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« on: November 10, 2012, 04:15:47 PM »

"Peacefully grant the State of Louisiana to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own NEW government."


read more here - https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-louisiana-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/1wrvtngl

I wonder how many more might be popping up?

I know that in the past states have split up, like Dakota into North and South Dakota, Virginia/West Virginia, and Maine was split off too.  Perhaps this is the beginning of the 'reset' button for America?  A new beginning?  Promise of a better future for a nation divided?


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« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2012, 04:33:16 PM »

"Texas Nationalist Movement Would Like to Secede Now, Please"

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"Texas remains one of the reddest states in the country and is the last bastion of conservatism. Now more than ever Texas must lead the nation! I'll continue to fight every day against an overreaching federal government to protect the liberties that Texans hold so dearly."

In response, more than 100 of Abbott's Facebook fans all have roughly the same suggestion. In the words of one guy: "Secede. I'm done with the Republic as a whole. They're going to he'll [sic], we don't need to go with them."

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Probably not. But Miller is certainly trying to seize the moment, releasing a statement on the group's website. It reads, in part, "This presidential election serves as a clear signal from the rest of the Union to Texas -- we do not care for your right of local self-government and we do not share your values."

read more here - http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfairpark/2012/11/texas_nationalist_movement_wou.php

When the nation collapses, who will investigate?  Will the books at the Fed finally see the light of day?  Make public the emails?  Secret wheeling and dealing?
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« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2012, 08:56:21 AM »

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"The US continues to suffer economic difficulties stemming from the federal government's neglect to reform domestic and foreign spending. The citizens of the US suffer from blatant abuses of their rights such as the NDAA, the TSA, etc. Given that the state of Texas maintains a balanced budget and is the 15th largest economy in the world, it is practically feasible for Texas to withdraw from the union, and to do so would protect it's citizens' standard of living and re-secure their rights and liberties in accordance with the original ideas and beliefs of our founding fathers which are no longer being reflected by the federal government."

read more here - http://www.policymic.com/articles/18946/obama-secession-citizens-from-18-states-ask-president-to-secede-from-the-union

I didn't know there were so many petitions.
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« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2012, 09:02:09 AM »

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As of the evening of Sunday, November 11, here are the current links and numbers of petition signers for each of the 20 states (each petition needs 25,000 signatures within 30-days to be considered by the government):

Alabama - 3,975 signatures
Arkansas - 350 signatures
Colorado - 3,055 signatures
Florida - 4,033 signatures
Georgia - 1,629 signatures
Indiana - 3,194 signatures
Kentucky - 3,229 signatures
Louisiana - 12,192 signatures
Michigan - 2,482 signatures
Mississippi - 3,171 signatures
Missouri - 2,196 signatures
Montana - 2,867 signatures
New Jersey - 2,485 signatures
New York - 2,847 signatures
North Carolina - 3,823 signatures
North Dakota - 2,508 signatures
Oregon - 2,678 signatures
South Carolina - 2,632 signatures
Tennessee - 2,659 signatures
Texas - 14,883 signatures

read more here - http://www.examiner.com/article/citizens-from-20-states-have-filed-to-secede-from-the-united-states

Where are the State Dept. 'RESET' buttons? 
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« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2012, 09:24:04 AM »

From a comments section.

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drdaws 1:08 PM on November 10, 2012
I'd vote to secede. Despite what some less educated people on here wrote, Texas receives far less than it's rightful share from the federal government when corporate and personal income taxes are accounted for per capita. In fact, every Texan would stand to benefit tremendously from an economic standpoint. Texas has a number of large Fortune 100 companies who would love the chance to reincorporate in Texas, the tax income from ~15 Fortune 100 companies alone would account for all revenue received from the US government. This would virtually ensure every Texan would be swimming in money. Then there's personal income tax, again, Texans pay a disproportionate share per capita compared to what they receive.

Plus, we'd be able to walk away from the liabilities of the US (soon to be $20 Trillion - yes that's right, the equivalent of a free check to every Texan of $60,000!)

More than 60% of Texans vote republican and would likely welcome this, so if you wouldn't, then feel free to move out and get a job in another part of the country, nobody's forcing you to stay. By the way, I'm not a Texan originally, I lived in MA, CA, and CO, but I find it to be a very attractive option for every Texan. Anyone who disagrees is either ignorant of the facts or too stupid to see the potential benefit to every Texan.

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Sport 9:18 AM on November 10, 2012
Naturally Texas won't recede. E pluribus unum and we're stronger as a nation with Texas as part of it. It's not only Texans that feel alienated- rural America and the old South are just as disconnected from what America has become. Times change, ways change, but those who adapt survive. The urban obsession with the nanny state has become the standard. The rest of us just need to do what we've done all along and take care of ourselves and accept that we'll keep less from our own hard work so the slothful can have more despite doing little.

One thing is patently clear: socialism fails everywhere it's tried. It's only a matter of time before that way of thinking rots from the inside and collapses. America isn't an empire of nations held together by tyranny like the old Soviet Union, it's a country with the greatest foundation of any in history. It will survive the hubris of the current oligarchy.

Unfortunately, the nanny state keeps stealing money and making the chains of slavery heavier.

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Texas provides the third most Tax revenue of any state. And we get less than a dollar back for every dollar sent to Washington. That well publicized data is 5 years old, I'm sure this has gotten worse under Obama. We certainly didn't get our share of shovel ready projects. Solyndra wasn't a TX company. We have the strongest economy in the US. I love the USA as much as the next guy, but what I love is becoming a figment of my imagination and a distant memory. What does Washington do for us that we couldn't do better and more efficiently for ourselves?

read more here - http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2012/11/analysis-will-texas-secede-from-barack-obamas-america/#comments
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« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2012, 10:10:31 AM »

For decades there were lawsuits, million dollar settlements to community organizations, the CRA, and in the end, the financial collapse of 2008.

When does it end?  When does it go back to equal opportunity?  Everyone have a fair shot?  It seems like some get more opportunity and millions more than others and haven't made progress.  Is it the fault of business?  Individual failure?

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If your organization has a policy or practice that doesn't benefit minorities equally, watch out: The Obama administration could sue you for racial discrimination under a dubious legal theory that many argue is unconstitutional.

Holder's Coca-Cola statistical discrimination in the news a few years ago.

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Under this broad interpretation of civil-rights law, virtually any organization can be held liable for race bias if it maintains a policy that negatively impacts one racial group more than another — even if it has no racist motive and applies the policy evenly across all groups.

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-perspective/110812-632759-obama-to-wield-bigger-disparate-impact-club.htm?src=Sthru&p=2

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...CFPB examiners will subject these companies and others to an "effects test" to make sure credit transactions are racially balanced.

Those who reject minority applicants for credit cards or charge them higher loan rates had better be prepared to prove to Cordray's diversity cops they aren't racist. Many have already decided it's safer to give black and Latino applicants preferential treatment, which of course is racism of another kind.

This seems to be is what hope and change looks like under Obama...where is the 'fair shot' for everyone?  Race based discrimination institutionalized?

"The goal is to equalize outcomes based on race without regard for performance or merit."

Race seems to be more important than hard work and character in Obamaland.

Read More At IBD: http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-perspective/110812-632759-obama-to-wield-bigger-disparate-impact-club.htm#ixzz2C1LiIzxq

How many Americans recognize racism?  'They don't know they're racist' - MO

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« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2012, 10:34:53 AM »

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It’s Friday morning, and so far today, the Obama administration has posted 165 new regulations and notifications on its reguations.gov website.

In the past 90 days, it has posted 6,125 regulations and notices – an average of 68 a day.

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The website also links to a video of a speech President Barack Obama gave at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce in Washington, D.C. on Feb. 7, 2011, in which the president promised to remove “outdated and unnecessary regulations.”

“I've ordered a government-wide review, and if there are rules on the books that are needlessly stifling job creation and economic growth, we will fix them,” the president said.

read more here - http://cnsnews.com/news/article/6125-proposed-regulations-and-notifications-posted-last-90-days-average-68-day

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« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2012, 05:06:12 PM »

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One week after a deeply divided US re-elected Barack Obama as its 44th president, citizens unhappy with that outcome are using the White House's own We the People website to create petitions promoting the secession of 35 of the country's 50 states

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The language of many of the petitions are identical or nearly so, suggesting either a coordinated effort or, at minimum, a series of cut-and-paste follow-ons by different individuals in different states. A common theme is a quote from the second paragraph of the 1776 Declaration of Independence:

    ... Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and institute new Government ...

more here - http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/13/we_the_peole_secessionist_petitions/


"Alabama secessionist says working people must unite to save America"

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Derrick Belcher, 45, of Chunchula, said in an interview late Monday that secession may be the only way to save working Americans from crushing debt, burdensome federal regulations and rising taxes.

“I don’t want to live in Russia. I don’t believe in socialism,” said Belcher, an operations manager for a Mobile trucking company. “America is supposed to be free.”

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“They throw all this on the working man’s back –- they make us pay for welfare and all these other programs,” he said.

 ::snipping2::

“It’s economics -– just that simple,” he said. “I’m working poor. And I work -– I’ve never taken a dime from the government. I’ll starve before I take a handout. That’s what being a true American is all about.”

read more here - http://blog.al.com/live/2012/11/alabama_secessionist_says_work.html

For some reason, the politicians keep getting richer.  Working people have to compete with foreign labor, foreign business, illegal aliens/foreigners...

Who stand for the working person in America?
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« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2012, 07:12:35 PM »

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Online petitions submitted since the Nov. 6 election from 38 states, including Kentucky, Ohio and Indiana, ask for federal permission to secede from the United States.

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As of Tuesday afternoon, two states have reached that threshold, Texas with 82,000 and Louisiana with 30,000.

more - http://cincinnati.com/blogs/nkypolitics/2012/11/13/online-petitions-demand-permission-to-secede-from-union/


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more - http://www.examiner.com/article/despite-resurgence-secession-movement-shoud-not-be-taken-seriously

What would be left?  Which nation would get stuck with all the rules and regulations?  The Supreme Court?  Paying for the White House?  Congressional pensions?
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« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2012, 07:18:45 AM »

"Force all states to pay their portion of the national debt before they can secede from the union"

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Residents of all states who wish to secede from the union should be required to take their own advice about 'personal responsibility', and pay their share of the national debt before being released to fend for themselves.

This debt must be paid in full, or they cannot leave.

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Abridged list includes no more upkeep for highways, nor for interstates or bridges, no federally funded law enforcement or fire department, no public libraries, no phone lines, no cable television, no cell phone towers, no power grids, no water lines, no mail services, no paramedics, no hospitals which accept Medicare/Medicaid funding, no ATF, FBI, DOJ, SWAT, or Department of Homeland Security, no Border Guard, National Guard, Coast Guard, Corps of Engineers, or WITSEC.

source - https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/force-all-states-pay-their-portion-national-debt-they-can-secede-union/St0y9qBM

No more debt? 

OPEN the books of the Federal Reserve. Maybe apportion the debt, based on population?  Those with the biggest populations get to pay back the biggest debt?  Those getting the most funds are responsible?

How many states get less back than they contribute? Year after year after year?

Do states get any Homeland Security?  Effective border control?  Enforcement of the existing immigration laws?  Illegal aliens/invaders deported in a timely manner?

The biggest supporters of Obama seems to get the biggest welfare check, seem to exist in a welfare economy that makes everyone poorer. 

The welfare economy seems to make the richest even richer.  Obamaphones - make the richest man on earth, even richer, and he's a foreigner.

The Chinese standard of living has increased dramatically since Obama has been in office.

Maybe the new country could just issue one big currency?  A big inflated currency just like Obama?  Multiple currencies?  Competing currencies?

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« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2012, 06:07:46 PM »

“Secession is an American principle”

my paraphrase -

Secession IS NOT TREASON.  It is an American principle.

We came together voluntarily, we can dissolve it voluntarily.

Dollar will collapse...no matter how many bailouts, money doesn't work. 

Secession might have to be done when dollar collapses and it will.

watch video here - http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2012/11/rick-perry-might-not-want-texas-to-secede-but-ron-paul-believes-secession-is-an-american-principle/


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I think we live in a time where our government/president is chosen by massive voting blocks in states that do not have voter ID laws and questionable voting practices.

These massive welfare states have high numbers of illegal aliens, welfare participation, and don't require voter ID at the polls.  Some, based on recent news reports, have participation rates well over 100% and some approaching 200%.

How is it possible that international election observers find it amazing that the US doesn't require government ID to vote?

The nation requires ID for just about everything someone does in their daily life and some state do not require ID to vote?

Government by vote fraud?  Bullies?  Thieving hordes? 

Any chance any non leftist Democrat will ever get elected?  I don't think so.

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