are reporting information from the article in RadarOnline.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/07/joran-van-der-sloot-not-getting-married-lawyer-exclusive

Posted on Jul 20, 2012 @ 12:30PM   
No Wedding Bells For Joran! Reports Of Van Der Sloot's Marriage 'Are A Joke,' Says His Lawyer

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His lawyer from Lima, Peru went on to explain that at the Piedras Gordas prison where the 24-year-old is currently held hosts mass marriage ceremonies for inmates, and one of the people who organizes them made up the story that van der Sloot was one of the grooms-to-be.

PHOTOS: Joran Van Der Sloot In Custody

"I don’t know what the purpose was but I assume they were trying to get the attention of the correctional department and the media to get a better ceremony," Cotrina told Radar.

While he wouldn't describe him as a "celebrity," the lawyer said the Dutchman is always the center of attention at the high security prison. "Everyone tries to be around Joran and get pictures with him and interviews."

PHOTOS: Stars Who Died In Bizarre Ways

It was reported that the charismatic convict had women come visit him at his former and more lenient prison, Castro Castro (although his lawyer at the time denied that he got one of them pregnant in June 2011), but conjugal visits are not allowed in his new home.

"He is allowed relatives to visit but no girlfriends," explained Cotrina, and for married inmates: "Wives are permitted but not for conjugal visits or overnight stays.

EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: Joran Van Der Sloot's Bloody Clothing

"Most people in Peru have kids and they want to formalize the visitation rights so they get married," he added.
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« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2012, 01:38:42 PM »

They are also reporting information that is found in the National Enquirer.

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/true-crime/inside-jorans-hell-hole-hacienda

INSIDE JORAN’s HELL HOLE HACIENDA
Published on: July 23, 2012

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"At the beginning, he found it hard as he was in solitary confinement for the first five days – there was no heat, no water, no bathroom; you get crazy down there as the conditions are hell," explained Cotrina. "Now he is in the general population and he has more friends and he is settling in."

In fact, the 24-year-old Dutchman is often the center of attention: "He is very popular there because he teaches English to the inmates, and he is very charismatic. He has a very good behavior record. He tries to help the other inmates because he has a superior education."

While Joran tries to settle into the place that could be his permanent residence for almost three decades, his attorney is campaigning on his behalf.

"The sentence of 28 years was excessive because according to the Peruvian penal law, Joran was only meant to get 15 to 17 years, so I am appealing to the supreme court to make a complaint to the Inter-American Commission of Human Rights," he explained.

"We are hoping to get it reduced by 10 years," said Cotrino, who also preparing a $50 million lawsuit on van der Sloot's behalf protesting the "excessive sentence."
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« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2012, 07:41:02 PM »

http://www.boletinextra.com/comunicado-oficial-di-polis-di-curacao-di-e-suseco-na-marriot-hotel/

Papiamentu translation:

comunicado oficial of police of curacao of the suseco at marriot hotel

written by bulletin on july 23, 2012.

posted in local news

official polisial: tópiko: two younger of age meet in badkuip in bedroom of hotel with do not give sign of life sunday 22 of july 2012, alrededor of 20.20’or, owing to enter the information nasentral of police with at one hotel situá at john f. kennedy boulevard the personal owing to bintopa in one of the kambernan with two younger of age drumí in one ‘badkuip’ and with do not give sign of life. the patrol with go at the sitio owing to come across with the two children in one ‘badkuip’ in one of the kambernan of hotel and they not was give siñal of life. for of one investigation preliminar with police owing to make at the sitio owing to resultá with hour the personal of the hotel owing to konstatáku water was leave for of bedroom of the hotel they owing to open the door and hañ’é the children in the ‘badkuip’. also they owing to declare at police with the mother with is kedando in the bedroom with the children will have to owing to leave go for a while ayá for of the hotel in one auto. more late is enter information at central of police with at the sea at piscadera have one lady is bark in water. police with owing to go at the sitio owing to come come across with the lady in sea and with aid of some person on “seadoo” owing to succeed sake for of in water. the lady is kuadra with the account of esun with was hospedá in the hotel upstairs mention. with ambulance owing to transport the lady s.m.p.v. nasé at bèlgika of 35 year of age for poli of st. elisabeth hospital waystreet after of tratamentu the la stay interná in clinic capriles for tratamentu. doctor of police for 21.30 ‘or owing to ascertain dead of the two muchanan; owing to.a.c.n.m. and owing to.a.c.n.m., ámbos girl arise at bèlgika and ámbos of 6 year of age. on òrdu of fiskal of ministerio public owing to confiscate the body without life of the victim for more investigation. reshèrshi is follow with the investigation.

http://www.boletinextra.com/e-mama-a-a-sali-algun-dia-pasa-di-un-afkickcentrum-esaki-te-mama/

Papiamentu translation:

apparently the mother owing to leave of one afkickcentrum y have ok for trip cu his yiunan

written by bulletin on july 22, 2012. posted in local

rumornan is tell cu the mother was comprta his self bad by some day end at the hotel y was maltrata the children. owing to come leave at cla cu the mother have problem mental y posiblemente some day happen owing to leave for of one centrum at belgica. dokternan owing to achieve cu el’a progresa y cu the can bay vakantie cu his yiunan. the achieve the lady here in lama y hour of entrege at police el’a tell cu the is family of the children. do not the owing to matanan, but his mother owing to matanan. this is photograph of the mother.

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« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2012, 08:05:00 PM »

http://www.amigoe.com/english/120643-twin-girls-6-years-drown-in-hotel-bathtub

Twin girls (6 years) drown in hotel bathtub         

MONDAY, 23 JULY 2012 11:42

WILLEMSTAD — Twin girls were found dead in a bathtub of a room in the Marriott Hotel last night. The girls gave no sign of life. Shortly afterwards two people on a Seadoo had carried their confused and naked mother ashore. The woman was admitted to the Klínika Capriles with a psychiatric certification.The 35-year old Belgium woman S.M.P.V. was on holidays on Curaçao since last week with her daughters, both with the initials A.A.C.N.M., and her mother. The authorities have meanwhile informed the father in Belgium. The consul of Belgium on Curaçao, Ivan Moreno, received instructions from the Belgium embassy in Caracas not to make any statements to the media. The embassy, closed until July 25th, was not available for comment. Press officer Gisele Veen-Jonkhout confirmed that the bodies of the girls were confiscated by order of the Public Prosecutor. The autopsy will be performed later this week.

The grandmother is to stay on the island for the time being, due to interrogation by the police. No information is being given on the psychological situation of the mother and the situation of the family; the psychiatrists are to speak with the woman.

Hotel personnel had alarmed the policy around eight last night after noticing that water was coming from under the door of the hotel room. When opening the door to check the situation, they found the dead bodies of the children in the bathtub. The personnel members also stated they had seen the mother leave the hotel in a car shortly before and shortly afterwards the police received a call of a woman at sea further on at Piscadera, crying loudly. It appeared to be the mother of the twins. The woman supposedly cried out that her mother was responsible for the death of her children. An ambulance had first taken the woman to the outpatients’ clinic and subsequently to Klínika Capriles.

Blackberry

A picture, taken in the bathroom of the hotel room with the two deceased twins, was circulated via Blackberry last night. The Public Prosecutor is informed of this. Whether the sender is guilty of penal acts will be included in the investigation. After the storm of criticism, the picture was deleted via the link in question. The social media hadn’t announced who had circulated the picture. Apparently the written press wisely hadn’t published the picture, although pictures of the mother – clothed in a towel – were published or images broadcasted.

Family drama

The suspected family drama is the second with six months. Last January, the police found the bodies of a father, mother and 15-year old son in an apartment building at Dominguito. The father and son were dead while the mother had a pulse beat. Medicines among other things were found in the room. The family from France had been coping with financial problems and apparently saw no other way out than commit suicide. Later on in the hospital the woman was arrested on suspicion of murdering her underage son. She committed suicide later on, while in prison.
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2012, 06:20:03 PM »

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Kyle Kingman:
 I took the proportions of the body form from the head, to shoulder, to a 90 degree angle which I believed to be the hem line of Natalee's skirt. I then took those proportions and matched them to the photo of Natalee with what she was last seen wearing. The proportions matched within an inch from head, to shoulder, to skirt line. Based on this comparison and with what we believed we saw in the Dec 29th video, Tim Miller contacted the family and told them the 99.9% comment. I told Tim not to do anything until we have forensic results back after the site is processed. Jan 7th we sampled the contents and in my opinion we found the skirt under the sand along with the other items The blue fabric was found right where the skirt is pictured. If it isn't her, it will forever haunt me as a major cosmic WTF.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4209.msg568246;topicseen#msg568246



Kyle Kingman:  John is not a believer in the trap. He took ALE's word as gospel that it wasn't case related, yet never studied the videos or bothered to inquire further. He had plans on doing business with Aruba and in S. America and he didn't want to hurt any feelings by talks hinting at lack of complete trust and friendship. I did not feel the same and we had a major difference in opinion. He was the one who never pressed ALE to be completely open with us with the trap evidence. I would have forced them to. However, John was the one paying my invoices so I was forced to sit back and hope for the best.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4182.msg564753;topicseen#msg564753


Kyle Kingman:  If I didn't believe in what I witnessed and what I found, I wouldn't have shared it with anyone, especially on the net. If I wasn't absolutely disturbed at how things turned out because of the project leads and corrupt officials I would NEVER have taken any action on my own.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8987.msg1268161;topicseen#msg1268161

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« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2012, 06:26:20 PM »

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I hope that the Persistence has not done all of this work and gone to all of this expense only to have gotten itself into an arrangement whereby Aruban divers are the ones who actually verify the targets and are the first ones to physically retrieve evidence, with no American divers physically with them. If so, all I can say is I just can't believe this has happened. But surely I am wrong.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2662.msg358435#msg358435


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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #746 4/4
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If I understood Kyle correctly, and that would be that the Arubans retrieved and possessed all finds, not sharing anything with the crew, then that effort was a waste of time and effort. The only thing it could have accomplished was to locate additional evidence for the Arubans to destroy. I am not sure if that was the protocol out of Aruba's waters though. The effort was superb, but the game was fixed.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2769.msg372245;topicseen#msg372245

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« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2012, 06:42:00 PM »

Janet - do you have a link for this? 

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=13361.msg1535455#msg1535455
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« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2012, 07:05:11 PM »




Respectively:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4209.msg568246;topicseen#msg568246

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4182.msg564753;topicseen#msg564753

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8987.msg1268161;topicseen#msg1268161

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Thank you.  I've added them to your original post.  MB
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« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2012, 09:20:11 PM »

NOW!

http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/radio.m3u

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« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2012, 10:54:05 AM »


Thanks you Muffy.

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« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2012, 12:53:57 AM »

hmmm...His face looks red and bloated in the picture--wonder why? 

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A super party at MooMba Beach is not complete without the rousing music of house DJ Diablo, but last Sunday there was a special guest DJ that livened up the place even more. Just 15 years old, blessed with loads of talent, DJ Denver Parera had the chance to rock the house really good. The DJ was really enthusiastic about getting the opportunity to play at MooMba Beach, which ranks among the best 50 beach bars in the world.
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« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2012, 02:23:04 AM »

Sorry if its already been posted. It just may be stuff that Perez is regurgitating.

Murderer Joran Van Der Sloot Having A Ball In His Peruvian Prison

http://perezhilton.com/2012-07-23-joran-van-der-sloot-happy-in-jail-natalee-holloway-stephany-ramirez?utm_campaign=aprtest&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=outbrain
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« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2012, 03:58:20 PM »

Only Joran could find a way to "have a ball" in prison - more proof positive how evil he truly is. I do just love how he is whining about his psychological issues now too, while Anita enjoys her island life with no repercussions for being one wicked example of those who should never be allowed to have children much less teach!!!

Still praying he gets extradited to the US where he has to truly face the music !! ::boxingjoran::
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« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2012, 04:33:42 PM »

Hi Nonesuche!  Good to see you!

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