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« Reply #440 on: October 08, 2012, 12:45:23 PM »

http://www.nd.nl/artikelen/2012/oktober/08/van-der-sloot-wordt-nu-echt-vader

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Van der Sloot is 'really' father

Again, the rumor that Joran van der Sloot father. The murder suspect Monday in The Telegraph suggests that this time it really is true. He would Peruvian girlfriend Leny at a prison visit without supervision pregnant made​​. His lawyer Maximo Altez says in the newspaper that she was three months pregnant.

The pregnancy would not have been conscious choice. "Leny said she forgot the pill. She wants her Catholic faith no abortion. "When the 25-year-old Van der Sloot father and Leny marries, he can assume the Peruvian nationality and he would still difficult to be extradited to the United States. Peru does not have its own nationals.
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« Reply #441 on: October 08, 2012, 12:52:38 PM »

Don't let it get you too mad, CBB! He is just a  squealing and squirming to his last breath. He enjoys trying to hold power over people's emotions... it's the only thing left. (and even that is waning)

What I find very interesting...

With a flick of a switch - Associated Press releases this report today, authored out of Amsterdam, and roughly every American media outlet runs with it.

ABC/CBS/NBC/NY POST/NATIONAL ENQUIRER - I may have missed some more.

They do this - even after the 2011 Joran muh babay daddy rumors turn out to be false. Joran's shenanigans really should not be news.

His death maybe. It is like they are crafting stuff out of thin air. Are they trying to anger people and ruin their day? I think so.

Rumors --- The New Facts!

I choose to flip it around and be happy over his suffering. Murderers are supposed to suffer. Nobody ruins my day.
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For Natalee and Stephany, whatever it takes.

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« Reply #442 on: October 08, 2012, 01:06:09 PM »

Maybe she came back to get some of Joran's sperm, but this is from last yr.


The woman, Leydi Figueroa, is willing to take a DNA test to prove that Mr Van der Sloot is not her baby’s father, Máximo Altez told Peruvian daily El Comercio.
http://www.rnw.nl/africa/bulletin/joran-van-der-sloot-%E2%80%9Cdoes-not-have-a-child%E2%80%9D




VIDEO HERE:
http://elcomercio.pe/lima/787268/noticia-madre-supuesto-hijo-van-der-sloot-nego-conocer-al-holandes
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« Reply #443 on: October 08, 2012, 01:06:38 PM »

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iXJfLYrCbFWl1FKcjmNC31KtXgqw?docId=4eb947d8688b4b9082bcbc594602e353

Report: Imprisoned Dutch killer impregnates woman
(AP) – 2 hours ago (October 8, 2012)

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"A test has proved" the pregnancy, the paper quoted Van der Sloot as saying.

The woman, identified by the paper only as "Leidi," was said to have become pregnant during an unsupervised visit with Van der Sloot. It was not clear whether that is allowed or possible under Peruvian prison rules.

Media in Peru last year identified a woman named Leydi Figueroa Uceda as Van der Sloot's girlfriend, and said they had conceived a son together, but she denied it. Altez then described the pair as "friends."

In De Telegraaf Van der Sloot said "Leidi" uses the birth control pill but had apparently forgotten to take it and she would not have an abortion due to her Catholic faith. He said he didn't have DNA proof the child is his, but he believes it to be.

Van der Sloot is a self-described liar, having repeatedly confessed to killing U.S. teenager Natalee Holloway, who disappeared in 2005, and later retracting the confessions. He is the last person known to have seen her alive.
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« Reply #444 on: October 08, 2012, 02:18:12 PM »

http://www.nd.nl/artikelen/2012/oktober/08/van-der-sloot-wordt-nu-echt-vader

Google translation

Van der Sloot is 'really' father

Again, the rumor that Joran van der Sloot father. The murder suspect Monday in The Telegraph suggests that this time it really is true. He would Peruvian girlfriend Leny at a prison visit without supervision pregnant made​​. His lawyer Maximo Altez says in the newspaper that she was three months pregnant.

The pregnancy would not have been conscious choice. "Leny said she forgot the pill. She wants her Catholic faith no abortion. "When the 25-year-old Van der Sloot father and Leny marries, he can assume the Peruvian nationality and he would still difficult to be extradited to the United States. Peru does not have its own nationals.
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Thanks for that, grace-land.

I would like to point out... they work in religion and the killing of the unborn into this "breaking news bombshell". It adds to the toxic recipe.

Nothing plays on people's emotions more and sews arguments.

Sewing seeds of great argument, deception, demoralization, and debasement.

Chaos is their business! -Jeff Spicoli

They are the button pushers.


The destroyers.

"By their fruits they are known."

No matter what a person believes in - they should at least be able to identify these things.
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« Reply #445 on: October 08, 2012, 03:18:50 PM »

Carpe, I totally agree with you.

I think it's just a vicious tactic by despicable people, intended only to hurt the good people that lost their beautiful daughters by that monster's hands.

Oops, forgot the pill....convennnnniently right before sex with Frankenturd huh?

Yeah right...

Sickening.   

Karma...I'm counting on you! 

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #446 on: October 08, 2012, 03:23:29 PM »

http://news.lalate.com/2012/10/08/leydi-figueroa-uceda-leidi-joran-van-der-sloot-battle-pregnant-girlfriend-reports/

Leydi Figueroa Uceda, Leidi, Joran Van der Sloot Battle Pregnant Girlfriend Reports
Posted: October 8th, 2012

LOS ANGELES (LALATE) – Leydi Figueroa Uceda (photos below), Leidi, and Joran Van der Sloot are battling pregnant girlfriend reports today. Joran Van der Sloot’s girlfriend is pregnant. But who is Leydi Figueroa Uceda, is her name “Leydi” or “Leidi”, and how long has she been pregnant? As if nothing is ever clear with Joran Van Der Sloot, the revelations today are exceptionally suspect.

Van der Sloot’s lawyer Maximo Altez lawyer told De Telegraaf newspaper today that Joran’s girlfriend is three months pregnant. Altez says that her name is “Leidi” and that she is a resident of Peru.
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But before you believe all those assertions, there is more at play. In January, LALATE reported news that Joran’s girlfriend was already pregnant. In June, news reports claimed that the girl is “Leydi”, not “Leidi”. So is this Joran’s first or second child?
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In January, Peruvian news confirmed that Joran’s girlfriend was visiting Van Der Sloot in prison. She claimed that she was doing “chores” in his cell, cleaning the space, and bringing him candy. Multiple reports confirm that, in addition to her “chores” for Van Der Sloot, the girlfriend has been giving him highly sought after candy. From that same cell, Van Der Sloot has been running snack bar. El Commercio reported that, because of the candy, the snack bar has been “very lucrative” for Van Der Sloot.
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Reports of the January pregnancy spread from Peru to the U.S. “Some local media suggest she may be pregnant. El Commercio was unable to get any response from officials on these claims” reported FOX News. Periodismo En Linea, citing Univision, reported at the time “According to Dutch media, the girlfriend of the alleged murderer of Stephany is a woman who works in the same casino frequented by the victim and now visit frequently.” It adds “Unofficially there is even talk of her pregnancy.”
 
So was Joran’s girlfriend pregnant in January, or is she three months pregnant now in November? Joran is not giving any one straight answer this week.
 
In June, Peruvian news claimed that Joran’s girlfriend is a 22 year old Peruvian woman named Leydi Figueroa Uceda or Lady Figueroa Uceda. Altez then told news that Joran hasn’t had a child with Figueroa.
 
AmericanTV.pe reported at the time that Joran was set to take a DNA test to deny having fathered a child with Figueroa. “Maximum Altez, former lawyer of Joran Van der Sloot, confessed murderer of Stephany Flores Ramirez, denied that the Dutch have a child with a young Peruvian named Lady Uceda Figueroa, 22.”
 
Then in June, PrimeurJagers.nl reported that the Peruvian jail denied Figueroa ever visiting the facility. “The Peruvian prison (INPE) said in a press release officially denied that it ever Leydi Figueroa in prison for Van der Sloot has been visited”. But lawyers for Stephany Flores disputed the same. “The lawyer for the murdered Stephany Flores claimed a certain Leydi Carol Figueroa Uceda regularly visited Joran.” Additionally, another report claimed the female was visiting a different inmate, not Joran. “According to INPE inmate Edgar Robinson says that he has a relationship with Leydi.”
 
Today, Joran’s attorney told news “A test has proved” that a girlfriend is pregnant with Joran’s baby, and in her third trimester. But the attorney claims that woman’s name is Leidi, not “Leydi”. Leydi Figueroa Uceda has yet to comment about today’s developments.
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« Reply #447 on: October 08, 2012, 03:31:52 PM »

Don't let it get you too mad, CBB! He is just a  squealing and squirming to his last breath. He enjoys trying to hold power over people's emotions... it's the only thing left. (and even that is waning)

What I find very interesting...

With a flick of a switch - Associated Press releases this report today, authored out of Amsterdam, and roughly every American media outlet runs with it.

ABC/CBS/NBC/NY POST/NATIONAL ENQUIRER - I may have missed some more.

They do this - even after the 2011 Joran muh babay daddy rumors turn out to be false. Joran's shenanigans really should not be news.

His death maybe. It is like they are crafting stuff out of thin air. Are they trying to anger people and ruin their day? I think so.

Rumors --- The New Facts!

I choose to flip it around and be happy over his suffering. Murderers are supposed to suffer. Nobody ruins my day.


Bold by me!  His death, that is exactly what I was hoping before I read this on Fox.  Don't young ladies have any morals anymore?  This guy is scrum and he screws around in prison and is allowed to pro-create?  Someone needs to be paid off to end this SOB's life!! JMO.
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« Reply #448 on: October 08, 2012, 04:17:28 PM »

The thought of someone letting Urine impregnate her creeps me out!  ewwww
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« Reply #449 on: October 08, 2012, 05:21:23 PM »

http://abcnews.go.com/News/joran-van-der-sloots-lawyer-denies-woman-pregnant/story?id=17426249

Joran Van Der Sloot's Lawyer Denies He Got Woman Pregnant in Prison
MEXICO CITY, Oct. 8, 2012

The lawyer representing Joran van der Sloot today shot down reports that the Dutch playboy who is suspected of killing Natalee Holloway had impregnated a Peruvian woman during a conjugal visit in his Peruvian prison.
 
Van der Sloot told Dutch newspaper, De Telegraaf, that a woman identified only as "Leidi" was pregnant with his child.
 
"A test has proved" the pregnancy, he told the paper.

But van der Sloot's lawyer, Maximo Altez, told ABC News the reports are not true and the woman, whose real name he said is Carol Figueroa Uceda, told him she was not pregnant.
 
Whether the woman is pregnant or not, it came as a surprise to many the van der Sloot, convicted of killer a Peruvian woman and suspected of killing American Natalee Holloway, is granted conjugal visits in his prison.
 
Altez blamed the pregnancy rumors on his own client and said De Telegraaf had never contacted the lawyer directly. 
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« Reply #450 on: October 08, 2012, 05:22:11 PM »

The thought of someone letting Urine impregnate her creeps me out!  ewwww

Me, too!!! I can't get over this.....disgusting!!

What's wrong with that woman?
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« Reply #451 on: October 08, 2012, 05:55:13 PM »

http://fandaily.info/news/leydi-figueroa-uceda-is-joran-van-der-sloots-pregnant-girlfriend-photos/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=leydi-figueroa-uceda-is-joran-van-der-sloots-pregnant-girlfriend-photos

Denied last July.  I think it's all BS.
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« Reply #452 on: October 08, 2012, 06:42:21 PM »



I call BS too.   I think Joran just wanted some attention.   He has been out of
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« Reply #453 on: October 09, 2012, 12:10:41 AM »

Carpe, I totally agree with you.

I think it's just a vicious tactic by despicable people, intended only to hurt the good people that lost their beautiful daughters by that monster's hands.

Oops, forgot the pill....convennnnniently right before sex with Frankenturd huh?

Yeah right...

Sickening.   

Karma...I'm counting on you! 

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No you didn't, texasmom! FRANKENTURD? ROFLMAO!! Oh, that's the first time I've laughed all day!! THANK YOU!!   
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« Reply #454 on: October 09, 2012, 12:12:28 AM »


hu-uh..... it's FRANKENTURD!    
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« Reply #455 on: October 09, 2012, 12:16:50 AM »

Don't let it get you too mad, CBB! He is just a  squealing and squirming to his last breath. He enjoys trying to hold power over people's emotions... it's the only thing left. (and even that is waning)

What I find very interesting...

With a flick of a switch - Associated Press releases this report today, authored out of Amsterdam, and roughly every American media outlet runs with it.

ABC/CBS/NBC/NY POST/NATIONAL ENQUIRER - I may have missed some more.

They do this - even after the 2011 Joran muh babay daddy rumors turn out to be false. Joran's shenanigans really should not be news.

His death maybe. It is like they are crafting stuff out of thin air. Are they trying to anger people and ruin their day? I think so.

Rumors --- The New Facts!

I choose to flip it around and be happy over his suffering. Murderers are supposed to suffer. Nobody ruins my day.


Agreed, Carpe! Yeah, I surely do want his death carried by all the news outlets and as quickly as possible after the event. I wouldn't want to miss a minute!
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« Reply #456 on: October 09, 2012, 12:24:50 AM »

Don't let it get you too mad, CBB! He is just a  squealing and squirming to his last breath. He enjoys trying to hold power over people's emotions... it's the only thing left. (and even that is waning)

What I find very interesting...

With a flick of a switch - Associated Press releases this report today, authored out of Amsterdam, and roughly every American media outlet runs with it.

ABC/CBS/NBC/NY POST/NATIONAL ENQUIRER - I may have missed some more.

They do this - even after the 2011 Joran muh babay daddy rumors turn out to be false. Joran's shenanigans really should not be news.

His death maybe. It is like they are crafting stuff out of thin air. Are they trying to anger people and ruin their day? I think so.

Rumors --- The New Facts!

I choose to flip it around and be happy over his suffering. Murderers are supposed to suffer. Nobody ruins my day.


Bold by me!  His death, that is exactly what I was hoping before I read this on Fox.  Don't young ladies have any morals anymore?  This guy is scrum and he screws around in prison and is allowed to pro-create?  Someone needs to be paid off to end this SOB's life!! JMO.

Well..... having to be searched for contraband by guards  is hardly MY idea of foreplay, just sayin'. Who the heck goes to a jail for a little action? From the pictures we saw of Joran all she got, if it actually happened at all, is a Wonkey eyed little pickle tickle, anyway. 
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« Reply #457 on: October 09, 2012, 12:26:21 AM »

http://abcnews.go.com/News/joran-van-der-sloots-lawyer-denies-woman-pregnant/story?id=17426249#.UHOk7Jjqllk

Joran Van Der Sloot's Lawyer Denies He Got Woman Pregnant in Prison

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By RUSSELL GOLDMAN (@GoldmanRussell) and JOE GOLDMAN
MEXICO CITY, Oct. 8, 2012

The lawyer representing Joran van der Sloot today shot down reports that the Dutch playboy who is suspected of killing Natalee Holloway had impregnated a Peruvian woman during a conjugal visit in his Peruvian prison.

Van der Sloot told Dutch newspaper, De Telegraaf, that a woman identified only as "Leidi" was pregnant with his child.

"A test has proved" the pregnancy, he told the paper.

But van der Sloot's lawyer, Maximo Altez, told ABC News the reports are not true and the woman, whose real name he said is Carol Figueroa Uceda, told him she was not pregnant.

Whether the woman is pregnant or not, it came as a surprise to many the van der Sloot, convicted of killer a Peruvian woman and suspected of killing American Natalee Holloway, is granted conjugal visits in his prison.

Altez blamed the pregnancy rumors on his own client and said De Telegraaf had never contacted the lawyer directly.

Uceda, however, had been authorized to visit van der Sloot for conjugal visits, he said. Altez said he originally utilized the woman, who had access to the prison, to help him run errands there. Later, he helped make arrangements to grant her permission for conjugal visits with van der Sloot.

Uceda in June 2011 was also rumored to have become pregnant with van der Sloot's child.

 ::snipping2::

Both Altez and American lawyers said van der Sloot could not evade extradition to the U.S., by fathering a Peruvian child or marrying a Peruvian woman. Peru says it will extradite van der Sloot after he has served his prison term there.
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #458 on: October 09, 2012, 12:28:36 AM »

Well, there you go. Thanks, texasmom!   
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« Reply #459 on: October 09, 2012, 12:36:21 AM »

Don't let it get you too mad, CBB! He is just a  squealing and squirming to his last breath. He enjoys trying to hold power over people's emotions... it's the only thing left. (and even that is waning)

What I find very interesting...

With a flick of a switch - Associated Press releases this report today, authored out of Amsterdam, and roughly every American media outlet runs with it.

ABC/CBS/NBC/NY POST/NATIONAL ENQUIRER - I may have missed some more.

They do this - even after the 2011 Joran muh babay daddy rumors turn out to be false. Joran's shenanigans really should not be news.

His death maybe. It is like they are crafting stuff out of thin air. Are they trying to anger people and ruin their day? I think so.

Rumors --- The New Facts!

I choose to flip it around and be happy over his suffering. Murderers are supposed to suffer. Nobody ruins my day.


Bold by me!  His death, that is exactly what I was hoping before I read this on Fox.  Don't young ladies have any morals anymore?  This guy is scrum and he screws around in prison and is allowed to pro-create?  Someone needs to be paid off to end this SOB's life!! JMO.

Well..... having to be searched for contraband by guards  is hardly MY idea of foreplay, just sayin'. Who the heck goes to a jail for a little action? From the pictures we saw of Joran all she got, if it actually happened at all, is a Wonkey eyed little pickle tickle, anyway. 

Ain't that the truth!   Monkey Devil!




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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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