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« Reply #700 on: October 19, 2012, 12:06:26 AM »

Those houses are so close to the lake, either the guy had a vehicle very close by or he lives in one of those homes, imo.
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« Reply #701 on: October 19, 2012, 09:28:48 AM »

Those houses are so close to the lake, either the guy had a vehicle very close by or he lives in one of those homes, imo.
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« Reply #702 on: October 19, 2012, 09:53:37 AM »

Thank you Blink!

I cannot comprehend why LE or Jessica's parents would not release this info ... info that would exonerate them in public arena.

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Jessica Ridgeway Murder: Investigation Focuses On Suspects Of Prior Kidnap Attempts, Points To Local Suspect
Thursday 18 October 2012 2:11 pm


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While it has not been disclosed publicly, sources inside the investigation speaking to BOC on the condition of anonymity have confirmed that both Sara Ridgeway and Jeremiah Bryant were administered and passed polygraph examinations.

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http://blinkoncrime.com/2012/10/18/jessica-ridgeway-murder-investigation-focuses-on-suspects-of-prior-kidnap-attempts-points-to-local-suspect/



Janet, I don't really think at this point LE is necessarily concerned with exonerating Jessica's parents in the public arena.  That's not their job.  Their job right now is to FIND and bring into custody if possible a very dangerous child snatching murderer.  And I don't think Jessica's parents are all that concerned right now about their public image. If my child had been kidnapped and found dismembered, the last thing I would worry about are people in an internet forum or in newspapers talking badly about me.  Polygraphs are merely tools, and there are reasons they aren't admissible in a court of law.  Obviously, Jessica's parents are cooperating with LE they are all trying to find out what happened to Jessica.  It doesn't appear Jessica's parents are person's of interest, so what is the use of releasing whether they did or didn't agree to a polygraph?


Muffybee is exactly right.  In this instance, where LE clears the family publicly, they did so really because they are positive that they need to seek public help, and more importantly WARN THEM.  I was pretty general in my piece out of respect for the family, but I have a very strong fear that this man is a seriously organized offender and he is a violent serial ritual sexual sadist.

In my un-quotable conversations about this case with members from The Academy Group, that is the literature and study-based theory.

The fact that WPD is now looking at the May incident (s) along Kentner loop as I wrote in the piece, I also have a concern they have no leads to any ID, and this guy will not be in CODIS.  If I were LE, I would be pouring through traffic tickets, disorderly conduct, DUI summons or self- admitting psyche patients with or without self-inflicted injuries from last Memorial Day weekend and compare DL images to the suspect profile description.

His victim got away- he is going to act out in some fashion .  He is back to the drawing board in short order once he releases.

The 22 year old woman got away, did he discover that he needed to move to children so he could handle them better?

That is A typical as to "preference" unless he is as I suspect, a sadist.

If so, this is someone who also knows how to go to ground, so to speak, so LE should be reaching out to the psyche community on the basis of imminent danger to the public at large.
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« Reply #703 on: October 19, 2012, 03:48:55 PM »

https://www.facebook.com/westminsterpolice

Westminster PD
2 hours ago.

Westminster Police Department
For Immediate Release
 Direct: (303) 658-4427 Dispatch: (303) 658-4360
 Prepared by: Investigator Trevor Materasso
 Case Number: 2012-16605
 Subject: Police Ask for Media Assistance

Date – October 19, 2012
 
Yesterday, Westminster Police shared information that we are looking for the public’s help to determine if there is any connection between the abduction and murder of Jessica Ridgeway and the attempted abduction of the female jogger at Ketner Lake Open Space on May 28, 2012. We recognize there are similarities between the May 28, 2012 incident and a July 2010 incident. Due to the ongoing investigation and consideration there is an unidentified predator on the loose, it is a top priority for the police department to protect the identity of the females in both of those incidents.

Several media outlets and reporters have requested the police reports and submitted a request to speak to either victim. Westminster Police will not give any consideration to either of these and respectfully request the media do not attempt to identify them through other means. We ask that you recognize now is not the appropriate time to make this request. We believe most of you would not have the same approach to publicize these victims had they been a part of your family (daughter, sister, etc.). Any attempt to identify these victims puts them at risk.
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« Reply #704 on: October 19, 2012, 04:02:46 PM »

http://www.examiner.com/article/what-police-are-not-saying-about-jessica-ridgeway-and-chemical-soaked-rag

What police are not saying about Jessica Ridgeway and chemical-soaked rag
Jessica Ridgeway latest news
October 19, 2012
By: Radell Smith

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The autopsy of the 10 year old child would have produced evidence of drug/chemical content found in tissues or blood of the victim’s body, like the black liquid found in the stomach of a foreign television actor this week according to the Deccan Herald on Friday.
 
And that analysis would have driven them to search through any unsolved cases this year in the Colorado vicinity, especially near Jessica’s home, which involved the use of the drug/chemical in question: chloroform.
 
As police obtain new forensic evidence they compare that information to leads gathered from tips and investigative efforts in order to evaluate whether to change direction in the investigation.
 
They’ve changed direction in Jessica’s murder case, narrowing the net to a white male approximately 5-feet, 8-inches tall between 18 and 30 years old with a medium build and brown hair, according to the Denver Post.
 
The likelihood that Jessica Ridgeway’s killer used chloroform on her in order to abduct her without a causing a public struggle or attention gains traction with the new investigative direction being taken. And for a suspect to use chloroform on a child her size, despite his size and build gives additional profiling clues to the police about this particular offender.
 
Predators who target women like the 22 year old woman at Ketner Lake, who managed to escape his attempt to use chloroform on her as she jogged past him on May 28, have to begin their crime spree somewhere, at sometime. Profilers know that such a criminal makes some practice runs that don't go off without a hitch, like the Ketner Lake abduction attempt, which failed. They also know that studying the first attacks by a predator can help them nab him in later cases.
 
Jessica Ridgeway's killer didn't abduct her, leave her backpack out in the open and take the time to dismember her body without some practice run somewhere, at some time. Looking at botched abduction attempts in the nearby vicinity this year, which have characteristics similar to those found by the medical examiner during autopsy, is the best bet for finding the child's killer. And police are doing that.
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« Reply #705 on: October 19, 2012, 04:57:43 PM »

This case is very similar to the case in San Diego wherein David Alan Westerfield (A NEIGHBOR) kidnapped a child who had been to his house selling Girl Scout cookies and she lived across the street. Westerfield murdered the child and threw her body off a side road. He was caught. Another thing - Westerfield appeared as a businessman, but on his computer was hours of child porn.
there ARE sites that can be watched as to this porn (police have the ability to contact those & trace) and I think this killers psychological profile fits someone who would be connected to other pedophiles online who actually take children to torture and rape while they watch.


Follow Jessica's whereabouts previously to her murder.

I reason that the killer lives in that area/neighborhood.

CLUE: Oct 5 Jessica leaves home at 8:30 am.
CLUE: Oct 7 Jessica's back pack is found on sidewalk.
CLUE: Oct 10: Jessica's body found along side of the road.

Look for someone who lives alone and/or with one other person who is gone during the day.
Look at ALL including a 16 yr old who has access to a car.







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« Reply #706 on: October 19, 2012, 05:11:01 PM »

thanks Brandi
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=13607.msg1542767#msg1542767

i meant to post this link with it, his mature content is prob,some nudes in the wood
not all nudity is an art form,i was just reminded of the link,i do think his life should
be looked at closely,ya never know he may know thw perp

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« Reply #707 on: October 19, 2012, 05:19:42 PM »

http://www.examiner.com/article/what-police-are-not-saying-about-jessica-ridgeway-and-chemical-soaked-rag

What police are not saying about Jessica Ridgeway and chemical-soaked rag
Jessica Ridgeway latest news
October 19, 2012
By: Radell Smith

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The autopsy of the 10 year old child would have produced evidence of drug/chemical content found in tissues or blood of the victim’s body, like the black liquid found in the stomach of a foreign television actor this week according to the Deccan Herald on Friday.
 
And that analysis would have driven them to search through any unsolved cases this year in the Colorado vicinity, especially near Jessica’s home, which involved the use of the drug/chemical in question: chloroform.
 
As police obtain new forensic evidence they compare that information to leads gathered from tips and investigative efforts in order to evaluate whether to change direction in the investigation.
 
They’ve changed direction in Jessica’s murder case, narrowing the net to a white male approximately 5-feet, 8-inches tall between 18 and 30 years old with a medium build and brown hair, according to the Denver Post.
 
The likelihood that Jessica Ridgeway’s killer used chloroform on her in order to abduct her without a causing a public struggle or attention gains traction with the new investigative direction being taken. And for a suspect to use chloroform on a child her size, despite his size and build gives additional profiling clues to the police about this particular offender.
 
Predators who target women like the 22 year old woman at Ketner Lake, who managed to escape his attempt to use chloroform on her as she jogged past him on May 28, have to begin their crime spree somewhere, at sometime. Profilers know that such a criminal makes some practice runs that don't go off without a hitch, like the Ketner Lake abduction attempt, which failed. They also know that studying the first attacks by a predator can help them nab him in later cases.
 
Jessica Ridgeway's killer didn't abduct her, leave her backpack out in the open and take the time to dismember her body without some practice run somewhere, at some time. Looking at botched abduction attempts in the nearby vicinity this year, which have characteristics similar to those found by the medical examiner during autopsy, is the best bet for finding the child's killer. And police are doing that.
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No disrespect to it's posting, but that reporter has no idea what she is talking about.  That article is really irresponsible in a variety of ways. 
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« Reply #708 on: October 19, 2012, 05:30:46 PM »

Police say wooden cross may belong to Jessica Ridgeway's killer, need help identifying it

Posted: 10/19/2012
Last Updated: 6 minutes ago

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http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/jessica-ridgeway/police-say-wooden-cross-may-belong-to-jessica-ridgeways-killer-need-help-identifying-i
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« Reply #709 on: October 19, 2012, 05:32:34 PM »

http://twitter.com/9news

9NEWS Denver‏@9NEWS
Police recovered a wooden cross that is approximately 1 ½ inches tall by 1 inch wide. #JusticeforJessica pic.twitter.com/yIM57oAQ
 
9NEWS Denver‏@9NEWS
Wooden cross could be crucial clue in Jessica case http://on9news.tv/T3rGgh  #JusticeforJessica PHOTO: pic.twitter.com/2ovRxHpU

9NEWS Denver‏@9NEWS
Pls RT: Recognize this cross? If so contact police. It could help find Jessica's killer. #JusticeforJessica pic.twitter.com/RUltEZyI
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http://www.9news.com/news/story.aspx?storyid=295144
3:10 PM, Oct 19, 2012

WESTMINSTER - Investigators say a cross recovered during the Jessica Ridgeway investigation could become a key piece of evidence in locating her killer.

Police are releasing several pictures of a cross to see if these will help lead police the suspect.

A wooden cross, that is approximately 1 ½ inches tall by 1 inch wide, has a hole drilled through the upper part and could be worn on a necklace.

On one side of the cross are three vertical bars etched onto the shorter horizontal section and a zig-zag pattern is carved onto the opposite side.

The cross appears to be a solid piece of wood and the upper post portion is offset from the lower post below the short horizontal section.

Authorities are looking for someone who may carry or wear this type of cross, may have recently purchased one of these, or is known to have some association with one. They are searching for local businesses that may sell these specific crosses.
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« Reply #710 on: October 19, 2012, 05:38:28 PM »

Police say wooden cross may belong to Jessica Ridgeway's killer, need help identifying it

Posted: 10/19/2012
Last Updated: 6 minutes ago

By: Kim Nguyen





http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/jessica-ridgeway/police-say-wooden-cross-may-belong-to-jessica-ridgeways-killer-need-help-identifying-i




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http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/jessica-ridgeway/police-say-wooden-cross-may-belong-to-jessica-ridgeways-killer-need-help-identifying-it
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« Reply #711 on: October 19, 2012, 07:12:41 PM »


http://www.examiner.com/article/jessica-ridgeway-latest-news-cross-found-at-crime-scene-may-belong-to-killer
Jessica Ridgeway latest news: Cross found at crime scene may belong to killer
October 19, 2012

On October 19, 2012, the Westminster Police Department provided an update on the Jessica Ridgeway case through their official Facebook and Twitter accounts. In a press release, the Westminster Police stated a cross was located at the crime scene where Jessica Ridgeway’s dismembered body was found and they believe it may belong to her killer. Authorities described the cross as a potential piece of evidence that my become the missing link that ultimately identifies the 10-year-old girl’s murderer. You may see photos of the cross in the slideshow player above.
It is unclear whether the cross was worn as a necklace or part of a rosary. The cross has a hole drilled at the top and features three vertical bars on the cross section. The Westminster Police described the cross as following, “Police recovered a wooden cross that is approximately 1 ½ inches tall by 1 inch wide. The cross has a hole drilled through the upper part and appears that it can be or was worn on a necklace. On one side of the cross are three vertical bars etched onto the shorter horizontal section and a zigzag pattern is carved onto the opposite side. The cross appears to be a solid piece of wood and the upper post portion is offset from the lower post below the short horizontal section.”
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« Reply #712 on: October 19, 2012, 08:16:11 PM »







It looks hand craved because its not even.

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« Reply #713 on: October 19, 2012, 08:46:39 PM »

Good Evening Monkeys!

I was just reading on some holding crosses and found this site: The crosses aren't like this one but I thought how they are used interesting.

http://www.holdingcross.com/index.php?main_page=page&id=9&chapter=3

It will not let me snip and cut and paste, so you will just have to read it there.
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« Reply #714 on: October 19, 2012, 09:13:52 PM »

maybe this is the cross source or one like it
the crosses at link are bought and used as a activity at church, my neice and nephew
did theirs at a baptist church,around the age 7-9 i think my nephew still wears his,and
has had it for about 29 yrs

STANDARD CROSS  BLANKS (ACTIVITY PACKS)   5mm
STANDARD CROSS  FINISHED PACKS (5mm Thickness) = 0.19685 in
HOLDING CROSS  BLANKS (ACTIVITY PACKS)
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http://www.yarebiz.co.uk/wooden-crosses.htm
http://www.wooden-crosses.co.uk/index.htm
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« Reply #715 on: October 19, 2012, 09:59:31 PM »

The link I posted a little ways back said they were used in prison ministries and half-way houses also. The one LE posted seems to be very old and worn.


Just hope they find this monster soon.
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« Reply #716 on: October 19, 2012, 10:05:20 PM »

The link I posted a little ways back said they were used in prison ministries and half-way houses also. The one LE posted seems to be very old and worn.


Just hope they find this monster soon.


Yes, when I was reading up on "holding crosses" I read that they are used in prison ministries also.

Never heard of these wooden crosses before; seems they are somewhat popular.

I was wondering if the three slashes on the front of the cross the Westminster Police Department showed stood for the trinity.

Creepy that someone would leave it with Jessica. This monster has to be caught soon.
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« Reply #717 on: October 19, 2012, 10:12:03 PM »

The link I posted a little ways back said they were used in prison ministries and half-way houses also. The one LE posted seems to be very old and worn.


Just hope they find this monster soon.


Yes, when I was reading up on "holding crosses" I read that they are used in prison ministries also.

Never heard of these wooden crosses before; seems they are somewhat popular.

I was wondering if the three slashes on the front of the cross the Westminster Police Department showed stood for the trinity.

Creepy that someone would leave it with Jessica. This monster has to be caught soon.

I was just coming to comment on the three lines on the cross...I was hoping it wasn't about victims...or some deep sick meaning.  Trinity seems much better.  If this cross is the killers...then they had better get him now...he is a sick sick man.  He already is...but you know what I mean. 
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« Reply #718 on: October 19, 2012, 10:30:17 PM »

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In this instance, where LE clears the family publicly, they did so really because they are positive that they need to seek public help, and more importantly WARN THEM.  I was pretty general in my piece out of respect for the family, but I have a very strong fear that this man is a seriously organized offender and he is a violent serial ritual sexual sadist.



I googled serial ritual sexual sadist.  Not for the faint of heart but interesting. 

They are each different with different behaviors/behavior combinations and are driven by their fantasies and need for sexual gratification that only comes when they engage in these behaviors or fantasize about them.  In one study only 19 of 38 had been diagnosed with any type of psychopathology prior to his arrest.  Of the 38 offenders eight had no documented criminal record prior to their arrest for the murders.  The average age of the offenders at the time of their arrest was 35.  Many times their need for the ritual leads to their arrest.

This study was published in 2010.

http://www.jaapl.org/content/38/2/239.full
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« Reply #719 on: October 19, 2012, 10:33:54 PM »







It looks hand craved because its not even.



It is my opinion that if this is the actual cross it is old. And appears to be lacquer opposed to polyurethane. There seems to be an old weathering that can only occur in lacquer which occurs with age as wood shrivels.

Additionally, it appears to be a cross that was well kept by someone. It holds a great sentimental value and has been in someone's possession for decades if not thirty years or more. Possible 50 years.

Again, if this is the actual cross - the person who has committed the crimes against Jessica is 50 to 60 years olds - unless he has taken the cross from someone who is surely missing it.

To part with such a treasure means that someone recognizes a life was taken. This is someone cognitive of the horrendous deed as wishes a parting gift, soastospeak.

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