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Author Topic: AMBER ALERT for Missing 10 YO Jessica Ridgeway, Westminster, CO(BODY FOUND)  (Read 871378 times)
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« Reply #1140 on: October 28, 2012, 05:29:43 PM »

Here's the deal..no matter the reasoning..no matter the babble we put behind it..scientific or otherwise..this child-man is broken goods.  Be it his heredity, his upbringing and family issues, or our society.  Probably more a result of all those rather then just one..needless to say.  Sometimes we can't name the evil or combat it for future reference..meaning it is a perfect storm of all those factors and unpredictable.  Sometimes evil is not as explainable as we would like.  I am very cautious on anything he or his family has to say..most people in his frame of reference prove to be very manipulative of family, friends and LE..they have secured that dark area of themselves by doing so.

I still believe there is a connection to hard porn and violence..notice I said I believe.  Studys done over the years have proved that point to exist.  Yet I know there is someone out there ready to say they watched hard porn as a young teen, even the hard porn combined with real snuff films that came out in the 70's and 80's and they are totally sane now..okay then. 

But what made this person escalate is more then likely a perfect storm of many factors..that as parents and society are out of our control.  His family obviously tried to get him some sort of help earlier..was it the right help, who knows..I have always thought that the brain was our last frontier..not outer space, our inner space..that very inclusive inner space that makes us who we are..that is our final frontier and alas our final destination.  Many people raised in similiar circumstanes have chosen to take different paths then those that end up as felons..the jail house is a testimony to the fact that our society raises the good, the bad and the ugly and yet..some turn our as super stars in their own right ..while others have a bent to the more obtuse.

So can we blame bad parenting, a broken marriage, and liking porn to a savage murder and dismemberment..not so much.  Can we say those are contributing factors..yes.  However there are some missing keys here..possibly a missing cohort, definitely a missing crime scene of the dismemberment (atleast to our knowledge at present)..I mean that's alot of blood and gore that had to happen somewhere other then the care for is Mom not to know at the getgo.

Do I think he is guilty yes..do I blame anyone other then him..possibly ..I think there may have been an accomplice atleast in the respect of an area to inhabit the dismemberment and as an audience.  His parents..his pastor, his counselors, ..no I don't think any of them could have stopped this perfect storm..sometimes evil is just what iti is..not understand  nor accountable to any one factor..just plain evil.

Generational curse perhaps.

I find it so telling that his own father writes an email to the media, rather then fly back and be with his son, then release his media statement. I don't buy it anyways cuz he's proven to be a con.



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« Reply #1141 on: October 28, 2012, 05:30:30 PM »

Of 500 DNA samples LE took, Austin Siggs was one of them.  Why?  Did LE take DNA samples from any other 17 year olds?  Blink has theorised Austin may have a sealed prior as a juvenile.  Might this help explain why his was one of those samples collected.

I also wonder why he willingly gave the sample?  Is it possible he did not realize his DNA was on or in the backpack?

 I also wonder about a mother allowing her teen who is or was in therapy collect swords and knives? 



I wonder if any other 17 year olds were among the 500 DNA samples taken?

Also wonder about the knife/sword collection. 

I suppose it's possible he thought he was smart enough not to leave dna.

Can't help but wonder if Mindy was fearful of him and/or afraid for her younger son/
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« Reply #1142 on: October 28, 2012, 05:44:55 PM »


Here's another look at the cooler and the officer.



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Considering a cooler has never been mentioned in any of the online publications posted ... mentioned in regards to remains being taken from the crawl space of the Sigg's residence ... could it be that the cooler in the image is being utilized by investigators for the storage the DNA evidence?

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Police: Suspect in Jessica Ridgeway murder is 17-year-old boy
Posted:   10/24/2012 11:25:11 AM MDT
Updated:   10/25/2012 05:27:17 AM MDT


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On Wednesday afternoon, much of Sigg's neighborhood was cordoned off with police tape. While news helicopters circled overhead, investigators took a brown Jeep Grand Cherokee with a NASA decal on the back windshield away from his home at 10622 W. 102nd Ave. They pored over a construction trash bin across the street and could be seen working in the backyard.

Investigators told The Post that they found "DNA remnants" in the crawl space of the home.

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http://**/breakingnews/ci_21844711/arrest-made-jessica-ridgeway-case


Prosecutors Say There Is DNA Evidence Linking Suspect to Jessica Ridgeway's Murder
Oct. 26, 2012


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Prosecutors said that Sigg's DNA was on Ridgeway's backpack and at the crime scene in the Arvada, Colo., where her body was found Oct. 10. Lawyers also said that traces of Sigg's DNA were left at a crime scene involving a jogger who was attacked in May.

Sources tell ABC News that human remains believed to be Ridgeway's were found inside his home, which is less than a mile away from where the 10-year-old lived with her mother. Investigators have been searching for clues in Sigg's home since his arrest. Sigg shares the home with his mother, Mindy.

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http://abcnews.go.com/US/prosecutors-dna-evidence-linking-suspect-jessica-ridgeways-murder/story?id=17569788


Report: Jessica Ridgeway Murder Suspect Confessed to Keeping Remains in Crawl Space
Posted on: 6:12 pm, October 24, 2012


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According to CBS4 in Denver, Sigg told police he strangled Ridgeway after he got her into his vehicle on Oct. 5 — although Westminster police have not released this information.

Sigg reportedly waived his rights and told investigators that human remains could be found inside a crawl space under the home where he was arrested.

Sigg is charged with the first-degree murder and kidnapping of Ridgeway, whose dismembered body was found five days after she disappeared.

KDVR in Denver reports that Sigg wanted to be a mortician.

Sigg’s mother, Mindy Sigg, told the Associated Press that she called police and alerted them to her son’s involvement in Ridgeway’s murder.

“I made the phone call, and he turned himself in. That’s all I have to say,” she said before she broke down in tears and hung up the phone.

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http://fox4kc.com/2012/10/24/report-jessica-ridgeway-murder-suspect-confessed-to-keeping-remains-in-crawl-space/

Well, as you found, Blink had a source that mentioned a cooler, and I know I heard about a cooler on some news stream or video, so I doubt this is a container brought in by the LE crew. JMO, of course.
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« Reply #1143 on: October 28, 2012, 05:57:29 PM »

http://**/news/ci_21870983/enigmatic-portrait-jessica-ridgeway-suspects-family-emerges

Enigmatic portrait of Jessica Ridgeway suspect's family emerges
Posted:   10/28/2012 12:01:00 AM MDT

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Shocked and disturbed neighbors, along with acquaintances and public records, sketch an enigmatic portrait of the family: a teenager described as friendly and brilliant yet also egotistical and sometimes bullying; a single mother who has struggled financially to raise two sons after a divorce; and a father with a long and troubled legal history.

"He was a respectful kid"

Naomi Fox watched Austin Sigg grow up from just a few houses away. Her son took karate classes with Sigg, and the two remained friends into their teenage years. Like other neighbors, Fox found Sigg the type of kid who would stop and chat in the driveway.

"He was wonderful. He was a respectful kid," she said. "People have said he's antisocial. That's not the person I know. We were all shocked and horrified."

Neighbor Bill Garone said he rarely saw Sigg but knew his mother, Mindy. He called Wednesday's news of her older son's arrest "mind-boggling."

"We'd seen the Sigg boys down here," Garone said. "They were very nice, very polite."

Austin Sigg, who left high school, earned his GED and was enrolled at Arapahoe Community College, had a fascination with crime-scene forensics and planned to study mortuary science, classmates said.

Meanwhile, Mindy Sigg appeared to run into tough economic times.

In a bankruptcy filing in May, she listed income of $2,000 per month in child support coupled with about $2,200 in take-home pay from her job as a technician at an eye-care clinic. Among her debts are $14,070 in student loans and more than $19,000 in credit-card bills.

She had a motor home repossessed last December and sold a personal watercraft on Craigslist last spring — measures that hint at the family's more prosperous times.

Neighbors recalled that when Mindy and Rob Sigg first moved onto the block in 1996, they renovated the entire house — even adding a swimming pool, a rare feature on the middle-class street that includes families who have lived there for 30 years.

Back then, Mindy Sigg was a stay-at-home mom and a bit more social, making frequent appearances at community potlucks and gatherings, they said.

After the Siggs divorced in 2000, Mindy went back to work and then back to school to become certified as a technician, licensing records show.

She stopped attending the potlucks in recent years, but she still made time for her children.

"They went camping or to the lake in Wyoming," said Fox. "She was a loving parent. I think their immediate neighbors will all rally around (Mindy Sigg and her youngest son). People outside might think they must be horrible people, too. That's not the case."
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Blink, do you now where Mindy went camping?  I wonder if that location is far from home? 
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« Reply #1144 on: October 28, 2012, 06:04:18 PM »


Generational curse perhaps.

I find it so telling that his own father writes an email to the media, rather then fly back and be with his son, then release his media statement. I don't buy it anyways cuz he's proven to be a con.


Some of these guys tend to have suffered abuse and an affectionless control style of bonding as a child (Giotakos et al. 2004).

They are influenced by psychobiological, personality, and abusive history factors

(we know that Austins father was abusive (records show domestic violence reports by Mindy)

An alternative position on the causes involves cultural and social factors that create a breeding ground.
Men who buy into the cultural idea that a man is aggressive, macho, and has control over women tend to be more aggressive toward women.  Polaschek et al. 2004 suggests that sex is used as a stress relief. Childhood abuse from a father, a certain temperament, and poor stress management skills are all contributing factors.

What we know so far is Austin at the age of 5, was abandonment by the father at a critical stage in his development.  His father remarried several times. And the father/mother engaged in battles which led to domestic violence.
You've got a kid by the age of 15 has acted out in some way that has led to sex addiction counseling.  This is usually
someone being caught in a sexual perverse act. In the 70s kids reading their dads Playboy magazine would have been nothing.
Nowadays kids have access to paying for pron on their computers and watching deviant behaviors. Maybe mom saw something
or as a means to get some parental attention Austin told his mother and she thought getting him counseling would be the solution.
We don't know that the parents came together to help their son.

You do not get from point A (sex addiction) to point B (murder) without going through stages and this kid was  acting out;
as neighbors and other school students state he wore "black" he was "Gothic", he was into "computers", he had collections of
"knives", he was interested in Ted Bundy, he was interested in "dead bodies".  All were signs that no one cared to notice.

Within 2 years of his being caught and sent to sex addiction counseling, he attempted kidnapping of a woman whom he couldn't control, then he chose his next victim - someone he could have control over, hog tied her and strangled her in the car, then mutilated her body, keeping some parts at home, throwing her torso in a field and then confessing to his mother.


Source: Polaschek, D. L., Hudson, S. M. (2004). Pathways to rape: preliminary examination of   patterns in the offence processes of rapists and their rehabilitation implications.   Journal of Sexual Aggression, 10(1), 7-20.

Giotakos, O., Vaidakis, N., Markeanos, M., Spandoni, P., Christodoulou, G. N. (2004).   Temperament and character dimensions of sex offenders in relation to their   parental rearing. Sexual and Relationship Therapy, 19(2). 

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« Reply #1146 on: October 28, 2012, 06:50:56 PM »



What are all the arrows for, besides the one pointing at the cooler and stick pile?
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« Reply #1147 on: October 28, 2012, 07:33:39 PM »

O/T

Janet - good to see you, I was worried about the earthquake!

Thanks Klaas.

I believe that only the Northern West Coast of British Columbia stretching East into the mainland felt the earthquake.  Thankfully ... there was very little damage and no injuries or fatalities.  Eldest son and family who live in the Victoria area of Vancouver Island felt nothing.

However ... there was a tsunami warning/advisory for a period of time as far away as Alaska/Hawaii and south along the coast as far as Mexico.  Thankfully ... no tsunami happened.

Janet

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/10/28/b-c-earthquake/


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Well, as you found, Blink had a source that mentioned a cooler, and I know I heard about a cooler on some news stream or video, so I doubt this is a container brought in by the LE crew. JMO, of course.


Brandi

I did post on the  forum from Blink's blog regarding the cooler but following that posting Blink clarified her position.

The cooler in the image could have either been taken to the Sigg home to collect evidence or it could have been taken from the crawl space with some of Jessica's remains.  I wish we knew the truth.

Janet

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The Devil They Knew: Jessica Ridgeway Accused Murderer Austin Reed Sigg Profile Emerges
Thursday 25 October 2012 11:35 am


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Upon arrival,  Austin Reed Sigg confessed the unthinkable.   Sigg told investigators he strangled the little girl after he snatched her into his Jeep, hogtied her in the back, and they could find the remainder of the child in a cooler located in a crawl space at his 102nd St address.

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http://blinkoncrime.com/2012/10/25/the-devil-they-knew-jessica-ridgeway-accused-murderer-austin-reed-sigg-profile-emerges/




I reported the cooler in my piece from a source, the source was not able to confirm if the remains found were found directly in the cooler in the "crawlspace"  (which I am told but cannot confirm is an access point that was covered with a pile of sticks originally) or if they were placed there after the fact ( as in, he accessed them again, or other)




This is the only thing I have been able to find about a cooler being involved:

CSI investigators first entered the home with cameras and then started carrying boxes and bins inside, likely for gathering evidence.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/jessica-ridgeway/white-suited-crime-scene-investigators-comb-the-home-of-teen-suspect-in-jessica-ridgeway-slaying


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« Reply #1149 on: October 28, 2012, 08:08:02 PM »

http://**/news/ci_21870983/enigmatic-portrait-jessica-ridgeway-suspects-family-emerges

Enigmatic portrait of Jessica Ridgeway suspect's family emerges
Posted:   10/28/2012 12:01:00 AM MDT

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Shocked and disturbed neighbors, along with acquaintances and public records, sketch an enigmatic portrait of the family: a teenager described as friendly and brilliant yet also egotistical and sometimes bullying; a single mother who has struggled financially to raise two sons after a divorce; and a father with a long and troubled legal history.

"He was a respectful kid"

Naomi Fox watched Austin Sigg grow up from just a few houses away. Her son took karate classes with Sigg, and the two remained friends into their teenage years. Like other neighbors, Fox found Sigg the type of kid who would stop and chat in the driveway.

"He was wonderful. He was a respectful kid," she said. "People have said he's antisocial. That's not the person I know. We were all shocked and horrified."

Neighbor Bill Garone said he rarely saw Sigg but knew his mother, Mindy. He called Wednesday's news of her older son's arrest "mind-boggling."

"We'd seen the Sigg boys down here," Garone said. "They were very nice, very polite."

Austin Sigg, who left high school, earned his GED and was enrolled at Arapahoe Community College, had a fascination with crime-scene forensics and planned to study mortuary science, classmates said.

Meanwhile, Mindy Sigg appeared to run into tough economic times.

In a bankruptcy filing in May, she listed income of $2,000 per month in child support coupled with about $2,200 in take-home pay from her job as a technician at an eye-care clinic. Among her debts are $14,070 in student loans and more than $19,000 in credit-card bills.

She had a motor home repossessed last December and sold a personal watercraft on Craigslist last spring — measures that hint at the family's more prosperous times.

Neighbors recalled that when Mindy and Rob Sigg first moved onto the block in 1996, they renovated the entire house — even adding a swimming pool, a rare feature on the middle-class street that includes families who have lived there for 30 years.

Back then, Mindy Sigg was a stay-at-home mom and a bit more social, making frequent appearances at community potlucks and gatherings, they said.

After the Siggs divorced in 2000, Mindy went back to work and then back to school to become certified as a technician, licensing records show.

She stopped attending the potlucks in recent years, but she still made time for her children.

"They went camping or to the lake in Wyoming," said Fox. "She was a loving parent. I think their immediate neighbors will all rally around (Mindy Sigg and her youngest son). People outside might think they must be horrible people, too. That's not the case."

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From my perspective the bucks it cost for a luxury vacation in May to the Virgin Islands for four ... the same month Mindy Sigg filed for Chapter 7 bankruptcy ... should have been used to pay off some of that student loan underwritten by the American taxpayers or ... to pay off some of the creditors on that Visa bill.

I am not talking about necessities of life.

Janet

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In my world ... there is something very wrong morally and legally with the following picture.

Janet

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May, 2012 - Vacation to the Virgin Islands

Exclusive: Ridgeway murder suspect Austin Sigg treated for pornography addiction
Posted on: 11:38 pm, October 24, 2012


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Additionally, we learned he left the mainland of the United States shortly after an alleged attempted abduction at Ketner Lake on Memorial Day Weekend.

Sigg also faces charges related to that incident. Investigators say the teen attacked a 22-year-old female jogger. She told police a man grabbed her from behind and shoved a chemical-soaked rag over her mouth.

She was able to escape from the attacker.

After the Ketner Lake incident, Sigg and his family went on vacation in the U.S. Virgin Islands. They stayed at a luxury resort.

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http://kdvr.com/2012/10/24/exclusive-ridgeway-murder-suspect-austin-sigg-treated-for-pornography-addiction/


May, 2012 - Bankruptcy Filing

Ridgeway Murder Suspect Had A Difficult Past
October 24, 2012 7:39 PM


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Robert Sigg’s ex-wife, Austin Sigg’s mother Mindy Sigg, lives in a Westminster home with their son. She also had money problems. In May, court documents show Mindy Sigg filed for Chapter 7 bankruptcy.

Austin Sigg’s parents were divorced 12 years ago.

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http://denver.cbslocal.com/2012/10/24/ridgeway-murder-suspect-had-a-difficult-past/



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« Reply #1150 on: October 28, 2012, 08:29:55 PM »

 Hi Janet...It is not unusual for people getting ready to file bankruptcy to charge up a luxury vacation on their credit cards that they are filing against..
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« Reply #1151 on: October 28, 2012, 08:45:36 PM »

Dang Gypsy- true dat and then some.  Well said.

I recently read what is considered the work of psycopathy pioneer Robert Hare, PHD

To your point, as infants, if attachment deficient issues are present for an extended period, it seems to be the baseline for being dealt a bad hand ( hereditary excluded in this comment) and his ability to relate to the criminal aspects of this profile were worth the read-

Without Conscience- Robert Hare, Phd.  For anyone that is interested

I read that book and a couple others by Hare. Very interesting. I have not commented much as this case hits home for me. My step son was removed from school some years ago for "sexual addiction" - more commonly known as sexual molestation of minors (many of them) - and we never knew until it was too late. But during that treatment (which we had to pay out of pocket for and I wonder if that explains the debts to the AG on mom's bankruptcy filing) he was diagnosed with psychopathic tendencies - no one under 18 is officially diagnosed as a psychopath - but his treaters told me that he was a psychopath and I was in extreme danger. His mother was cold and unfeeling beoch and did not like to be bothered with him and she never hesitated to tell him. It was so bad that later, after the divorce, my hubs was told that the boy was emptying his bowels in the back yard.

The point being, I agree with Dr. Hare that EARLY childhood can cause problems - and when you have a person that is not wired correctly to begin with, it is more likely to be scary later.

The monster in this case reminds me of my stepson - he looks like him, his life is described much like him (playing with younger girls, seeming to be active in church but no one to vouch for him like the pastor etc. ).  It scares the life out of me.
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« Reply #1152 on: October 28, 2012, 10:00:35 PM »

[I read that book and a couple others by Hare. Very interesting. I have not commented much as this case hits home for me. My step son was removed from school some years ago for "sexual addiction" - more commonly known as sexual molestation of minors (many of them) - and we never knew until it was too late. But during that treatment (which we had to pay out of pocket for and I wonder if that explains the debts to the AG on mom's bankruptcy filing) he was diagnosed with psychopathic tendencies - no one under 18 is officially diagnosed as a psychopath - but his treaters told me that he was a psychopath and I was in extreme danger. His mother was cold and unfeeling beoch and did not like to be bothered with him and she never hesitated to tell him. It was so bad that later, after the divorce, my hubs was told that the boy was emptying his bowels in the back yard.

The point being, I agree with Dr. Hare that EARLY childhood can cause problems - and when you have a person that is not wired correctly to begin with, it is more likely to be scary later.

The monster in this case reminds me of my stepson - he looks like him, his life is described much like him (playing with younger girls, seeming to be active in church but no one to vouch for him like the pastor etc. ).  It scares the life out of me.

What an ordeal for you to go through.
I was just watching a video and a classmate said that she saw Siggs "talking to himself".
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http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Jessica%20Ridgeway%20%20-CO-/?action=view&current=102412h2.jpg#!oZZ103QQcurrentZZhttp%3A%2F%2Fs296.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fmm166%2Fcrankycrankerson%2FJessica%2520Ridgeway%2520%2520-CO-%2F%3Faction%3Dview%26current%3D102412Classmate-ItsAlwaysTheNiceOnes001.mp4
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« Reply #1154 on: October 28, 2012, 10:25:47 PM »

Portion of the transcript from last night's Nancy Grace show:

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MONA, CALLER FROM ARIZONA: Nancy, earlier I`ve been watching this as it broke news today. They -- one of the neighbors mentioned that the mother had a boyfriend that moved out about a month ago. I want to know who this boyfriend is, where he works. Was he in a mortuary? What influence he had on this boy?

GRACE: You know, I`d like to know that, too, Mona in Arizona. But I will tell you right now regardless if he had a bad influence on him, if they played these crazy games together -- I`m going to go to you on that very quickly, Matt Zarrell. Unless he took part in this crime he`s not going to be charged.

http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1210/24/ng.01.html


I would like to know more about the mom's boyfriend, his relationship with Austin, and when the last time they saw eachother was.

I've wondered about him since I heard this caller on NG too.

If this is true, and he was living there at the time, maybe he paid for the vacation to the Virgin Islands?
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« Reply #1155 on: October 29, 2012, 12:45:46 AM »

i think austin knew,it was only a matter of time


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The boy's mother said she called police but Sigg handed himself over to officers. A woman identifying herself as his aunt said his mother alerted authorities after the Sigg came to her with some 'disturbing information.'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2223148/Death-obsessed-teen-confesses-murder-Jessica-Ridgeway-appearing-court-distraught-family-break-down.html

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« Reply #1156 on: October 29, 2012, 01:55:37 AM »

http://**/state-west-news/ci_21877347

Jessica Ridgeway case: Sigg would be rarity among killers if convicted
Posted:   10/28/2012 10:33:15 PM MDT

DENVER -- "Precocious" doesn't sound like the right word. Yet it means someone has developed certain capabilities or proclivities at an unusually young age.

The killer of 10-year-old Jessica Ridgeway dismembered her. That would make 17-year-old murder suspect Austin Sigg, if convicted, a rarity -- even among serial killers.

Little has been released by authorities about the details of the crime, but the singular fact of dismemberment is telling, experts say.

"The amount of violence -- the pathology in that -- is remarkable at any age, but especially for a teen," said retired FBI profiler Gregg McCrary. "That's very unusual. That's very striking."
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Some killers dismembered or mutilated victims to explore the body or for other psychological gratification, although such people aren't common even among serial killers, said Dr. Park Dietz, a forensic psychiatrist and head of Threat Assessment Group in Newport Beach, Calif.

"Dismemberment is a rarity for killers of every age and background, as it is time-consuming, hard work and distasteful to most humans," Dietz said.

Yet some killers, he said, do it to experiment with the body, harvest an anatomical trophy -- making sexual use of a part of the victim's body -- or imitate a real or fictional killer who "has caught their fancy."

"I will not be surprised if we one day refer to this latter phenomenon as 'the "Dexter" effect,' " Dietz said, referring to the Showtime cable-television series about a police crime analyst and serial killer who kills other killers.

Of the serial killers who have dismembered or mutilated bodies, only a handful started as teens. The short list includes Jeffrey Dahmer. He was 18 when he killed the first of his 17 victims -- he buried the first in his family's backyard. But dismemberment, necrophilia and cannibalism would come later with other victims.

"It is unusual for juvenile murderers to have that kind of (dismemberment) profile," said James Alan Fox, a Northeastern University criminologist and author of the book "Extreme Killing."

And there is no increase or trend in such cases, he said.

"Juvenile violence is typically episodic, spontaneous. They act impulsively without appreciating the impacts of their crime on their victims, families or themselves -- more often with guns than with hands," Fox said.

Dismemberment shows an "incredible need for power, control and dominance," Fox said. "Such extremely violent behavior suggests it's likely to be repeated."

If convicted, Sigg, who turns 18 in January, would become the exceptionally rare teen killer who mutilated or dismembered his first victim, a little girl who lived in his Westminster neighborhood.

"Nobody just wakes up and does this one day," McCrary said.

There must have been earlier evidence, said Roger Depue, a retired chief of behavioral science for the FBI who teaches about violent crime behavior at the University of Virginia and through his company, the Academy Group Inc.

"It usually first involves cruelty to animals," said Depue. "This murder (of Ridgeway) was so violent, so bizarre. The literature shows disturbing patterns of violent fantasies begin at an early age."
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« Reply #1157 on: October 29, 2012, 11:11:42 AM »

Hi Janet...It is not unusual for people getting ready to file bankruptcy to charge up a luxury vacation on their credit cards that they are filing against..

No conscience.

 

Cookie ... IF that is what happened ... how many businesses got victimized ... businesses that in good faith provided services on credit to make that luxury vacation happen for Mindy Sigg and her sons in May ... the month she filed for Chapter 7 bankruptcy?

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« Reply #1158 on: October 29, 2012, 11:34:03 AM »

Janet...it happens all the time...sad but true
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« Reply #1159 on: October 29, 2012, 11:58:54 AM »

“Jessica’s Angels” will Patroll Jeffco streets despite administrators’ concerns
Posted on: 8:21 am, October 29, 2012

JEFFERSON COUNTY, Colo. — Parents in Jefferson County may feel a little more comfortable with their kids walking to school Monday morning.

Not only is there a suspect behind bars in the murder case of Jessica Ridgeway, a group honoring the slain child will begin patrolling the streets this week.

The group is called “Jessica’s Angels,” and it’s comprised of student and parent volunteers who want to make sure the streets of Jefferson County are safe for children who walk to school.

The group was founded by Pomona High School junior Alex Groen, who has paid close attention to every twist and turn in the search for Ridgeway. The Westminster 10-year-old was kidnapped on her way to Witt Elementary School.

“She was just a 10 years old,” Groen said. “That shouldn’t happen to kids. That’s just one of those things: That shouldn’t happen to anybody, especially not a little kid.”

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