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For those of you that do not speak Dutch, French German and so on, here is a link to a translation page. You can take text from an article or wherever and copy it then go to this site and have it translated. It is not always perfect but you will get the drift of what is being said. For example, google Joran VDS and you will get many sites in Dutch and you can see what they are saying. This is a free service and very useful. I use it all the time. It is not perfect but it is good.
http://world.altavista.com/
Beware, as Americans don't always come off nicely in these articles upon tranlation!
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I'm trying to figure out a word play on this
joran van der sloot
( took a van to sloop?? boat slip?)
(part of update 6-16-05--damn I just realized... soot--
a black substance formed by combustion or separated from fuel during combustion, rising in fine particles, and adhering to the sides of the chimney or pipe conveying the smoke; especially : the fine powder consisting chiefly of carbon that colors smoke..Someone on this forum had a Dream about Natalee about her being covered in dust and standing next to them at the lighthouse)
Dompig
dominant 'pig' (police official)
Aruba government spokesman Rueben Trappenberg
(human trafficker)
David Kock, who represents 18-year-old Satish Kalpoe
(rape?)
hotel gaurd 'Mickey' John, 30
nicknamed mickey also another name for date rape drug
not to do with him though just a clue
the Holloways family's spokeswoman Carla Caccavale
(vailed in a cave)
all these are just clues the names to each person doesn't mean it's their fault they came togther to fit into the puzzle
I'm updating this today is 6-16-05 at 9:10pm
ok here we go
Deepak Kalpoe, 21
(the 'pact') (the lie they keep)
Satish Kalpoe, 18
(the 'stash' the drug connection)/(or could be clue to where/location of natalee)
now...
Natalee Holloway
(national holiday)( went missing while on 'holiday' unfortunately that day
was a 'holiday' as well...memorial day
she stayed at the 'holiday inn'
joran
(jargon) (the changing of the story)
definition:
1 a : confused unintelligible language b : a strange, outlandish, or barbarous language or dialect c : a hybrid language or dialect simplified in vocabulary and grammar and used for communication between peoples of different speech
2 : the technical terminology or characteristic idiom of a special activity or group
3 : obscure and often pretentious language marked by circumlocutions and long words
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Quote from: "Michael22"
I'm trying to figure out a word play on this
joran van der sloot
( took a van to sloop?? boat slip?)
(part of update 6-16-05--damn I just realized... soot--
a black substance formed by combustion or separated from fuel during combustion, rising in fine particles, and adhering to the sides of the chimney or pipe conveying the smoke; especially : the fine powder consisting chiefly of carbon that colors smoke..Someone on this forum had a Dream about Natalee about her being covered in dust and standing next to them at the lighthouse)
Dompig
dominant 'pig' (police official)
Aruba government spokesman Rueben Trappenberg
(human trafficker)
David Kock, who represents 18-year-old Satish Kalpoe
(rape?)
hotel gaurd 'Mickey' John, 30
nicknamed mickey also another name for date rape drug
not to do with him though just a clue
the Holloways family's spokeswoman Carla Caccavale
(vailed in a cave)
all these are just clues the names to each person doesn't mean it's their fault they came togther to fit into the puzzle
I'm updating this today is 6-16-05 at 9:10pm
ok here we go
Deepak Kalpoe, 21
(the 'pact') (the lie they keep)
Satish Kalpoe, 18
(the 'stash' the drug connection)/(or could be clue to where/location of natalee)
now...
Natalee Holloway
(national holiday)( went missing while on 'holiday' unfortunately that day
was a 'holiday' as well...memorial day
she stayed at the 'holiday inn'
joran
(jargon) (the changing of the story)
definition:
1 a : confused unintelligible language b : a strange, outlandish, or barbarous language or dialect c : a hybrid language or dialect simplified in vocabulary and grammar and used for communication between peoples of different speech
2 : the technical terminology or characteristic idiom of a special activity or group
3 : obscure and often pretentious language marked by circumlocutions and long words
well how perfect
the fourth 'suspect'
a one Steve G. Cruise...
works on a party boat as a Dj....need I say more... Cruise
somebody go on a boat trip late at night..?
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June 18, 2005, 04:55:19 PM »
That's great! I love the one specifically for Joran (jargon)...what a loser. These guys need to start talking....hopefully they are.
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Quote from: "Michael22"
Quote from: "Michael22"
I'm trying to figure out a word play on this
joran van der sloot
( took a van to sloop?? boat slip?)
(part of update 6-16-05--damn I just realized... soot--
a black substance formed by combustion or separated from fuel during combustion, rising in fine particles, and adhering to the sides of the chimney or pipe conveying the smoke; especially : the fine powder consisting chiefly of carbon that colors smoke..Someone on this forum had a Dream about Natalee about her being covered in dust and standing next to them at the lighthouse)
Dompig
dominant 'pig' (police official)
Aruba government spokesman Rueben Trappenberg
(human trafficker)
David Kock, who represents 18-year-old Satish Kalpoe
(rape?)
hotel gaurd 'Mickey' John, 30
nicknamed mickey also another name for date rape drug
not to do with him though just a clue
the Holloways family's spokeswoman Carla Caccavale
(vailed in a cave)
all these are just clues the names to each person doesn't mean it's their fault they came togther to fit into the puzzle
I'm updating this today is 6-16-05 at 9:10pm
ok here we go
Deepak Kalpoe, 21
(the 'pact') (the lie they keep)
Satish Kalpoe, 18
(the 'stash' the drug connection)/(or could be clue to where/location of natalee)
now...
Natalee Holloway
(national holiday)( went missing while on 'holiday' unfortunately that day
was a 'holiday' as well...memorial day
she stayed at the 'holiday inn'
joran
(jargon) (the changing of the story)
definition:
1 a : confused unintelligible language b : a strange, outlandish, or barbarous language or dialect c : a hybrid language or dialect simplified in vocabulary and grammar and used for communication between peoples of different speech
2 : the technical terminology or characteristic idiom of a special activity or group
3 : obscure and often pretentious language marked by circumlocutions and long words
well how perfect
the fourth 'suspect'
a one Steve G. Cruise...whoops correct spelling is croes is that right.?
pronounced 'cruise'
works on a party boat as a Dj....need I say more... Cruise
somebody go on a boat trip late at night..?
k sorry no sleep cranky today
dsl wasn't workin last night
soo..
I came up with something else here at first they didn't release this guys name..they just went by his initials..
S.G.C.
it said something to me..
here's what I was thinking..
U.S.C.G.
correlation..?
is the united states Coast Gaurd invloved now..?
I hope so.
I have no proof what so ever just reading into these names..
anyone know the name of or if there is a fifth suspect..?
k
supposedly its van Rijn
this would only lead me too prostitution 'ring'
Imperative...
I've been following this story and through the peoples last names I've been able to piece together a series of events...
Catrina please do not delete from here people need to see this..
As the heading of this post says 'rumors' of breaking news...
here is what I beleive to have happened...
you better sit down if you have weak legs, cause this one's gonna knock you down...(everythings hitting the fan now)
people of aruba take cover
these kids the 3 joran, surinamese brothers that are in jail
are in "protective custody" they are being moved to the prison
I believe that they have threats on their life if they talk
they got in some trouble with drug dealers..
they 'owed' them they couldn't pay it back they said
'you gotta give us 'somethin' "
if you don't we'll kill one of you
I think it's one of the surnimese brothers
Joran is protecting his 'friend'
the guy that got decapitated is a 'message' sent
the drive by at the hotel.
not sure
but related I think
I need more help to piece the last part together
for a location
Is/was there anybody named 'king' last name whatever
related to this case?????
the reason why aruba wasn't talking they didn't want to advertise they're drug problem
the reason the kids aren't talking..they fear for their life
if they get out they'll be killed.??
the reason the fbi/investigators aren't talking they dont' want the people who have Natalee know that they know.....
interesting....here..
Transcript from Fox report.
He told Fox reporter:
We have been working on this case since the first day, since then have picked up every piece of material, so they can have everything to put together this story. Tonight again we are on the road cause the team is following some suspect cars that we need for this story. Looks like we are going to have a nice finish for this story asap. His sources say they have moved already from where they were and they want to know exactly where they are going.
She asks who do you think is moving Natalie and is he saying that he thinks she is alive?
He says yes, of course. We are going in a group of 2 ladies, 3 gentlemen. One gentlemen knows a person who knows how to deal with drugs (not from Aruba) maybe from Venezuela or Columbia. The plan was to drive Natalee to columbia, but the latest news we have right now is that because the plan has failed 3 times already, they may try to reach Columbia before Venezuela.
She asked what kind of condition he thinks she is in.
He says that the police have their investigation going on, the press does too. We are going to all steps we can, we have put together a group to follow a car that we think are involved in this. We are working on a tip. Have not notified her family, we are working with the police.
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I just read your posts on your word play. Thats pretty incredible thinking. Keep it going, who knows what you'll come up with next.
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michael22:
WHO is saying this?...
Quote
He told Fox reporter:
We have been working on this case since the first day, since then have picked up every piece of material, so they can have everything to put together this story. Tonight again we are on the road cause the team is following some suspect cars that we need for this story. Looks like we are going to have a nice finish for this story asap. His sources say they have moved already from where they were and they want to know exactly where they are going.
She asks who do you think is moving Natalie and is he saying that he thinks she is alive?
He says yes, of course. We are going in a group of 2 ladies, 3 gentlemen. One gentlemen knows a person who knows how to deal with drugs (not from Aruba) maybe from Venezuela or Columbia. The plan was to drive Natalee to columbia, but the latest news we have right now is that because the plan has failed 3 times already, they may try to reach Columbia before Venezuela.
She asked what kind of condition he thinks she is in.
He says that the police have their investigation going on, the press does too. We are going to all steps we can, we have put together a group to follow a car that we think are involved in this. We are working on a tip. Have not notified her family, we are working with the police.
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June 20, 2005, 08:47:14 AM »
SGC... Security Guard "c" (perhaps in a borrowed or stolen SG shirt?
as opposed to security guard "a" or security guard "b" who were already arrested and released.
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Quote from: "wbvious"
michael22:
WHO is saying this?...
Quote
He told Fox reporter:
We have been working on this case since the first day, since then have picked up every piece of material, so they can have everything to put together this story. Tonight again we are on the road cause the team is following some suspect cars that we need for this story. Looks like we are going to have a nice finish for this story asap. His sources say they have moved already from where they were and they want to know exactly where they are going.
She asks who do you think is moving Natalie and is he saying that he thinks she is alive?
He says yes, of course. We are going in a group of 2 ladies, 3 gentlemen. One gentlemen knows a person who knows how to deal with drugs (not from Aruba) maybe from Venezuela or Columbia. The plan was to drive Natalee to columbia, but the latest news we have right now is that because the plan has failed 3 times already, they may try to reach Columbia before Venezuela.
She asked what kind of condition he thinks she is in.
He says that the police have their investigation going on, the press does too. We are going to all steps we can, we have put together a group to follow a car that we think are involved in this. We are working on a tip. Have not notified her family, we are working with the police.
This was the juxt of a telephone interview on FOX with someone at Diario.
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Quote from: "KV123"
SGC... Security Guard "c" (perhaps in a borrowed or stolen SG shirt?
as opposed to security guard "a" or security guard "b" who were already arrested and released.
THANK YOU KV123 I need all the help I can get through this 'channel'
that's is awesome...
ok so it's back to S.G.C.
(security gaurd c. )
those security gaurds worked for the marriott
the marriott is Closed for the seasone undergoing renovations
till december...
their work permits expired on the 29th I think....
security gaurd closed..............
what ever happened happened on those grounds
I think they ( the three kids ) knew that that hotel was closed
andd nobody was around there..
soo.......
let me figure this out
I'll be back...
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sorry posted twice...
but here is an addition to my theory
I think we will know what happened on july 4th
(independence day)
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How'd you come up with that? The holiday link? I thought it would've been yesterday, the 19th, Father's day- the numbers 4 and 19 have been stuck in my head for a couple weeks, no idea why, but I thought for sure yesterday we would've heard something.
I'm loving this topic.
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OOPS, double post.
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What about
Holloway= haul away or hollow "A"?
Van der Sloot= a van
Joran= you ran
Croes= crows, or a ruse
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JORAN VAN DER SLOOT
(oranj) VAN RED TOOLS
orange
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http://www.deepweb.com
works well too.
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Wow, this is a very interesting thread. Keep the thoughts coming Michael. Now I am curious about July 4th date.
I have been a regular poster on another message board since the Peterson case. Have been lurking over here for weeks so thought I would join and get involved in the discussions.
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Quote from: "KV123"
How'd you come up with that? The holiday link? I thought it would've been yesterday, the 19th, Father's day- the numbers 4 and 19 have been stuck in my head for a couple weeks, no idea why, but I thought for sure yesterday we would've heard something.
I'm loving this topic.
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Well, I'm anxious for you to come back to play
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I didn't find a reference to a King, but there is a Queen Beatrix (?) airport on Aruba.
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you said the numbers 4 & 19 stuck in your head. what if its the 4th suspect arrested on the 19th?
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