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« Reply #240 on: January 03, 2013, 12:30:30 AM »

http://www.amigoe.com/aruba?start=5

Google translation:

Lack of money coming Neck Developer lifeguards on beaches
SUNDAY, 30 DECEMBER 2012 09:00
ORANGE CITY - Aruba still has no professional lifeguards directly can offer assistance to swimmers in distress at sea. Reason is that Aruba (yet) organization responsible ...
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« Reply #241 on: January 03, 2013, 12:34:47 AM »

http://www.amigoe.com/aruba/141243-vervallen-bushiri-hotel-direct-afzetten-en-saneren-vanwege-asbestgevaar

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'Expired Bushiri hotel directly depositing and remediation because of asbestos danger'         

SUNDAY, 30 DECEMBER 2012 09:00


The former Bushiri hotel has not only weathered asbestos roof, but also in the walls. Pieces that are in addition to the ground.

ORANGE CITY - The expiry Bushiri hotel is a danger to the public and the environment, because some asbestos sheets in it that are quite weathered or in pieces on the ground. Not only the roof consists of the carcinogen, but also the walls. "In the Netherlands, this would be a huge problem."

By our reporter

Sharina Henriquez

At the word is Jan Horyon. He's with his family in Aruba for vacation, but a round of professional interest on the island made. He did so with knowledge Wim Schreiber, who for twelve years a case to Aruba in person protective clothing and equipment. Horyon owns the eponymous family business in Eindhoven that specializes in asbestos removal, monitoring, - transport and other issues in this area. Originally a demolition company, but he says: "So I soon came into contact with asbestos, now about 23, 24 years ago." The company has since grown ever going proficient in asbestos area, was the first company certified in this area in the Netherlands and Jan Horyon is home of the first graduate asbestos expert from Netherlands called. His business sits at the table with ministries and regularly has to deal with complex remediation problems, as is the case in the Utrecht Kanaleneiland where an entire neighborhood was evacuated after asbestos discovery this year. "We are offering homes to cleaning, but also bring together with other parties in map where it went wrong."

The world appears small: he also knows asbestos expert Heniek Heijlen TNO recently at the request of the Aruban government sent to our island. That was a quick visit in October for the asbestos problem in a number of schools including Mon Plaisir. Heijlen turns to March of this year in the service to have been Horyon.

Government responsible

But Horyon is not for his work, but for vacation. Yet he saw during a walk on the island things that him and his wife Sandrine (she also works in the company) are reminiscent of the situation that 20-25 years ago in the Netherlands took place. As therefore the former Bushiri hotel on the LG Smith Boulevard. Although there is a guard, anyone so inwardly, in his experience. "It is publicly available, people are sure to fish, I understand that there were tramps first time. What I have understood is that of the government and that this therefore responsible. Here lies exposed asbestos and it is everywhere. If here the wind blows, blowing the fibers everywhere. This is not safe. In the Netherlands, the government owner directly moons for something to do. To give an example, recently I had a private client that asbestos in his garden and there was 5000 euro fine. "

According to the specialist asbestos must first hotel in a safe situation to be able to demolish. "Let alone that you so late, that anyone can walk in it. It must be deposited as soon as possible removed. Not only the roof so, but also the walls, because they also contain asbestos. Apart from all the pieces that are on the ground. "

Horyon informed about how Aruba dealing with asbestos and that hardly anything is settled, let alone standards. He also knows that the Aruban government has argued that - apart from the refinery in San Nicolas and the water - there is no significant risk areas in terms of asbestos. "But how can you call if not even asbestos victims registered?"

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« Reply #242 on: January 03, 2013, 12:47:36 AM »

http://www.amigoe.com/aruba?start=5

Google translation:

Lack of money coming Neck Developer lifeguards on beaches
SUNDAY, 30 DECEMBER 2012 09:00
ORANGE CITY - Aruba still has no professional lifeguards directly can offer assistance to swimmers in distress at sea. Reason is that Aruba (yet) organization responsible ...
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http://www.amigoe.com/english/141338-arrival-of-lifeguards-on-hold-due-to-lack-of-money


Arrival of lifeguards on hold due to lack of money
         

TUESDAY, 1 JANUARY 2013 12:29

ORANJESTAD — There are no professional lifeguards on Aruba to offer immediate help to swimmers in trouble because the island is yet to set up an organization that is responsible for these social workers. Statistics from the Directorate of Health show that such organization is necessary considering the number of deaths by drowning increased each year between 1998 and 2010. However, the plans are not getting off the ground due to lack of money and problems with certification.

By our reporter Mirte de Rozario

“Therefore, we argue for an Aruban institute of lifesavers that will carry the work”, said Hendrik Gabriela. Wendy Laclé and he recently obtained their bachelor in Sports, Management and Business at the Caribbean University of Aruba (CUA). One of their study included organizing an internationally recognized Open Water Life Guard Course. In their extended essay they conclude that various beaches where swimmers had been in trouble in the past lack adequate facilities to prevent death by drowning. Apparently the government and the hotels fail to take the necessary measures. “In other words, lifeguards are not always on the beach to offer people immediate help because the island is yet to decide who will pay these lifeguards and be responsible for their training and deployment.”

The need for lifeguards is substantiated by statistics from the Directorate of Health, which Gabriela and Laclé included in their extended essay. Between 1998 and 2004 the number of deaths by drowning or near drowning fluctuated between three and six. The Directorate of Health reported nine cases in 2005 and in the following three years, seven cases per year. The number of deaths by drowning dropped to four in 2009 and a remarkable peak of fourteen was registered in 2010. The statistics of 2011 and 2012 are listed in the chart from the Directorate of Health.

Old beach posts

“Although we know there were people who had needed help at sea, the locations in question Baby Beach, Mangel Halto, Arashi or Eagle still lack adequate facilities”, said Gabriela. Eagle Beach still has several old beach posts, he said. “A contractor could easily restore these.” However, these beach posts whereby social workers run into the sea ‘as in the former TV-series Baywatch’ no longer fit within the new international standard method of lifeguards, he explained. “Nowadays there’s a tower on the beach and jet ski’s in the water manned by two persons. The tower instructs the driver of the jet ski while the other person helps the victim in the water.” He also mentioned the warning signs at Baby Beach. “The government had had these signs put up quickly owing to circumstances (death by drowning in August, (editorial office)) but failed to consider the right places for the signs or the international rules as regards the warning text.” According to Gabriela, the signs were placed too far in the water, almost where someone could drown and the warming text doesn’t meet the international guidelines. “Therefore, Baby Beach doesn’t have adequate measures to prevent death by drowning.”

Finances

Money is one of the problems why the lifeguards aren’t on the beaches, said Gabriela. “The money was promised and must be made available through Aruba Marina Park Foundation but this hasn’t been done yet. Without money we can’t organize courses, find participants to follow these courses or pay them to work as professional lifeguards.”  Minister Otmar Oduber already confirmed in August that money is a problem when he stated before the Amigoe that the introduction of safety facilities on beaches is stuck due to bureaucracy. The financing of lifeguards must come from the Tourism Product Enhancement Fund (TPEF) but that still wasn’t arranged several months ago.

Certification

The responsibility of lifeguards wasn’t arranged either, according to Oduber. Gabriela and Laclé also mentioned this in their extended essay. Thanks to Aruba Hotel Security Foundation (AHSF) 24 beach guards were trained and certified in 2010, the year with the remarkable peak of fourteen deaths by drowning. However, these twenty-four were never deployed as beach guard. Gabriela explained that one can train and certify people but the latter are to keep their knowledge up to date and recertify after two years. A certified lifeguard is to swim the required number of hours and to demonstrate this.” According to Gabriela, this group of 24 beach guards is to be recertified. “Once there’s a national institute that can evaluate and recognize this certification by working together with an international organization for lifeguards, the responsibility of the lifeguards can be arranged as well.” Gabriela thinks hotels will then consider deploying lifeguards.
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« Reply #243 on: January 03, 2013, 01:47:35 AM »



Justice for Natalee!

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« Reply #244 on: January 03, 2013, 07:35:14 PM »

http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/57992-dos-huez-ta-keha-abogado-john-zara-riba-su-comportacion-

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two huez is complain advocate john zara on his comportacion

wednesday, 02 january 2013 20:32

two huez at corte owing to cuestiona comportacion of advocate john zara. esey nifica cu they owing to ask castigo pe where the not can go funciona because; advocate assure in corte. this have atencion also of orden of advocate. owing to busca as of achieve john zara self because; also deken but both does not publicidad cu the asunto here. wanted trate without dune mucho atencion in media or achieve publicidad of dje. so self owing to splica both cu the news is conoci y not can go stay without publica this because they wanted as scondi or internamente. john zara owing to apela the decision of huez. the comportacion of the advocate is thing is wordo cuestiona. have various cos cu huez have very atencion pe at the momentonan here. one of they're his bufete cu is office of one sospechoso in caso of trafico illegal of person. according informacion extra oficial the sospechoso is exigi for have acceso in the file of cualkier cliente of the advocate. this is algo confidencial cual none advocate can permiti. apparently close advocate mr john zara this do not the caso. also one another situation cu is wordo cuestiona is the tratamento of one caso caminda the advocate zara owing to haci one peticion at huez. hour cu owing to deny his peticion cu the cliente in sitting-room of corte, the advocate owing to leave go y tell huez cu is they cuenta y see con they will haci cu the cliente of dje. owing to leave lagando the cliente for his cuenta close the hueznan. the type of comportacionnan here is cosnan cu today have the advocate in one situation where the have to owing to apela at conseho of supervision for her decision cu two huez of corte did take at aruba. the amistad much close cu hendenan sospechoso in casonan earnest y doubtful is still is thing can have the imagen of the advocate in the situation actual. once more have to remarca cu owing to deal of achieve the version of advocate mr john zara y deken mr dello gomez y both owing to prefera of mantene silencio on the caso. kiermen is wait for cu hour the publicacion here leave not core come cuestiona the news because owing to achieve all chens of world for can owing to give they near of medaya. the caso here assure is uno much earnest y is basa on the comportacion of the own advocate. till con far apelacion will help is algo cu in the proximo dianan we fast will hear of dje.


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« Reply #245 on: January 03, 2013, 07:44:27 PM »

http://arubaherald.com/911/3988-local-drug-traffickers-heading-to-canada-detained-by-airport-customs.html

Local drug traffickers heading to Canada detained by Airport Customs         
Wednesday, 02 January 2013 12:56
 
Authorities arrested five Arubans heading to Toronto with drugs on an Air Canada flight over the holidays. The men and women were traveling to Canada with different suitcases with hidden compartments in which the drugs were hidden.

One woman of last name "A" was traveling with her six-year-old child. Customs also arrested one man "P" and one woman "Q", who are suspected of heading the drug trafficking ring, as well as woman "D" and a man "B".
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« Reply #246 on: January 03, 2013, 08:02:31 PM »

http://www.awe24.com/20130103/13072/Huescomisario_a_prolonga_detencion_di_sospechosonan_cu_kier_a_trafica_droga_pa

huescomisario owing to prolonga detencion of sospechosonan cu wanted owing to trafica drugs for canada

8 hora happen come across, 3 of january 2013 12:04

seccion: incidente

diahuebs morning huescomisario owing to revisa the documentonan of the investigacion relaciona cu the attempt of trafica drugs for canada, the sospechosonan self owing to being deteni after of owing to aborda the plane owing to present some oficial of aduana cu owing to descend the sospechosonan for of the plane y owing to detene they after of cu owing to descubri drugs in one bom false of they trunk. after of owing to revisa the documentonan the huescomisario owing to dicidi of prolonga the detencion of the 5 sospechosonan.



(I only see pictures of 3 of them)
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« Reply #247 on: January 03, 2013, 08:08:12 PM »

From the comments of a 24ora article about the arrests...no idea if the names are correct or not. 

http://www.24ora.com/local-mainmenu-5/57972-douane-aeropuerto-a-desmantela-banda-local-di-droga-pa-canada

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D=Dania
B=Boekhoudt
A=Arends
P=Paskel
Q=Quandt

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« Reply #248 on: January 04, 2013, 01:23:20 AM »

http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/21196688/__Van_der_Eem_aangehouden__.html

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Fri January 4, 2013, 05:30
Van der Eem held by Bart Mos


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OOSTERBEEK - The police on Monday arrested eight Patrick van der Eem. He is suspected of a spectacular break-in Oosterbeek, Gelderland. This report sources justice.

Van der Eem (39) was four years ago, famous for his role in a broadcast of Peter R. de Vries, which he in his car Joran van der Sloot with a hidden camera elicited statements about the murder of American Natalee Holloway.

In the early morning of New Year's Eve, he and two others arrested in Wageningen. Shortly before they ram raid would have committed to the ski shop Ski lodge in Oosterbeek. Earlier this year, even though a ram raid perpetrated on Skihut.
Read more in The Telegraph today.
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« Reply #249 on: January 04, 2013, 01:47:01 AM »

Just a brief clarification for the article above.

The title is "Van der Eem held"
The reporter is Bart Mos.  Mos is not holding him...

 
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« Reply #250 on: January 04, 2013, 04:30:23 AM »



Justice for Natalee! 

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« Reply #251 on: January 04, 2013, 08:53:51 AM »

Just a brief clarification for the article above.

The title is "Van der Eem held"
The reporter is Bart Mos.  Mos is not holding him...

 


Thank you for the clarification. 

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« Reply #252 on: January 05, 2013, 08:53:56 AM »

http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/21196688/__Van_der_Eem_aangehouden__.html

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Fri January 4, 2013, 05:30
Van der Eem held by Bart Mos


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OOSTERBEEK - The police on Monday arrested eight Patrick van der Eem. He is suspected of a spectacular break-in Oosterbeek, Gelderland. This report sources justice.

Van der Eem (39) was four years ago, famous for his role in a broadcast of Peter R. de Vries, which he in his car Joran van der Sloot with a hidden camera elicited statements about the murder of American Natalee Holloway.

In the early morning of New Year's Eve, he and two others arrested in Wageningen. Shortly before they ram raid would have committed to the ski shop Ski lodge in Oosterbeek. Earlier this year, even though a ram raid perpetrated on Skihut.
Read more in The Telegraph today.


I always knew this guy was a POS.
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« Reply #253 on: January 05, 2013, 10:20:53 AM »

http://www.gelderlander.nl/algemeen/binnenland/patrick-van-der-eem-vast-voor-ramkraak-1.3591427

Patrick van der Eem fixed for ram raid '

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OOSTERBEEK - One of the men suspected of the ram raid clothing store in the Ski lodge in Oosterbeek in the night from Sunday to Monday, Patrick van der Eem.
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Van der Eem, who lives in Arnhem, together with a 34-year Hilver Summer and a 38-year old man from Spijk arrested at the height of Kievitsdel in Doorwerth. A witness had seen the three at half past three overnight burglaries in the Ski lodge. He called the police. At that time there were cops on the square. Who have directly in pursuit and colleagues in Wageningen warned. Who are driven to meet the suspects.

In another car, which the defendants had parked in Oosterbeek-Low, jackets and scarves are found which are stolen by the Skihut. That store was earlier this year even though the target of a ram raid.


The three suspects are still being held.
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« Reply #254 on: January 06, 2013, 02:28:20 AM »

http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/21196688/__Van_der_Eem_aangehouden__.html

Google translation

Fri January 4, 2013, 05:30
Van der Eem held by Bart Mos


Foto: ANP

OOSTERBEEK - The police on Monday arrested eight Patrick van der Eem. He is suspected of a spectacular break-in Oosterbeek, Gelderland. This report sources justice.

Van der Eem (39) was four years ago, famous for his role in a broadcast of Peter R. de Vries, which he in his car Joran van der Sloot with a hidden camera elicited statements about the murder of American Natalee Holloway.

In the early morning of New Year's Eve, he and two others arrested in Wageningen. Shortly before they ram raid would have committed to the ski shop Ski lodge in Oosterbeek. Earlier this year, even though a ram raid perpetrated on Skihut.
Read more in The Telegraph today.


I always knew this guy was a POS.

Yes... and the subtle tip off for me was when he rearranged his girlfriend's knee caps with a crow bar! That is one wicked dude. That was his GIRLFRIEND - just imagine what he does to people he doesn't like!!!! If he was smart, he would have made good with the Natalee story and ridden quietly off into the background. Unfortunately, stupid can't be fixed.
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« Reply #255 on: January 06, 2013, 03:08:29 AM »

I always had a gut feeling that he got Poentje nailed. Patrick is the type of guy to wait and get it done, too. To him, imo, it is simply business.
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« Reply #256 on: January 06, 2013, 03:17:53 AM »

I always had a gut feeling that he got Poentje nailed. Peter is the type of guy to wait and get it done, too. To him, imo, it is simply business.

I meant, Patrick. Not Peter!

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« Reply #257 on: January 07, 2013, 12:29:23 AM »

http://www.amigoe.com/english/141488-2013-will-be-an-even-more-difficult-year

‘2013 will be an even more difficult year’       
Thursday, 3 January 2013 11:51 

ORANJESTAD — Parliamentarian Booshi Wever foresees that 2013 will be an even more difficult year. He incites the people to be alert because elections will be held this year. “The party in power together with the independent press will attempt to give a rosy picture of how things are in order to win the elections.”His message is therefore: don’t buy that and there is a serious alternative, namely UPP. Wever recently founded his party. It is unknown who is on the electoral list, apart from Wever. In his New Year’s speech, Wever looked back on the past year. According to him, 2012 had already been a difficult year for many citizens with more crime, unsafe traffic, high living costs, unemployment, lack of social attention and health care.
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« Reply #258 on: January 07, 2013, 02:27:17 AM »


JUSTICE FOR NATALEE AND STEPHANY!

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