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« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2012, 10:44:46 PM »

http://patdollard.com/2012/10/must-read-state-department-officials-harrowing-first-hand-account-of-the-attack-on-the-benghazi-compound/

Conference call Reporters/State Dept., Oct. 9, 2012
(One day before the hearing)

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« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2012, 11:27:48 PM »

http://patdollard.com/2012/10/breaking-obama-caught-arming-al-qaeda/


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It gets worse. Last week, Center for Security Policy senior fellow and former career CIA officer Clare Lopez observed that there were two large warehouse-type buildings associated with the so-called “consulate” whose purpose has yet to be disclosed. As their contents were raided in the course of the attack, we may never know for sure whether they housed — and were known by the local jihadis to house — arms, perhaps administered by the two former Navy SEALs killed along with Stevens.
 
What we do know is that the New York Times — one of the most slavishly pro-Obama publications in the country — reported in an Oct. 14 article, “Most of the arms shipped at the behest of Saudi Arabia and Qatar to supply Syrian rebel groups fighting the government of Bashar Assad are going to hard-line Islamic jihadists, and not the more secular opposition groups that the West wants to bolster.”
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« Reply #22 on: October 26, 2012, 12:58:21 PM »

Breaking News:

Fox News Confirms CIA in Benghazi during Consulate Attack was DENIED help.

Reports are there were 3 separate requests... all denied!
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« Reply #23 on: October 26, 2012, 01:44:26 PM »

http://callofthepatriot.blogspot.com/2012/10/obama-arming-al-qaeda-reason-for-libya.html?m=1


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But that does not explain why the Administration would see the Benghazi massacre as a risk.   No, for that you need to dig deeper.   Those friggin U.S. missiles were not only in Libya, being shipped to Syria, but they were also shipped to, wait for it….. AFGHANISTAN.

Yes, our guys are being shot down by our own shoulder fired missiles we dumped into Libya, became the base of ammunition for the al-Qaeda rebels, and ultimately after Gaddafi overthrow vast stores were shipped back in those al-Qaeda pick up trucks to Afghanistan.

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Remember the Navy SEALs, the ones that killed Bin Laden, that died along with 22 other Americans in August 2011 after their Helicopters Were Shot Down.   Remember ?

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The Defense Department itself recognizes openly the new appearance of Surface to air Missiles in Afghanistan.  From a June 1st report:


There is important information between the quoted paragraphs.  Also, read the June 2st report.
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« Reply #24 on: October 26, 2012, 10:13:04 PM »

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/26/cia-operators-were-denied-request-for-help-during-benghazi-attack-sources-say/

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Fox News has learned that there were two military surveillance drones redirected to Benghazi shortly after the attack on the consulate began. They were already in the vicinity. The second surveillance craft was sent to relieve the first drone, perhaps due to fuel issues. Both were capable of sending real time visuals back to U.S. officials in Washington, D.C. Any U.S. official or agency with the proper clearance, including the White House Situation Room, State Department, CIA, Pentagon and others, could call up that video in real time on their computers.


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« Reply #25 on: October 27, 2012, 03:14:41 PM »

http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/p/37144547/Interesting-Rumor-Concerning-General-Carter-Ham-and-Stand-Down-Order.aspx

This was a post by "Ambassador."  We know what Leon Panetta said, it was on the news and quoted frequently.



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Interesting Rumor Concerning General Carter Ham and Stand Down Order   (Posted on 10/26/12 at 9:45 p.m.)


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I heard a story today from someone inside the military that I trust entirely. The story was in reference to General Ham that Panetta referenced in the quote below.


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"(The) basic principle is that you don't deploy forces into harm's way without knowing what's going on; without having some real-time information about what's taking place," Panetta told Pentagon reporters. "And as a result of not having that kind of information, the commander who was on the ground in that area, Gen. Ham, Gen. Dempsey and I felt very strongly that we could not put forces at risk in that situation."
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The information I heard today was that General Ham as head of Africom received the same e-mails the White House received requesting help/support as the attack was taking place. General Ham immediately had a rapid response unit ready and communicated to the Pentagon that he had a unit ready.

General Ham then received the order to stand down. His response was to screw it, he was going to help anyhow. Within 30 seconds to a minute after making the move to respond, his second in command apprehended General Ham and told him that he was now relieved of his command.

The story continues that now General Rodiguez would take General Ham's place as the head of Africon.

I found this story when I got home after hearing this story.


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President Barack Obama will nominate Army Gen. David Rodriguez to succeed Gen. Carter Ham as commander of U.S. Africa Command and Marine Lt. Gen. John Paxton to succeed Gen. Joseph Dunford as assistant commandant of the Marine Corps, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta announced Thursday.
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General Rodigues Nominated as Head of Africon

As I was typing this I heard John Bolton on Greta say that there are conflicting reports of General Ham's comments on this tragedy and why a rapid response unit was not deployed. Bolton says someone needs to find out what Ham was saying on 9/11/12.

Interesting to say the least.


We know it is accurate that Gen. Ham was replaced.  I suspect that the middle of this post is the explanation for Ham's replacement.

We know that Leon Panetta's excuse of "without having some real-time information" is fog:  There was at least one drone, said to be a second drone, communications at the annex, video and audio from the mission compound.  No one has mentioned satelite:  Surely there was a satelite trained on the Middle East.  You wouldn't have to reposition for Libya.  Eygpt would have been a focus earlier in the day as that embassy was overrun.  Have no advancements been made since they told us decades ago that a satelite could focus on a license plate, or a postage stamp?

Where is the "50-min" video discussed during the Oct. 10 Hearing?  Let's see all the videos; let's see what you saw.

In addition, if you watched the Oct. 10 Hearing you saw and heard Col. Wood testify that Gen. Ham was prepared to leave SST (security team) in Libya.  IIRC, he stated it would be at no cost to State.
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« Reply #26 on: October 27, 2012, 05:06:29 PM »

http://www.stripes.com/news/navy/navy-replaces-admiral-leading-mideast-strike-group-1.194780

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Navy replaces admiral leading Mideast strike group

By ROBERT BURNS
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Published: October 27, 2012

WASHINGTON -- The Navy said Saturday it is replacing the admiral in command of an aircraft carrier strike group in the Middle East, pending the outcome of an internal investigation into undisclosed allegations of inappropriate judgment.

Rear Adm. Charles M. Gaouette is being sent back to the USS John C. Stennis' home port at Bremerton, Wash., in what the Navy called a temporary reassignment. The Navy said he is not formally relieved of his command of the Stennis strike group but will be replaced by Rear Adm. Troy M. Shoemaker, who will assume command until the investigation is completed.

It is highly unusual for the Navy to replace a carrier strike group commander during its deployment.

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« Reply #27 on: October 29, 2012, 12:33:11 PM »

http://bostonherald.com/news/opinion/op_ed/view/20221029benghazi_scandal_demands_answers_prez_shows_utter_lack_of_integrity_leadership

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That the Obama administration views the murders in Benghazi through the prism of crime rather than the prism of war should come as no surprise. After all, this is the same administration that coined the euphemism “man-made disasters” to refer to acts of terrorism; it is the same administration that characterized the Fort Hood massacre not as an example of ideologically motivated Islamic jihad but as just another incidence of “workplace violence.” Those events provided important clues as to this president’s guiding philosophy. But Benghazi demonstrates the dangerous geo-political consequences of such a world-view.
 
Benghazi raises serious questions about the president’s competence, integrity, and honesty. And it reveals more clearly than ever before Obama’s reflexive impulse to blame, rather than defend, America.
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« Reply #28 on: October 29, 2012, 01:40:54 PM »

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/29/early-briefing-on-libya-strike-focused-on-al-qaeda-before-story-changed/#ixzz2Aht2CkDR

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The description of the attack by those in the Sept. 13 briefings stands in stark contrast to the now controversial briefing on Capitol Hill by CIA Director David Petraeus the following day -- and raises even more questions about why Petraeus described the attack as tied to a demonstration.
 
The Sept. 13 assessment was based on intercepts that included individuals, believed to have participated in the attack, who were celebratory -- as well as a claim of responsibility.
 
FBI and NCTC also briefed that there were a series of Al Qaeda training camps just outside of Benghazi, where the attack occurred and resulted in the deaths of four Americans. The area was described as a hotbed for the militant Ansar al-Sharia as well as Al Qaeda in North Africa.


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On Capitol Hill, Petraeus characterized the attack as more consistent with a flash mob, where the militants showed up spontaneously with RPGs. Petraeus downplayed to lawmakers the skill needed to fire mortars, which also were used in the attack and to some were seen as evidence of significant pre-planning. As Fox News previously reported, four mortars were fired -- two missed the annex, but the mortar team re-calibrated and the next two mortars were direct hits.
 
Fox News is told that Petraeus seemed wedded to the narrative that the attack was linked to a demonstration and was spontaneous as opposed to pre-meditated.
 
Fox News is told that Petraeus was "absolute" in his description with few, if any, caveats. As lawmakers learned more about the attack, including through raw intelligence reports, they were "angry, disappointed and frustrated" that the CIA director had not provided a more complete picture of the available intelligence.



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« Reply #29 on: November 01, 2012, 02:55:10 PM »

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/11/01/troubling_surveillance_before_benghazi_attack?page=full


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‘Troubling' Surveillance Before Benghazi Attack

Sensitive documents found amid the wreckage of the U.S. consulate shine new light on the Sept. 11 assault that killed Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans.
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« Reply #30 on: November 01, 2012, 06:41:49 PM »

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57544026/sources-key-task-force-not-convened-during-benghazi-consulate-attack/


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Sources: Key task force not convened during Benghazi consulate attack

CBS News has learned that during the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. Mission in Benghazi, the Obama Administration did not convene its top interagency counterterrorism resource: the Counterterrorism Security Group, (CSG).


"The CSG is the one group that's supposed to know what resources every agency has. They know of multiple options and have the ability to coordinate counterterrorism assets across all the agencies," a high-ranking government official told CBS News. "They were not allowed to do their job. They were not called upon."
 

Information shared with CBS News from top counterterrorism sources in the government and military reveal keen frustration over the U.S. response on Sept. 11, the night ambassador Chris Stevens and 3 other Americans were killed in a coordinated attack on the U.S. consulate in Libya.
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« Reply #31 on: November 02, 2012, 01:24:25 AM »

http://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/2012-11-01-DEI-to-Clinton-re-Benghazi.pdf

Letter: House Oversight Committee to Sec. Hillary Clinton

Re:  Foreign Policy Article 11/1/2012

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These documents paint a disturbing picture indicating that elements of the Libyan government might have been complicit in the September 11, 2012, attack on the compound and the murder of four Americans.  It also reiterates the fact that the U.S. government may have had evidence indicating that the attack was not a spontaneous event but rather a preplanned terrorist attack that included prior surveillance of the compound as a target.

Given the location where they were found, these documents appear to be genuine and support a growing body of evidence indicating that the Obama Administration has tried to withhold pertinent facts about the 9/11 anniversary attack from Congress and the American people.
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« Reply #32 on: November 02, 2012, 01:26:59 PM »

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Sources: Key task force not convened during Benghazi consulate attack
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The Administration also didn't call on the only interagency, on-call, short notice team poised to respond to terrorist incidents worldwide: the Foreign Emergency Support Team (FEST). FEST's seasoned experts leave within four hours of notification and can provide "the fastest assistance possible."
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« Reply #33 on: November 02, 2012, 05:20:44 PM »

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2012/11/02/benghazi_bombshells

New Bombshells Rock Benghazi Scandal
Guy Benson
Political Editor, Townhall.com

Summation and Commentary on what is known, so far.
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« Reply #34 on: November 02, 2012, 10:37:23 PM »

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204712904578090612465153472.html?mod=rss_opinion_main


(WSJ) Another summary:

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What we now know—and still don't—about President Obama's 9/11.
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« Reply #35 on: November 03, 2012, 12:21:51 PM »

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/03/exclusive-security-officials-on-ground-in-libya-challenge-cia-account/


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Both American and British sources say multiple roadblocks set up by fighters believed to be with Ansar al-Sharia were in place in Benghazi several hours before the 9:40 p.m. timeline and that communications also alluded to "heavily armed troops showing up with artillery." Fox News was told by both American and British contacts who were in Benghazi that night that the CIA timeline rolled out this past week is only "loosely based on the truth" and "doesn't quite add up."
 
Fox News was also told that the local guard force meant to protect the consulate perimeter "panicked" and didn't know what to do as the attackers took up positions. Sources say other guards simply "walked away".   


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British intelligence sources said that unarmed drones routinely flew over Benghazi every night in flight patterns and that armed drones which fly over chemical sites, some a short flight from Benghazi, "were always said to be on call." American sources confirmed this and questioned "why was a drone armed only with a camera dispatched?"

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British sources on the ground in Benghazi said they are extremely frustrated by the attack and are still wondering why they weren't called for help. “We have more people on the ground here than the Americans and I just don't know why we didn't get the call?" one said.
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« Reply #36 on: November 03, 2012, 01:40:57 PM »

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/50773?utm_source=CFP+Mailout&utm_campaign=8bde3fa190-Call_to_Champions&utm_medium=email

Roll back the scenario to 9/11/2001, under Bush:

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Overnight, the president concocts a story to tell the American people. He calls a press conference and informs the world, “Yesterday, an attack was perpetrated upon our soil that appears to have been completely random and spontaneous. In looking at the reasons for this violence, it has come to my attention that the Islamic world is rightfully outraged by an episode of the animated television series ‘South Park.’ This episode, which aired earlier this summer, depicts the Prophet Mohammad in an unflattering light and is inexcusable. My administration wants Muslims around the world to know that the United States government had nothing to do with producing, promoting or airing this cartoon show, and that we apologize for the offensive nature of it.”

The following Sunday, George Bush sends United Nations Ambassador John Negroponte to every network talk show to repeat the lie that it was the Comedy Central cartoon show that caused the attacks of 9/11.

And finally, at the funerals of the victims of the 9/11 attacks, Secretary of State Colin Powell tells Todd Beamer’s wife, Lisa, that the Bush administration is going to hunt down Trey Parker and Matt Stone, the co-creators of “South Park,” and arrest them.

Do you believe for one moment that the media, the American people, or anyone in their right mind would have bought into that whopper? Well, Barack Obama thinks you are just that stupid.

Now go out and vote, America!
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« Reply #37 on: November 04, 2012, 01:59:28 PM »

http://m.weeklystandard.com/articles/mysteries-benghazi_660184.html


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Mysteries of Benghazi
Nov 12, 2012, Vol. 18, No. 09
BY STEPHEN F. HAYES

Regardless of which candidate wins, the American people deserve answers to the many unanswered questions about the attack—and the events that preceded and followed it. The Benghazi debacle is a drama in three parts: the lack of security before the attacks, the flaccid response during the attacks, and the misleading narrative after the attacks. There are unanswered questions about each part. Here are some of the most important.
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« Reply #38 on: November 05, 2012, 01:33:43 PM »

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/11/05/Proof-Obama-Refused-to-Call-Benghazi-Terror-CBS-Covered-Up


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« Reply #39 on: May 15, 2013, 12:13:15 PM »

Benghazi is back.

I.R.S. scandal is known.

AP spied on; phone info collected.

EPA favored Obama buddies with waivers, not others.

Brian Terry (Border Agent) is still dead from Fast and Furious gun-running.

America is in terrible trouble.
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