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ARUBA: It's all about Natalee...we won't give up!


« Reply #160 on: December 21, 2012, 10:11:35 PM »

Pictures of the search of the septic tank...

http://www.awe24.com/20121220/12915/Team_di_recherche_trahando_masha_duro_mes_riba_caso_asesinato_na_Alto_Vista_nan
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #161 on: December 21, 2012, 10:27:10 PM »

If I understand correctly, guy is asleep on a sofa, car pulls up shoots him twice in the forehead...he's dead.

 

http://www.awe24.com/20121218/12906/UPDATE_Na_Sint_Maartenstraat_homber_drumi_riba_sofa_a_ser_dispara_2_tiro_den

Papiamentu translation:

update, at sint maartenstraat man sleep on sofa owing to being dispara 2 tiro in forehead

2 day happen come across, 18 of december 2012 23:25

seccion: incidente tuesday night owing to enter informe of cu a owing to being dispara in forehead at one cas at sint maartenstraat, at once owing to dirigi tanto police because; ambulance at the sitio. at arrival of the patrol owing to come compronde cu one car toyota model new cu glasnan dark owing to stop a cu bivak muts dress tapando his cara owing to descend enter y owing to los tiro on one person sleep on sofa. the sospechoso owing to lever car y owing to actuate bay direccion of mainstreet. the victima owing to ricibi 2 tiro in forehead y was seriamente injury, at arrival of ambulance they owing to atende the victima y owing to transporte cu urgencia for centro medico for after bay hospital. his situation is much critico....

update: relaciona cu the tiroteo in caya st. maarten i have end of confirma cu for more or less 00:44 dr. daryanani y dr. croes owing to constata dead of the victima: nicaurio toledo nasi at republica dominicana day 9 of september 1990 live at caya st. maarten 20 of part of kpa y awe24.com we wanted send words of forza y cnsuelo for her famianan of the fayecido. the investigacion will sigi march his caminda.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #162 on: December 21, 2012, 10:28:47 PM »

Well...should have phrased that better!

The car didn't shoot him...but you know what I mean!

 
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #163 on: December 21, 2012, 10:47:04 PM »

http://www.aruba-bb.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=92994

Aruba to spend a record US$35 million in promotion next year

ATA Is Concerned About Recent Crime Wave

December 16th 2012, Aruba.

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ORANJESTAD-Aruba Tourism Authority (ATA) will be investing US$35 million in
promoting the island abroad during 2013, an increase of 7 percent compared to
this year. Ronella Tjin Asjoe, Director of ATA says that the funds for promoting
Aruba abroad has gradually increased over the past years.

Ever since ATA became an independent organization from the government last
year, they have seen substantial advancement in funding in promoting Aruba
abroad. This is attributed to the addition of the room tax, and as of recent the
air ticket charge, which directly goes into the fund of ATA according to their
management plan.

Tjin Asjoe explained that the air ticket charge went into effect on September 1st
2012, but that the extra charge did not had an effect on the number of visitors
to Aruba. Visitor arrivals in the months of September, October, and November
have increased.

ATA is however worried about the recent crime wave effecting mainly the resort
area, as this could tarnish the island image as a safe destination. Past missing
cases of Natalee Holloway and Robyn Gardner still continues to be a challenge
for ATA at present, and are being dealt with accordingly.

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« Reply #164 on: December 22, 2012, 01:57:27 AM »

Well...should have phrased that better!

The car didn't shoot him...but you know what I mean!

 
lol...I was picturing a cartoon car wearing a cowboy hat and pulling a gun.  Smile
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« Reply #165 on: December 22, 2012, 02:40:42 AM »

Well...should have phrased that better!

The car didn't shoot him...but you know what I mean!

 
lol...I was picturing a cartoon car wearing a cowboy hat and pulling a gun.  Smile

 
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #166 on: December 22, 2012, 02:42:26 AM »



Justice for Natalee!

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #167 on: December 22, 2012, 03:08:45 PM »

http://www.aruba-bb.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=92994

Aruba to spend a record US$35 million in promotion next year

ATA Is Concerned About Recent Crime Wave

December 16th 2012, Aruba.

Image

ORANJESTAD-Aruba Tourism Authority (ATA) will be investing US$35 million in
promoting the island abroad during 2013, an increase of 7 percent compared to
this year. Ronella Tjin Asjoe, Director of ATA says that the funds for promoting
Aruba abroad has gradually increased over the past years.

Ever since ATA became an independent organization from the government last
year, they have seen substantial advancement in funding in promoting Aruba
abroad. This is attributed to the addition of the room tax, and as of recent the
air ticket charge, which directly goes into the fund of ATA according to their
management plan.

Tjin Asjoe explained that the air ticket charge went into effect on September 1st
2012, but that the extra charge did not had an effect on the number of visitors
to Aruba. Visitor arrivals in the months of September, October, and November
have increased.

ATA is however worried about the recent crime wave effecting mainly the resort
area, as this could tarnish the island image as a safe destination. Past missing
cases of Natalee Holloway and Robyn Gardner still continues to be a challenge
for ATA at present, and are being dealt with accordingly.

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"ATA Is Concerned About Recent Crime Wave"

This monkey may be a bit confused, but I wasn't aware that the crime wave ever stopped.

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« Reply #168 on: December 22, 2012, 03:14:21 PM »

9 more posts and I will be at a 
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« Reply #169 on: December 23, 2012, 01:46:52 AM »

http://www.amigoe.com/aruba?start=5

Google translation:



Justice remains silent about murder Poentje

SATURDAY, DECEMBER 22, 2012 8:33

ORANGE CITY - It's tomorrow exactly two years ago that the famous television presenter and investigative journalist John 'Poentje' Castro (47) in his own ...
Read more ...

(Article from June about the case)

http://www.amigoe.com/english/114520-new-evidence-in-murder-case-poentje-sent-to-nfi

New evidence in murder case Poentje sent to NFI         
WEDNESDAY, 6 JUNE 2012 15:02
ORANJESTAD — The Public Prosecutor have asked the Dutch Forensic Institute (NFI) to research new evidence in the murder case of Poentje Castro. The Public Prosecutor doesn’t wish to elaborate on the evidence.Apparently this is new evidence besides the Blackberry from Castro that had been researched earlier in the Netherlands. “This evidence hadn’t been sent to the Netherlands before”, spokesperson Ann Angela said before the Amigoe. The Public Prosecutor expects to receive the results in two to three months. On being asked why it had taken so long before the evidence was sent to the Netherlands, Angela replied: “We needed time to place it in a legal framework, to see what was possible from a technical point of view and to formulate the research question.” For instance, an examining magistrate on Aruba is to appoint an expert in the Netherlands who is to research the evidence. Moreover, Angela explained that this evidence came to light during the current investigation. It only became clear later on that this evidence ‘required further research’.

TV-presenter and research journalist Poentje Castro was found dead in his garden on the morning of December 23rd 2010. From the autopsy it appeared he had been shot twice around eleven o’clock the evening before. A Team Large-scale Operation (TGO) was deployed because there were very few leads from the beginning of the investigation. This often happens with serious penal acts (such as murder or kidnapping) when it’s not clear who the perpetrator is. Until now, nobody has been arrested for the murder.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #170 on: December 23, 2012, 03:49:48 AM »



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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #171 on: December 23, 2012, 05:21:07 AM »

http://www.aruba-bb.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=92994

Aruba to spend a record US$35 million in promotion next year

ATA Is Concerned About Recent Crime Wave

December 16th 2012, Aruba.

Image

ORANJESTAD-Aruba Tourism Authority (ATA) will be investing US$35 million in
promoting the island abroad during 2013, an increase of 7 percent compared to
this year. Ronella Tjin Asjoe, Director of ATA says that the funds for promoting
Aruba abroad has gradually increased over the past years.

Ever since ATA became an independent organization from the government last
year, they have seen substantial advancement in funding in promoting Aruba
abroad. This is attributed to the addition of the room tax, and as of recent the
air ticket charge, which directly goes into the fund of ATA according to their
management plan.

Tjin Asjoe explained that the air ticket charge went into effect on September 1st
2012, but that the extra charge did not had an effect on the number of visitors
to Aruba. Visitor arrivals in the months of September, October, and November
have increased.

ATA is however worried about the recent crime wave effecting mainly the resort
area, as this could tarnish the island image as a safe destination. Past missing
cases of Natalee Holloway and Robyn Gardner still continues to be a challenge
for ATA at present, and are being dealt with accordingly.

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Oh man.... that just makes me so angry. Dealt with accordingly? Geez... That's always been the problem. ATA wanted to "deal" with the "problem" rather than resolving it. Stephany would be alive today and Beth would have buried Natalee at home long ago if that had been the objective!   
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« Reply #172 on: December 23, 2012, 06:40:44 AM »

Thinking of Beth as I always do this time of year and the valiant monkeys who have stayed the course for her and Natalee.
Unfortunately Stefany and her family became unnecessary victims!   ::boxingjoran::

Thank you texasmom.  You bring so much to this thread,  and I don't say thank you often enough!    an angelic monkey

Wishing everyone a blessed Christmas and Happy Holidays.   

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« Reply #173 on: December 23, 2012, 01:42:48 PM »

Well...should have phrased that better!

The car didn't shoot him...but you know what I mean!

 

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« Reply #174 on: December 23, 2012, 02:22:09 PM »

http://aruba-daily.com/newspaper/?p=28980

AHATA elects a new Board of Directors for 2013.
Posted by Aruba Daily on December 21st, 2012

Oranjestad – On Wednesday December 19th, AHATA held its third General Assembly of 2012. The assembly was held in the new meeting facilities of the Alhambra Casino and was attended by 34 members. The meeting began with a Chairman’s report given by Fred Hoffmann, Chairman of AHATA and General Manager of the Hyatt Regency, Aruba. Mr. Hoffmann addressed a number of issues and said that one of AHATA’s highest priorities for 2013 will be to focus on safety and security issues.
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Membership elected the following directors by acclamation.
 
< Chairman: Fred Hoffmann, Hyatt Regency Aruba Resort & Casino
< 1st Vice President: Joe Najjar,  La Cabana Beach Racquet Club
< 2nd Vice President: Warren Stanley, De Palm Corporation N.V.
< Secretary: Edgar Roelofs, Manchebo Beach Resort & Spa
< Treasurer: Javier Wolter, Caribbean Mercantile Bank N.V.
< Alejandro Muyale, Tiara Air
< Peter de Hoop, Red Sail Sports
< Ewald Biemans Bucuti & Tara Beach Resort
< Paul Gielen, Renaissance Aruba Resort & Casino
< Alex Nieuwmeyer, Divi Resorts
< Richard Roy, Westin Resort & Casino
< Tom Calame, Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino
< Patricia Perrone, Holiday Inn Resort Aruba
< Jesus Cardoso, Occidental Grand Aruba
< Raymond Habibe, Radisson Aruba Resort, Casino & Spa



WHY JESUS CARDOSO WOULD HELP FINANCE/HIRE CREMER law firm FOR KALPOES LAWSUIT AGAINST DR. PHIL

PRESIDENT OF ARUBA HOTEL SECURITY FOUNDATION
BOARD OF DIRECTOR OF AHATA
GENERAL MANAGER OF OCCIDENTAL GRAND ARUBA

Jesus Cardoso, President of the Aruba Hotel Security Foundation (AHSF) co-financed by the course, explains why. "There is a chance that hotels be held liable should it go wrong. It will therefore be found where a legal structure to protect the hotels.
"Another problem is lack of money. AHSF namely to establish such a separate organization than the use of lifeguards will govern. This requires more funds to be recruited, says Cardoso. He says the two drowning cases regrettable. Not long ago there were in his way even lifeguards by the popular beach resorts were watching. The reason why these are no longer there, do not Cardoso.
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Resort General Manager Jesus Cardoso-González


http://www.ahata.com/AboutUs/BoardOfDirectors.aspx
Jesus Cardoso-Gonzalez - General Manager Occidental Grand Aruba
on the Board of Directors for AHATA


Occidental Hotels
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Netherlands

Cremer represented Hotel Royal Playacar,Which is owned by Occidental Hotel Management,which owns the Occidental Grand Aruba!
 
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« Reply #175 on: December 23, 2012, 02:27:30 PM »

OCCIDENTAL HOTELS MANAGEMENT
Edmund J. Siegert, Chicago, IL, (Cremer Kopon Shaughnessy & Spina) of the Illinois bar, admitted pro hac vice, argued the cause for appellant Hotel Royal Playacar, S.A. de C.V. (McDermott & McGee, attorneys;  Thomas A. Wester, Milburn, and Joshua D. Yeager (Cremer, Kopon, Shaughnessy & Spina) of the Illinois bar, admitted pro hac vice, on the brief
 
Occidental Grand Aruba
http://www.occidentalhotels.com/occidental/DestinationAruba.asp


The Americana became the Allegro Resort and now operates under the name of Occidental Grand Aruba; the Sheraton was renamed the Aruba Grand before undergoing a true metamorphosis: it is now a part of the prestigious Riu Palace.
http://www.historiadiaruba.aw/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=24&Itemid=39&lang=en

Allergro is where the two Security guards that DEEPAK AND SATISH IDEINTFIED as being the ones who were with Natalee




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« Reply #176 on: December 23, 2012, 02:30:10 PM »


Edit to fix image.  Missing bracket.  MB
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« Reply #178 on: December 23, 2012, 02:48:51 PM »




Miss Piggy and I have a professional acting relationship. I act like a profressional, and she acts like we're having a relationship.

Life's fun when you're having flies is all I know.

 

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« Reply #179 on: December 23, 2012, 05:12:14 PM »

OCCIDENTAL HOTELS MANAGEMENT
Edmund J. Siegert, Chicago, IL, (Cremer Kopon Shaughnessy & Spina) of the Illinois bar, admitted pro hac vice, argued the cause for appellant Hotel Royal Playacar, S.A. de C.V. (McDermott & McGee, attorneys;  Thomas A. Wester, Milburn, and Joshua D. Yeager (Cremer, Kopon, Shaughnessy & Spina) of the Illinois bar, admitted pro hac vice, on the brief
 
Occidental Grand Aruba
http://www.occidentalhotels.com/occidental/DestinationAruba.asp


The Americana became the Allegro Resort and now operates under the name of Occidental Grand Aruba; the Sheraton was renamed the Aruba Grand before undergoing a true metamorphosis: it is now a part of the prestigious Riu Palace.
http://www.historiadiaruba.aw/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=24&Itemid=39&lang=en

Allergro is where the two Security guards that DEEPAK AND SATISH IDEINTFIED as being the ones who were with Natalee







Well, that certainly explains the Kalpoe/Chicago connection. Hope Phil can show connection.
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