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Author Topic: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #866 7/23/12 - 12/01/12  (Read 653493 times)
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« Reply #200 on: August 24, 2012, 01:25:02 PM »

Someone has a pre-trial conference tomorrow and it's not the Kalpoes or Joran    Monkey Devil!

looks like it's continued

PRE-TRIAL CONFERENCE   05-SEP-2012
3rd District Court   HOULIHAN, JUDGE

Does this mean he is still being held on remand?   

 

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« Reply #201 on: August 24, 2012, 01:39:14 PM »

 

https://www.facebook.com/amigoearuba

Amigoe Aruba
August 18 via RSS Graffiti

Plasser in kettle hospital held

ORANGE CITY - The man in the kettle in the Chamber of the Horacio Oduber Hospital peed, was arrested. This happened after the room had a camera installed, which the perpetrator was caught. Two weeks ago, namely alarm beaten on the water in the tube. Users complained about sour tea and ...
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #202 on: August 24, 2012, 04:02:43 PM »

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Let me clarify my post above.  The laugh at the remand--remain in custody until trial--reminded me of it applying to JvdS in Peru and not to your question.  Of course, it might apply to "he who shall not be named," too.   
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« Reply #203 on: August 24, 2012, 11:21:50 PM »

http://trome.pe/actualidad/1460027/noticia-eva-sicario

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Friday August 24, 2012 - 06:35
Eva and Sicario
Our columnist continues with "watchful eye" on "Fefer case."

This owl is a human rights defender and opposition to all forms of violence and abuse, even when those who have been suffering executors of criminal acts and even murder, as the inmates of the prisons. Father Hubert Lanssiers told this columnist a summer morning, while touring the crowded halls Lurigancho prison: "The civilization of a country is measured in the state prison system is." On that scale, the prisons in Peru are among the worst in the world, along with those of Mexico, Venezuela, Brazil, Colombia, Turkey and El Salvador. Maximum security prison in Lima operated as "Piedras fat" or "Castro Castro" are not such. In maximum security prisons in America, prisoners could not have the goodies that had Antauro. iPod, cellular and female visitors every day. Or as Tijero Lucio, who had a cell with marble floors, cable TV and even chef. In "Stones fat", the confessed murderer of businesswoman Myriam Fefer, Alejandro Trujillo Ospina, "Clown", lived a great life with their peers, the murderers of Peru: Joran Van Der Sloot and William Trickett. They played casinos, took pictures on the cell phone of a security guard!
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« Reply #204 on: August 24, 2012, 11:26:57 PM »



https://www.facebook.com/amigoearuba

Amigoe Aruba
August 18 via RSS Graffiti

Plasser in kettle hospital held

ORANGE CITY - The man in the kettle in the Chamber of the Horacio Oduber Hospital peed, was arrested. This happened after the room had a camera installed, which the perpetrator was caught. Two weeks ago, namely alarm beaten on the water in the tube. Users complained about sour tea and ...
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« Reply #205 on: August 24, 2012, 11:48:43 PM »

http://www.amigoe.com/aruba

Google translation:

Several skeletons in a tomb

THURSDAY, AUGUST 23, 2012 7:50

ORANGE CITY - At the cemetery of Cura Cabai during work to unload old tombs, discovered a tomb containing bags of human ...
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WOW too bad they'll never check this out   
Wouldn't they have to check this out, and yes, I understand it is Aruba. But.....wouldn't they need to know?  this makes me sick to my stomach.
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« Reply #206 on: August 24, 2012, 11:55:56 PM »

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Let me clarify my post above.  The laugh at the remand--remain in custody until trial--reminded me of it applying to JvdS in Peru and not to your question.  Of course, it might apply to "he who shall not be named," too.   



 
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« Reply #207 on: August 24, 2012, 11:58:57 PM »

http://www.amigoe.com/aruba

Google translation:

Several skeletons in a tomb

THURSDAY, AUGUST 23, 2012 7:50

ORANGE CITY - At the cemetery of Cura Cabai during work to unload old tombs, discovered a tomb containing bags of human ...
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This is sick.  Has someone been dumping bones instead of proper burials or cremations?

I wonder if they will even attempt any DNA tests.
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« Reply #208 on: August 25, 2012, 12:35:02 AM »

http://www.amigoe.com/aruba

Google translation:

Several skeletons in a tomb

THURSDAY, AUGUST 23, 2012 7:50

ORANGE CITY - At the cemetery of Cura Cabai during work to unload old tombs, discovered a tomb containing bags of human ...
Read more ...



WOW too bad they'll never check this out   
Wouldn't they have to check this out, and yes, I understand it is Aruba. But.....wouldn't they need to know?  this makes me sick to my stomach.


It makes me sick to my stomach too.   

More of the same article from the Amigoe Facebook page.

https://www.facebook.com/amigoearuba

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Amigoe Aruba
22 hours ago via RSS Graffiti

Several skeletons in a tomb

ORANGE CITY - At the cemetery of Cura Cabai during work to unload old tombs, discovered a tomb containing bags with human remains. Each bag appears to be the residue of a person, and to contain up to now, there are twelve pockets. The discovery was made ​​by employees of Volksgezondhe ...
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http://www.24ora.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=51798:12-skelet-sin-identificacion-den-santana-di-cura-cabai&catid=1:local&Itemid=5

Papiamentu translation:

12 skelet without identificacion in cemetery of cura cabai

wednesday, 22 august 2012 22:52

in cemetery of cura cabai have one situation enough fastioso cu have to of atencion. for saca restonan for of cemetery is very fanfaria salubridad publico is haci. all the time the cemetery forget for much time at cura cabai owing to cuminsa achieve life. in the proceso ey owing to come constata cu have as one free for all tumando lugar by of funerarianan cu is immidiately break cemetery of person y saca restonan throw one near. till even they're using one angle for burn restonan human cu is wordo saca for of grafnan. for work grafnan new some funeraria not have none clase of respet for restonan of defuntonan. pesey self now here have alrededor of 12 saco cada uno fill cu remainder of one defunto. esnan cu is encarga cu drechamento y limpieza of cemetery of cura cabai by september year happen owing to succeed place all in one sun cemetery y tapa this. kendenan will come responsabiliza they self cu the asunto here is one question cu still not have contesta pe. seems cu salubridad publico owing to arise for of dream also because netamente the week here they will owing to go haci one inspeccion or inventory of the mortonan bury in the cemetery. the 12 restonan of being human throw in one cemetery open assure none person know more of cual family this is. esnan cu is atende cu limpieza till even owing to come achieve abroad of the cemetery restonan of wesonan cu owing to being saca for of grafnan. is at time the are actual owing to succeed enter for atende cu the cemetery because they have being keri bury eyden.



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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #209 on: August 25, 2012, 02:43:15 AM »



Justice for Natalee!

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #210 on: August 25, 2012, 07:58:29 AM »

http://www.amigoe.com/aruba

Google translation:

Several skeletons in a tomb

THURSDAY, AUGUST 23, 2012 7:50

ORANGE CITY - At the cemetery of Cura Cabai during work to unload old tombs, discovered a tomb containing bags of human ...
Read more ...



WOW too bad they'll never check this out   
Wouldn't they have to check this out, and yes, I understand it is Aruba. But.....wouldn't they need to know?  this makes me sick to my stomach.


I am hoping that some of the local Aruban families with missing loved ones start making a lot of noise to have these remains tested. (I think the Tromp son is still missing?)

But.....this is Aruba Sad
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« Reply #211 on: August 25, 2012, 01:49:15 PM »

http://www.amigoe.com/aruba

Google translation:

Several skeletons in a tomb

THURSDAY, AUGUST 23, 2012 7:50

ORANGE CITY - At the cemetery of Cura Cabai during work to unload old tombs, discovered a tomb containing bags of human ...
Read more ...



WOW too bad they'll never check this out   
Wouldn't they have to check this out, and yes, I understand it is Aruba. But.....wouldn't they need to know?  this makes me sick to my stomach.


I am hoping that some of the local Aruban families with missing loved ones start making a lot of noise to have these remains tested. (I think the Tromp son is still missing?)

But.....this is Aruba Sad

Yes, Vicenzo Tromp is still missing; I'd been thinking about his mother a lot since I read this and wondering what she thinks about it.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #212 on: August 27, 2012, 12:35:49 AM »

16 year old driver hits and kills a 69 year old pedestrian.

 

(WARNING: Pictures at link are very graphic)

http://www.awe24.com/20120825/11658/Chofer_di_16_ana_di_edad_a_dal_un_homber_di_edad_mata_na_Tanki_Leendert

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chofer of 16 year of edad owing to strike one man of edad kill at tanki leendert

1 day happen come across, 25 of august 2012 21:53

seccion: incidente

saturday night owing to enter informe of one accidente enough earnest fast of cafe capri at tanki leendert, at once owing to dirigi tanto police because; ambulance at the sitio. at arrival of the patrol owing to come compronde cu one child of 16 year taba stuur one car chevrolet cavalier color gold a31509 y owing to strike one man of edad. at arrival of ambulance owing to come constata cu the victima all at blood owing to fayece. the victima owing to die instantaneamente at the sitio self. is deal here of francisco r. dijkhoff of 69 year y cu was live at catiri, we is extende we more sincero words of condolencia at famianan of the fayecido. the video y the another fotonan will tey in one instant.

version policial: saturday night, for more or less 9.45, central of police is wordo notifica of one accidente important cu did take lugar on caminda of tanki flip for kibaima, at height of cafe capri at tanki leendert. patruyanan cu is arrive at the sitio is come come across cu the victima on caminda y cu do not give sign of life. according informacion ricibi at the sitio, the victima will owing to leave for of one business in vecindario bayendo probably direccion cas hour ela being atropeya for her car a-31509 (chevrolet cavalier color of oro), maneha for one young of 16 year. ela being deteni for investigacion. according informacion, owing to test the but not owing to constata cu the is baby behind stuur. doctor owing to come at the sitio y owing to constata dead of the victima: francisco ricardo dijkhoff nasi at aruba day 14 of april 1943 live at catiri 19. autoridadnan competente is at the sitio y is investigando for saca afor dicon the accidente here did take lugar. slachtofferhulp of police also is at hospital for sostene the famianan. of part of cuerpo policial is send words of condolencia at the famianan of the fayecido.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #213 on: August 27, 2012, 01:48:55 AM »

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/51950-chofer-di-16-anja-cu-a-dal-mata-bek-den-libertad

Papiamentu translation:

chauffeur of 16 year envolvi in desgracia fateful is back in freedom

sunday, 26 august 2012 12:15

the young of 16 year cu owing to atropeya the peaton francisco "pancho" dijkhoff cu consecuencia fateful, last at tanki leendert is in freedom end. although is one crimen core without rijbewijs (license), tog not owing to see the necesidad for follow detene the young student here. now his parents will have cu carga the consecuencianan for thing they child owing to comete. is investigando now if the child owing to maneha the car cu consentimento of the parents. the declaracion of the young self owing to medio confirma this. all the time the declaracion of the mother y the father is comosifuera they wanted wash hand y show cu the child will owing to coy the car without tell. all the time the investigacion not owing to termina y can wait for accionnan of part of husticia contra esunnan responsible. the young student have 16 year y not was below ; influencia of alcohol. if was so, the problem will was more big pe. fiscal together cu polisnan of trafico owing to place all cos in one balans for so give the young one chens. anything is assure cu the accidente here can owing to wordo evita if the young without rijbewijs not owing to lever caminda cu the car. the victima owing to leave for of his cas y was bayendo at the café just where the car owing to dal'e. the younger without rijbewijs behind stuur owing to tell cu the was core 40 km. the impacto if is proof another because the damage on the car is sample cu the car was coriendo more duro.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #214 on: August 27, 2012, 08:15:06 PM »

Moaly Tromp was also recently killed in a car accident.  This says she didn't have a driver's license either.  The first reports I read about her said she was 20 years old...but if I understand correctly in this article they're saying she was 15.xx
(fixed name MB)

 

http://www.24ora.com/policial-mainmenu-8/52008-dos-accidente-fatal-y-ambos-chofer-sin-rijbewijs

Papiamentu translation:

two accidente fateful y both chauffeur without rijbewijs



monday, 27 august 2012 11:21

the accidentenan fateful cu owing to sosode the weekend here was have two chauffeur without rijbewijs. the chauffeur of 16 anja at tanki leendert dimes not have rijbewijs. the another lady moaly tromp niether have rijbewijs. the accidente cu owing to happen at cruzada of prof. lorentzstraat cu emmastraat was have one young of 15 anja behind stuur. cu this the boss of the departamento of trafico of police owing to show cu although they're haci control intensivo y more still in weekend night tog have the desgracianan here is stay registra. in casonan so where menornan is core car the parents in cierto ocasion is at height cu they child owing to go cu the car. in the accidente fateful assure esey was the caso. also have the accidente where the young of 15 anja was envolvi. here the child was wanted for her father tapa pe. the father owing to show good cla cu the will not tapa nothing y cu the child owing to go cu the car without his conocimento. the coremento of car without rijbewijs is algo earnest because is hendenan cu is lever caminda without conocimento of we leynan. once more have to remarca cu in the accidente fateful at tanki leendert, esun at bubali y esun of emmastraat the chauffeur not had rijbewijs. one of they owing to ocasiona one accidente cu dead, another the chofer self owing to fayece y the of three the chofer not was culpabel but the have 15 anja y not mag of stuur.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #215 on: August 27, 2012, 08:21:37 PM »

I spelled her name wrong, sorry!   (fixed MB)

http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/52006-moaly-tromp-victima-di-accidente-na-bubali-a-fayece

Papiamentu translation:

moaly tromp victima of accidente at bubali owing to fayece

monday, 27 august 2012 08:05

moaly tromp of 20 year that was the victima of the accidente earnest at bubali diadomingo marduga owing to fayece monday marduga at dr horacio oduber hospital. the golpi at his cabez owing to cause his dead. dr. croes owing to constata dead for 7.14 am. the was on machine in cuido intensivo y famianan owing to wordo calling diadomingo nightfall where dokternan owing to notifica cu will less machine because not have speranza more pe. sina self his curazon owing to stay beat y oracionnan owing to wordo haci. finalmente marduga if past owing to fayece in presencia of family y conocirnan. paz at his restonan y forza at the family. the polisnan encarga cu trafico will follow cu the investigacion on the caso lamentable here.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #216 on: August 27, 2012, 08:26:59 PM »

https://www.facebook.com/amigoearuba

Google translation:

Moaly Tromp (19) succumbs to injuries

Moaly Tromp had by firemen and paramedics from the car and was in serious injuries to hospital.

ORANGE CITY - Moaly Tromp (19) early this morning at the hospital succumbed to injuries they sustained in a traffic accident in the night from Saturday to Sunday. She is the second fatality this weekend after Saturday Francisco Ricardo Dijkhoff (69) in Tanki Leendert was killed by a sixteen year old boy. This brings the total number of fatalities this year at 14.
Source: Amigoe Aruba
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #217 on: August 27, 2012, 08:47:29 PM »

http://www.awe24.com/20120827/11673/Comunicado_policial_ta_participa_oficialmente_fayecimiento_di_victima_di

Papiamentu translation:

comunicado policial is participa oficialmente fayecimiento of victima of accidente at bubali

11 hora happen come across, 27 of august 2012 08:34

seccion: incidente

comunicado policial: we tristo duty of informa you cu awemainta, for 07:14 hour, dr. b. croes owing to constata dead (na hospital)

di: noaly d.z. tromp
nasi aruba 16 of oktober 1992
boegoeroei 27-a.

the was envolvi in the accidente important at bubali yesterday marduga y was much important in icu. was teme will worse but yet cu hope cu the will recupera. lastimamente his lesionnan was demasiado important. the was brother muher of one colega of we of kpa cu is j. tromp.

fiscal did take the curpa in beslag for autopsia. at we colega, his family y conosirnan of the victima is bay we more deep sense of pesame.

the is the of two victima fateful of trafico of the weekend behind back y the of 14 victima fateful for her year here.

awe24.com also is uni his self for send words of condolencia at family of the victima.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #218 on: August 29, 2012, 06:15:19 PM »

http://www.awe24.com/20120829/11685/Mientras_pareha_turista_tabata_drumi_den_camber_di_e_hotel_ladron_a_drenta_y

Papiamentu translation:

while pareha tourist was sleep in camber of the hotel, thief owing to enter y steal several pertenencia.

10 hora happen come across, 29 of august 2012 07:42

seccion: incidente

diaranzon morning owing to enter informe of one caso of ladronicia at one camber at divi dutch village, at once owing to dirigi one patrol at the sitio. at arrival of the patrol owing to come compronde cu one pareha tourist kedando at the hotel while they're sleep desconocidonan owing to happen via the balcon enter in the camber y owing to bay cu one i-phone, one camara, one holoshi, us$ 150 cu was in one cartera y also they owing to bay cu 2 package sigaria. this is one mal- experiencia for her tourist y is cause damage at we industry turistico. the investigadornan tecnico owing to stay of happen for take the vingerprintnan cu owing to stay mark.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #219 on: August 29, 2012, 11:16:53 PM »

Makes one wonder if the tourist picked up the wrong local for a one night stand. 
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