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Author Topic: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #866 7/23/12 - 12/01/12  (Read 682822 times)
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« Reply #500 on: October 10, 2012, 12:38:11 AM »

It's all a ploy to get Joran attention with hopes for an interview in prison.  I wouldn't put it past Anita to be in on it.  IT'S ALL BS.


I agree and Maximum Highness has never had a close relationship with the truth.
He is as big a liar as Joran. IMO

I agree.
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #501 on: October 10, 2012, 12:41:40 AM »

It's all a ploy to get Joran attention with hopes for an interview in prison.  I wouldn't put it past Anita to be in on it.  IT'S ALL BS.

I've been thinking the same.   



Especially after I saw her post on that girls facebook 


When I heard this, the thought went through my mind of artificial insemination.  It's such a Joran kind of thing to do.  He'd think he was so clever.

But seems he wouldn't accomplish anything as he has to complete his sentence before he could become a citizen anyway so not really much point in some sort of grand deceit.  Other than money from interviews.

I just hope there are no women willing to go along with him anyway.  But I did think about a semen specimen smuggled out and used to impregnate somebody if it would gain Joran something.  He has so little regard for other human beings that I think he is fully capable of something like that.

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« Reply #502 on: October 10, 2012, 12:45:37 AM »

Not sure there would be a purpose except to sell the story to the tabloids. 
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« Reply #503 on: October 10, 2012, 12:50:44 AM »

I'm thinking their lies probably aren't making that young mother's every day life very pleasant.

And they could care less.

 
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #504 on: October 10, 2012, 01:38:14 AM »

Not sure there would be a purpose except to sell the story to the tabloids. 


I can't think of any reason either other than to try to sell another lame and false story to the tabloids. 

Which might mean Joran is totally broke again.

Imagine being where he is without any money at all. 

I like it.  Works for me, lol!

 
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« Reply #505 on: October 10, 2012, 01:52:00 AM »

Maybe he's selling his semen.   
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« Reply #506 on: October 10, 2012, 08:46:23 AM »

Maybe he's selling his semen.   

Ewww!! 
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« Reply #507 on: October 10, 2012, 09:52:23 AM »

Maybe he's selling his semen.   
Demon semen.
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CBB, I am still laughing over "Wonkey eyed little pickle tickle"     

 
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« Reply #509 on: October 10, 2012, 10:49:26 AM »

Joran Van Der Sloot and have another child
It would be the result of the relationship with Leydi Figueroa, who would be pregnant again the Dutch.

Miércoles 10 de octubre 2012 - 09:15

The child will Joran Van Der Sloot with Leidy Uceda Figueroa would not be the first. Sources of criminal "Piedras Gordas" revealed that the Dutch already had one with the same girl. The boy, about 2 years, is taken every month and the European penitentiary would have presented as its stem.

"She comes with the baby. Not always, because they can not criminal provisions, but every month brings. Father's Day were here (in prison) and Joran introduced him as his son. For us if you like him, "one of the guards.

Leidy and met Joran in prison "Miguel Castro Castro", where the Dutchman was held for the first time after being arrested for killing Stephany Flores.

ON FACEBOOK

The love between the two is no secret to friends and mother of Joran, who in the Facebook account of Leidy will leave loving messages for "Joran Baby" ("Baby Joran").

In their statements, Leidy also expresses his feelings for Joran, whom he calls "giant baby". "I lack little to see us, just have a little patience. Miss you too much, "he writes.

It also ensures that Joran Leidy-like couple who refused in 2011 - is paying his mistakes and deserves another chance. For specialists, Van Der Sloot would be looking to avoid being extradited to the U.S. to stand trial on charges of extortion after he requested $ 250,000 to the mother of Natalee Holloway, supposedly to reveal the location of the body of her daughter, who also have killed.

http://trome.pe/actualidad/1480771/noticia-joran-van-der-sloot-ya-tendria-otro-hijo
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« Reply #510 on: October 10, 2012, 12:01:49 PM »

Thanks Northern Rose

When it is considered that Leydi Carol Figueroa Uceda also appears to be the focus of the June 2011 so-called "baby" rumor ... MAYBE some truth does abound.

According to Aldo Cotrina ... the difference now is ... unlike Castro Castro ... Piedras Gordas  prison does not permit prisoners conjugal visits.

Could it be that Maximo Altez's claim he was able to make arrangements that afforded Joran conjugal visits reflects the truth?  In other words ... when it come to established boundaries ... entitled Joran is not required to conform.  Something akin to an underage young man who has VIP passes that allowed him access to all the gambling and drinking establishments in Aruba.

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JUNE, 2011

Joran van der Sloot Reportedly Gets Girlfriend Pregnant Behind Bars
Published June 16, 2011


Joran van der Sloot -- the Dutch man accused in the murder of a Peruvian woman and the main suspect in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway -- has gotten his girlfriend pregnant while behind bars, the Daily Mail reports.

The U.K. paper reports that van der Sloot's girlfriend was frequently seeing him for conjugal visits, going to his jail cell to do "chores" and bringing him candy.

His girlfriend reportedly works at the same Peruvian casino where he met Stefany Flores, the woman he is accused of murdering in June 2010.

Ricardo Flores, Stefany's father, has asked officials at the Miguel Castro Castro Jail to investigate the conjugal visits.

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http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/06/16/joran-van-der-sloot-reportedly-gets-girlfriend-pregnant-behind-bars/


JULY, 2012

Van der Sloot to wed behind bars in Peru
Friday, July 20, 2012


Joran van der Sloot, the prime suspect in Natalee Holloway's 2005 disappearance and a convicted killer, may tie the knot behind bars in Peru.

The 24-year-old is reportedly planning to marry while serving a 28-year sentence in a Lima prison for the murder of Stephany Flores, according to Peruvian tabloid Peru 21.

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http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-07-20/news/32768126_1_maximo-altez-sloot-stephany-flores


OCTOBER, 2012

Joran Van Der Sloot's Lawyer Denies He Got Woman Pregnant in Prison
Oct. 8, 2012


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Altez blamed the pregnancy rumors on his own client and said De Telegraaf had never contacted the lawyer directly.

Uceda, however, had been authorized to visit van der Sloot for conjugal visits, he said. Altez said he originally utilized the woman, who had access to the prison, to help him run errands there. Later, he helped make arrangements to grant her permission for conjugal visits with van der Sloot.

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http://abcnews.go.com/News/joran-van-der-sloots-lawyer-denies-woman-pregnant/story?id=17426249
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« Reply #511 on: October 10, 2012, 12:09:57 PM »

I'm thinking their lies probably aren't making that young mother's every day life very pleasant.

And they could care less.

 

I too thought about that. I also wondered if perhaps she is the one driving the story. I have watched a great number of these crime stories unfold over the past half dozen years... right here with you texasmom and all of my monkey friends. In each one - I have seen so many people that are willing to sell their souls for cash. They want so desperately to be included in the story in some way. Some for their egos, some for fame, some for peer recognition, some for the love of money. Some are just misguided and plumb slap silly stupid... I think if you asked them why they are doing it --- they might not be able to give you an answer. Then, there are the Marys of the world. The self-deluded  "super hero" - but in reality, are anti-heros and are to be pitied. (and by pitied I mean SHUNNED like the zippity dickens.)

Is de world crazy, or what? Answer: 
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« Reply #512 on: October 10, 2012, 12:39:02 PM »

"...zippity dickens.)"      You're killing me carpe!  But yes, ITA.      
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« Reply #513 on: October 10, 2012, 01:13:11 PM »

Maybe he's selling his semen.   
Demon semen.

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« Reply #514 on: October 10, 2012, 02:22:16 PM »

Maybe he's selling his semen.   

Ewww!! 
I threw up in my throat at that thought.
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« Reply #515 on: October 10, 2012, 03:06:08 PM »

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/10/joran-van-der-sloot-pregnant-jail-never-met-woman

Joran Van Der Sloot 'Has Never Met Woman Who Claims He Got Her Pregnant,' Says Lawyer 
Posted on Oct 09, 2012 @ 07:00PM   

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When it comes to women who lie about being impregnated by inmates like Joran, his attorney feels that the women's babies are the real ones that suffer.

"When the baby comes out it will grow up and when it starts going to school someone can Google his name or his mother’s name and link them to Joran.

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"It is not fair that any baby be linked with him," he argued.
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« Reply #516 on: October 10, 2012, 03:34:59 PM »

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/10/joran-van-der-sloot-pregnant-jail-never-met-woman

Joran Van Der Sloot 'Has Never Met Woman Who Claims He Got Her Pregnant,' Says Lawyer 
Posted on Oct 09, 2012 @ 07:00PM   

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When it comes to women who lie about being impregnated by inmates like Joran, his attorney feels that the women's babies are the real ones that suffer.

"When the baby comes out it will grow up and when it starts going to school someone can Google his name or his mother’s name and link them to Joran.

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"It is not fair that any baby be linked with him," he argued.
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The original reporting was that Joran "himself" contacted the Dutch newspaper De Telegraaf.  The story has changed.  Why?

Janet

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Conjugal Visits? - Cell Phones?

Convicted killer Joran van der Sloot reportedly impregnates woman while imprisoned in Peru
Published October 08, 2012


A newspaper reported Monday that Joran van der Sloot, a Dutch man who is serving a 28-year-sentence for murdering a young Peruvian woman, says he is going to be a father. His attorney said the inmate does have a conjugal visitor, though he could not confirm she was pregnant.

The Dutch newspaper De Telegraaf said Van der Sloot, a suspect in the 2005 disappearance of U.S. teenager Natalee Holloway, himself told it in a telephone call on Saturday that "a test has proved" the pregnancy.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/10/08/convicted-killer-joran-van-der-sloot-reportedly-impregnates-woman-while/
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« Reply #517 on: October 10, 2012, 06:10:56 PM »

I'm surprised that Joran has any semen left to spare.  It is a protein product, and those boys get very hungry down there what with the country spending only a dollar a day to feed each inmate.  I'm sure Joran is getting and giving his protein supplement each day.  YUCK!
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« Reply #518 on: October 10, 2012, 07:32:35 PM »

Hmmm...John van den Heuvel of The Telegraph

http://www.rtl.nl/components/actueel/rtlnieuws/2012/10_oktober/10/binnenland/baby-zou-tweede-kind-van-joran-van-der-sloot-zijn.xml

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RTL News | October 10, 2012, 20:57
"Joran van der Sloot has child with girlfriend '

The baby that Joran would get with his Peruvian girlfriend would be the second child with her. Sources in the prison where Joran is, say by a Peruvian site.

Earlier this week Joran told the ditch itself against John van den Heuvel of The Telegraph that he had a child with the 23-year-old Leidy. That would be three months pregnant by the Dutchman who is stuck in Peru for the murder of Peruvian Stephany Flores.
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Leidy Figueroa, according to the sources in the prison every month with the child they already Joran would have reported the site Trome.pe. It comes to about two years old Mathias. Last year it was speculated that Joran would be the father of Mathias, but this was by Joran as 'nonsense' labeled. Leidy said on television that they are emotionally "Joran not even know."
 
That was not so. A knowledge of Leidy says that the two already have a relationship. They would have met each other in prison. On Leidy's Facebook page are pictures of gifts that Joran recently to his girlfriend for her birthday, like a heart that says "You have the key to my heart." Remarkably responds the mother of Joran, Anita van der Sloot, pictured with "what is beautiful '. Also 'liked' them different pictures of Leidy.
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« Reply #519 on: October 10, 2012, 07:42:10 PM »

And...from 2011 when he was in Castro Castro

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/12/19/inside-joran-van-der-sloot-s-prison-in-peru.html

Inside Joran Van Der Sloot’s Prison in Peru
Dec 19, 2011 7:40 PM EST

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A few months before Perez Guadalupe started the job, local Peruvian media reported that van der Sloot was enjoying privileges behind bars. According to the Flores family’s attorney, Edwar Alvarez Yrala, a young woman named Leidy Figueroa Uceda had gone to visit the prison and is now the mother of a child conceived with van der Sloot. Born in late March, the baby boy would have to have been fathered during van der Sloot's early days in Castro Castro. Figueroa, 22, appeared on local television stating she simply went to visit a family member at the prison; she denied having a relationship with van der Sloot.  As did van der Sloot’s former attorney, Maximo Altez, who also denied the link between Figueroa and van der Sloot. “She is willing to take a DNA test and I’m sure Joran is, too. He is not the father,” said Altez in a report on Peruvian television, Channel 5.
 
Figueroa lives and works near the prison. According to reports, she works at one of the many kiosks that offer all sorts of commercial services, from renting skirts to the women who visit the prison on Wednesdays and Saturdays, to delivering food and cleaning supplies to the inmates.
 
The story of van der Sloot’s prison love-child does appear to be nothing more than gossip: according to the National Penitentiary Institute, Figueroa had entered the prison on two occasions to visit two other inmates who have now been transferred to other prisons. “He [van der Sloot] is contained in a restricted area under a closed regime that does not allow visits from nonblood relatives,” says Perez Guadalupe.
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