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Topic: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 - 8/16/13 (Read 500062 times)
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Justice for Natalee!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
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There was talk of reassigning to a new judge but I guess that won't happen. Not sure it matters
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Thanks Klaas!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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the clock is ticking. . .
God bless Natalee and her loved ones.
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
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Quote from: klaasend on March 28, 2013, 09:14:43 PM
There was talk of reassigning to a new judge but I guess that won't happen. Not sure it matters
With all the delays, maybe there's concern the judge will pass away from old age...
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Quote from: klaasend on March 16, 2013, 11:02:02 PM
Sounds to me like there are prisoners that would kill Joran for a small amount of money
Probably some would do it for fun!
Doesn't sound like he is living like a king after all.
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Quote from: grace-land on March 19, 2013, 01:58:54 PM
http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1013/Buitenland/article/detail/3411966/2013/03/19/Joran-van-der-Sloot-weer-terug-naar-oude-cel.dhtml
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"Joran van der Sloot back to old cell '
By Dolf Hendriks
03/13/19 - 16:54
Joran van der Sloot goes back to his old cell. The Peruvian prison INPE has authority to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs announced that it is safe again. This reports the news agency Novum.
The murderer of Peruvian student Stephany Flores was earlier this week moved to another residence, because fellow detainees had been paid to Van der Sloot to kill.
It is not clear why the danger has passed now
.
According Maximo Altez, the lawyer for Van der Sloot, the threats came from the pavilion where his old cell belongs. Saturday Altez said on this matter by the ANP, "He's in a cell with three people. But occasionally he goes outside to ventilate or activities. On one of those moments prisoners approached him. They are murderers and he's a white man and so he by them as money. "
::snipping2::
Heh, heh
If they want him, they will get him. He's just a can of lighter fluid away at any given time.
Doncha know he is scared witless 24/7.
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Quote from: texasmom on March 23, 2013, 11:31:19 AM
http://www.caribbean-queen.com/i-am-a-caribbean-queen-caribbean-queen-store-opening-highlights-fashion-arts-and-community/caribbean-queen-opening-night-the-guests-008-2/
Well, now we know where Joran gets his excessively hairy arms!
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
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March 29, 2013, 11:33:59 AM »
Did I wake up on the wrong side of the bed or something this morning?
Without punitive damages, Kalpoes are not looking at very much in any event and most likely having to pay Dr Phil's attorney fees and so forth.
At this rate, they are going to be in Old Folks Home before it even gets to trial. Deepak likely to need a walker to take the witness stand.
I wonder what happens when they are no longer receiving funding for their attorney. Do they have enough sense to realize they have been used? Not the brightest, those two.
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JUSTICE FOR NATALEE AND STEPHANY!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
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http://www.volkskrant.nl/vk/nl/2686/Binnenland/article/detail/3418666/2013/04/02/Joran-van-der-Sloot-wil-zaak-hoger-beroep-bijwonen.dhtml
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Joran van der Sloot would issue an appeal to attend
Edited by: admin - 02/04/13, 00:38 - Source: Reuters
The appeal of Joran van der Sloot in Peru is in June
. Although it is not common that the detainee himself at this sitting, Van der Sloot made an application to join can be. Joran van der Sloot has announced that the ANP, through his lawyer Máximo Altez. .
Van der Sloot is that he should stand trial for manslaughter and not murder because he Stephany Flores not premeditated would have slain. It was a reaction after "much accumulated frustration and grief after the death of my father in 2010," he says.
repentance
Van der Sloot is hoping to appeal to substantial sentence. ::snipping2::
Another thing that is still running, the request for the whole process about to do for the Inter-American Court of Human Rights of the Organization of American States. Van der Sloot maintains that his arrest was illegal in Chile. It may take several years before the Court ruling.
marry
Van der Sloot admits that he is going to marry his girlfriend Leidy and that the Director of the Piedras Gordas prison, where he is, there consented to. He must arrange for this paper and expect it in a few months time comes.
He also in August of 2012 had a visit from his mother. The American Mary Hamer still pay his legal fees. But him sitting there in his three Dutch prison. That he sees the visit of the Dutch embassy.
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
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http://valentijnvandersloot.com/
(Edit to fix link. MB)
Valentijn van der Sloot
https://plus.google.com/109847627521248084045/posts
https://plus.google.com/116667903278729334501/posts
http://nchchonors.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Vandersloot-Valentijn-SIRP-Final-Paper.pdf
Valentijn van der Sloot
HS103B paper
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Valentijn
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Valentijn
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.211535205523340.57111.146284632048398&type=3
http://klout.com/ValentijnHere
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Quote from: grace-land on April 01, 2013, 07:11:29 PM
http://www.volkskrant.nl/vk/nl/2686/Binnenland/article/detail/3418666/2013/04/02/Joran-van-der-Sloot-wil-zaak-hoger-beroep-bijwonen.dhtml
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He also in August of 2012 had a visit from his mother
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She went to visit him for his birthday. He'll be 26 this year.
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Re: Natalee Holloway/Stephany Flores Case Discussion #867 12/01/12 -
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Quote from: Kermit on April 01, 2013, 09:43:10 PM
http://valentijnvandersloot.com/
Edit to fix link. MB
Valentijn van der Sloot
https://plus.google.com/109847627521248084045/posts
https://plus.google.com/116667903278729334501/posts
http://nchchonors.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Vandersloot-Valentijn-SIRP-Final-Paper.pdf
Valentijn van der Sloot
HS103B paper
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Valentijn
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Valentijn
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That looks like Sea-Bass aka Sebastian.
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http://binnenland.nieuws.nl/748076/van_der_sloot_vraagt_spreektijd_bij_hoger_beroep
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Published on Tuesday, April 2, 2013 at 6:41:08
Van der Sloot asks Speaking at appeals
(AP) - Joran van der Sloot has officially requested to speak his appeal in June. That says his lawyer Máximo Altez at Reuters News.
According to counsel, this is uncommon and there is a good chance that the judges did not agree.
"Joran wants to apologize to the family Stephany Flores because he has killed," said Altez. Van der Sloot has repeatedly apologized, but the court of first instance believed that he did this to get reduced sentences. Altez think the judges talk to the Dutchman can not see because there are "too many people" would come on down.
The family lawyer Flores, Edward Alvarez said they do not know whether he will be present at the session. "I still have the father of Stephany required. Because he wants the matter should leave behind," said the counselor.
It was already known that the June meeting would take place, the date is yet to be determined. A week after the meeting would already be clear whether the judges agree with the passage of the appeal.
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http://www.amigoe.com/aruba/148693-joran-wil-aanwezig-zijn-bij-hoger-beroep-in-juni
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Joran would be present at appeal in June
TUESDAY, APRIL 2, 2013 4:32 P.M.
ORANGE CITY - Joran van der Sloot has asked to be present at the appeal in June. He has through his lawyer Máximo Altez to the Dutch news agency ANP announced.
It is not usual in Peru that a detainee is present upon the appeal, which is why he has made a special request. Joran thinks he is to stand trial for manslaughter and not murder because he Stephany Flores not premeditated has slain. It was a reaction after "much accumulated frustration and grief after the death of my father in 2010," he says. Joran hopes for substantial sentence. He was initially 28 years in prison, but would they say even under 15 should get because he pleaded guilty and has repented.
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Parallel to the appeal is also the reference for the whole process about. This request was submitted to the Inter-American Court of Human Rights of the Organization of American States. Joran maintains that his arrest in Chile and the subsequent deportation to Peru was illegal. It may take several years before the Court in this case ruling.
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Joran has confirmed that he will marry his girlfriend Leidy and that the Director of the Piedras Gordas prison - where he is - there consented to. He must arrange for this paper and expect it in a few months time comes. He also had a visit last August from his mother. The American Mary Hamer still pay his legal fees. But him sitting there in his three Dutch prison. That he sees the visit of the Dutch embassy.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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http://www.amigoe.com/aruba/148694-jaar-cel-geeist-voor-miljoenenfraude-merryweather
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Years in jail for million fraud Merryweather
TUESDAY, APRIL 2, 2013 4:32 P.M.
ORANGE CITY - The Public Prosecutor (OM) has up to one year in prison and a fine of a quarter million florins sought against Herbert 'Herbie' Merryweather (58). He is suspected of years of tax evasion, tax fraud, money laundering and illegal possession of firearms. In total he has according to prosecutor about 6 million florins in taxes verdonkermaand.
His partner, Francine De Lannoy-Merryweather (57), heard last week during the treatment of the lawsuit against a sentence of five months are requirements for its share of the tax.
The court will rule on 18 April.
The Merryweathers its owners include the famous fish restaurant Driftwood.
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On 30 March 2011, the authorities conducted raids in homes and businesses of the family Merryweather. This happened in our country, but also in Colombia, where the family also possessions. Philip Herbert and son were arrested because during the searches illegal firearms were found. After having spent a few days, let the magistrate father and son Fri On June 9, Herbert was arrested again and this time Francine was also arrested in connection with the investigation of tax evasion. A month later the custody of them lifted by the court. The prosecution went here unsuccessfully appealed.
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Lawyer Chris Lejuez is the requirement of the OM too high, so let him know in other media. His clients have indeed admitted to have evaded taxes, but have since been a payment made by the tax authorities. They would according Lejuez three million florins in back taxes for their companies to pay and 750,000 florins private.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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This may have already been posted, and I don't think anyone here really had any doubt but just for the record...
http://www.rtl.nl/components/actueel/rtlnieuws/2013/03_maart/07/binnenland/Handschriftdeskundigen_Joran_meent_niet_wat_hij_schrijft.xml
Google translation:
RTL News | March 7, 2013, 15:44
Handwriting Experts: Joran lying in letter
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Handwriting Experts who the letter of Joran van der Sloot have studied, pulling the sincerity of his apology in doubt. That report handwriting experts online magazine Vice.
RTL News published last Monday 's letter of Joran van der Sloot , which he regret. Experts who the letter at the request of vice.com have studied, naming various features of Joran.
Sheila Low, an experienced handwriting expert from California, called the letter "interesting". "If the sender 'I'm sorry' writes, the m and the s in the I'm" sorry "to the left bent than other letters, which indicates an inner conflict. Deep inside he thinks probably not what he writes. Indeed, the slope of his letters varies regularly suggesting many conflicting feelings. Factor in the variations in font to it, and you have someone with a poorly developed ego. He does not know who he is or where he is at home hear. "
"Letter Writer is manipulative '
The British graphologist Margaret White mentions another characteristic of the writer. "By his environment to manipulate and deceive the writer the others the impression that he is on the social values and norms holds. But the writer does everything for his own needs to satisfy and will never accept that his confidence by others is undermined. "
The experts for the analysis concentrated on his way of writing, and not to what he writes.
The letter was Joran's name and the references to the murder of Flores removed, so that the experts did not know that it comes from Van der Sloot.
http://www.rtl.nl/components/actueel/rtlnieuws/2013/03_maart/04/binnenland/brief-Joran-van-der-Sloot.JPG
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Justice for Natalee
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http://www.nodeju.com/7163/joran-van-der-sloot-case-goes-to-supreme-court.html
Joran van der Sloot Case Goes To Supreme Court
NDJ World | Published: Apr 01 2013 ↓Jump To Discussion
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LIMA – The Joran van der Sloot case in Lima, Peru will be heard by the country’s Supreme Court in June this year.
Although it is not customary for the convict to be present during those proceedings, van der Sloot has requested he is allowed to attend, according to his attorney Máximo Altez.
The Dutchman says he should be tried for manslaughter and not for 1st degree murder because he didn’t kill Stephany Flores premeditated.
“It was a reaction coming from many build up frustrations and the sadness from the death of my father in 2010,” van der Sloot explains.
Joran van der Sloot is looking to receive a major reduction from his 28 years sentence. He believes he may receive less than 15 years, which is justified because he confessed to the crime and he showed mercy to the court.
::snipping2::
In a recent news flash, Joran van der Sloot said he is getting married to his girlfriend ‘Leidy’.
The warden of the Piedras Gordas prison, where van der Sloot resides, reportedly gave permission for the Dutchman to get married. Van der Sloot is waiting for proper paperwork to be completed.
In August 2012, his mother came to visit him in prison. His biggest fan, Mary Hamer from Florida, still pays all his legal fees.
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=> Cassandra Morton 23, Lynchburg, missing 10/10/09 body found 11/29/09
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High Profile Crimes and Trials (not missing persons)
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=> Jodi Arias trial - for the murder of Travis Alexander
=> Trial of George Zimmerman - 2nd Degree Murder of 17yr old Trayvon Martin
=> Scott Peterson Appeal of Murder Conviction
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Missing, Exploited and True Crime
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=> Missing Exploited and True Crime
===> Missing Persons Forum
=====> Missing Found or Presumed Deceased
=====> Missing Found Safe
=====> Missing Endangered Runaways
=====> Resourses, Search Groups and Fundraisers
===> Crimes Against Children, Elderly and the Disabled
===> Crimes of Passion/Anger
===> Serial Killers and Their Possible Victims
===> Unsolved Crimes
=====> Finally Solved
===> Haleigh Marie Cummings - Florida
===> Adji Desir - Florida
===> Somer Renee Thompson 7 yo, Orange Park FL 10/19/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Tracy Ocasio - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
===> Deepak Statements/PV's
===> Satish Statements/PV's
===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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Current Events and Musings
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=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
===> Hugely Popular TV Shows
===> Movies and Television
===> Social Media
===> Music
===> Books
===> Scared Monkeys Radio with Dana Pretzer
=> Health and Medical Issues
=> Food and Product Recalls
=> News of the Day
=> Business News
=> Sports
=> Political Forum
=> Religion (discussion and debate)
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The Monkey Lounge
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=> The Monkey Lounge
===> Fashion & Decorating
===> What's Cooking? Recipes
===> Games
=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
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